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The early seventies were hard times for Vidor, but during the mid- and late-seventies and continuing into the mid-eighties, Vidor had strong teams. The problem was only one team went to the playoffs and Vidor was in a district with PN-G, Port Arthur Thomas Jefferson, Beaumont French, and Beaumont West Brook. All of those teams won a state championship or made the state finals during 1975-1985. SE TX had its fair share of champions back then. Vidor made a run in 1978 under HC Philip Brown. They won the DC and played a good Aldine team in the Astrodome that was probably twice their size in enrollment. People in Vidor must have forgotten the strong Pirate teams coached by Ronnie Thompson (1975 and 1977) and Philip Brown (1978-1983). Under Ronnie Thompson, the Pirates threw the ball all over the yard when most teams were running 3-yards and a cloud of dust. And, he had a bag of trick plays for every game. Add to that some strong defenses, and the Pirates won some games. Under Philip Brown, the Pirates loaded up on the line of scrimmage and hit people in the mouth. They had big OL kids and usually a big RB to pound people into submission. That's what they did in 1978. All of that to say, Coach Matthews would be third in my pecking order. He's had some good teams. He uses his personnel and finds a way to max out wins. He runs a clean program and high school coaches from Orange to El Paso love the guy. If he ever left Vidor, he could have another job within hours. Several HC would hire the guy just to have him on their staff. He is a known commodity and a well-liked man. Go Indians. Peace.

Nederland get back to your own thread. We are not that good, but we beat y’all!! Cry till next year. Larry is gone!!! Back to the game in hand. PNG has 3 ways of winning. 1. Is COVID. 2. Is IPad scandal for a forfeit from other team. Or 3. The world gets shut down. My prediction is 74-6 FB. This will not be much of a contest. Track meet one way, disaster the other. As I have posted all year. We played for the 4th spot and got it. One and done. Don’t be mad at me for the truth. I do not have our defensive stats, but I can only imagine what we give up per game... Sorry Rah Rahs....

Belichick, Saban, and Surratt are still weighing their options for 2021.

Coincidentally, I have some coaching friends that coach some "really good kids". The argument I've made (even on this site) for quite some time is that a team has to have a decent coaching STAFF that's capable of getting maximum potential effort from the players, a group of good players, and favorable competition in order to make any considerable noise in the W column. More times than not you have to have at least 2 of those 3. I'm not defending this guy.. I don't even know him. Just reiterating that there's much more involved than whoever the head coach is. Wanna make a change? Make a change.. but there is no quick fix. Often it's just the opposite.

Ahh that’s the crap BH ran during the Gage years. I hated that offense.

Yes, the one trick pony hung about 450 yards of offense in the league’s number one defense. I guess the rest of the district better hope that next year they don’t find another trick... 😂

I’ll take this one, you see my opinion on this is... nah, on second thought I ain’t touching that one with a 10 ft pole lol.

I anticipate that they WILL get a lot better. They will play their best basketball at the end of the year. And they will win their district based on competition. In the old district, it would have been a three way dogfight.

I'll be at the next game. I have a good idea of how this one played out though. Got ate alive all night long trying to trap and press and gave up a million easy baskets. BU could have probably scored 100 by halftime if they had wanted to. I know we're young and inexperienced and nothing we could have done would have resulted in a W, but man 🤮

Sounds like knife through butter...elite guards see back court pressure and their eyes light up like a fat kid eyeing a Big Mac. Run the clock for Pete’s sake.

I'll take that bet. Blind squirrels do find nuts. The Indians will fall ass backwards into at least two or three first downs. They may get one or two first downs due to penalties. The Purple Pride band will fire-up Cherokee for that. The defense does not make many stops, but FBM will fumble, throw an INT, or the ball will bounce our way at least once during the game. That's another Cherokee moment. The band kids may need to stretch in the 3rd and 4th Q. Well, if you have to stand and stretch, that's a Cherokee moment. Someone in the student section or a giddy band parent will yell out that PN-G beat Nederland this season. Well, that's another Cherokee moment. The band director will sit through the game thinking about his pay check and then, poof, he will suddenly remember that he gets paid to play Cherokee. So, there's another opportunity to fire up the song. Pho Rizzle, you should change your prediction. The score may be 70-24 in favor of the Buffs, but PN-G will fire-up Cherokee at least 20-25 times. It's in the DNA. Honor, Pride and Tradition...long live Cherokee. Go Indians. Peace.

How many PN-G games you been to? It will be played 3 times before the coin toss.

The Bulldogs will be too much for the Texans. Was no surprise China Spring was no contest for Carthage, they should have never been there , but in the year of Covid strange things have happened. A healthy WOS would have given Carthage a decent game, but Carthage is just to well put together for 4A.

Found this some pretty cool stats for Pirate fans on texashighschoolfootballhistory.com The past 20+ seasons under Coach Mathews shows that the last two years shows the Pirate defense gave up the least points the last two seasons with (144) in 2019 and (133) in 2020 given they only played 9 games respectively both years. These impressive numbers given that they are Vidor's, goes back to 1984 when that defense only gave up (118) points on a 6-4 ball club. But factor in different types of offense "may" have effected those low totals also. Anyways, the nephew told me today he was named Defensive MVP for district this season.🏴‍☠️

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When Yates dropped down a conference they were serving up the same dish. I was over here in Houston listening to Yates fanatics talking that noise: "JY is gonna when every game, they will win state every year." Tbh they have won more than they have lost. They have won the lion's share (no pun intended) of rings, but they haven't won all of them. BU's legacy won't be built on dominating the smaller schools in the golden triangle. It will be built on how they handle conference competition, year in and year out. Back when PA Lincoln was around their reputation was not built on how they dominated the greater Beaumont area. It was built on marching thru the playoffs and bringing home state trophies. Year in and year out, that is not easy to do.

Wow, much like the Nederland Fans annual celebration has gone since Doug Ethridge retired back in 1983. Total Mid County Madness Dominance during his reign as Head Coach.

I can transfer some lead from my .357 magnum to his chest. Lead has to be worth something. Then I can say,”Sue me now punk”. Hopefully he has life insurance so his family will be covered. That should become law just in case people don’t feel generous with their goods.

Weather permitting a lower scoring game will enhance the chances of a closer game. Watched Manvel last week they are worthy of the #5 5A ranking however hard work beats talent when talent dont show up to play.

I was thinking about that game when I made my last post. I also was trying to allude to there is no more Central, or Ozen. All the players and resources are concentrated in one program now. McCain, Adams, Bush, et al, not walking out of the dressing room for Silsbee anymore. They said the same thing when the greats of the past left too. It is time for the new guys to write some more chapters in the history books.

Beaumont always puts out basketball players. There were times when Central and Ozen were both in the top 4 or 5 in the polls. Now you got all that dna or most of it, going to BU.

I remember when Central blew the doors off Silsbee back in 2014/15 season. The next year a freshman lead team with McCain and Adam's beat Central and West Brook 3 years in a row. I dont think Miller is back and they have a player a very tough schedule and no tournaments. Get your licks in now, it won't be that way soon.

Carthage is a VERY vell oiled machine......they will be state champs!!

I heard they didnt miss...

Galena Park runs the flex bone- similar to the service academies. The OC ran it when he coached at C. E. King.

Breaking ... Joe Biden has increased his lead in Georgia by 357 suitcases.

I don’t appreciate all these thieving states diluting our Texas electoral votes with all this bullshit they did to steal the election. They should all be put on trial for Treason! Good to see Texas leading the way!

I like both and I like BC too. LCM will be in the playoff hunt too. But ultimately I think it’s Silsbee’s district. They might stumble a time or two though.

Going to look up both of these tomorrow.

Final 69-65 Newton

Good game to watch as far as it being close but yes

I was at that game. Kudos to Sahvir Wheeler. He showed a lot of heart and stamina in that game. Coach Wise had a long bench, with plenty of fouls to give.

An ugly game, gotcha..

End 1st 21-10 Newton

HALFTIME: Westbrook-21 Nederland-18

Dang 39 in the first......

Woodville 68 Anahuac 28 District Opener at The Eagle Summit for both. Lady Eagles were up 41-13 at half and were able to really get into their bench in the 2nd half.

I was just messing with you. I figured he was at least a part of the football program. What about the hometown boy coaching a little north of town? You think he can do it?

I have a hard time imagining that PNG could win 1 in a 1000 times against this team. This will be a bloodbath. The only thing that will keep FBM from scoring 70+ points is the restraint of their coaches. In PNGs defense, I think FBM would hang 60-70 on every team in our district. Good luck PNG!! I hope you guys pull off the miracle!!

Do you mean the ones with cell phones and Air Jordans?

Quarantine for the varsity players ends today and they can be back at school starting tomorrow. They will be back at it tomorrow, preparing for WO-S on Friday at Lumberton.

I think if you look at Larry’s total record as a head coach there are more losses than wins. I agree that he is a good offensive coach, but defenses were always horrible and probably one of the most arrogant people I have ever talked with

I love Texas. If anyone doesn’t..... LEAVE! I suggest I-10.

Never ever underestimate your opponent. I hope we win and hope both teams come away healthy.

Pretty generous of them. Maybe they meant in the 3rd Qtr. 😂

I was checking out Lindale’s RB Jordan Jenkins. He’s averaging about 214 yards a game (Total right at 3,000 yards this season). Vidor holding him to 126 yards on 27 carries was a heckuva performance by the Pirate Defense. I predict he’ll get 300 yards against LBJ, unless they stack the box and leave receivers open. If they do, Peterson (QB) will make them pay with his arm. But LBJ has a couple of good backs themselves, so yes folks, this will be a track meet. Not impressed with Lindale’s Defense overall, but they play the run better than the pass, and LBJ is predominately a running team. Imo, that gives Lindale a slight advantage. You can go to the bank there won’t be many punts in this game.

Im sick of your shxt. @WOSgrad lock this thread please.

May of just been old news. Last year's team only had one return with varsity experience.

Nah... kid looked Hispanic. They run hot.