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The early seventies were hard times for Vidor, but during the mid- and late-seventies and continuing into the mid-eighties, Vidor had strong teams. The problem was only one team went to the playoffs and Vidor was in a district with PN-G, Port Arthur Thomas Jefferson, Beaumont French, and Beaumont West Brook. All of those teams won a state championship or made the state finals during 1975-1985. SE TX had its fair share of champions back then. Vidor made a run in 1978 under HC Philip Brown. They won the DC and played a good Aldine team in the Astrodome that was probably twice their size in enrollment. People in Vidor must have forgotten the strong Pirate teams coached by Ronnie Thompson (1975 and 1977) and Philip Brown (1978-1983). Under Ronnie Thompson, the Pirates threw the ball all over the yard when most teams were running 3-yards and a cloud of dust. And, he had a bag of trick plays for every game. Add to that some strong defenses, and the Pirates won some games. Under Philip Brown, the Pirates loaded up on the line of scrimmage and hit people in the mouth. They had big OL kids and usually a big RB to pound people into submission. That's what they did in 1978. All of that to say, Coach Matthews would be third in my pecking order. He's had some good teams. He uses his personnel and finds a way to max out wins. He runs a clean program and high school coaches from Orange to El Paso love the guy. If he ever left Vidor, he could have another job within hours. Several HC would hire the guy just to have him on their staff. He is a known commodity and a well-liked man. Go Indians. Peace.

Nederland get back to your own thread. We are not that good, but we beat y’all!! Cry till next year. Larry is gone!!! Back to the game in hand. PNG has 3 ways of winning. 1. Is COVID. 2. Is IPad scandal for a forfeit from other team. Or 3. The world gets shut down. My prediction is 74-6 FB. This will not be much of a contest. Track meet one way, disaster the other. As I have posted all year. We played for the 4th spot and got it. One and done. Don’t be mad at me for the truth. I do not have our defensive stats, but I can only imagine what we give up per game... Sorry Rah Rahs....

Belichick, Saban, and Surratt are still weighing their options for 2021.

Coincidentally, I have some coaching friends that coach some "really good kids". The argument I've made (even on this site) for quite some time is that a team has to have a decent coaching STAFF that's capable of getting maximum potential effort from the players, a group of good players, and favorable competition in order to make any considerable noise in the W column. More times than not you have to have at least 2 of those 3. I'm not defending this guy.. I don't even know him. Just reiterating that there's much more involved than whoever the head coach is. Wanna make a change? Make a change.. but there is no quick fix. Often it's just the opposite.

Ahh that’s the crap BH ran during the Gage years. I hated that offense.

Yes, the one trick pony hung about 450 yards of offense in the league’s number one defense. I guess the rest of the district better hope that next year they don’t find another trick... 😂

I’ll take this one, you see my opinion on this is... nah, on second thought I ain’t touching that one with a 10 ft pole lol.

I anticipate that they WILL get a lot better. They will play their best basketball at the end of the year. And they will win their district based on competition. In the old district, it would have been a three way dogfight.

I'll be at the next game. I have a good idea of how this one played out though. Got ate alive all night long trying to trap and press and gave up a million easy baskets. BU could have probably scored 100 by halftime if they had wanted to. I know we're young and inexperienced and nothing we could have done would have resulted in a W, but man 🤮

Sounds like knife through butter...elite guards see back court pressure and their eyes light up like a fat kid eyeing a Big Mac. Run the clock for Pete’s sake.

I'll take that bet. Blind squirrels do find nuts. The Indians will fall ass backwards into at least two or three first downs. They may get one or two first downs due to penalties. The Purple Pride band will fire-up Cherokee for that. The defense does not make many stops, but FBM will fumble, throw an INT, or the ball will bounce our way at least once during the game. That's another Cherokee moment. The band kids may need to stretch in the 3rd and 4th Q. Well, if you have to stand and stretch, that's a Cherokee moment. Someone in the student section or a giddy band parent will yell out that PN-G beat Nederland this season. Well, that's another Cherokee moment. The band director will sit through the game thinking about his pay check and then, poof, he will suddenly remember that he gets paid to play Cherokee. So, there's another opportunity to fire up the song. Pho Rizzle, you should change your prediction. The score may be 70-24 in favor of the Buffs, but PN-G will fire-up Cherokee at least 20-25 times. It's in the DNA. Honor, Pride and Tradition...long live Cherokee. Go Indians. Peace.

How many PN-G games you been to? It will be played 3 times before the coin toss.

The Bulldogs will be too much for the Texans. Was no surprise China Spring was no contest for Carthage, they should have never been there , but in the year of Covid strange things have happened. A healthy WOS would have given Carthage a decent game, but Carthage is just to well put together for 4A.

Found this some pretty cool stats for Pirate fans on texashighschoolfootballhistory.com The past 20+ seasons under Coach Mathews shows that the last two years shows the Pirate defense gave up the least points the last two seasons with (144) in 2019 and (133) in 2020 given they only played 9 games respectively both years. These impressive numbers given that they are Vidor's, goes back to 1984 when that defense only gave up (118) points on a 6-4 ball club. But factor in different types of offense "may" have effected those low totals also. Anyways, the nephew told me today he was named Defensive MVP for district this season.🏴‍☠️

Lol. Unfortunately our inept leaders won’t connect the dots. It’s appeasement at best. They’re just throwing us a bone.

Wow, much like the Nederland Fans annual celebration has gone since Doug Ethridge retired back in 1983. Total Mid County Madness Dominance during his reign as Head Coach.

Weather permitting a lower scoring game will enhance the chances of a closer game. Watched Manvel last week they are worthy of the #5 5A ranking however hard work beats talent when talent dont show up to play.

I was thinking about that game when I made my last post. I also was trying to allude to there is no more Central, or Ozen. All the players and resources are concentrated in one program now. McCain, Adams, Bush, et al, not walking out of the dressing room for Silsbee anymore. They said the same thing when the greats of the past left too. It is time for the new guys to write some more chapters in the history books.

Beaumont always puts out basketball players. There were times when Central and Ozen were both in the top 4 or 5 in the polls. Now you got all that dna or most of it, going to BU.

I remember when Central blew the doors off Silsbee back in 2014/15 season. The next year a freshman lead team with McCain and Adam's beat Central and West Brook 3 years in a row. I dont think Miller is back and they have a player a very tough schedule and no tournaments. Get your licks in now, it won't be that way soon.

Carthage is a VERY vell oiled machine......they will be state champs!!

But they can vote😂

The folks over in PNG beg to differ.

So true, but to think you can put all your best football players on defense and think you are going to win is asinine. Yes, you have to get stops on defense to win, but you put great effort kids on defense, you put kids that are always going to be in the right spot, you put kids on defense that are always going to do what they are told and do it with intensity and aggressiveness. You put your best athletes on offense. Regardless of the scheme or system that you run.

I heard they didnt miss...

Galena Park runs the flex bone- similar to the service academies. The OC ran it when he coached at C. E. King.

Breaking ... Joe Biden has increased his lead in Georgia by 357 suitcases.

I don’t appreciate all these thieving states diluting our Texas electoral votes with all this bullshit they did to steal the election. They should all be put on trial for Treason! Good to see Texas leading the way!

The day ole scary Larry retired was a national holiday for all png residents. I hear they still celebrate every year to this day

I like both and I like BC too. LCM will be in the playoff hunt too. But ultimately I think it’s Silsbee’s district. They might stumble a time or two though.

Current state ranking. Nederland IS state ranked this year...

Going to look up both of these tomorrow.

You get these kind of years. Keep playing and getting better like last year’s team did and then see what happens. I hope this inexperienced Tiger team puts up a better showing vs BU when they play at home...

End 1st 21-10 Newton

Dang 39 in the first......

The lockdowns will end when you choose to defy them. And not before. Politicians do not willingly give back power. Ever. It’s never happened.

Fuller

I have a hard time imagining that PNG could win 1 in a 1000 times against this team. This will be a bloodbath. The only thing that will keep FBM from scoring 70+ points is the restraint of their coaches. In PNGs defense, I think FBM would hang 60-70 on every team in our district. Good luck PNG!! I hope you guys pull off the miracle!!

Quarantine for the varsity players ends today and they can be back at school starting tomorrow. They will be back at it tomorrow, preparing for WO-S on Friday at Lumberton.

Yeah no doubt, my buddy said Pasadena has a 6ft8 kid so will be good test I’m sure

I love Texas. If anyone doesn’t..... LEAVE! I suggest I-10.

Pretty generous of them. Maybe they meant in the 3rd Qtr. 😂

Cal prep has Carthage by 35 points

Eventually, someone's gonna give the Bulldogs a decent game. This might be the week that happens, but I doubt it. Carthage is a machine.

Im sick of your shxt. @WOSgrad lock this thread please.

May of just been old news. Last year's team only had one return with varsity experience.

I am floored, thought for sure you would pick the Timberpups to win by double digits.

I'm surprised by nothing that happens in Florida.

Nah... kid looked Hispanic. They run hot.