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So the basis is now bribery, not racism? This is getting ridiculous. Even taking the wild rumor of a bribe as true, there would be no interesting lawsuit against TASO. Vicarious liability, which is defined as an entity being liable for the acts of its agent, does not apply in cases of intentional act of the agent unless the entity required that action or it was reasonably foreseeable. Taking a bribe, which is apparently the new allegation, is an intentional act. The referee himself, if this ridiculous allegation is true, could be liable, but you would not reach the deep pockets of TASO. And the NAACP can threaten all of the legal action it wants, it is just blowing smoke. It has no standing to bring a suit in this case. It can provide attorney's for the "injured" parties, it can be the driving force, but it can't be the filing party to this suit as it has no standing to do so. I also find it telling that despite all of this, there is no report of either LBJ High School or Austin ISD making any contact with the UIL about this. The only one I see being close to having legal action are the members of the officiating crew who have now had allegations of racism (despite the fact that at least one of the members of that "racist crew" was African American) and now bribery thrown at them, with what is out there right now, not much basis for it. It doesn't reach it yet, but this is becoming dangerously close to turning into a defamation lawsuit. Ultimately, the only effect that will come out of this is a chilling effect on anyone who wants to enter into officiating. On top of verbal abuse and social media complaints, we have now seen officials become the victims of battery and now subject to civil and/or criminal allegations because someone did not like their calls. Yeah, that makes me want to get out there for 50 bucks a game.5 points
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Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
STiger85 and 2 others reacted to BMTSoulja1 for a topic
Well, that and superior coaching, facilities, a supportive community and culture among other things.3 points -
I strongly disagree if Bush was 6’1 he would have been able to go anywhere in the country are we looking at what they did in high school or what they gonna do in college because Bush obviously outplayed them in high school look at team accomplishments and he lead that team when he got to high school and let’s look early in college at 5’6 what he is doing going to a power 5 don’t make you better3 points
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LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
exsoftballplayer and one other reacted to Tiger33 for a topic
The local NAACP has filed a complaint with the UIL following Friday's state semifinal game between the Lindale Eagles and the Austin LBJ Jaguars. The Eagles won the game 31-28, but the NAACP believes it was because of unfair officiating. The president of the Austin NAACP asked the UIL to postpone Friday's state championship game until an investigation can be completed, but the UIL said that's not going to happen. It was after the Friday Night lights turned off in Humble, that LBJ Jaguar coach Jahmal Fenner had a chance to look over video of his team's loss during the state semifinal game. "It just drove it home for me that what I felt during the game, that something wasn't right. It just confirmed it for me," Fenner said. After the first half of the game, the Jaguars led 28 to 7. In the second half, Fenner said officials called 16 penalties on the Jaguars, while ignoring all but two penalties made by the Eagles. The Eagles went on to win by a field goal after an LBJ touchdown was called back. "I don't feel like my players and my team lost that game solely because we played bad or we made bad calls. Yes, some of that did take place, but the officials had took part in some of that as well," said Fenner. Dozens of parents and players are also convinced something was up. Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder said he received about 60 calls and letters regarding officials at the game. Although the NAACP doesn't usually get involved in high school football, Linder said this time he felt it was necessary. "It was definitely a racial issue. I got some calls about racial slurs, people being ugly, nasty, no doubt about it," said Linder. "I don't like being a sportscaster. I'm not good at that, but I do understand what's right, what's wrong, what's fair, what's unfair. This to me is very, very clear. This was ugly. It should never have occurred in any sport for these young people. These kids, their spirits have been broken," he added. Linder asked the UIL to take action prior to the state championship game, which the Eagles play in on Friday night. "Look at the tapes. Look at some of the complaints. Check out the referee's background, make a decision. Postpone tomorrow night's game, replay the game, come up with a fair solution where the best team, the deserving team, plays in the state championship," Linder said. The UIL responded in a statement to Fox 7 Austin that reads, "All officials are agreed upon by both parties in advance of a game and per the UIL Constitution and Contest Rules section 1204, a protest based on a game or contest official’s decision will not be considered. While the UIL will not be formally investigating this matter, The Texas Association of Sports Officials has a process for reporting rule misapplication by an official and investigating such reports." The NAACP has since responded, "We will definitely pursue this process further. Of course, we were intent upon filing the complaint before tomorrow night's championship game. It was important to let the students know that we knew they were treated unfairly. We will now take our concerns to the Texas Association of Sports Officials. It’s important that these kinds of incidents are exposed to the public. We will also consider possible legal actions." Lindale athletics did not respond to requests for comment.2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Crawford and one other reacted to Bulldogs92 for a topic
You can probably pencil them in for next year, too. There will be a few contenders and I hope we're one of them, but it's hard to imagine much drop-off from them.2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Gasilla and one other reacted to Bulldogs92 for a topic
We did. That would have put us in the third round (I think). Getting blown out then by the state champion is better than getting blown out in bi-district.2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
piratevillain and one other reacted to NDNTime for a topic
Carthage would make a deep run in 5A...either division.2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
dj and one other reacted to SmashMouth for a topic
Thank you. Errybody makes fun of me when I say that...2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Mr. Buddy Garrity and one other reacted to ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING for a topic
Next year won't be any different2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Crawford and one other reacted to Mr. Buddy Garrity for a topic
Congrats to Carthage on yet another State Championship.2 points -
LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
exsoftballplayer and one other reacted to Realville for a topic
Here’s a theory....Maybe Lindale was the better team that night.2 points -
Do we really believe there are officials, who are working games for pennies, for the sole intent of ensuring one race of kids wins over another race of kids? And even if those guys are out there (which, for clarity, I do not believe they are), do we really believe they would be throwing racial slurs around exposing their nefarious intent during games? Come on man.2 points
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LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
Mr. Buddy Garrity and one other reacted to piratevillain for a topic
Those to 4th down missed conversions in their own territory doesn't help their cause much. But there was a lot of BS calls against LBJ, I will say that.2 points -
LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
piratevillain and one other reacted to CardinalBacker for a topic
When you can’t out-athlete the other team... gotta be racism.2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
BMTSoulja1 reacted to Crawford for a topic
Center is in the same district, so when I saw Carthage had drop down to Div. II after winning state in Div. I, I'm like "well hell, just go ahead and hand them the district and state title." Crazy good.1 point -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Bulldogs92 reacted to SmashMouth for a topic
No doubt. Anybody wanna argue about how ANY other 4A-D2 team in the state had a chance? 😎1 point -
***UIL State Title Game Thread***
piratevillain reacted to BHFAN for a topic
This is starting to look a little racist!1 point -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
SmashMouth reacted to purpleeagle for a topic
Ann Jasper wanted to play these guys again.1 point -
Crosby Vs Texas High!
CowbellCoog reacted to Bigdog9 for a topic
Would have loved to see a potential 3rd round png matchup. But definitely now hoping to get a potential Nederland vs Crosby/BH matchup in the 4th1 point -
***UIL State Title Game Thread***
exsoftballplayer reacted to snakehead26 for a topic
Carthage 42-14 at half1 point -
Voter Fraud
CardinalBacker reacted to PAMFAM10 for a topic
It’s unbelievable this is still even a conversation. Trump lost been lost and nothing is going to change that. You got senate majority leader attorney general a heavy right leaning Supreme Court. All saying BS to all this fabricated evidence. At this point it’s just the uneducated and idiots that will believe anything trump tell them country be damn. This is what the Republican Party has come to under complete control from a Orange impeached 1 term clown. It’s funny because the narrative has always been it’s the left that’s snowflakes. Left that’s low information. The maga hats said hold my beer. Im confused as if it’s a joke I was not included in or people really this dumb. God bless the USA 🇺🇸1 point -
The head ref was giving his audio pack to a guy in a maroon hoodie if that’s what your talking about. I’m assuming that guy was in charge of the field and probably didn’t care who won the game lol. That’s a silly allegation they are trying to make that he got paid off. I’m sure if a ref does get paid off it’s behind close doors.1 point
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Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Rez reacted to PhatMack19 for a topic
Fox sports southwest1 point -
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Wow! You didn't take the same law school classes that I did. Your allegation of vicarious liability is like saying that your employer is liable for you killing someone while driving drunk because it could possibly happen. That is not reasonable forseeability and is not "'institutional negligence." As with the NAACP, any of TASO's lawyers would represent the client, not the organization. Any inkling that they did otherwise would put a lawyer's license in jeopardy. As to your defense of a libel claim, the Washington Post and CNN thought like you did. Now Nicholas Sandman is now a very rich young man. You target a specific group who names are easily accessible, then you have identified under the law. Second, an organization or new organization does, under the law have a duty to investigate allegations made before publishing. If they did not, yes, they are liable. And as for the NAACP, that horse escaped the barn with this little statement: "It was definitely a racial issue. I got some calls about racial slurs, people being ugly, nasty, no doubt about it," said Linder. "I don't like being a sportscaster. I'm not good at that, but I do understand what's right, what's wrong, what's fair, what's unfair. This to me is very, very clear. This was ugly. It should never have occurred in any sport for these young people. These kids, their spirits have been broken," he added.1 point
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Lumberton 62 Little Cypress-Mauriceville 46/FINAL
BMTSoulja1 reacted to RaiderGirl2010 for a topic
Oh whatever1 point -
Huffman Hargrave 66 Hardin-Jefferson 44/FINAL
BlueOwl reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
😁 But I do believe in this case that HJ is the more talented team than Huffman.1 point -
LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
BMTSoulja1 reacted to gogo1734 for a topic
So, I watched the video of the link attached in LC-M's post. The man representing the NAACP specifically said "people" were saying racial slurs. He did not say officials. In a complaint based mostly on the way the game was officiated, one would have to think if the officials were the "people" throwing out racial slurs, this would have most certainly been mentioned.1 point -
Aint it a hoot how we are supposed to show sovereignty to our state brothers and allow them to handle their elections in the manner which they see fit, but if those same state brothers have evil people, rioting and burning down their cities without any of these city/state officials doing one thing to stop it, then it’s Trump’s fault. You know, the blame game is so convenient, especially when one man gets it all and no one, I mean no one else is to blame. Trump did send the feds to Seattle or Portland and was met with much resistance. If they would have capped a few of those punks, it would have subsided. Remember antifa began surrounding the mayor of Portland’s house? THEN she realized it was a problem. Convenience again.1 point
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Huffman Hargrave 66 Hardin-Jefferson 44/FINAL
TxHoops reacted to TrojanWarrior08 for a topic
Maybe top 4 and I don't want people thinking that I'm gung-ho for Shepherd but they have size over there but time will tell eventually1 point -
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LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
Mr. Buddy Garrity reacted to SmashMouth for a topic
You would think that’s what they meant, but it is not clearly identified. They need some clarification before making such a broad statement.1 point -
LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
piratevillain reacted to BMTSoulja1 for a topic
It said there were reports of several racial slurs being used. That don’t sound like BS to me. THAT is definitely grounds for an investigation.1 point -
It’s amazing how dead people always vote Democrat.1 point
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LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
exsoftballplayer reacted to Tiger33 for a topic
I watch the second half of the game and I believe the game was lost due to coaching and the kids coming out flat. It appeared that Lindale wanted the game more. Thoughts?1 point -
Beaumont United 90 Galena Park 17/FINAL
BMTSoulja1 reacted to united we stand for a topic
My bad this was Galena Park Yellow Jackets1 point -
They’re still being pre-printed and mailed in from beyond the grave.1 point
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Lumberton 62 Little Cypress-Mauriceville 46/FINAL
5GallonBucket reacted to DXTR for a topic
So who won...Lumberton or LCM? 😁1 point -
Area Players that Signed NLI today
CardinalBacker reacted to 2wedge for a topic
This is my yearly reminder that no one signs with D3 colleges. They are committed to show up and play, but there are no ramifications if they decide not to show up or if they go to another school at the last minute. There are no scholarships in D3 so there is nothing to sign. It's still quite the accomplishment, but it irks me when the pageantry associated with a player signing to play football at Alabama is duplicated by someone signing to play football at ETBU. And before anyone comes at me for disrespecting D3 sports, I am not doing that. I played D3 football and understand exactly how talented the kids are out there. Everyone on those D3 fields was first team all district where they came from and can absolutely go. I just hate that we have watered down every thing in today's culture. Sheesh, select baseball players get rings for finishing second place in John's baseball tournament in BFE Texas. Sorry, rant over.1 point -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
NHSBulldogFan reacted to bulldawg64 for a topic
Go bulldogs from a bulldog!1 point -
Huffman Hargrave 66 Hardin-Jefferson 44/FINAL
TrojanWarrior08 reacted to TxHoops for a topic
Me too. I wouldn’t be surprised if the top 3 teams all split.1 point -
Vidor @ Lumberton Friday
lovemesometxsports reacted to Mark Chesnutt for a topic
If I am Vidor, I am not sure I want this to be the first game back vs the L Town Boys1 point -
Silsbee 86 Orangefield 64/FINAL
BADSANTA reacted to BMTSoulja1 for a topic
Yea, that’s true about McCain...1 point -
Could have sworn Adams was 6'1 his freshman year. Even remember him being listed as such on the roster 🤷1 point
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No, Devon McCain. He was 5'8". when his Fr season started. By the playoffs he was 6'1". He transferred from Austin Peay to Clarendon College in the Texas Panhandle.1 point
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Silsbee 86 Orangefield 64/FINAL
BADSANTA reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
Pretty sure he is referring to Adams1 point -
HJ missing any players?1 point