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What the hell is wrong with just a good ol’ American flag? I saw one of the huge ones flapping in the wind today and thought what a beautiful sight. The freedom provided by that flag is what allows you to fly whatever flag you want to - ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY. I just do not get this at all and take it as a slap in the face!

But I'll add to this... I think the Supreme Court taking up the abortion issue again is a mistake. The precedent has always been not to re-visit the decisions of previous courts. If anybody knows of anything that differentiates this new case from Roe v Wade, I'd like to hear it. Besides the first reason, I also disagree because this will push the Dems into trying to "pack" the supreme court. We really don't need situations where the Supreme Court becomes politicized and takes up previous decisions that were reached by a court with a different make-up. The obvious solution is to add members to the court. We're at 6-3 right now.... adding 4 Justices makes it a 7-6 split the other way. Then the Rs will turn right back around and add a few the next time that they are in power to grind old axes. That alone is reason enough to leave it be. Also, abortion has been legal since 1973. 48 years! It has literally been legal longer than most Americans have been alive. Young people don't feel as strongly about it being "wrong" for a lot of reasons. If you really want to be the party of old guys trying to take away freedoms that these young people have had their whole lives, go right ahead.... you'll pay for it at the polls. The simple answer is to draft a constitutional amendment to make it illegal. Have it ratified by the states and it will truly be outlawed. Except the pro-lifers don't have the necessary votes.... so it should just be left alone.

@TradenupBH called me bitter and a smart*** so I went back and pulled up some threads re. The TW hire. There are plenty of “Watch out, here comes BH!” posts out there. But not by @TradenupBH . He has been consistent and realistic throughout. I stand by my opinion. Quite a few people missed or were unrealistic. But he didn’t.

Totally unverifiable post, just information that was relayed by a football guy that lives in the BH district: Word in the back room is that TW left mainly because of the superintendent. Supt. would come into the office and question TW about some of the coaching decisions he was making. Undoubtedly the supt. used to coach in his pre-administrative days? The son left this past season after a discussion with the supt. that included something along the lines of "This isn't Dallas, you're not winning down here without athletes" from KW. Heard the Westerbergs were a little surprised with the personnel and the nonchalant attitude from the kids and parents towards winning in BH. Not sure exactly what part of the season/offseason it was but he gave an example of kids pulling into the parking lot for Saturday practice/workouts with boats hooked up to their trucks like, "We just have to hurry and get through this so we can go do X and not really focusing on the work that needed to be put in." Supposedly there are two things that happened that really rubbed TW the wrong way more than the supt.'s arrogance and questioning of his coaching. One was the hair situation that happened at BH. BH had several transfers lined up at the skill positions for the upcoming season and all pulled out after the news. Second, there was supposedly some school meeting where the supt. informed the staff that the district bought some land around I-10 and HWY 99 to keep an apartment complex that would've been zoned to BH from being built. Comment was along the lines of "We don't need that in our district". Sounds like the supt. just wore TW out and TW not really having to deal with it just chose to leave. Was also told the supt. has already reached out to Surratt who said he was good. The one sentiment I didn't get was that this was some sudden decision TW made, he had been on the fence for a while. I commented earlier about what TW would tell other coaches who asked him for advice about the BH job and now I think that's even more pertinent. *Unrelated - was told the supt. fired Price because he benched his son his senior year. Dick Olin had a lot to do with Murray ending up in Allen playing for his buddy TW after leaving Lewisville. TWs BASE salary was in the $160k range but had escalators pertaining to other sports that could've taken his salary to the $180k range.

I have a kid that plays. I am his biggest fan and very emotional in the stands. I try to distance myself from the emotional here. I attempt to be more analytical. And also remove biases from my thought process. Compile the following Crosby data points from spring 2019: - Superintendent ousted. (Leadership) - Financial scandal. (Uncertainty) - Significant reduction of force. (Resources and Uncertainty). - HC leaves (Leadership). - New HC has no HC experience (Uncertainty). Now, knowing all this and not what you know now, take yourself back to that summer. And tell people that Crosby will be playing for a state title in 2 seasons. That statement, while not impossible (obviously), would be considered highly unlikely by a majority of people. Compile the following BH data points- - BH has ample $$ (Resources). - BH has a tradition of success (culture). - New Coach has multiple state titles. (Leadership / Culture). - New Coach has coached amazing talent (Leadership / Culture). Now, knowing all this and not what you know now, take yourself back to that summer. And tell people that BH will win 3 playoff games in the next 5 years and TW will leave. Again, that statement, while not impossible (obviously), would be considered highly unlikely by a majority of people. Call it “beating the odds” or “bad/good luck” or whatever you want. BH underperformed based on the expectations that were reasonable as set forth in the points above. Crosby overperformed based on the expectations that were reasonable as set forth in the points above.

My popcorn is getting stale.

This is Coach Lance Dale and I appreciate the confidence or joking matter of y’all using my name for the Tarkington job which ever one it was but FYI I am very happy in Anahuac and have been promoted to OC next year and love working for Coach Greg Neece!!! Go Panthers. I have no interest in this job but I wish Tarkington the very best!!!! I hope this clears this matter up for everyone.

This one would again cause riots and more calls to defund the police if the roles were reversed.

It seemed odd his son would leave for Whitehouse, then this happened. Guessing either there are issues in BH they both wanted out of. Or BH didn't want the son taking over.

Thats right. I am sure TW is an decent coach but the powers that be at BH completely failed to realize he was not going to have a Kyler Murray & co. to coach when they made the hiring decision 5 years ago. When that hire was made, I had this very discussion with a co-worker from BH and I told him that very thing. TW without Murray & co. is just an ordinary coach, but got paid an extraordinary price simply due to the perception of being elite. An ideal candidate for BH would be someone similar to the late Jeff Walker from Liberty Hill. That was truly a great coach that over-performed with only average talent to work with. I hope BH has learned from this very expensive lesson, and will make a great, thoughtful hire.

KM was special. TW won 3 with him. Before and after that, not being able to get out of Reg 1. If it was Euless Trinity, it was SLC or somebody else knee capping Allen with all those kids, etc

I’ve been in this area for way longer than 10 years. Multiple kids, lots of sports, theatre, band, all the great stuff. Known kids and coaches all over. I’ve never questioned TWs pedigree or talent. There were plenty of people on this board and other forums/social media that talked about this hire being part of the plan to make BH a contender for titles. Nobody guaranteed it. But it was discussed. When Riordan left Crosby, the chatter was about how many years until Crosby was competitive again. Buncha wise guys will tell you “I knew they would come back fast and stronger than ever!” Yeah. Ok. (Well…except that one guy.) Crosby overperformed. TW was a splash hire for good money (that’s the market, he earned it). Nobody was talking about indoor facilities, S/C programs 5 years ago. It was about wins. Coaches don’t get hired for “moral victories”. I’m finding it difficult to generate any bitterness around the fact TW underperformed and left.

The locals (not you guys, uh...other locals) have changed their stories as the results came in. The hire was high profile when it happened. As it should be. Highly paid. TW had a resume of titles. TW had players of the highest caliber that played at Allen. If 5 years ago, somebody had said "3 playoff wins in 5 years", the locals would have disagreed and said you're crazy. He underperformed. I have a few other, too long, posts about this being all about the context of the hire. This wasn't just another hire. Wasn't supposed to be. The idea (from the locals) was that here was a guy getting paid state title money, coming from a state title school, going to a district that had the money and culture to bring home...state titles. That didn't happen. 39-17 in 5 years. 3 playoff wins. 2 District titles. (A district that has been dominated by 2-3 teams the last 10 years). About 3 years in, I asked when BH will say "Yeah, didn't work out and we need to move on." Looks like TW made the decision before that point. Someone posted a list of coaches that have put away some titles with other schools. What makes anybody think the results will be any different than the last 5 years? Just not so sure paying the most money for the most successful coach on the market makes a program more successful.

Jason Garrett, Wade Phillips, Jeff Fisher, Tom Herman, Rex Ryan and others have been rumored for this job.

Not sure if anyone has been following, but we had a rare occurrence this week. Two district foes met in the finals for a state championship. After finishing first and second at the district tournament AND AGAIN at the regional tournament, Sabine Pass’s Travis Mistry and Deweyville’s James Menard met in the final match at the 2A State Tournament. As was the case the previous two times, Mistry again came out on top. But what an incredible accomplishment for both young men - congrats! [Hidden Content]

And there’s a team a little closer to home than Vandy who is #2 😉

I totally get all this, and honestly don't have a big disagreement with any of it.

I know it may seem like I'm some big proponent of abortion. It's not something that I like, but it's legal, and making it illegal would cause tremendous problems that most conservatives want to gloss over or ignore. It's very easy for a bunch of men to sit around and talk about what a woman should have to do with her own body and what's in it. It's also easy when we don't ever have to worry about accidently getting pregnant, or getting raped and getting pregnant, or having birth control fail and getting pregnant, or getting pregnant and having it cause life-threatening medical issues. My wife has a friend who had a bunch of abortions. She'd just get knocked up every year or two and then go terminate it. I lost all respect for her because of it. That said, I have a friend who's 15-year-old got pregnant, and they chose to terminate it. I looked at it differently.

NOOOOO! Not the Ferrari!

Good lord. Also I heard that the super keyed TW’s car and hit it on his wife😂 and the super only allows white kids to wear their hair as they may. Other rumors to come stay tuned.

Well, Liberty Hill averaged 57ppg this year, including dogging out some 6As, and was one point away from the title game running the . . . (clears throat) . . . slot-T. Buda Hays made the semis against Katy running it this year and SA Wagner was in the 5A-D1 semis against Shadow Creek running it in 2019. So there's precedent for running it with success in the higher classifications. BH definitely has better overall athletes than LH does.

Thinking this was nothing but "smoke" and no fire.

Exactly. My grandmother was a counselor for Birthright for decades. She counseled young women and men on alternatives to abortion. She saved thousands of lives in doing so. Funny, she never considered throwing away not one of those “unwanted” souls.

Thomas is graduating. Both are gone.

Here's the list of 7on7 State Champs since 2015....seems like pretty all of them are also good at real football the following season...there are a few years when a team wins it that isn't great at real football but most of the time the teams that win the state tournament are also good at the real stuff 2015 Austin Westlake 14-2 Navasota 12-1 2016 The Woodlands 15-1 Kaufman 8-4 2017 Lake Travis 13-3 Graham 14-1 2018 College Station 9-3 Midlothian Heritage 11-2 Gunter 15-1 2019 A&M Consolidated 11-1 Sunnyvale 12-1 Poth 11-2

Absolutely, it’s a problem that conservatives will have to deal with and defeat. It will be almost impossible while there are still a majority of dunces that buy their lies.

Keep in mind this is an open forum for all fans, not limited to any particular schools insiders. Expect anyone to talk about anything, don't take it personal, its just how these work. TW was a high profile hire that made news around the whole state, and his subsequent performance and eventual leaving is just as news worthy, too. As I said, I hope BH makes a wiser hire this time, and brings someone in who can develop the program to the max.

Black Lives Matter is a racist organization, proven when people said, All Lives Matter and got hoorahed off the stage. For our country to fly those flags is a disgrace. Holy pig snot, give me strength.

How many times did St Urban Mayer invoke his health, family, etc when he quit a major job. Like I said, BH barely made a dent in 5A D2 and their numbers at the lower levels suggest that 6A is that white dot in that tunnel heading their way fast

Defund the police comes from an overthrow tactic used since Marx. If you say something enough times, people will start to believe it. You can call it brainwashing, indoctrination, re-education or whatever. In some ways it is almost like the Stockholm Syndrome where hostages start siding with the criminals that take them hostage and threaten their lives. The police are not the problem in any neighborhood but they are portrayed to be such for political gain. Like in the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson, MO. It was put out as a story that he was surrendering on his knees. The facts, witnesses and physical evidence completely refuted that claim. The US Department of Justice and the FBI spent a year and a few million dollars and ended up with the same conclusion that the county DA did in a few days. That was there was no evidence of wrongdoing by the officer. The police were not the problem there either yet it caused nationwide riots. Even with this defund the police mantra we need to ask ourselves, does the Black community feel the same way as they are portrayed? Do the protesters represent the entire Black community? Let’s see what the Gallup Poll survey says about that in a poll released in August 2020. [Hidden Content] According to Gallup 81% of Blacks want as much police presence “or more”. Compare that to 88% of Whites and 83% of Hispanics. That seems like very similar options especially considering the beating that the police receive in the press in the Black community. Maybe even more telling is that 20% of Blacks and 24% of Hispanics want “more”’ police in they neighborhoods as opposed to 17% of Whites. So the minority communities (who the narrative is that hate the police), actually wants more of them than the White population. I can guarantee from experience, those minority communities in most cases already have a larger police presence and yet they want more. I am glad that they want more but that isn’t the narrative put out by the media who gets clicks and money by controversy and some segments that promote their own political status. From Gallup I believe it shows what I think, that there is very little differences in communities but there is no benefit to saying that in some people’s opinions. In fact it hurts some political opinions to say, we are pretty much all the same. If you look at the Gallup survey, you will find what I believe. People have very little differences and want the same things regardless of race or community including a police presence. The problem comes from people that go to great lengths to try and convince others that they are different and that “they” (elected or unelected political figures) are the answer. The only thing they are the answer to is their own power. In my opinion....

I have no idea, don't have the answer. I can say with some certainty that many of those mothers will raise the child themselves. There are untold numbers of pregnant women that change their mind simply by hearing the heartbeat at a pregnancy crisis center. That's never an option at the planned parenthood abortion mills. I know this, killing millions of unborn children is not the answer as so many seem to think it is. That's kinda like saying if we solve the problem of starvation in Africa, where are we going to house and feed all those people?

I really enjoyed watching it. I thought he might cave in on Sunday, but he hung in there. Makes old folks like me feel pretty good. When Lefty is on, there is not to many players that can keep up. I think he may have one more major in him.

easy to say, but not as easy to make happen. for every unwanted baby that finds a loving home through adoption there are countless more that end up in horrible homes, foster care, or worse. Having gone through the adoption process, I can attest to the fact that there are lots of brand new babies available, and for only $20-30K, one can be yours! That said, add 500,000 unwanted babies a year into the mix, and it's gonna take about a month before you run out of homes for those babies. Then what, open state run orphanages? Federal orphanages? It's been my experience that the folks who care the most about unwanted, unborn fetuses are also the least interested in supporting those fetuses with their tax dollars after they're born. Most of them aren't lining up to take in other people's infants, either.

To be fair, he did get you guys a run thru tunnel. That's why you ran off Coach Price, right?

I asked around and heard from a board member that Wilson has not said much. I do know Wilson don't need money he's retired military and does really good for himself. That's what make him special because he does it for the right reason and not money. He will be missed over here for sure and I am sad to see him go but over here in Mustang Country its next man up.

Randy Travis, IMO had one of, if not the best country voices ever. I was always a fan of his hits, but when I watched the video below with him and George Jones, it gave me a new respect for Travis. I mean, at his age, singing George songs in front of George had to be nerve racking, but he killed it. If you have never hear this, it's worth the time.....

Why did TW fire the company that ran the strength and conditioning camp this year?

I'm not sure I agree or disagree with the shooting. We don't know the use of force guidelines. What I do know, is if this was a city police officer and she was black, the media would be up in arms and the headlines would read "unarmed black woman shot by police during mostly peaceful protest"

I’ve got 1 name responsible for Westerberg’s resume...he’s the QB for Arizona Cardinals. Until BH gets some more black kids out there they’ll never be very relevant in football. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, you’re not winning big in Houston area or East Texas without a good number of black kids on the team. Period. That being said, I think the distinguished tea sippers of Barbers Hill should bring in the great Reginald Samples to take the reigns.

Just a passenger for all those. But my longest would be Orange to Irving, and back, in 2000. Around 640 miles. First and last 1-day trip. Now I stay the night.

I was under the impression TW only went to BH for the money and AD position with no pressure to win a state title.....

Turn them into Crosby? We don’t have a Barrett Station. You and I both know that. There’s only so much that a coach can do my man. I think parents (that’s who will cry about coaches) are satisfied for the most part to be a top 4 team and have some success in the playoffs. Second or third round is a good BH season with the athletes we have. BH is a baseball and softball school with every now and then girls basketball. Academics are huge here and people are ok with it. People outside of BH are the ones that say we want more which isn’t the whole truth.

Keotting coaches at a lower level but he's pretty much what they've already been hiring. Koetting is already older like Westerberg and Gage were and they have talent near the top of their class. After seeing how it went for TW I think the biggest name they could potentially get is a guy like Carl Abseck at Cedar Park. If I was BH I would look hard in Central Texas where a bunch of winning teams do it with not much more than average talent. If they're not going to go the Riordan-type route then IMO a guy like Trey Sissom at FB Travis would be the perfect fit. BH doesn't produce rbs so a system like Sissom's would be ideal if they continue to play relative decent defense. I also like a guy like Brandon Schmidt at Prosper who does it against tough competition with slightly above average talent.

Art Briles!

There's no hypocrisy there.... it makes sense. But to stand around and yell "abortion stops a beating heart" and then advocate injecting humans with a cocktail of drugs that stops their heart from beating is just bonkers.

Hearing he's taking a Central Texas AD job. I wonder what BH's approach will be on this hire? They wanted coaches with championships under their belts and as such the last two coaches came to BH with six combined 6A titles(Gage's 2 at Lewisville would be considered 6A now). Over that eleven year span BH has won two district titles and has three playoff wins. Not to mention in the last five years they've compensated the Westerberg family right around $2M. Does BH back the Brinks truck up to a guy right down I-10 like John Kay at North Shore and pitch the idea that he can be the head football coach and the AD? Does the BH administration finally realize these guys they're hiring with multiple titles also have talent near the top of the class and hire a guy like Jeff Riordan, or do they go down the same route where they pay a bunch of money to a guy near the end of his career just to say they have a championship coach? I think Westerberg accomplished what he set out to do when he took the BH job. He made a bunch of money in a short span, got his son a head coaching job at Whitehouse and parlayed his time on The Hill into an even better retirement job. So much for great coaches being able to win anywhere.

Does regression ring a bell when thinking of Man Made Global Warming, Global Warming, Climate Change, or whatever the current hysteria driven name is? That is Scientific regression. We actually have people taking pot shots aimed at people that adhere to scientific methodology, by insinuating that we are "Neanderthals" (thanks for the analogy Biden) for asking for proof of a "theory" that has less evidential proof than the United States faking the moon landing. Or less evidence than the "theory" that Steven King was the one that actually shot John Lennon. Or that the Holocaust never happened. Or that Katy Perry is actually Jonbenet Ramsey. Or that Elvis is still alive. Or that women make 70 cents on the dollar for doing the same exact job with the same experience as a man. When do we start turning the tables by calling out the "Neanderthals" (thanks again Biden) for making such belittling statements. I guess I will start. If you believe what the media/politicians/fake climatologists have told you about Man Made Global Warming, and you are in favor of spending hard earned tax dollars to solve a problem that has never been proven to exist, then you are an Un-American deplorable (thanks Hillary) that has no business weighing in on a topic that is way beyond your comprehension. You are a detriment to the American (and the world) way of life. You need to learn your station and admit you are not capable of discussing issues with people of even moderate intellectual means. If you are offended...good. You deserve it. Put up or shut up. Show me the proof of your Climate Change religion. I bet none of you will. You've been challenged...and all I foresee is tails tucking between legs and running from the topic like a frightened schoolgirl. I have no doubt that the Al Gore disciples will be totally silent and will not dare respond to this challenge, but will reappear in a later topic to continually ridicule people that simply ask for the proof, pretending that this challenge never existed. Anyone care to take that bet?

My comment was directed to cb for his attempt to hijack this topic. I know his ways all to well. I agree with your analysis though, definitely offensive. Just choose to take the high road this time.

cool still racist though

Noted.