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Speaking of the difference athletes can make: Dwayne Dubois is a pretty good example. Took the program over at HJ and went 8-5 the first year, 11-2 the next, then went to bridge city. The next year HJ went 2-9, and had a record of 14-36 the next 5 seasons without Dubois. It would be easy to think that it was all Dubois. But he had a special group of players for those two years at HJ, and he left the year several graduated, and also took his son, the starting QB with him to Bridge City who coincidentally, or not, had a pretty special group of athletes coming through at the time. The year before he took over they were 2-8, but in his first two years at BC they went 7-5 and 9-3. So again, Dubois resurrected a program with his ability, right? Obviously he's a solid coach, but his third year at BC, after most of his good athletes graduated, he went 1-9. He then went to HJ were he went 5-5 and then 1-9. If he was solely responsible for those programs winning, or even a bigger factor than the athletes, there's no way either of those programs would've ever gone 1-9, yet they did when he lost his athletes.

It is athletes. Stan Howard was the head coach at both East Chambers and Tarkington. At EC he won, I believe 9 games in his only year there. At Tarkington, he didn't win 9 games in his 3 seasons combined.

But yet it keeps bringing you back! PS: Let me ask you this, before the Trump Russian collusion was finally declared a hoax -- did you originally believe it? It took awhile to prove it was hoax didn't it? So, point being, we have to let the election fraud run it's course to find the truth!

I already told you.. it's the lack of faith I have in what Tarkington has had on the field over what Briles would be able to do. I also told you.. Stephenville won AT LEAST 8 games in a season... ten different seasons before Briles took the job. Tarkington has never won more than 7 games in a season. Not even once. It takes an extreme level of ignorance to believe that coaches can just win championships no matter the level of talent they have to work with. You, my guy, are displaying that level of ignorance. I'm also waiting on a response about my question concerning Westerberg. Did he win the state championships because of his ability to coach?.. or because Kyler Murray was taking snaps? Or a combination of the two?.. which is what literally everyone in this conversation thinks except you. My opinion.. Murray had more to do with Westerberg's titles than Westerberg did. But I believe players > coaches.. Countless examples of subpar coaches winning championships with great players but very few (if any) great coaches winning championships with subpar players. I swear.. I'm halfway starting to believe that you believe that Art Briles could win a state championship with a junior high team.

Was Elijah Gales of WOS not even on the ballot for offense? - him not being atleast a finalist is asinine

Guess he forgot about this video. 😂

Obviously a great point sailed right over your head.

It's a lack of diversity combined with a lack of community interest/support. A good coach could improve the interest and support, but not the diversity.

Sanders was a human highlight reel and yes, Gales is the all-time leading WOS rusher.... headscratcher for sure

Those 2 players....Jordan Smith from Vidor and a couple other area kids are definitely deserving to be finalist.

18 pages 18 pages ..😂

So the guys from HF and Lumberton are more deserving because their teams won exactly one playoff game?

I can't believe that nobody's disgruntled about a Silsbee player that didn't make the list. Never mind... just scrolled up.

Seems like BC is good on Tuesdays (Oceguera) and not so good on Fridays.

List is not an accurate representation of the "best" players in the area.

"THIS IS A TRAVESTY!!!!!" Sincerely, Silsbee Fan

D-line guys have made finalist many times. Never had an O-line guy make finalist and they are rarely nominated. To my memory only one O-line dude has been nominated in the past 6 years.

I would hire Briles.. because Briles is still coaching. However, I would in zero way expect for him to win more than one playoff game unless he's bringing kids with him. I most definitely would not expect for him to win a state championship..because I'm not an idiot. And if my job depended on the success of the next football coach at Tarkington, I'd be ready to find a new job after my hire didn't meet whoever's criteria of whatever is deemed as success. Unless they have some realistic goals for a school that has won less than 5 playoff games (TOTAL) in it's history.

He’s definitely a Baller! He Should have a good season this year.

It happened in a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the country. This is obviously the result of a fight between two idiots with guns, not a targeted mass shooting. I'd bet the mortgage that both of the shooters have multiple previous arrests, but were let off lightly due to Cali's soft approach on criminals. There's also a high likelihood that they're convicted felons who were already breaking gun laws by possessing guns of any kind, and yet for some reason the laws didn't stop them.

These are the players I voted for: Offense Kheagan Heckaman QB Hamshire-Fannett Koby Trahan RB PN-G Dre'Lon Miller WR Silsbee Landon Corbit RB Anahuac Defense Darrius Byrd FS Hamshire-Fannett Jayron Williams LB Silsbee Leighton Foster LB Newton Amier Washington DE LC-M

Yes. Look for him to go both ways. He has the size, speed, and motor to go both ways.

I started to let this go, but on further thought, you deserve to be embarrassed again. You are stating that we should vote (or not vote) for a person because he is from New York City or Hollywood. Only extremely weak-minded people vote for stereotypes instead of the person...and this is exactly what you advocate. Like simpletons, you are obsessed with stereotypes. Not every southerner is a good person, not every Yankee or Californian is bad. Everyone from well-below average intelligence to extremely intelligent people know this. Hopefully one day you will ascend into this group, but it appears you have a ways to go before cracking into the bottom quadrant.

Hell at least these polls have Bellville’s record correct lol

I hope he's working with kids. He's got a gift.

what everyone (but you) has been saying, is that coaching, athletes, and community support all play a role. That said, the athletes are the most important piece of the puzzle, and there are breaking points in both directions. there's a point where a team can be so stacked with athletes that even a mediocre coach can win with them, and also a team can be so devoid of athletes that even an elite coach can't make them a consistent winner. Can great coaching improve a team? absolutely. Can great coaching turn a team that wins 1-2 games a year and has a tiny athlete pool into a state championship contender in 7 years? absolutely not, although they could probably turn them into a .500 team that flirts with a playoff win every few years, based on the coaching ability alone. Now, if that great coach starts to build things up, and a population explosion (or dubious transfer policies) bring in a lot of quality athletes, then yes, they can become a contender, but once again, that's all dependent on having the athletes.

They aren’t successful because the Subpar AD keeps hiring his Subpar buddies who shouldn’t be head coaches as BU’s head coach. He does this because they don’t want a new proven head coach to come in and clean house and bring in a new coaching staff. Because the existing coaches all have ties to him or administration some how. Beaumont needs to clean house upstairs and bring in new administration and get the academics up to par first then forget the buddy buddy crap and bring in a proven coach that knows how to discipline and turn programs like this around. Bring back the desire in these kids to want to play football and enjoy playing football. Make them want to be as dominating as their basketball team. They have the talent there. They just need the right people to get it out of them.

With the school board looking to change the name again at the stadium, why not transfer the name at the stadium on campus at West Brook to the new stadium? Can't think of a more deserving man to have his name on that stadium.

Not a coach. Just a tax paying plant hand throwing out my 2 cents.

I’ll let you figure out how stupid that sounds