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I read some news reports that said the school had an officer on scene and he exchanged gun fire with a suspect as he was entering the school, so almost immediately. A follow up said the school security officer might have exchanged gun fire, they were not sure. That is the problem with the news media. They are not worried about facts, they worried about innuendo and getting clicks on the articles. I don’t think they out right lie most of the time, they just do not check their sources. A rumor repeated becomes fact. There was a school resource officer on scene at the beginning of the Stoneman Douglas high school shooting in Florida. He refused to respond and stayed outside of the door while he heard shots being fired. I was told that if you hear a shot being fired, that is another child dying. Any officer who refuses to enter in that situation, in my opinion, is a coward and needs to drop his badge and his gun on the desk on the way out the door. I made several posts and comments at my police department ripping that officer apart saying that he was an disgrace. I have no problem making such a criticism. I would simply like to know what actually happened before I started pointing fingers.

When, as a society, are we going to realize that we created these monsters. It started with taking prayer out of school, then timeout, then not being able to discipline your child or face jail time, then comes the woke crowd who gets their panties twisted over anything. Now our kids don’t know what sex they are. I mean, how much more can we confuse them? And kids, they can be cruel. This kid was a loner/outcast. Not being accepted by one’s peers can cause people to lash out. Not making excuses for his actions, just trying to figure how stuff like this happens. A child left to figure right from wrong by themself will lean towards evil/wrong 99% of the time. These kids nowadays don’t have the fear of God in them. Gun control is a political battle and will have absolutely no effect on issues like this. I am a law abiding gun owner. Why is it always my fault someone decided to commit mass murder?

And let’s talk money. Drives a relatively nice truck. Has enough money to buy an AR-15 (or reasonable facsimile), a pistol and buku ammunition. Evidently someone was subsidizing his expenditures. More puzzle pieces.

Had the lead until the 6th and then the wheels fell off. Friendswood is a darn good squad!

That part about the value of human life is something that I think about a lot. It’s just commonly accepted that a person’s life just wasn’t worth as much in parts of Africa, The Middle East, South America, etc… then it kinda came to be that a person’s life wasn’t worth as much in our inner cities and even some rural areas. I think what we’re seeing is an overall decrease in the overall value of a human life anywhere in our country. I think it’s just a symptom of the degradation of our values collectively as a nation. I couldn’t help but notice Gayle King on CBS News this morning crying about “the babies” when last week she was mad as hell that the Republicans were gonna overturn Roe v Wade and make it harder for women to to abort their babies. The hypocrisy is mind blowing.

Nash rightfully named them the gestapo. Lol.

School shootings are probably not mass murders. I think if a guy accidentally shoots a gun in the parking lot, they call that a school shooting. In other cases might be one guy got mad at another guy and shot him in the leg. I tend to think that such person-to-person shootings happen more in larger inner-city areas than in rural areas. ND is pretty rural. The entire state has roughly twice the population of Harding, Jefferson and Orange counties. That is sometimes the problem with statistics. Many times the people that are anti-gun report how many gun deaths happen every year in the United States. What they call a gun deaths are not all homicides because it turns out that at least half of them are suicides. In some discussions however, the numbers are put out to imply that they are murders when in fact they are not. I have not checked in the last year but in most years approximately 2 to 3 times as many people are murdered with hands and feet than there are with rifles. Here is the FBI report on the known murders (criminal homicide) in the United States over a five-year period ending in 2019. Look at 2019 rifle murders, 364. Now look at personal (hands, feet, etc.), strangulation (which is also Personal however you are not beaten or kicked to death) and blunt objects such as striking someone with a hammer, ain personal but the hand held weapon killed instead of the hand itself. So The numbers for being hit with a hammer, beaten, kicked or strangled comes to more than 1,200. Toss in knives and the total goes to almost 3,000. Let’s see, 364 killed by those evil rifles and 1,200 with hands or blunt instruments held by the hand and 1,600 on sharp instruments held by the hand. So hands, feet or handheld items are 800% more likely to kill you than a rifle. Is it the weapon that is the problem or the person? So in 2019 we had 13,927 people murdered. If we could have saved the life of 100% of the people killed by a rifle, murder total and that year would drop to….. 13,563. Wow, getting rid of rifle would have a huge impact!!! In reality, most of those killed with a rifle could have been killed with a pistol but the actor simply had a rifle available. Therein lies the politics of gun control. If we could just get rid of those rifles and those high-capacity magazines……

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I also blame the parents. If either of my sons had the look in their eyes that this crazed individual had, I would know there is something wrong with him. If he is an introvert, has no friends to speak of, and looks like that, I would seek help for him. It might not stop it (nothing can), but I at least tried. Maybe his parents are worthless and he had to live with grandma. I’m grasping, I know, but it’s a very possible scenario. Haven’t heard from the parents.

I like your investigative mind. I wonder why they pick on the kids. Is it to make it as heinous as possible? Since they are generally on a suicide mission, why take the kids with you? Just put the gun to your head and make the world a better place.

Australia has strict gun laws as does the UK neither of which have a higher crime rate than the US.

I wonder why DPS Sargent Estrada told the media differently yesterday if it wasn't true.

This is my two cents on teachers with guns. We all know that the protocol is such a situation in almost every school is a lockdown. Shelter in place behind a locked door. If a teacher is in a room with 20 students and the door is locked but the bad guy forces his way in, the incident stops right there at the door. As it is now, if a shooter forces his way into a room, the only defense is throwing books at him. I am certainly not against a teacher who sees a gunman walk by that classroom and peaks out to see the gunman’s back turned, stepping out and bringing the fight to him. Swift and aggressive force is how you can turn the tables on an ambush but I just not “expecting” teachers to take the offensive. If they wish to do so however, go for it.

Need to get some live action going until august.....

Lawd you just summoned you know who to get on this thread. 😂

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It never hurts to listen. Unfortunately, everything gets turned into a political mess.

I wonder sometimes if I'm the only one who's walking around thinking "this is really messed up.... I wonder if we SHOULD be thinking about options?" I don't see any that wouldn't infringe upon the 2A, but I'd be interested in hearing any that might be floated.

Also, Cedar Hill. That Belt Line corridor of Lancaster, Desoto, Cedar Hill, with Duncanville sitting on I-20, is the most talent laden corridor in the state.

It happens everywhere. Bigger ISDs have the luxury of apartment complexes that can be a new "permanent address" at the drop of a hat. But it's not unique to the metroplex. What I have suggested previously is to make all transfers sit a calendar year regardless of the reason. That would hurt some but eliminate the illegal transfers. Anyway.. just my opinion.

I agree, you can't. It's pretty amazing how composed some of these children remained during this, even helping others.

I notice several post referring to “value of life cheapened”. I mentioned it in my last post. Rush, and others, kept saying that abortion would do that. And I’ll repeat my reaction at the time, an eye-roll. Well my eyes are no longer rolling. I’m embarrassed at how wrong I was back then, and sad at how right Rush & others were. And Gayle King’s responses show the utter hypocrisy of the Left.

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I've always thought allowing teachers to carry, after going through training, was a good idea. But if someone gets it in their sick mind to do something like this, it would be almost impossible to stop. I think armed teachers could at least minimize damage. Also have specific gates that have to be accessed to enter a campus like a refinery, with campus LE if possible. I understand this would make drop off and pickup more difficult and would take some logistic problem solving but lots of traffic is managed through plant gates. I also understand this would be very costly to implement and maintain. Just throwing it out there.

We could go back to Cain and Abel. All he needed was a rock. Hate has been around a long time. The break down of the family is the root of most of this country’s problems. The unconditional love of Jesus Christ in an individual’s heart can solve this country’s problems. Always enjoy reading your insight on these type of matters tvc. Your experience and knowledge is appreciated.

That was the point I was trying to make in my post you responded to regarding responding to a threat made on Facebook. Unless the individual did it well in advance, I would think in many instances he would beat LE to the punch.

Here’s an interesting take.

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This story hurt me to hear about. I teach at an elementary, and the idea of what those kids went through makes me sick to my stomach. I’m staunchly pro-2A, but also want our kids to be safe in a place where they absolutely should be safe always. So many of our students go to school and get to feel safe from domestic violence and abuse that they have to live with at home. They should never have to worry about violence following them there. I read through this whole thread, and there are a lot of things I agree with, some that I don’t. I wholeheartedly support arming (willing) teachers, and also finding a way to have an officer at every school. While it would not be a 100% preventative, it would greatly reduce the odds of someone choosing a school as a target, and if they still did, it would greatly reduce the odds that they pull off an effective attack. Secure doors would also help. There’s a video of this guy going into the school circulating online, and he literally just opened the door and walked in. Our school is very serious about keeping doors locked, but they’re all glass and would be easily breached. I would like to see that changed. While I don’t like to see a lot of gun legislation added, one law that I think would help to some degree is changing the laws to restrict the purchase of long guns, or at least long guns that can hold high capacity magazines to the age of 21. We already do this with handguns. If some of these kids get a few years to separate themselves from the angst, bullying, and hormone fueled stupidity of high school they might very well not make a decision to take innocent lives out of anger. It will also provide 3 extra years for them to possibly get some help. A lot of the symptoms of mental illness that families might hide or ignore will manifest when these kids graduate and have to start doing adult things, meaning others outside of the family might be able to do something. And yes, I understand that someone can do a lot of damage with a shotgun, but I’d rather a potential killer have to painstakingly hand load 5 shells every few seconds rather than dropping a mag and reloading 30 rounds almost instantaneously. One thing that nearly every school shooter has in common is that they’re under the age of 21. Which leads me to my next point: any parents who allow a child access to guns who then subsequently shoots up a school should be punished severely, especially if there were any warning signs whatsoever that the shooter had issues. My kids hunt with me, and as they get a little older I’ll teach them how to handle and shoot firearms. But all of my guns stay in a safe behind an oak door that they’ll never have a key to, minus my daily carry, which they also can’t get to. There’s no excuse for a parent to allow a kid access to firearms if they know they’re unstable, and I’ve yet to see one of these shootings perpetrated by someone who hadn’t exhibited obvious warning signs. Anyone who purchases a gun for a kid (an older friend, family member, etc.) should also have the book thrown at them if they use them in an attack. I do believe that kids who hunt should be allowed access to them, including high capacity rifles, but better laws on the books putting the responsibility of the kids’ action with those guns would likely help parents take an honest look at their kids’ mental states before letting them use them. As for social media monitoring, I agree it’s a slippery slope. I do believe if given that power then liberals would use any such law to disarm law abiding citizens. That said, if someone actually makes direct threats, by all means put them on a list and prevent them from buying guns. Anyone receiving psychiatric treatment and diagnosed with certain mental illnesses should not be allowed to purchase guns. I also wouldn’t be opposed to some sort of law punishing anyone who knows about a direct threat in advance that doesn’t come forward. It seems to be a pretty common theme that someone pops up after a shooting saying something like “he told me he was going to do it, but I didn’t actually think he was serious.” I sincerely hope that we can figure out something as a society to stop these shootings. Better mental health awareness, consequences for those who allow access to guns to mentally Ill people, and better school security is a great place to start. I’m thankful to work for a district that allows teachers to carry, but there are still things I would like to see done to make us even safer. There are nearly 140,000 schools in the US, and the idea that any law or policy can prevent something that occurs randomly at 1 or 2 of them every year or two is nonsensical. But we can certainly do more to help people with mental illness and prepare schools to better handle and possibly stop a shooting if and when they happen.

Many things are much larger than football…

Out of curiosity, do you have any experience shooting man size targets with a handgun under a severe time constraint, while under extreme stress and then at other targets that are moving?

Orange field up 3-1 in top of the 3rd

Saw that game as well. He couldn’t miss!

And those theoretical sprayed bullets would have gone where?

In all seriousness.. SP could be a lot better in athletics because of Port Arthur. However, their priorities are Academic UIL and One Act Play.. So that’s the type of transfer they attract. Which is fine.. but if PA were utilized better they really could be competitive.

That is what I was talking about. If they were in position to do so. Do you have any information that they were in position failed to stop him? I was chasing a felony suspect one time and he went over the fence of a fenced in school and broke into the school while I was chasing him. There were no kids there and he turned out not to be armed but we did not know that at the time. The guy was ahead of me however and running away. So, were these officers in position to stop the guy? Do we have any information that their training failed at them? If you want to see criticism, go behind the scenes in a shift meeting, a locker room, a secure police forum or on the back lot of the police station and watch officers criticize other officers. We aren’t exactly shy about calling them like we see them. We don’t always do it in public but we typically don’t defend what we think is stupidity.

I watched Angel in a game over at the HJ Marathon his senior year where he put on one best 3 point shooting performances I’ve ever seen. I think they were playing Nederland but I can’t remember for sure. He was just unconscious from deep. It was a lot of fun to watch

On the one hand, I completely agree with you that this is not a gun problem. The historical evidence of that is overwhelming. Gun ownership is at historic lows in the United States and, with a few exceptions, has been consistently declining for decades. Background checks have been required for every firearm purchase from a licensed dealer (i.e., easily 95% of gun purchases) since 1986. Similarly, the manufacture of automatic weapons for sale to civilians has been functionally banned since 1986. Schools have been "gun free zones" since 1990, a stark contrast to the 1950s, '60s and '70s when it was common to see rifles mounted on gun racks in school parking lots. The so-called (and poorly named) "assault weapons ban" was in place from 1994 to 2004. And yet, despite all of those factors which would seemingly suggest school shootings are less likely now than they were prior to 1986, the first school shooting occurred in this country in 1998, and they've been happening with increasing frequency ever since. Anyone who concludes that more frequent school shootings are a function of increased access to guns, or at least increased access to guns that are arguably more deadly on account of increased rate of fire and/or magazines with greater capacity, is ignoring the clear historical evidence, which totally contradicts that assertion. I'm with you on that point. On the other hand, I disagree with you about the possibility of reaching a compromise. Whatever the cause of America's school shooting problem may be - I have my own theories, which boil down to our ever-increasing social, moral and cultural degradation - I think the solution's simple: put a cop in every school in America, all day, every school day, from kindergarten through high school. There are 8,731 schools in Texas. There are 78,318 licensed peace officers. The entry-level highway trooper in Texas, after training and the probationary period, makes $59,715 per year, which can increase up to $88,966 per year after twenty years assuming no promotion to sergeant or higher. Take the midpoint of that range, $74,340.50 per year, add in payroll taxes and benefits and the median, total cost of employment is probably right around $95,000 per year for a Texas highway patrolman. Multiply that by 8,731 schools, and you get a total cost of $829.5M per year. Let's put that in perspective. As of right now, the Comptroller's office estimates that Texas will have a $12B surplus next session. The Texas Public Policy Foundation, which is the premier public policy think tank in Austin and employs a corps of extremely talented economists, estimates that the surplus will be closer to $15B. TPPF also believes that the state's rainy day fund will reach its cap and return up to an additional $10B to the general fund. In total, the Legislature may have as much as $25B in extra money burning a hole in its pocket when it meets in January. In other words, it can easily find that $1.66B (recall that Texas budgets on a biennial basis) to put a DPS trooper in every school in the state. And with over 78,000 licensed peace officers, I suspect there are quite a few municipal police officers and county sheriffs' deputies out there who would gladly take a raise to median trooper pay plus state benefits. Moreover, there's a strong argument many of the state's school districts have no reason to wait for action or funding from the Legislature. We've all seen the increase in property tax appraisals. As bad as they are in Southeast Texas, they're exponentially worse in the state's major cities, suburbs and exurbs. I've seen appraisals in Travis and Williamson Counties that doubled in the space of two years. Most of the state's urban and suburban school districts are rolling in cash right now, as are their county sheriffs' offices and municipal police departments. I get why the state's rural school districts may struggle to implement school security measures on their own, but the inner city districts and the burbs would have no problem finding the money to make this happen. There's already been legislation proposed along these lines. One of our local congressmen, Randy Weber, has a bill pending before Congress right now that would eliminate federal payroll and income taxes for retired peace officers returning to work to serve as armed security for schools. That alone would reduce the cost of employment significantly while also increasing the incentive for peace officers via significantly boosted take home pay. Plus, it brings retired peace officers back into play, increasing the state's supply of capable school resource officers. This is not a politically charged solution. This solution has nothing to do with the Second Amendment, gun rights or gun control. It requires no confiscations or weapons bans, only money and manpower. The lone drawback is the cost, and with a Legislature and dozens of local governments across the state flush with cash, that's not an issue right now like it has been in the past. The potential is there. The only question is whether the will to action is there, too. That would take a much longer post to address.

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I'm pro second amendment - I just cannot understand how easy it is to be a gun owner, that is what baffles me.

I don’t understand the bickering. Yes the left will use this, just as much as the right would have if this was a undocumented immigrant. We are not politicians we don’t get paid to push idiocy. So why do we do it? Like TVC said if someone really wants to pull this off they will gun or no gun armed teachers or not. forget political favoritism. These are kids we are talking about. And Our elected officials will shout out agenda driven talking points. We deserve better as a nation.

Obviously this was the act of one mentally deranged person.... The blame lies there. Having said all of that, gun owners need to be more responsible. I literally got all of mine out of the house when my boys were teenagers. We had a few instances that caused me just enough concern that I didn't want to live with myself if they did something stupid/harmful to themselves or anybody else. Keep them locked up. Don't sell a gun to anybody that you don't know. Buying a gun is a life-long commitment... If individual sellers did a better job of a)locking up their firearms and b)not selling them to people that they don't know, we'd all be in a better place. I predict that we're going to see where this kid had tons and tons of warning signs, but his family just ignored them. At least that's what it seems like in most of these cases. I was all for prosecuting the parents of that last kid (in florida, I think) that shot up his school after his "cool" parents gave him a gun. Or the guy that shot Dimebag after his mom got him a pistol to celebrate him doing a good job of taking his anti-psychotic meds. The second amendment isn't just a right... it's a responsibility.

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You can’t legislate the hate in an individual’s heart. It’s a heart problem, not a gun problem. There’s armed Air Marshals on flights, we need armed school teachers in our schools. Teachers should be given that freedom to arm themselves. If teachers don’t want arm themselves they should be given that freedom too.

He should have suffered too,1 fingernail at a time…he’s a disgusting mess that deserves some of what he dished!

This right here i could write a whole lot on this matter given what I see and deal with on a daily basis. A huge difference in my childhood vs the last 20-25 years of children. im sure you could as well given your experience. i know exactly how we have gotten to this point but I’m not going to express it here. it’s a terrible feeling to send my kids off to school just like those parents in uvalde knowing something like this could happen all because of some misled teenager……. prayers to all those involved.

Drudge contacted Cardinalbacker to get his approval on the sources used to write the article…. so it’s legit. Lol

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