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Y’all all keep losing sight of the big picture. They FINALLY have a “person of color” for a head coach. The rest is irrelevant.

Definitely did. We’re over here broke and y’all still can’t beat us.

Crosby- 1 bankruptcy BH- 0 bankruptcy y’all won’t that stat😂

Crosby leads the all time series with Barbers Hill 29-25-3. Not 12-4. 12-4 is only from 2007.

The success is undeniable. Less than 2 scores per game for our history and more shut outs than losses, but that defensive scheme had to go? Are we trying to continue the tradition or destroy it?

The problem in my opinion is that many or maybe most of these “fights” aren’t fights. That is a cop out and a convenient explanation. They are assaults, sex assaults, robberies, probably kidnappings, etc. Everybody knows and has said that fights at school have been around since there were schools. How many times did I hear at school, meet me at the bicycle rack after third period or what became popular for a time, let’s meet behind the church. That was across the street from the school and not on school property so we thought we were exempt from consequences. But the theme was the same. A couple of guys had a score to settle and they did, often not a spur of the moment burst of testosterone but a planned event with the aforementioned, meet me at…… Luring kids into a restroom for a robbery, having a pre planned beat down of a timid kid by a gang of bullies is not part of, “there have always been fights”. So yeah, covid might have played a part if it was just tempers flaring. I don’t buy it though. Kids were in school together for 9 years and being out of school for a year all of a sudden they don’t know how to act? Sometimes? Sure. But again, this isn’t tempers running high. If it is a result of covid, shouldn’t every school be suffering the same consequences? There are two major emotional or logical motivating factors in behavior. Those are incentives and consequences. Incentives. Why do some people go to college? Why do some people volunteer for overtime? Why do some people choose one profession over another? It is the personal desire to achieve money, status, a desired profession and so on. Most of the time it is a combination of the and other factors. Consequences. If it were not for laws, social status, etc, and if there were no consequences, would any of us act differently? If Texas retains the 5 speckled trout limit but then says, we will no longer all out game wardens to enforce that law, how many otherwise upstanding people would always stop at legal but unenforced limit? If the speed limits remained the same but the police were told to no longer in force them, how many people would speed or how high would they go? When you take away incentives to work, is there any shock that many people won’t work? When you take away consequences, is there any shock that bad behavior increases, sometimes dramatically? I believe that some people will always be bums. They existed long before any welfare system came into play. I believe that there will always be and has been criminals no matter how severe the law. But what are the percentages? We have probably all heard the 10-80-10 (15-70-15, 20-60-20, etc) management concept. It is like 10% of the people will always do the right thing, 10% will always do the wrong thing but the 80% in the middle will go which way they are led. Which way has our country (and the world ) been led on incentives and consequences?

6340 total points against 544 total games 11.65 avg 4.31 lowest (2016) 19.67 highest (2022) 1977 109 12.11 1978 93 9.30 1979 126 11.45 1980 108 10.80 1981 111 11.10 1982 101 10.10 1983 191 19.10 1984 125 12.50 1985 120 9.23 1986 135 9.00 1987 79 5.27 1988 149 9.93 1989 163 14.82 1990 132 12.00 1991 185 16.82 1992 113 11.30 1993 141 11.75 1994 166 15.09 1995 128 9.85 1996 217 18.08 1997 98 7.54 1998 82 7.45 1999 111 11.10 2000 131 8.19 2001 169 16.90 2002 137 13.70 2003 120 12.00 2004 151 15.10 2005 253 19.46 2006 104 8.67 2007 136 10.46 2008 91 8.27 2009 177 16.09 2010 141 12.82 2011 219 15.64 2012 80 5.71 2013 153 11.77 2014 222 13.88 2015 168 10.50 2016 69 4.31 2017 160 11.43 2018 217 15.50 2019 159 13.25 2020 77 8.56 2021 164 12.62 2022 59 19.67

Lol take some Pepto Bismol before the game... I hear it's soothing to the stomach and rectum area.

I might better hold off then man…. I already get nervous on game night ! I don’t need that on my stomach 😂😂

I agree. Coach Matthews has said in interviews that Vidor runs its system because they don’t have the personnel to run other systems. That’s foolishness. The spread, for example, was created for teams that aren’t as fast or big as their opponents. Vidor is not significantly different in terms of speed or body types or lack of actual athletes than PNG and Nederland. If PNG and Nederland can run modern offenses, so can Vidor. The worst part is Vidor isn’t even executing their Slot-T offense as well as they could. Liberty Hill runs a similar offense and is nearly unstoppable. They don’t appear to be bigger or faster than their opponents. They just run their system so well it’s hard for even more athletic teams to keep up (Crosby took all it had and then some to beat LH in 2020, and never actually stopped their offense). But are Vidor’s players less athletic, less intelligent, less willing to play than comparable school, less tough? No. Vidor’s problems are 100%, and have always been, a problem of teaching. Get coaches that believe in the players and don’t blame the players for the coach not knowing how to teach more balanced systems, and Vidor starts winning a lot more games a lot more consistently.

Best of luck PAM.

As I posted above, “I’ll believe it when I see it”. Here’s another article about CNN & Politico actually reporting the News instead of liberal garbage. I’m even more skeptical now. Why? They’ve claimed this but if you go to the Border the only News organization reporting about illegal immigrants there is FOX. We’re being invaded and it’s a concern to most Americans. You have Terrorist crossing. Many illegals are carrying fentanyl. Many have diseases the US hasn’t seen in years. Many are convicted murderers, child rapist, and every type of sexual deviant or lawbreaker you could name. So Politico, CNN, you want to walk the walk, get your collective rear ends to the border and video what’s going on down there. Otherwise, shut your pie-hole. [Hidden Content]

BTW, that should have read with maybe one LOSS if someone gets lucky. Should have proof read, hope this makes better sense.

Lol I’m hearing too much about this frito pie… I’m gonna have to check it out tomorrow night!!

Lol out of every stadium I've been to Coldspring has the best Frito pie hands down bar none.

Kivy radio who was going to broadcast the game reported a non-life threatening vehicle accident involving Normangee players.

Good luck to both teams.

Fixes implemented this week: !!: and !!score: are the same command and achieve the same outcome minutes/seconds are no longer needed and won't be posted to the game thread title nor the aggregated scoreboard Minutes/seconds, if posted, will be added to the post h or H can be used as halftime, f or F can be used to indicate final in place of the quarter !!:28/10/f and !!final:28/10 are the same command now

I’ve enjoyed talking to you fellas this week! I pray both teams come out of this healthy.. and most importantly learn something from this and carry it into district! GATA!!!

Nah, Denny is a quality coach, has been for a long time. Was happy for him and the kids.

I’m leaving for brazosport right now so I can get through Houston I left Mont Belvieu one time at 3 pm to go watch Silsbee Basketball at Cy Woods they were in a tournament and it took me almost 4 hours to get to the other side of Houston I’m leaving for Brazosport now I will enjoy some time down that way before game time.

Liberals exposed for the liars they really are, good job governors.

You talk about the ref as an excuse but I have been at basketball games where the former principal would tell a ref that they better call it for BH or they will never ref another game in BH. Just like last night at the freshman game, your superintendent had to get on the field in the back of the endzone and argue with the official trying to slow the game down cause he could see they were being out played and out worked, because he couldn’t handle himself. Tell me that’s not trying to abuse power.

Nobody was complaining when they won District last year. They would have went further in the playoffs also if there top 4 running backs were not hurt. I also believe they could run another offense but this scheme is what we’re running now so I’ll continue to support the coaches and team regardless of all the Ya Ya from all the bleacher coaches.

So I know a lot of people in this forum are going to blame a lot of things that are only peripherally relevant to the question your asking. The answer is a lot of schools have had a lot of fighting for a very long time. However, the number of fights seem to have drastically increased since the return to school post-pandemic. Students social emotional growth is lower than it was for students of the same age 3 years ago. Maturity levels are down, standards decreased, and a lot of that has to do with student not preforming well when they weren't physically in the buildings. They also solidified their friend groups more. Even at good schools we saw increases in fighting, and more important multiple/groups of people fighting. When you take 16 year old kids with hormones and they are social/emotionally underdeveloped you get negative outcomes. What we learned is just how much school matters for social/emotional development and just how little of that is occurring at home. There are ofc outliers some kids are as mature as they should be but they also tended to be the kids involved in a lot of activities that promote social/emotional growth. Team sports, clubs, honor societies, UIL academics, etc.

Ok, I'll bite. Vidor's problem have NOT always been a problem of teaching. In the 90's Vidor lined up against North Shore, WB, Central, both Baytowns...but I don't need to tell you that cause PNG was in the same boat. It was a no win situation lol. Somewhere between Mathews first few years as a HC till now he lost sight of his kids athletic ability. I know the talent is there to run another style of offense. Till it changes, I'll still support the all the Coaches and the kids.

Lol you will have to go to the restroom afterwards but trust me it's worth it.

Best of luck, BH.

They're being taught something... How to lose.

Funny how Biden regime's illegal border invasion by millions was ignored until a mere 50 were sent to a Democrat, rich, white, elitist snob town. Ron DeSantis is a genius

Vidor isn’t getting moved up.

There was only one freshman game and it was 51-0.

One example is Allen, they dont allow broadcasts at their home game so last year when Atascocita played there or when CE King played this year we could not do their game

Correct. TL isn't able to do every playoff game but they do have the rights and schools have to get permission from UIL and TL.

The game was done because TL has a contract with Silsbee. Vidor just happened to be the opponent. Game was supposed to be a home game for Silsbee. TL has done every Silsbee game so far this season.

Freshman game Jasper 22 Franklin 8 final

Lol. Yes I do enjoy a frito pie. I have met you and your father before. I respect how you are passionate about your team. Coldspring as a whole reminds me of Newton in so many ways.

I would be surprised if they couldn't with some of the stories those boys come up with. We were out there on Bolivar tattooing the redfish in the surf Saturday night and 14.4 links up with about a 40" bull. He landed him, took some pics and released him. He goes back to the cooler to get a shrimp comes back with is $300 Lews set up broken in half and told me the fish did it, smh.

I think PAM is going to roll all the way into the playoffs with maybe one win if someone gets locky and then they will take it right to the edge. Not so sure they can pull off state though. That is just my opinion, no particular skill set to base it on.

Ever notice how the UIL comes down like a ton of bricks on this tiny school, and tiny Alto? Then they can't see what goes on in 5A and even more so in 6A???

I agree

The water has to be drinkable. The kids know the game plan stinks and that's why they don't buy in. The kids know that the coaches don't believe in their athletic ability and that's why we are still sub .500 Slot-Ting it 23 years later.

Back in the “old days”, when one went down it was usually over. Today once someone goes down the other jumps on him/her and pounds & kicks. IMO, that’s where criminal charges should come into play. Based on what’s going on today, I’m so far out of touch with our society/laws. Criminals are instantly released. The victim will probably be sued if him/her defends himself. My world has been turned upside down. Common sense is no longer common.

I wouldn’t look to much into woodville game ,150 yard in penalties against Newton .. over half for chop block, then add in a bad snap on punt inside the 30. Newton came into game sluggish. perfect ingredients for failure. lost to a good woodville team by 1 point , from the 9 on 4th down , incomplete pass in the end zone with 10 seconds left in game.

It's irrelevent after 3 games... ive never seen a 3 game title run. Have you? The defense, as it stands, will not support a long playoff run. That's why we're asking question... and hoping changes are made. This is a message board, ya know. It's kind of what you do here.

And those members for the most part continued to type those updates. You want to spend three or four hours on here on friday nights updating and monitoring these simple posts that work pretty well? Or how about you go to the game you're interested in and update the score live for us? Because there are several folks who spend a good part of their friday evenings monitoring content, updating scores, changing titles to reflect finals, changing the big scoreboard, etc. etc. so that folks like yourself can log in, look at the one score you want to know about, make two posts criticizing the site, and then log out for a couple of days before you come back and do it again. This new system will take a little time to work out, but once it's up and running it will greatly reduce the manual work needed on the site, the vast majority of which is unpaid and done by folks volunteering their time to keep the site up and running.

Folks starting to see just how much Grad did here on Friday nights. You guys want to volunteer your time to update every thread and the scoreboard every Friday night, I imagine Jordan will be most welcome to the help. The new system has a few kinks to work out but this is a much better way.

who said they were an expert? when did this become a place where one cannot express an opinion, expert or not?

Every coach would go undefeated if they just listened to what we have to say on this board.