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Dang….I just realized there were Coaches jumping up an down on y’all’s logo staring y’all down on the sideline. No wonder Crosby is so undisciplined. What a bunch of classless coaches.

WO-S doesn't play Lumberton. Don't forget about Jasper. You sure you know WO-S football?

Tiger, the way the hiring process went down combined with the changes he's made has made many WOS faithful on edge. He could not control the hiring process, but he did know the culture at WOS. Again, with everything else going on, changing what made WOS, WOS was not the best idea IMO. By that, he's put himself in a precarious situation. I'll say this, too. I've stated my opinion about the changes, but in that I'm not saying I want him gone. I'm hoping he's big enough to recognize when he's made a mistake and adjust. Cornel did it with his offense after he took the helm in 2011. There's nothing wrong with trying something different. But keeping it just because it's what you want is when it becomes a problem. The measure of a true leader is not about getting it right every time. It's being able to admit when you are wrong and making the necessary adjustments to correct that mistake. Understanding that the program comes first and bigger than you are. This is a defining moment for him.

Silsbee ran the 50 while Hickman was there. Hickman played in the 50 at Silsbee. He knows it.

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PNG to hand FBM their first district loss in forever😃 welcome to SETX

I heard there is a new player on the LCM squad, this week.

Not to burst any Tiger Bubbles, but I wouldnt throw WOS under the bus just yet. LOL

Crosby players come out prior to game stomping & spitting on logo in middle of field until Coaches tell them it’s their own logo. 😂😂😂👽👽🤣👽👽😂😂😂

Man… that district is something… Even if Bellville gets the district championship we still get to play WOS, Silsbee, Jasper , or HF in the first round. I mention all 4 because I think they all have somewhat of a shot at finishing 1-4… My personal opinion thinks it will be Jasper or HF but you never know.

Good. PAM went down one. #wakeupcall

I think u have a situation where , you have to hire a new DC and def assistants. They want to coach a Defense they are familiar and comfortable with. Just happens that the current players are struggling with playing it, and if things continue to slide down hill, the kids will start to not buy in to the change. Regardless of this weeks outcome, things will probably get better as they play the weaker teams in the district. But if and a big (if) they loose to Silsbee, and HF, gonna be a tough go? Any other school it would work out in time, but the expectations at WOS are so high, that the stress level on all involved may be too much? But, dont be shocked if all this gloom and doom talk is nought, WOS wins out in district , and goes sev rounds in the playoffs. I would consider that a successful first year for Hickman . JMO

Wrong. Hickman started at Silsbee as an assistant, then became Defensive Co. After McGallion retired he put in for head coaching job at Silsbee but did not get it (Randy Smith got the job, still there). Then he was hired by Cornel to be an assistant at WO-S. Hickman has been at WO-S for over 6 years now.

In a way I think they have already become the norm. As WOSdrummer99 said, it is a classic battle between good and evil. The main problem today is that the evil has been made main stream. Now it seems fashionable to side with evil for political reasons. This isn’t about HS football though and it just happened to be the venue for this incident. Society is the problem. I have posted many times in several forums, when you lock down the schools, a person intent on evil will simply change his target or find another way to hit the same target.

That name alone should have you banned.

my friend it's crazy uh. there was a time the box score/stats were readily available. Now it seems almost impossible.

Bulldogs got this one for sure!

[Hidden Content] Dear Dr. Esper if your intent in writing this article was to scare us, it worked with me. Having a G’son in the Marines, I can verify a few points you wrote about. I’ve been a proponent of bringing back the draft - for virtually everyone. Maybe a one year stint right out of HS. No college exemptions. Very few exemptions of any kind. You ever notice how much more involved folks are if “they have skin in the game”? That’s one big point for bringing back the draft. Another would be discipline. Take off the kid gloves. Turn the DI’s loose as they used to be. I could go on but you get the idea.

Does he play the QB position by chance?

I bout lost it when he said coach hooks done rolled over in his wheelchair and cussed all the refs out… 😂😂

WOS is going to win District and make a run! I don't know if CT would have beaten PNG and Newton this year. Who knows! WOS has lost regular season games before, not just this year. They are still a good team.

12:00? Or 1:00. I think it's the same situation as the WOS game; if PNG really wants it, they will take it to FBM.

So you're saying Tatum definitely has a chance..............hmmmmmm........

[Hidden Content] seen this on Facebook 😂 thought it was too funny not to share

It is what it is… get better lol

I got it wrong then. I thought Hickman had gone back to Silsbee a couple years ago. Sorry about that. I look for Silsbee to get the win, and WOS will struggle against Lumberton and H-F. The others are wins. I don't see them going more than 2 deepin the playoffs IF they get into post season play.

Yes sir we have and I appreciate your willingness to admit this is a strange move. As a Mustang fan and knowing how other Mustang fans think, time is up. We don't lose to Silsbee (yes, I know we have, but that's the mentality). I'm saying that "tongue and cheek", but really... We DONT lose to Silsbee. I'll also say I appreciate your willingness to be objective about the situation since you're both Silsbee natives and not jumping to his defense (which I know is hard). Heck, I'm pulling for him. He needs to make adjustments so let's see what happens. But, it's kind of like my kids, sometimes. I'm always on their side, but sometimes they sure make things harder than they need to be.

I agree with this. They've got into a couple of alignments that look like an attempt at the 50. Makes me wonder if they just don't know how to coach it, but Hick has been there for 6 years as a defensive coach. How could he not know it?

You went political. I win!! Have a good day.

I agree with u 1000 percent!!

It was the other way around. Hiawatha Hickman (Hired) West Orange-Stark, Defensive Line Coach (6 seasons) Silsbee, Defensive Coordinator (10 seasons)

High school football games have been shot up in mass shootings forever? I kind of feel like even in the “old days” when we had three television channels, and they went off air at midnight, if several people would be shot at a high school football game, we would have heard about it.

Velvet shed is the first stage of rut. Not sure on timing up north but bucks down south have already shed their velvet. Bucks start going solo and seeing whose dominant. that is a lil odd this early on. Maybe he s ready to get the party started😁 the peak is usually beginning part of November.

The passing game will probably one of the best Diboll has seen in a long time. Harris has a good arm and seems to be smart with his decisions and throws. The run game is starting to catch up. Stats from Friday I believe were 250/250 run/pass yardage

Yeah I wish this game was later on the schedule but both teams should be ready to go by now.

He didn't play in the Liberty game but might be back next week

I agree... it's Not the kids. This is a team that returns alot of experience. That just lost to the eventual state champion in the region finals. And were expected to have the talent to make it to Dallas in December.

There is nothing here for the kids to do I remember back in the day we had a putt putt a movie theater a bowling alley now there is nothing

WOS will still win a whole bunch of games. They will still play several rounds deep in the playoffs. They still have quality athletes. Hell, the way the district has been bleeding students the last 2 decades, they could be 3A-D2 one day. They will always be competitive. But…. I don’t feel they will ever be the WOS they use to be. Not unless better decisions, and better hires are made. The further we get away from the DRH and CT era’s, and the impact they had on the program, the more they will decline. How to kill a program? Get rid of any and everyone that had to do with past success, and change the philosophies and schemes that created the success. Coach T was a tough, hard nosed, old school disciplinarian. He was the S&T coordinator. Take that away, and replace him with anyone, and it’s a downgrade. I don’t care what kind of college experience the guy comes from.

Great post!

If you are not familiar with this coach, a google search is an interesting read.

Everything will improve with diversity. The Superintendent is the first thing that needs to go.

You are right about the population moving away from Orange, even if they work here. They do not want their kids in WO schools. There is no diversity in the school, the athletics, the school board or the administration. West Orange has turned into another Wallace. First thing needs to happen is at least half the school board has to go. The superintendent has to go, and his lackey he brought in from Silsbee has to go. People need to show up on elections to the school board, to begin with. Let's get this done. Bring diversity back to West Orange and the whole community will profit.

I know quite a few people going to watch this game. Many has a good football team, it won't surprise me if they win.

Things like this have been happening forever. Access to news 24/7 makes it seem like the world is ending.

@BMTSoulja1 thoughts? 😁

I believe it holds more than that. It used to be listed at 9300. Now it is listed at 5953. I'm thinking capacity is probably around 7500.

If your having to ask for props then it’s probably not time yet

Finally vidor coaches will get a break for a week with the forum resident coaches

I had expected it to take longer to plunge the program into mediocrity, but maybe it is a fitting tribute. Hopefully people will finally realize just how singularly important Coach Thompson was to the program and the real ramifications of his absence.