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I have yet to see any reasonable explanation from anybody as to why misreading an address allows a person to threaten you with a firearm. As LR posted the article of a mistaken address and some guy thought that was justification to come out shooting. Where are y’all coming up with these nonsensical theories? This is not difficult. Tragic, yes, but not difficult. The police were called to a family disturbance. They walked across the street to the wrong house. They knocked on the door and announced police. Somebody inside the house heard the knocking and the man walked out without knowing anything, except that was a knock and immediately pointed gun at whoever was standing on his property. The (1) officers were not violating any law, (2) they had the same authority on stand your ground and (3) they had a reasonable belief that their lives were in danger. Can anyone point to where any of that is incorrect?

How do you retreat when a gun is brought up and pointing at you from 15 feet away? You are not going to outrun a bullet to confirm. I am not sure what is to be confirmed anyway. The police don’t usually put themselves in that situation. They are called by someone to be there. Under what legal situation should a person be able to point a gun at someone for knocking on a door? The claim of fear is nonsense. If fear was justification then a person could kill anyone and say the person scared me. “I heard a person walking on my porch and I was scared”. The law says a “reasonable belief” and reasonable will be judged by a jury. I don’t think that almost anyone would feel that a person turning around in your driveway or hearing a knock on your door gives a reasonable belief that you are about to be killed and need to resort to the use of or threat of deadly force. I suspect that if you changed the original story to a neighbor and not the police, people would have a different opinion.

No, a straw man is a false accusation that is easy to tear down. Facts are not a straw man. Emotions usually are. What you call stand your ground law has nothing to do with property. In fact, in this situation, the police have the same right of stand your ground. Being on your own property gives a person no authority to point guns at people, make threats, etc. Perhaps you should read the penal code.

It wasn’t you, it was Johnny in the post quoted. But it sounds like what I suspected, there wasn’t a ton of interest in the job and it came down to two people. The job was given to the only one who had head coaching experience AND the only one with GIRLS coaching experience. Hardly an out of left field hire if that’s the case. But your points are well taken and fair enough. We both want the same thing. The girls to have success and be guided by someone with character who will positively impact their lives. I believe that is KJ, you have your reservations and I’m not saying you are unreasonable to have them. But I truly believe you and others will be pleasantly surprised. I will say that I’ve posted more on the girls basketball board in this thread than I have the whole board since I’ve been a member! Go Lady Cougars!

Not uncommon for good programs to hire within.

I never said you acted any way at all. My point was that KJ has very little experience himself, and none of that coaching experience is positive. So with neither candidate having much experience, I don't care where the coach was hired from. What I do care about is what that particular group of girls has been through coaching wise in the last couple of years. Losing Girola, then the AD at the time was not even interested in finding a girls basketball coach for the next season. The kids didn't know who their coach would be until after school started. They had to virtually beg Coach Dobbins to come out of retirement for the season. There were 3 "finalists" for the job this time around. One removed his name because he said during his interview the team interviewing him seemed "uninterested" in listening to what he had to say. This particular candidate has quite a bit of experience, and somewhere around 100 wins as a head coach. Sounds like to me this decision was made prior to there being any interviews, and that's an issue.

Same. No chance they open this job up. Maybe because it's "required".. but someone from current staff gets this I bet.

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The only item in the Texas Penal Code that is listed as a deadly weapon is a firearm. Under that law, “anything” else can be a deadly weapon if it was “manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of inflicting death or serious bodily injury or anything that in the was manner of its use or intended use is capable of causing death or serious bodily injury“. So an item has to be specifically designed to inflict serious bodily injury or at the moment it was used, including in a threat, was intended to be used to inflict serious bodily injury. In the police academy we ask questions of the cadets like, if you go into Walmart and buy a Kershaw knife, was that knife manufactured with intent to kill people? The obvious answer should be no. CAN it be a dw? Sure it can. What about a machete with a 24” blade? Again the answer is no. It was designed to cut brush while in the woods, etc. How about a rag stuffed down a person’s throat while trying to kill the person? Was the rag’s intended use to cause death or serious bodily injury? Yes so a machete sitting on a table is not a dw but the rag is because the moment it was used or intended to be used, it became a dw. If a person pulls a knife and threatens to kill someone but never actually cuts the person, is the knife a dw at that point? Yes. In the manner of its intended use, the threat, it was capable of inflicting serious injury. Threatening a person is a class C assault or the equivalent of a traffic citation with no jail time possible and a $500 maximum fine. Threatening a person while holding/displaying the knife and it went from no jail time to a maximum of 20 years. There is no blade length under the definition of a deadly weapon. In fact, a couple of years ago, Texas changed the law that had restricted a knife carried in public to 5.5”….. if the person is at least 18 years old. A place such as a bar or school still has the restriction of the 5.5” blade but a person can now legally carry a sword in public.

And how many times in the course of a day do police knock on doors down the streets from crimes looking for witnesses? Watch an episode of the First 48. Dude gets popped at the gas station on the corner, or in the apartment complex, and the police mobilize and start knocking on doors. They might knock on 50-100 doors, and it might be 2AM. Surprisingly enough, none of them ever get shot.

Wow those can be painful!! Watch where you step!

None of that is the point here.. If a coach had a 6-51 career record and applied for the boys job, does he even get an interview? I'm certain in saying no, he wouldn't. If you're going to talk about a coach with limited experience, KJ has 2 years coaching the girls at Chilton, where his stepfather is the Sup. That's limited experience as well with none of that experience being successful. Connell has 1 year under his belt coaching these girls already. He's been around and helping them out while also being on the bench for the boys games. Yes, if things don't work out Buna can simply move on, but Connell will have almost certainly moved on by then. Why would he come back to a place that didn't hire him, but instead hired a coach who Buna knows nothing about with the exception of him being unsuccessful at his last coaching job?

I would imagine with the tens of thousands of callouts every day, there are probably hundreds of mistakes made like this, either by the officers or by the dispatchers, after all, neither are perfect. You never hear about it unless in a case like this, they guy responded like a maniac and came out pointing a pistol at the cops and gave them no choice. Folks show up at the wrong address all them time, this is not how to answer the door. I actually think there will be more to the story.

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Was supposed to be there in July for a basketball event. Got switched to Las Vegas. You can imagine how happy I was, for many reasons.

Wondering if anyone realizes (they didn’t when they were complaining about Tic on this site) that Price was the third most successful D1 basketball coach in Lamar’s history behind Tubbs and Foster. But don’t let facts get in the way of narratives.

They are playing us against each other.

The castle doctrine is a general legal concept and has no bearing in law. There is no mention in Texas law on castle doctrine. There is statutory law that says exactly what is illegal and in some (rare) cases, what is legal. The idea of the castle doctrine goes back to the early 1600s with Sir Edward Coke and late described in more details by William Pitt who said that a man may have a crappy home by the king may not enter. So the concept of castle doctrine from English common law is that the government cannot enter your home without being invited or a warrant. Somehow that has been expanded into the belief that there is an actual law that says castle doctrine and it covers you everywhere you walk. Walking on a public sidewalk is not your home. Your car is not your home unless it is like a motor home. In this particular incident, the police were not inside his home. Statutory or written/enacted law is what matters.

Dominion was only 1 of many ways we the people were lied to. Also only 1 of many ways the election was predetermined.

Anybody that pledges blind allegiance to a political party or public servant is a clown... kinda like when 95% of the black population votes Democrat. You and I might disagree philosophically, but at least you're doing some thinking. That's rare around here.

That’s it for me as well.

Much respect, but dude gotta be smarter than answering the door pointing a gun at armed cops. It's as simple as that for me.

They weren't beating on the door and they weren't pointing weapons at the guy, they were absolutely no threat until he came out of the house pointing a gun at them and gave them no choice.

Really? What if it was someone dressed up like a UPS guy, but planned to rob your home or just kill you cuz they were nuts? "What ifs", emotion and bias against "the man" don't have any room in this argument. The dude should've realized possible consequences in answering the door the way he did.

[Hidden Content] And another one. This guys comes out shooting and kills a woman in the car simply turning around. If she would have returned fire and killed the guy, it would have been justified, he would have given her no choice. I don't see the case with the police officers any differently, he gave them no other option.

So those of you in favor of charging the cops, y'all all agree that this shooting was justified, right? Homeowner shot teenager who went to the wrong house in Kansas City, lawyers say (msn.com)

Some people are so blinded by their hatred of police that it robs them of their common sense.

I am saying that the GPS doesn’t show the exact house or location in the map program. GPS can ping the nearest tower from a cell phone which is probably 98% of calls. I have seen many times a person call 911 but can’t give an exact location and the tower might show the call coming from about a five square block area. The officers didn’t kick a door, they knocked. If someone knocks on your door, do you open the door without looking outside with a gun in hand? What if the officer was just on patrol and saw an interior light on inside the homeowner’s car and wanted to have the person come out and see if the car had been broken into. I have done that on several occasions. I would hate to think if the homeowner opened the door with a pistol in his hand pointing toward me.

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