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Nederland isn't talking about the last 30-35 years. No offense, bulldogs, but that's obviously Indian territory. Scalp'em has a point. Team history plays a big part in sports. I suggest that you go back and read the posts. I believe it was texans who brought up the last 30 years, specifically, because we were talking about why the Beaumont Enterprise gives the Mid-County teams so much attention. I mentioned that it was for two basic reasons: 1. PN-G and Nederland are basically the only two teams to have consistently played in district 20-4A over the past few decades. 2. PN-G and Nederland have a history of winning. I then proceeded to cite facts to support this view. However, this does not negate the fact that it was someone else who brought this up and that the Beaumont Enterprise that is giving Mid-County all the attention.

That's because you're not counting the rest of the media.

Excellent response, DickVitale. I can see that you've learned to dodge a question from the best.

Cause they're winners, like V Pirate said. Not even close... ;D ;D Traditionally, the Mid-County teams have been top in this district. There's no arguing over that. I'm not saying that we're better than the rest of the teams in the district, we just have a history of coming out on top, and that tends to draw attention. In the last 30 years mid county teams have won this district 5 times, so traditionally they dont come in 1st, I will say this though PNG in the last 30 years yall have won yalls district more than dayton. Dayton only won that district twice. According to these, the Mid-County teams have held the district championship title 9 times in one 30-year period (1976-2006), with PN-G taking district 8 times and Nederland taking district once.

Cause they're winners, like V Pirate said. Not even close... ;D ;D Traditionally, the Mid-County teams have been top in this district. There's no arguing over that. I'm not saying that we're better than the rest of the teams in the district, we just have a history of coming out on top, and that tends to draw attention.

That would be one reason not to have one, they have no business looking at replays. Besides UIL rules state that you can only replay a play once during the game. It is not worth the money for what you get. Its just bells and whistles, no real value. Like i said, y'all can do what you want. Bells and whistles would be defined as "atmosphere" to me, and it makes the game that much better. Yours truly, The GOAT Bells and Whistles DON'T win you football games. Rather spend the $$$ on EDUCATING the kids than on a scoreboard. Besides.... I would rather have the atmosphere of the football game created by the home team scoring touchdown after touchdown. Life has been good in Bronco stadium as of lately, and no fancy scoreboard was needed. Perhaps not, but they do get you advertisements, which make the scoreboard a potentially profitable venture for the school district. PN-G's, for instance, is already bringing in about $70,000 and has the potential to bring in another $30,000 before it's all over with. That's two teacher salaries or extra money for the science, performing arts, athletics, and other extra-curricular budgets right there.

The "Robin Hood" money itself may not be used to build the new facilities, but it serves as a replacement for the locally-acquired money that the district was using to cover those expenditures, money that can be diverted elsewhere, such as bonds and upgrades.

It very well may be. We also have to consider the fact that District 20-4A is really our district, and what I mean by that is that PN-G and Nederland are the only two teams that have basically always been in this district. Nearly all of the other schools are relatively new to this district.

Cause they're winners, like V Pirate said.

100K WOULD BE JUST GREAT!!!!!!! That's fine with me, just trying lend a helping hand. The invite is still open though. I wanna see if the broncos are worth the hype. ;D [/quotebee] wish that would happen... we're worth every bit! Bronco, you sure you want that, this isn't pn-g or nederland. Don't make us light up our SCORBOARD on y'all!!!!!!!!! I'm sure .... are you? THIS ain't Sterling or Channelview. ;D Harrison sure has brought a lot of confidence to PAM..... is that you coach?? Nope, just a loyal fan that's ready for some football. Hey bandkid believe me well be ready in August. We'll see. It will be a good scrimage, though.

100K WOULD BE JUST GREAT!!!!!!! That's fine with me, just trying lend a helping hand. The invite is still open though. I wanna see if the broncos are worth the hype. ;D wish that would happen... we're worth every bit! Bronco, you sure you want that, this isn't pn-g or nederland. Don't make us light up our SCORBOARD on y'all!!!!!!!!! Now wait a minute here, The GOAT. PN-G might have a few surprises in store for Memorial at the scrimage this year. Coach Faircloth has brought things to a whole new level for our team, and he comes from one of the best 5A schools in the state. I'd be a little bit more careful with statements like that if I were you. But, then again, I may just be looking at things through "purple-tinted glasses."

Alot of the preliminary work done at our stadium and our schools was done based on donation from the local industry. We couldn't afford it because the state takes $18 Million away from us each year, so the industry paid for it with additional money (meaning more than they already give us through taxes). Many of the schools that you mentioned are beneficiaries of "Robin Hood," which is why they have such great facilities. Meanwhile, schools like PN-G get the short end of the stick.

KFDM COOP, if you don't mind, I need you to make sure that the humidity is gone by about August 3rd (start of band practice for PN-G). Yeah, that sounds good.

True, but most SETX school districts don't have the resources to keep up with districts like Cypress Fairbanks. The only ones I can think of that might even remotely be somewhere in the area would be Port Arthur, Port Neches-Groves, Beaumont, and Nederland. Cypress Fairbanks and its neighboring districts have large constituencies with a lot of commercial and industrial revenue. Most of our districts don't have that, as well as most non-urban districts. Consequently, we progress at a slower rate and end up falling behind.

Will the band be playing the new "much slower" version of Cherokee or the old one???? To answer your question, the current, slow version of Cherokee is technically the old one. The melody to Cherokee is part of a song called Caravan, and, originally, the melody was played very slowly. We took it and sped it up to make a fight song out of it, eventually adding words. Furthermore, and contrary to popular belief, the "slow" Cherokee has been played at least since the 1990's, and I've got video evidence from the 1999 Brazosport playoff game to prove it. The fast Cherokee of the 1970's is the one many people associate with PN-G's fight song, and one I hope to see returned fairly soon. Honestly, I believe it will be brought back with the changes going on at the Reservation, and I don't just mean the ones on the football field. This district is making a u-turn across the board. I don't mean to sound arrogant, but I believe that we're on our way back to the top, and, accordingly, I think the fight song is going to speed up as the pride really comes back to its pinnacle. I vaguely remember my dad listening to Cherokee back in the 60's. I was thinking it was popularized back in the 40's by a Big Band group. I found this : [Hidden Content] Check out the sample clips from the song under the Listen and Compare section. Pretty cool. Thanks, but I've already heard it. In fact, I've played it. Caravan was part of our marching show this year. That's how I knew all this. Mr. Wells and Ms. Beckcom (our band directors) gave us a little history lesson before we started working on the actual show.

They've been removed. A retention pond will replace them at the old location, and new tennis courts are to be built somewhere nearby, although I'm not sure exactly where.

Will the band be playing the new "much slower" version of Cherokee or the old one???? To answer your question, the current, slow version of Cherokee is technically the old one. The melody to Cherokee is part of a song called Caravan, and, originally, the melody was played very slowly. We took it and sped it up to make a fight song out of it, eventually adding words. Furthermore, and contrary to popular belief, the "slow" Cherokee has been played at least since the 1990's, and I've got video evidence from the 1999 Brazosport playoff game to prove it. The fast Cherokee of the 1970's is the one many people associate with PN-G's fight song, and one I hope to see returned fairly soon. Honestly, I believe it will be brought back with the changes going on at the Reservation, and I don't just mean the ones on the football field. This district is making a u-turn across the board. I don't mean to sound arrogant, but I believe that we're on our way back to the top, and, accordingly, I think the fight song is going to speed up as the pride really comes back to its pinnacle.

A candle scent? And where might one procure such a candle? And wouldn't that smell bad? I'm not sure that "monkey farts" is a scent I would want to burn in my home.

Please, share your meaning with us.

Yeah, Tinkerbell and Wendy. LOL.. how much are they getting paid to be "witnesses" and have they had sufficient time to rehearse their story without getting it fouled up???? That can work on both sides you know! Keyword: CAN but have you seen where LPD is bringing witnesses in who saw the officers NOT beating him??...so yeah...kinda irrelevant. If the evidence shows the LPD were not involved in anything illegal, then I can accept this ruling. But we all know there are some bad apples running around disguised as lawmen and there is nothing wrong with checks and balances. Correct. There is absolutely nothing wrong with checks and balances or asking questions in order to gain a better perspective and find the truth. However, there is something wrong with calling in a hate group, accusing men of crimes in the absence of fact, and then accusing the same men of more, absurd crimes in the absence of facts when the actual, proven facts don't look good for your case. That's what's going on here. I won't speak to the mother's motives; I have no way of knowing what her motives are. Honestly, I think she's desperate to vindicate her son because, after all, he's still her son, but I have no way of knowing that for sure. However, if that is the case, maternal instinct does not justify unreasonable actions, and these actions are most certainly unreasonable. I give my condolences to Mrs. LaDay on her loss, but I can not condone her actions. They are the epitome of blantant, unjustifiable overreactions.

If you really understand which side of the political spectrum you're on so well, then why did you make the following statement? Yea, it was Bushes fault. Funny how Obama is changing his mind on a lot of security issues...... acting a little like Bush. Bush was not as dumb as the left plays him. For a dumb guy, he sure got a lot of things done. Correction: played him. They can't play President Bush for dumb when President Obama starts doing the same things President Bush did while in office. Oh, wait, they're liberals. They don't have to make sense. Nevermind, then. .. Oh and how correct you are about Bush not being dumb...he scarily smart. Left. Right. Left. Right. Someone doesn't agree with your views and you crown them liberals or lefties. Can you say shallow? You implied that you were mad about being called liberal. I said that this is what we can infer that you are based on your posts. You sarcastically said that you already understood that you were moderately liberal. If you understand this, then why are you mad about being called a liberal?

It is still undermined. I don't think that it's as much about an apology as a true, heartfelt, compassionate suggestion that IT WAS WRONG. I just keep getting...it was bad, but it was part of history; Africans sold slaves; our forefathers did the best they could; at least it's over now. Yet, somebody gets their boxers/briefs in a wad because someone states that they don't care about car bombs and children being killed overseas. It's just the lack of empathy for what happened...the nonchalantness. All I can say is you're definitely in the right place. Give me a break......it was over a 100 years ago. There WERE white slaves.......I'm not blaming anyone or asking anyone for an apology. I was upset about the car bomb because it was in the last few days..... Find something else to be mad about......... You make Little sense. We all say its bad and we disagree.......yet we don't have a true, heartfelt, compassionate apology for you......and that's OUR fault?? : : LMAO! Sorry, but I don't need your apology. I have not said that there were not white slaves, in fact, I have stated before that my family was probably indentured. I thought that I just wrote that I don't think that it is as much a matter of apologizing as it understanding and empathizing with the fact that it just should not have been allowed to go on and that it was a horrific part of our history. It's easy for us to say because we weren't enslaved because I guarantee if we would have been...we might be a wee-bit more understanding. We don't have to agree with everything each other says, but I had at least hoped that everyone could respect the other. I've always taught my boys the same things because one of the biggest problems I see with people today is the lack or respect we have towards one another. Just because someone has a differing opinion with me or because they might affiliate themselves with someone that I choose not to, I do respect them for their opinion because we are supposed to. I am not going to suggest that you are any of the things that I seen flung on here. To whoever locked the other thread...you were certainly on top of what you are supposed to be doing. Thanks for acting on it so quickly. Keeping it respectable, huh? I'm sorry, but I don't see the reasoning behind being empathetic to someone for something that my great, great, great grandfather might have done to his great, great, great grandfather or for something that one of my buddy's great, great, great grandfathers might have done to one of his buddy's great, great, great grandfather. Slavery was a terrible, terrible thing and I believe that we should have respect for the cultures of others, but in no way am I responsible for the actions of one of my distant ancestors. I had no part in those actions and, therefore, I have no reason to be empathetic to one of the descendants of a victim of those actions. It's not my fault. I didn't do it. In addition to that, the descendant of the victim wasn't a victim. He's a descendant. To imply that I owe him something for the crimes my ancestor might have committed against his ancestor is similar to implying that I should expect compensation from the germans, italians, koreans, vietnamese, british, spanish, mexicans, and japanese for crimes that some of their ancestors might have committed against some of my ancestors. It's one of those "sins of the father" ordeals, and, I'm sorry, but, last time I checked, we'd moved beyond that particular point in history.

At this point, hypothetical questions are too late. We don't know what LaDay's intentions or reasons were, but the fact is that this man played a part in his own death. He is moreso responsible for his death than anyone else. The Lumberton police officers' part in this was unintentional. They didn't mean to kill LaDay; they were using reasonable force given the circumstances. Although LaDay's death, in part, was caused by their actions, they can't be blamed for this. They had no intention to kill LaDay and had no way of knowing that he was high on PCP. LaDay essentially killed himself when he got high on PCP and took off driving. It's noone's fault but his. Does that make his life expendable? No. But he did it to himself. We didn't do it to him, LPD didn't do it to him, society didn't do it to him, LaDay did it to LaDay. It's horrible, and, moreso for the family's sake than LaDay's, I wish it didn't have to be that way, but we're just going to have to live with the fact that he basically killed himself. Moral of the Story: Don't do drugs and you won't have these problems.

Yea, it was Bushes fault. Funny how Obama is changing his mind on a lot of security issues...... acting a little like Bush. Bush was not as dumb as the left plays him. For a dumb guy, he sure got a lot of things done. Correction: played him. They can't play President Bush for dumb when President Obama starts doing the same things President Bush did while in office. Oh, wait, they're liberals. They don't have to make sense. Nevermind, then. .. Oh and how correct you are about Bush not being dumb...he scarily smart. Left. Right. Left. Right. Someone doesn't agree with your views and you crown them liberals or lefties. Can you say shallow? Not necessarily. "Liberal" and "Conservative" are words used to describe political connotations. I have a few liberal views, but, for the most part, my point of view is a moderately conservative one. Based on your posts, I can infer that your political connotation is moderately liberal. I don't think it's very farfetched to make either of those statements. I will not call President Bush dumb, just like I will not call President Obama or Nancy Pelosi dumb. That is blatantly desrespectful, regardless of political connotation. My statement was meant to be a joke, hence the at the end of the post. If you'd like to read more about these "jokes," you may want to use the Google search engine. I'll even supply you with an example: Yes, I can. In fact, I can say it in three different languages. Take note of the at the end.

I couldn't have made it any more simple than I did. At that time, the equation was something like this: No slavery = No Ratification = No Constitution = Weak, disorganized USA = Probable British Invasion = No USA Slavery = Ratification = Constitution = Strong, centralized USA capable of beating off British invaders (which we did in the War of 1812) It's as simple as that. Sure, it was morally wrong, but sometimes things don't go as well as we'd like them to. Occasionally, we have to make a few concessions on a few issues. In the end, slavery was abolished and it's still useless to argue a 220+ year-old decision. Ok, you said there were no white slaves, there were........now you bring up you dont need a history lesson. PNGkid is throwing facts as I do to support my statements. The history is history, it cannot be changed, BUT we can learn from it. In order to learn from it, you have to know it and understand it! About 40 messages ago I gave my spill on the things I thought Bush did well. I have to agree, Homeland security is one of the best things he's done. Although I did pose the question about if white people had been slaves...earlier than that, I posted that there were white people that were indentured. I believe there is a slight difference in the two. My eternal thanks to you and kid for "learning" me about slavery with all of your facts. Sadly, many facts have never been published in books, but as long as America was able to prosper and the select few were able to become profiteers at the expense and maltreatment/murder of others...hey, it's all good. I don't know what his legacy will be. Maybe that he rid the world of hussein, but at what expense? 9/11 was a test that no one could have truly been ready for. I think that we had no other choice than to go after binladen and it was the right thing to do, but I think that invading Iraq was not. I mean, in the history books, what will be said about why we invaded Iraq besides that hussein was responsible for some horrific atrocities. I just wish that he would have had the ability to either realize that he made a mistake (and not just with Iraq) and apologize for that particular decision. How about we knew he had WMDs, he had UN resolutions to answer to, he had to let our weapons inspectors see if he was indeed hiding anything (we know he was, what do you think he did, kissed those 250,000 Kurds to death?). Our inspectors were getting close and he ordered them at gun point to leave, which they did. Do you think he got rid of those weapons during that time? Hmmmmm. Sadaam Insane had scud (dud) missiles to deliver his explosives. I, to this day, don't know how we kept the Jews from all out attacking him. We kept them at bay by protecting them with our patriot anti-missile defense system. Some scuds still got through and did some damage and killed some people. Do you realize the magnitude of the situation, had he been able to hit the Jews with a WMD?????? Anyone here that doesn't think Sadaam Insane had WMDs is a fool. BTW, where were you when all of this was taking place....under a rock? One more thing. Americans did not execute Sadaam Insane. We turned him over to the Iraqis and they let him drop. I still love what the soldiers said to Insane when they found him....''Greeting from President Bush!" GREAT POST!!!!! I can't understand how some of you people let Bush and Cheney pull you off track to think Sadaam was the enemy? We had reason to believe that Sadam Hussein was hiding weapons of mass destruction within the borders of Iraq as early as 1998. This was a clear violation of the treaty Iraq signed with the United States and the United Nations after the first Gulf War. President Bush was taking care of an issue that President Clinton refused to take care of. I support our decision to go into Iraq; however, I do believe that this war has been handled badly. Much like in Vietnam, we let politics get involved in a war that didn't need politics. We should have kept the promises we made to the Iraqi people at the beginning of the war, and I truly believe that President Bush did his best to keep those promises (i.e. infrastructure upgrades, schools, hospitals, etc.), but it's not easy to run a war when you've got some prominent members of Congress that won't cooperate and keep calling in the media every time they have a score to settle. Ok, you said there were no white slaves, there were........now you bring up you dont need a history lesson. PNGkid is throwing facts as I do to support my statements. The history is history, it cannot be changed, BUT we can learn from it. In order to learn from it, you have to know it and understand it! About 40 messages ago I gave my spill on the things I thought Bush did well. I have to agree, Homeland security is one of the best things he's done. Although I did pose the question about if white people had been slaves...earlier than that, I posted that there were white people that were indentured. I believe there is a slight difference in the two. My eternal thanks to you and kid for "learning" me about slavery with all of your facts. Sadly, many facts have never been published in books, but as long as America was able to prosper and the select few were able to become profiteers at the expense and maltreatment/murder of others...hey, it's all good. I don't know what his legacy will be. Maybe that he rid the world of hussein, but at what expense? 9/11 was a test that no one could have truly been ready for. I think that we had no other choice than to go after binladen and it was the right thing to do, but I think that invading Iraq was not. I mean, in the history books, what will be said about why we invaded Iraq besides that hussein was responsible for some horrific atrocities. I just wish that he would have had the ability to either realize that he made a mistake (and not just with Iraq) and apologize for that particular decision. You truly believe that there's a 140 year-old conspiracy to cover up facts about slavery in our history books? Where's your evidence? Lumping all these agencies into one completed the communications that was missing before. Some say 9/11 could have been prevented if everyone would have communicated. It's not a perfect system, but better than we had. FEMA we could debate. Although, I agree it needs some tweaking, I think some people want FEMA to be a save all, do all, and I disagree. Local governments are in charge of disaster relief, then FEMA should step in afterwards. Agreed. DHS isn't perfect, but it increased efficiency, improved security, and played a pivotal role in keeping a post-9/11 America safe. Ok, you said there were no white slaves, there were........now you bring up you dont need a history lesson. PNGkid is throwing facts as I do to support my statements. The history is history, it cannot be changed, BUT we can learn from it. In order to learn from it, you have to know it and understand it! About 40 messages ago I gave my spill on the things I thought Bush did well. I have to agree, Homeland security is one of the best things he's done. Although I did pose the question about if white people had been slaves...earlier than that, I posted that there were white people that were indentured. I believe there is a slight difference in the two. My eternal thanks to you and kid for "learning" me about slavery with all of your facts. Sadly, many facts have never been published in books, but as long as America was able to prosper and the select few were able to become profiteers at the expense and maltreatment/murder of others...hey, it's all good. I don't know what his legacy will be. Maybe that he rid the world of hussein, but at what expense? 9/11 was a test that no one could have truly been ready for. I think that we had no other choice than to go after binladen and it was the right thing to do, but I think that invading Iraq was not. I mean, in the history books, what will be said about why we invaded Iraq besides that hussein was responsible for some horrific atrocities. I just wish that he would have had the ability to either realize that he made a mistake (and not just with Iraq) and apologize for that particular decision. How about we knew he had WMDs, he had UN resolutions to answer to, he had to let our weapons inspectors see if he was indeed hiding anything (we know he was, what do you think he did, kissed those 250,000 Kurds to death?). Our inspectors were getting close and he ordered them at gun point to leave, which they did. Do you think he got rid of those weapons during that time? Hmmmmm. Sadaam Insane had scud (dud) missiles to deliver his explosives. I, to this day, don't know how we kept the Jews from all out attacking him. We kept them at bay by protecting them with our patriot anti-missile defense system. Some scuds still got through and did some damage and killed some people. Do you realize the magnitude of the situation, had he been able to hit the Jews with a WMD?????? Anyone here that doesn't think Sadaam Insane had WMDs is a fool. BTW, where were you when all of this was taking place....under a rock? One more thing. Americans did not execute Sadaam Insane. We turned him over to the Iraqis and they let him drop. I still love what the soldiers said to Insane when they found him....''Greeting from President Bush!" And the bad part about that is the fact that the world would have screamed had Israel been attacked by Iraq and we had had a chance to stop it. It's kind of funny how that works.