PN-G bamatex

Complete Athlete is the best place to start, but I’ll check to see if the school is running any fundraisers. Welcome to the Indian Nation, CCRed. All Southeast Texas is welcome to join us for this fight.

There are seven members of the school board.

This was the best possible outcome for us, and I am very optimistic about PN-G's future. Let the fans of Nederland, Memorial, WO-S and so on say what they want about it. I think this will prove to be an outstanding selection in the future. And don't be surprised if you see a Dodge hanging around in Mid-County at some point next fall. 😎

One with West Houston ties. (And a close friend and mentor from Port Arthur.)

@Mr. Buddy Garrity I hope you’re still in the mailbox business, because I have a feeling business is about to be good.

I’d also add that Aledo very likely has a cheaper cost of living, even accounting for the much higher median income level.

Y’all have a really good crop of elected leadership up that way, too. In all my dealings with them, I’ve always been impressed with Phil King, Glenn Rogers (even though he technically moved back to the family ranch in Graham) and Kit Marshall.

Don’t jump to any conclusions either way.

I would just like to point out that PN-G packed the Dell Diamond for the state championship in baseball in 2017. Grapevine appeared visibly rattled by the size and rowdiness of the PN-G crowd. Attending that was one of my proudest moments as a PN-G Indian.

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That’s terrible. Hilarious, but terrible. You should be ashamed of yourself for what you did to those poor SoCal rich kids. [stifles chuckling]

I’ll say it one more time. Don’t put words in my mouth. Thanks for once again verifying why I should keep my expectations low when dealing with internet trolls, smitty.

And don’t forget, we were down 20-0 to Brenham at halftime. That game was played two days after a well known, well liked PN-G athlete passed away. The team’s heart wasn’t in it the first half, but they came out on fire in the second half and almost pulled off the upset anyway. I’ve often wondered what Faircloth said in that locker room during halftime to get them firing on all cylinders again. I have to imagine it was a helluva speech.

Where did I say Buchanan had nothing to do with it, smitty? Don’t put words in my mouth. Of course Buchanan had something to do with it. All the population growth in the world won’t help a football program if there isn’t a good coach in charge. But the quality of the coaching is just one part of a larger equation. Take the massive influx of talent entering Aledo over the last twenty years away, and Aledo wouldn’t be nearly as successful as it’s been, Buchanan or no Buchanan. Your extra examples aren’t helping your case. Celina grew more than 150% from 2010 to 2020. Celina’s median household income is even higher than Aledo’s. Stephenville hasn’t grown as quickly, but its population is still up roughly 50% since 2000. And where Stephenville, Carthage and Brownwood all differ from Aledo (and the Mid-County schools, for that matter) is that they’re all 4A-DI or below. Those classifications aren’t utterly dominated by fast growing, upscale suburban schools in the way that everything from 5A-DII up is. The disparity in talent, funding, resources, socioeconomic backgrounds and so on isn’t nearly as severe.

My expectations are never lower than when responding to trolls, but here goes. With respect to Aledo, the answer to your rhetorical question couldn't be more different than the one you provided. The City of Aledo more than doubled in size from 2010 to 2020. It grew by nearly 60% over the ten years prior to that, and by nearly 50% over the ten years prior to that. Aledo ISD's enrollment growth has been even faster than the city's population growth. Like the Austin suburbs, a lot of Aledo's biggest subdivision developments have cropped up outside city limits, where developers have elected to use a combination of MUDs and HOAs to establish basic services and governing structures instead of traditional, municipal options. Not to mention that the bulk of the population growth in and around Aledo has been comprised of young families; the median age in Aledo has dropped like a sinking stone. It also helps that Aledo's median household income is multiples of the state average. The community's growing like a weed because the Fort Worth suburbs keep lurching west, and the influx of talent couldn't be more clear on the field. Aledo's own local leadership will tell you their success on the gridiron is owed in large part to their explosive population growth.

I never said I think that. What I think is that even the best coaches go through cycles with their programs. Sometimes, they have a mediocre season or two. It happens. That's the nature of high school football. The key is being able to maximize the talent you have, and overcome the disadvantage through execution, fundamentals and discipline wherever possible. Your question to me was whether I thought Peevey's departure from West Brook had to do with a lack of upcoming talent. I gave a specific answer to that narrow question which accounted for a much broader range of potential motivators for that move, which I think were much more likely factors than lacking talent. BISD consistently produces a worthwhile crop of talent, and West Brook, in my opinion, is set to gain a larger share of that talent now that Ozen and Central have merged. There's little doubt that if Peevey had stayed at West Brook, he would have continued to have winning seasons at least most of the time, even if not in the immediate future. He would certainly be working with more talent than he has at LC-M. Whether Peevey would have done better than Langston in 2021 is a separate question. We'll never know the answer, but based on their respective records, I wouldn't bet against Peevey. I don't think there are many coaches out there who could turn LC-M around in his first season the way Peevey has. For that matter, I don't think there are many coaches out there who could have gotten West Brook to the state championship in 2018 the way Peevey did. Peevey has repeatedly shown he has the ability to make a successful high school program, amassing a 44-18 (.710) record in five seasons as a high school head coach that includes a playoff run every season, a district championship, and a quarterfinal appearance in addition to the state championship appearance. Even adding Langston's 48-37 (.565) record as a college head coach to his 14-25 (.359) record as a high school head coach, Langston's overall head coaching record is a break-even 62-62 (.500). It includes two FCS playoff appearances and one FBS bowl appearance in eight seasons at the college level, and no playoff appearances in four seasons at the high school level. Clearly, he has yet to produce any evidence of comparable ability to Peevey. PS: Your point about Langston 'technically' improving on Peevey's 2020 record at West Brook is, at best, debatable. Langston finished the 2021 season 5-5 at West Brook with no playoff berth. Peevey took West Brook to the playoffs in 2020 and lost, for a 5-6 record. Viewed in the light most favorable to Langston, his best season as a high school head coach tied Peevey's worst.

To answer your question, no, I don’t think Peevey’s departure from West Brook had anything to do with lacking talent coming up through the ranks. There’s plenty of talent and athleticism in the Beaumont schools. I think it had a lot more to do with the fact that Peevey was one of the lowest paid head coaches in 6A, and LC-M offered both more money and the AD title he didn’t have in BISD. Plus, LC-M was the right opening at the right time; as has been mentioned several times over, his wife is an LC-M grad, and Peevey’s an Orange County boy.

Quoting myself to make a correction. I had not realized Langston was head coach at Trinity High for three seasons. His overall high school head coaching record is 14-25, or .359. No record is better than that record.

Faircloth had been an assistant at Austin Westlake and Highland Park, and an OC at Odessa Permian. He’d been a part of multiple state championships at the first two, and his offenses had shattered multiple records on deep playoff runs at Permian. That experience paid off - it’s got a lot to do with why he went 11-1 in his very first season as a head coach. Langston doesn’t have any of that background, and has a 5-5 record in his first season as a high school head coach. And if we’re going to look at the big picture, Langston may very well be a nice guy, but he’s got a history of NCAA violations that cost him his college career.

I get where you're coming from here. I'm only commenting as the son of an LC-M grad from a large, long-time Orange family to say that Orange is only a ~30 minute drive from Port Neches. My dad's made the drive back to Orange from Port Neches and Groves for work for going on 41 years. My grandfather went the other way and made the drive to Port Neches from Orange for work for 35 years, famously only being late to work twice (once because the Rainbow Bridge was closed due to a wreck, and once because he agreed to give a work buddy a ride to work and that guy overslept, or at least so he claimed). If Peevey's wife wants to be close to home, Mid-County is close to home. If she wants to live down the street from her parents, that's a different issue. And that's all assuming, of course, that Peevey is even interested in the job to begin with, which we don't know.

This is a little off topic, but I wasn't aware Lumberton ISD had appointed a search committee with community representatives on it to conduct their last head coaching search. I don't think PN-G's ever done that, and I think that's a good idea for the AD job and the superintendent's job.

No idea how much Peevey is or isn’t interested, but of the rumored candidates, he’s by far the best option on paper.

Really both, but one will come with more backlash than the other. Leadership has got to understand, the voters are going to Google the new head coach’s last name. They’re going to find the win-loss records and the history, which will also find its way into every news media article about the hire. They’re going to see the rumors that have been circulating here and elsewhere for months, and people who have been slow to pass judgment are going to see that as confirmation that the rumors were true. And even if it’s a likable guy who’s cleaned up and rebuilt his career (I personally happen to like one of those two quite a bit as a man), it doesn’t make him the right guy to take over the PN-G program. In particular, college recruiting is a concern to a lot of people. PN-G wasn’t shelling out many Roschon Johnsons, Jaylen Garths, Blake Bosts or Adam Morses before Faircloth. We’ve had more success at that the last six years or so than we’d had in decades. Y’all know relationships are everything when it comes to college recruiting, and Faircloth’s relationships at the next level went a long way for some PN-G alumni who might not have gotten a second look without him. Moving forward, a lot of your major programs are going to have concerns about appearances when the relationship is with a guy who has a history of NCAA violations. I was in these threads telling people there would be tremendous political blowback over Faircloth’s ouster. Nobody in leadership listened. Now the school board’s in full bore damage control mode, calling around trying to get people to stop talking about it on Facebook because the outrage is multiples of what they thought they’d get and they need the conversation to die down. I hope they listen to my prognostications this time.

Very interesting note there about the THSCA website. Regarding the Indian Faithful, if the rumored name is the one the school board picks, I suspect they'll find the reaction to be as bad or worse than the reaction to Faircloth's departure. I have nothing against that coach, to be clear. Just saying public sentiment about this is nowhere near where your post suggests it is.

For the record, I like ProtonMail, too. Great email service. Very useful in Austin politics since it doesn’t track IP addresses and can’t be tied to individuals who wish to remain anonymous, or at least impossible to conclusively identify. The casual observer may not understand why that’s relevant to this thread, but it’s relevant to this thread.