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[quote name="Txdragon" post="1352866" timestamp="1355150228"] What I want to know is how is the Robin Hood law being administered. I see WOS sending several million dollars a year to Bridge City and WOS barely being able to afford anything. Then I see schools up in North Texas building college size stadiums. I see Friendswood with their own tractor trailor rig just to haul band instruments. The state of Texas needs to look anew at public school funding. Someone mentioned Jumbotrons, that is just to bring in better crowds, remember at most schools the football program is the primary revenue for the entire schools sports program. I can see a Jumbotron as an investment. I know WOS used to host at least one round of playoff football every now and then. Would field turf and a Jumbotron put them in the mix to make revenue again? Debatable I think. [/quote] The state establishes what it calls the "Equalized Wealth Level" based on a district's total taxable property value per student and uses that to determine how much funding it will cut from schools that are above the EWL range and how much extra it will hand to schools that are below the EWL range. Originally, the system literally required "rich" districts to transfer money to "poor" districts directly, but the state supreme court said that was bogus, so the state decided to keep the same formula but deduct the money it would have originally required the districts to forfeit from what they send to the districts rather than have the districts write the checks themselves. Originally, there were only 30 school districts above the EWL in the entire state. Today, there are more than 300 out of roughly a thousand. PN-G has been dealing with this problem for more than ten years (to the tune of $13+ Million a year - almost 30% our district's budget) because a hefty portion of our district is industrial and that drives our tax base up, and Nederland was added to the list of "rich" districts this year. It's total crap. I've been saying forever that the state would be much better off if they would tie funding to performance levels and then add some leeway for schools with low property values to that.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1353062" timestamp="1355172323"] ned, png, vidor, ozen. not in that order though  ;) [/quote] I don't know what order it will be in, but I think those are your four playoff teams. Only other possibility I see is Livingston replacing one of the four. As of now.... 8) ;D

[quote name="Richard Cranium" post="1352870" timestamp="1355150736"] What do the top programs in the state have that SETX are school don't? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ And willing tax payers!!!! When most of the population in this area live below the poverty level this is what you get. [/quote] [quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=107288.msg1352873#msg1352873 date=1355151189] Look at us at PNG. We cannot even raise enough $$ to build an indoor training facility. [/quote] You have to be fair about that. We just finished up a ~$120 Million bond that included a ~$9.5 Million total stadium overhaul and brand new facilities at the middle school level, and we're trying to build that indoor facility in the midst of a bad economy. If the recession hadn't happened, we probably wouldn't be having any problems coming up with the money.

[quote name="knows2much" post="1352851" timestamp="1355147165"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=107288.msg1352721#msg1352721 date=1355099106] I can't really speak to the other classifications, but in 4A (soon to be 5A, I guess), I think the problem in the playoffs has more to do with the discrepancy in enrollment numbers than it does the amount of money spent or the caliber of facilities. The range for the 4A classification is more than a thousand students. Sure, we have divisions in the playoffs, but even in DII, there's a huge discrepancy. PN-G played Manvel a few years ago in the regional semifinal. Manvel was almost a 5A school with about 2,000 students versus middle-of-the-pack PN-G with a little more than 1,400. I swear Manvel (which has since moved up a classification) had more kids suited out on the sidelines than most college programs I've seen, and that depth really showed in the second half. I'm sure the Nederland fans know what I'm talking about from the games against Dawson and Georgetown. Now when it comes to some of the other areas of competition such as band and academics, I guarantee the funding is what makes the difference. Friendswood and Dawson at one time had enough money to bring in the people who wrote the UIL tests to tutor their students regularly while PN-G and LC-M could barely scrounge up enough money to send their kids to a single workshop. Dawson used to have a Baby Grand piano that did an accompaniment with their halftime show and Friendswood had a little sound booth mounted on a cart where they would have soloists play and/or sing. [/quote] You're really not going to like what happening after this next realignment then. [/quote] I haven't liked what's happened with the last two or three realignments so I don't see why I'd like what's coming with this one.

I can't really speak to the other classifications, but in 4A (soon to be 5A, I guess), I think the problem in the playoffs has more to do with the discrepancy in enrollment numbers than it does the amount of money spent or the caliber of facilities. The range for the 4A classification is more than a thousand students. Sure, we have divisions in the playoffs, but even in DII, there's a huge discrepancy. PN-G played Manvel a few years ago in the regional semifinal. Manvel was almost a 5A school with about 2,000 students versus middle-of-the-pack PN-G with a little more than 1,400. I swear Manvel (which has since moved up a classification) had more kids suited out on the sidelines than most college programs I've seen, and that depth really showed in the second half. I'm sure the Nederland fans know what I'm talking about from the games against Dawson and Georgetown. Now when it comes to some of the other areas of competition such as band and academics, I guarantee the funding is what makes the difference. Friendswood and Dawson at one time had enough money to bring in the people who wrote the UIL tests to tutor their students regularly while PN-G and LC-M could barely scrounge up enough money to send their kids to a single workshop. Dawson used to have a Baby Grand piano that did an accompaniment with their halftime show and Friendswood had a little sound booth mounted on a cart where they would have soloists play and/or sing.

[quote name="dawgnut" post="1349916" timestamp="1354746224"] Some Indian project celibration person should get a boat load and help your cause since you guys didn't get any playoff games to sell shirts at, that is if you guys do such! [/quote] We do, but it's Project Graduation on our side of the tracks. I don't think our playoff shirt money goes toward it, though, so it may make no difference. However, I could be wrong. It's been two years since I've thought about it. ;D

Prayers on the way.

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="1346308" timestamp="1354342696"] [i]"As long as I've been coaching, this is the toughest one because [size=14pt]I think we're better than this team we played tonight[/size]," Wells said. "[size=14pt]I don't think the better team won.[/size]"[/i] What a piece of work! [/quote] The things I could say about some of these schools right now... :-X

[quote name="YankeeDawg" post="1346387" timestamp="1354345787"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=106942.msg1346358#msg1346358 date=1354344310] [quote author=PhatMack19 link=topic=106942.msg1346249#msg1346249 date=1354339587] A couple of Bulldog fans watching the game.  Andre is even sporting the black and gold.  ;D [/quote] Johnson was there. However, Schaub was not. Per his Twitter account: [quote] “@jvidrine_7: Can @MSchaub8 confirm he is at the Nederland vs. Dawson game #confirmtweet ??” Not there. Date night with the Mrs [/quote] [Hidden Content] [/quote] isn't that him to the right of Johnson? [img][Hidden Content]] [/quote] I thought so too, but Schaub himself says otherwise. I happened to be glancing over my Twitter feed when I saw that particular tweet.

[quote name="PhatMack19" post="1346249" timestamp="1354339587"] A couple of Bulldog fans watching the game.  Andre is even sporting the black and gold.  ;D [/quote] Johnson was there. However, Schaub was not. Per his Twitter account: [quote] “@jvidrine_7: Can @MSchaub8 confirm he is at the Nederland vs. Dawson game #confirmtweet ??” Not there. Date night with the Mrs [/quote] [Hidden Content]

Congratulations, Bulldogs. Thanks for teaching those over-funded, should-be-5A Houston schools that they can't just overlook Southeast Texas.

Good luck to the Bulldogs.

[quote name="tvc" post="1345237" timestamp="1354304721"] [quote author=foosballfan link=topic=106926.msg1345002#msg1345002 date=1354280333] this sign was put up for the Stratford game last week.......grow up they are high school kids! [/quote] You mean the parents aren't playing the games? Whew, I was worried that I would have to suit up when I got to Reliant. Now I can sit back and watch the game. Glad you pointed that out. [/quote] I hope the students aren't working as the trainers.... ;D

[quote name="bulldog1984" post="1344652" timestamp="1354223855"] Hopefully PNG will show up cause we always show up for them. thats why they had so many at astodome  when they played there in the playoffs... 8) [/quote] Man, I didn't know so many bulldogs owned purple shirts. ::)

[quote name="coach pops" post="1344402" timestamp="1354204866"] Thanks Bronx Rox. My wife aka The Warden hasn't been nearly as helpful :). She's a edumacator at PN-G. A Ned alum and ex Ned cheerleader. Something is up. She could be more supportive in my endeavors. [b]I suspect she's been turned.[/b] She gets home from work before me and I noticed that thousand yard stare and heard her humming Cherokee one day while she was chopping up a gumbo chicken with a hatchet looking thing. I found a chicken foot out back!! Hoodoo maybe? It's grievous. I suspect this may have something to do with my long drawers being backwards. I will adhere to wearing my long drawers as poll results dictate. I'm studying up on waterboarding. It may not be too late. [/quote] Turned? More like saved. ;) ;D

See? I knew a Dayton fan would be involved here somehow. ;D

[quote name="tvc" post="1343700" timestamp="1354071448"] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=106745.msg1343697#msg1343697 date=1354071307] Wow tvc you really got em talking now. lord knows what would happen if this gets started in mid county lmao. [/quote] Next I am going to say that the Dallas Cowboys are being bought by Donald Trump and moved to New York City and be the Football Yankees. [/quote] Donald Trump knows a bad investment when he sees one. That would never happen. ;D

[quote name="coach pops" post="1343671" timestamp="1354070218"] As unlikely as it sounds I'm from Nederland ;D [/quote] I know. That's my point. ;D

Am I the only one who would have expected a post like this to come from a Dayton fan? ;D

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1342990" timestamp="1353972238"] [quote author=indianforever link=topic=106789.msg1342989#msg1342989 date=1353971942] How do I fix it if I have an iPhone  :-[ [/quote] Sadly, IPhone users do not have this capability. [/quote] You tell me this three weeks after I get an iPhone.... ;D

In keeping with the theme of this thread, this will be my only post on this issue. An earlier post in this thread mentioned the importance of building a program. I could not agree with this more. A program - as in a system that begins before high school - is absolutely essential to perennial success at the high school level. In the past, this program has not always been in place in the PN-G community. Someone else posted a link to the pngindians.com page that details our success in the playoffs during PN-G's long and impressive history. It does not take much electronic maneuvering to see the all time game results at PN-G, and it does not take much reviewing to determine that our season records over the past two decades have hardly been anything remotely approaching consistently successful. This has been due in large part to the absence of such a program. In years when talent has been abundant at the Reservation, the Indians have done well and gone far. However, unlike Nederland (which, as much as it pains me to admit, is a model program), in years where the talent has been less than optimal, we have suffered - tremendously. Someone in this thread said that they would have never expected PN-G to have such a poor season. If I've counted correctly, Coach Burnett (and don't get me wrong, I have immense respect for the man and his family, and I've said that several times) had at least four seasons with three wins or less in fifteen seasons. There are several more seasons with five wins or less in the same time frame. One of the most important aspects of a consistent program is middle school coaching. Nobody at Nederland underestimates the importance of Jack Lynch and other coaches like him. Unfortunately, in PN-GISD, that quality of coaching was not always available at the lower levels. I'm not going to mention names or give details because these are issues that were buried seasons ago and don't need to be brought back up and aired out on a message board, but there were issues in our middle school programs that have since been corrected thanks to Coach Faircloth, and excellent personnel have been rotated into middle school coaching staffs that have increased in size since he took over our athletic department. And yes, for those wondering, I know what I'm talking about very well. "PN-G bandkid" wasn't always a band kid. But it's not just middle school. Youth leagues are also important to programs that look to create and maintain success. Anyone who believes this step has not been taken need only look at the PNGYFA and talk to the parents there to see the amazing amount of support and guidance this program has received from both Coach Faircloth and the rest of our coaching staff. Another issue that has been continuously raised about the Indians this year is Coach Faircloth's purported inability to adapt to his personnel on the field. Granted, the system he uses did not change much. However, that does not mean that no adjustments were made. I remind all of you that sophomore Kyle Walker was brought up from JV and given a chance as starting quarterback early in the season, but an injury unfortunately hampered his ability to play early in that game. He was later moved to cornerback - a supposedly unheard of defensive adjustment made by the head coach - and not only had success at that position, but even made a few interceptions. I would also remind you that by the end of the season, five sophomores and a freshman had been moved into starting positions to try and salvage something (experience for younger players) out of an already doomed season. I have said in a few posts that I would have liked to see a few adjustments myself. But at the end of the day, I'm a college kid sitting at a computer just like everyone else here. The coaches know their players, their abilities and their system better than anyone else. Coach Faircloth has been very successful elsewhere and even in light of this year, has been very successful at PN-G (his overall record is 28-18; that's a .609 winning average in four seasons, compared to a .590 winning average for Coach Burnett in fifteen seasons that included a state championship run). The problems that plagued this team this year were not due wholly or even in large part to coaching. It simply was not our year. The kids gave their best, and we should be proud of them for that. Our coach is still a very good coach that has earned our support in three very good seasons during which we placed no lower than second in district under his leadership. The future at PN-G is bright and this season is over. It's time to put it to rest and move on.

[quote name="thedogs1987" post="1336741" timestamp="1353291994"] Bama, I can honestly say "Thank You!"  I for sure didn't want to have to take it easy on you, too!!!!!! [/quote] Wait, you mean that you haven't been? You mean what you've been dishing out so far was actually the best you could do? Maybe I need to leave the site.... ;D

[quote name="thedogs1987" post="1336685" timestamp="1353289705"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=106475.msg1336410#msg1336410 date=1353271060] [quote author=thedogs1987 link=topic=106475.msg1336334#msg1336334 date=1353267014] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=106475.msg1336326#msg1336326 date=1353266770] [quote author=thedogs1987 link=topic=106475.msg1336320#msg1336320 date=1353266605] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=106475.msg1336310#msg1336310 date=1353266177] Continuing to support the Bulldogs..not all your fans are obnoxious..At the Game with Dayton...I got hugged in the bathroom and thanked for my support...because I am a "Indian Friend". [/quote] awww, it's because of that special "spirit".......let's all hug and sing in the bathroom, really????  Now, I know you are a girl.. :-* [/quote] It was never a secret :-* [/quote] NDN nation, will take it more easy on you, never picked up on it, sorry, my apologies......now, I know what takes so long in the ladies room, though :D [/quote] [b]Can't tell the difference between man and woman? Typical Nederland fan[/b]. ;D [/quote] Bama, if you're a girl :-*, I'm outta here. I have remained even though you might be a Bama fan and Png fan, but I have my standards....... [/quote] Well it looks like you're sticking around then. Like you even had to ask. ::)

[quote name="thedogs1987" post="1336334" timestamp="1353267014"] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=106475.msg1336326#msg1336326 date=1353266770] [quote author=thedogs1987 link=topic=106475.msg1336320#msg1336320 date=1353266605] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=106475.msg1336310#msg1336310 date=1353266177] Continuing to support the Bulldogs..not all your fans are obnoxious..At the Game with Dayton...I got hugged in the bathroom and thanked for my support...because I am a "Indian Friend". [/quote] awww, it's because of that special "spirit".......let's all hug and sing in the bathroom, really????  Now, I know you are a girl.. :-* [/quote] It was never a secret :-* [/quote] NDN nation, will take it more easy on you, never picked up on it, sorry, my apologies......now, I know what takes so long in the ladies room, though :D [/quote] Can't tell the difference between man and woman? Typical Nederland fan. ;D

I think it has more to do with this being 2012.... 8) Or it could just be that I need to straighten some things out when I fly back next week. ;D