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[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="1312299" timestamp="1351364349"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=105323.msg1312245#msg1312245 date=1351361405] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=105323.msg1312227#msg1312227 date=1351360474] [quote author=ram0524 link=topic=105323.msg1311946#msg1311946 date=1351350687] I'm a Nederland guy, but why is Vidor still not ranked? They are killing everybody right now. I know we beat Vidor, but you'd think that they would start to get a little more recognition for what they are doing. [/quote] Why would they be ranked?  Example: We have the same record they do, plus we have a history of being ranked, and were not.  Also, Summer Creek and Georgetown are both undefeated and have dominated their opponents, but they arn't ranked either.  That's just how it is.  If they have a problem with it, just continue winning it will sort itself out.  This isn't the BCS. [/quote] Brenham, Georgetown and Summer Creek are all ranked in the DCTF top 25. Although, for the record, I think SC should be ranked higher than they are, and that's one of the points I was making in my previous post. [/quote] That's a wishy washy poll.  I'm talking about the one most people, papers & radios go by.  The AP top ten. [/quote] I don't think Vidor and Brenham are deserving of a top ten ranking, but what's to say the teams we're talking about wouldn't be ranked if the AP did a full top 25? I tend to favor the DCTF poll just because it does list a full 25 teams, although I agree with the AP top 10 over the DCTF top 10 more often than not. I think Vidor should be in the DCTF top 25 at the very least.

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="1312227" timestamp="1351360474"] [quote author=ram0524 link=topic=105323.msg1311946#msg1311946 date=1351350687] I'm a Nederland guy, but why is Vidor still not ranked? They are killing everybody right now. I know we beat Vidor, but you'd think that they would start to get a little more recognition for what they are doing. [/quote] Why would they be ranked?  Example: We have the same record they do, plus we have a history of being ranked, and were not.  Also, Summer Creek and Georgetown are both undefeated and have dominated their opponents, but they arn't ranked either.  That's just how it is.  If they have a problem with it, just continue winning it will sort itself out.  This isn't the BCS. [/quote] Brenham, Georgetown and Summer Creek are all ranked in the DCTF top 25. Although, for the record, I think SC should be ranked higher than they are, and that's one of the points I was making in my previous post.

[quote name="badndn" post="1311998" timestamp="1351352696"] Summer Creek is undefeated and has beaten everyone by a margin of 40 points (avg 52 to 12) ouch. I would suspect they would be higher ranked than Vidor at this point, but both teams suffer from the same issue...They havent really beaten any good teams (SC beat Crosby which is probably there best win). [/quote] I'm going to agree with that to a certain extent. I think reputation also plays a part in those polls. Schools that have succeeded consistently over the years are expected to again and benefit from that in the polling. Schools that haven't (such as a new schools like SC or schools with little history like Vidor) just have to earn it the hard way. It's unfortunate, but it's the truth.

[quote name="FrodoNDN" post="1311327" timestamp="1351306356"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=105267.msg1311265#msg1311265 date=1351305683] [quote author=jmoore link=topic=105267.msg1311255#msg1311255 date=1351305502] [quote author=badndn link=topic=105267.msg1311246#msg1311246 date=1351305416] Burnett is available...You liked him so much why havent either Vidor or Ned come a callin? Facts are facts...Burnett teams went to the playoffs once every four seasons...BF teams have gone three outta four. I'll take the 3 outta 4 anyday. [/quote] Burnett also took PNG to the State Championship....how long has it been before & after? [/quote] If you knew anything about PNG in 1999 you would know that had more to do with the Longs than Burnett. Take those two seasons outta Burnetts record book at PNG and its sub .500! (Fact) [/quote]Gotta be honest here Badndn, Faircloth stepped into a perfect storm on the Reservation coming in. The talent he had was just coming in its own. That talent pool ended last year where we were one and done and I believe with that team last year we should have been at least three deep. I knew this team did not have the talent pool as well as most people in PNG, so I was not expecting much. But, I am sorry our defense has been bad for the last 4 years. I contribute it to poor training of the basics. It is evident on the field. The kids are talented enough to get to a kid in the back field they should wrap up and bring him down or hold on at least and get help. That has not happened. It is what it is. The Nederland game last week gave me hope because I saw that kind of tackling, but maybe it was just Midcounty madness. I am not pushing Burnett or have I ever mentioned him. I am talking about the current set of coaches. Fundementals are not being worked on as I see it. [/quote] Faircloth did step in to a surplus of talent... and Burnett went 3-6 with most of that talent the year before.

The only way you're only going to hear Cherokee twice is if you leave before the game starts. We hear it more than that on the radio.

[quote name="Nederland Dog 2006" post="1310481" timestamp="1351276921"] Angleton has already lost 1 or 2 games they shouldn't have lost, I believe. If we play Angleton again we will beat them. They were the better team when we played them in non-district, but if we match up with them again in the playoffs, we'll blow 'em out. [/quote] Nederland's a good team, but the best in all of 4A? When there are teams like Pearland Dawson, Aledo and Tyler John Tyler out there? I think Nederland's a good third round pick and maybe a fourth round team, and there's potential for a state championship run, but the odds are against them. There's a reason they play the games and I'll be rooting for the Bulldogs come playoff time, but I don't think it's realistically a state year.

[quote name="Nederland Dog 2006" post="1310461" timestamp="1351276134"] Nederland has a very good shot to make it to state. We have the best defense in the state, and probably the biggest front 4 in all the state of Texas. Our front four makes our linebackers and secondary better. We have a quarterback who is a three year starter so he's been there before, and we have a very good running game. Who's to say Nederland doesnt have a very good chance of making it to state? [b]I think we our the best team in the state in class 4A.[/b] [/quote] So what does that make Angleton? ;D

43-14 PN-G Freshman Purple over Vidor Freshman A, Final Freshman Purple improves to 8-0. Just got it confirmed.

[quote name="PNGFan" post="1309688" timestamp="1351208977"] PNG Freshman Purple 43 Vidor 14 [/quote] Take it that's final? [quote author=TradinUp BH link=topic=105212.msg1309684#msg1309684 date=1351208659] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=105212.msg1309683#msg1309683 date=1351208513] 36-14 PN-G Freshman Purple, 6:35 4th [/quote] That Freshman team at PNG is really good. [/quote] I got to see them play a good LC-M team and they couldn't have impressed me more.

36-14 PN-G Freshman Purple, 6:35 4th

14-8 PN-G Freshman Purple at Halftime

Post updates here. 32-14 PN-G Freshman White over Vidor Freshman B, Final 14-0 PN-G Freshman Purple over Vidor Freshman A, 9:19 2nd

[quote name="badndn" post="1309380" timestamp="1351183868"] NOT SO FAST! I think he was listing Brenham futures. Nederland will be very good through this Soph class. Seay will be a very good QB and they return Wash, Malveaux, Brown etc nxt year. I agree after soph class it gets a little dry (#44 on fresh team is a load). PNG freshman are very talented. Adam Morse is legit at QB. Giblin at LB and several good WRs (#4 and #15) including Cropper and some big aggressive linemen. Sophs include Walker, Peveto, Lane, Romero, Murdoch, Smith, Mayfield, Benoit, Halfin, Hughes and Sparks. Lots of good headsy football players that will make impacts next year. [/quote] I'm also hearing a lot of good things about our 8th graders this year. If all goes well, next year will be good, the year after that will be better and the year after that will be one to remember.

[quote name="rollinac" post="1308968" timestamp="1351126263"] Not a Texas fan but NOTHING sux worse than OU....well xcept Bama. [/quote] The only thing Texas has produced in the last four seasons that hasn't sucked is Colt McCoy. You're just mad because Alabama proved it. ;D

If I read it correctly, the numbers won't change a bit (although I think they should). So if the districts change at all, what are now 4A schools with enrollments that stay the same between now and then will only go into other districts with other schools that are currently 4A.

In Southeast Texas? West Orange-Stark (pretty good chances) Nederland (possible, but not likely) Memorial (slightly worse chance than Nederland) In the SETXSports coverage area? West Orange-Stark Newton Summer Creek Dayton Nederland Memorial

What ever happened to raideroldtimer?

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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1307088" timestamp="1350924526"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=105056.msg1307078#msg1307078 date=1350924269] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=105056.msg1307068#msg1307068 date=1350923905] [quote author=GCMPats link=topic=105056.msg1307044#msg1307044 date=1350923159] The UIL has approved a 6A classification for the 2014 alignment. Corbett Smith ‏@corbettsmithDMN 6A is here. UIL creates a sixth division, splitting Class 1A Division I and II. This goes in effect for 2014 alignment Retweeted by Texas HS Football [/quote] That is not all they approved. First, about the 6A. All it really does is change the name of each classification except for 1A DII. Starting in 2014, what we now know as 5A will be called 6A, 4A will be 5A, 3A will be 4A, 2A will be 3A, 1A DI will be 2A and 1A DII will be just 1A. Second, UIL did pass to add a 4th team to playoffs in all team sports in 3A and 2A starting next season. Also, UIL passed referendum for 3A supts. to vote on making the current 3A football districts to DI and DII districts like 2A and 1A. If passed by supts, this will start next season as well. UIL has voted to eliminate 1 tourney from basketball, baseball and softball. Starting next season a team can only play 2 tourneys and not 3. [/quote] You mean we finally get a 6A classification and it won't [b]fix the discrepancy in enrollment numbers and talent pools we've been dealing with in the 4A and 5A playoffs?[/b] Please tell me this is a back-door way of making a [b]real[/b] 6A classification over time. [/quote] That's what making DI and DII took care of. In order to do what you are asking, you would make 6A a mega classification with very few schools. Travel for district games would be terrible and completely ridiculous in some cases. [/quote] It didn't fix anything for us. In 2010, PN-G, a middle-of-the-pack 4A school, faced a "Division II" Manvel team that for all intensive purposes had 5A enrollment numbers. I can't tell you how many times we've competed with borderline 5A schools like Friendswood and Pearland Dawson with about 600 more kids, more talent and more money in UIL or band or whatever sport. Divisions haven't solved anything. And I realize a division is an entirely different concept at the 1A and 2A levels (and 3A after next year). But for them, they've often times been even worse. WOSgrad just brought up Deweyville and Anderson-Shiro. If you ask me, Katy has a lot more money to spend on travel costs than they do.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1307068" timestamp="1350923905"] [quote author=GCMPats link=topic=105056.msg1307044#msg1307044 date=1350923159] The UIL has approved a 6A classification for the 2014 alignment. Corbett Smith ‏@corbettsmithDMN 6A is here. UIL creates a sixth division, splitting Class 1A Division I and II. This goes in effect for 2014 alignment Retweeted by Texas HS Football [/quote] That is not all they approved. First, about the 6A. All it really does is change the name of each classification except for 1A DII. Starting in 2014, what we now know as 5A will be called 6A, 4A will be 5A, 3A will be 4A, 2A will be 3A, 1A DI will be 2A and 1A DII will be just 1A. Second, UIL did pass to add a 4th team to playoffs in all team sports in 3A and 2A starting next season. Also, UIL passed referendum for 3A supts. to vote on making the current 3A football districts to DI and DII districts like 2A and 1A. If passed by supts, this will start next season as well. UIL has voted to eliminate 1 tourney from basketball, baseball and softball. Starting next season a team can only play 2 tourneys and not 3. [/quote] You mean we finally get a 6A classification and it won't fix the discrepancy in enrollment numbers and talent pools we've been dealing with in the 4A and 5A playoffs? Please tell me this is a back-door way of making a [b]real[/b] 6A classification over time.

[quote name="NDNation" post="1306884" timestamp="1350914843"] [quote author=PirateGirl4ever link=topic=104988.msg1306879#msg1306879 date=1350914709] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=104988.msg1306842#msg1306842 date=1350912139] [quote author=PirateGirl4ever link=topic=104988.msg1306828#msg1306828 date=1350910264] Pirates by at least 40. Well Indians, look at the bright side, because it is our homecoming you guys get to watch a fabulous halftime show!! [/quote] Looking forward to that. Our show is really good this year to. [/quote] You should of been at our game Saturday, good god Centrals band played soooo loud it was deafening!! They were good though! [/quote] They did that to us to...lol..I was sitting by our band and could barely hear Cherokee. [/quote] I could hear the PN-G band loud and clear over the radio. I actually could barely hear Central's band, and I was kind of surprised by it.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1306451" timestamp="1350848226"] I hope Lumberton shocks the world. You guys have no onions.  ::) [/quote] At least we're still in the competition. ;)

LC-M

[quote name="prepballfan" post="1306237" timestamp="1350823320"] If my understandin is correct the record for a PNG Nederland is 16000 which brings me to wonder what a quaterfinal matchup between the two would bring fan wise [/quote] That's correct. Those were the days when they would allow overflow crowds on the track. Fire ordinances won't let them do that anymore.

[quote name="dustoff03" post="1306206" timestamp="1350798668"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104986.msg1306155#msg1306155 date=1350795692] [quote author=football04 link=topic=104986.msg1306064#msg1306064 date=1350789126] We in Mid-county should stop talking about leaving early and fan bases and appreciate the followings we have. Went to the Ozen - LCM game today and i'll bet there wasn't 400 people there from Ozen and just a few more for LCM, we're spoiled in Mid County with 2 great communities that love their football and support them as much as possible.  I was surprised to see so few fans for a 20-4a matchup with the playoffs on the line.  I would be surprised if there was more than 1000 total fans at this game and we ( midcounty ) play in front of packed houses on a regular basis, not everyone gets this kind of support. [/quote] This is exactly right. I know I tout PN-G's community support a lot (and I still think we're king in that department ;D), but in reality, it's not just us - it's really the entire area. The schools in Southeast Texas, from 1A through 5A, really enjoy more support and fan attendance than most schools anywhere. I can remember being at the DCTF classic in San Antonio and seeing 5A schools play that brought maybe a few hundred fans. Our opponent, Gregory-Portland, only had about a hundred miles to travel to get to the Alamodome, yet they might have had 300 fans in the stands at their peak compared to more than 6,500 that made the 350 mile drive to sit on the PN-G side. High schools here in Alabama have a similar problem. Friends who attended 6A schools in Birmingham with 2,000 or more students will bring up high school football from time to time, and they consider two hundred fans to be a good turnout. I start talking about regular season games like MCM or the Vidor game with 13,000 fans packed into Indian Stadium or 11,000 at Bulldog Stadium or 10,000 at Croak Field or playoff games with 39,000 fans at the Astrodome and their eyes get about as wide as dinner plates. They always thought King of the Hill and Friday Night Lights were exaggerations. There are 5A schools here in Tuscaloosa with stadiums that look about the size of Buna's, and they don't always fill them. We've got it lucky when it comes to high school football. [/quote] my sister in law lives in muskogee, ok. she was down last year for the vidor/angleton playoff game. i asked when the last time she went to a highschool game was and she said every game for the past two years because her daughters cheerlead for pee-wees and they let them on the field during the game. as asked if they had big crowds and she said 3-4 hundred and thinking that was alot. she was blown away at the packed house in Galena Park that night. she thought i was kidding when i said hundreds, we have thousands. [/quote] I was at that Vidor-Angleton game as well, and I remember expecting Angleton to have a pretty good showing. The Vidor crowd easily had 1,500 more fans than they did. The Vidor side was packed.