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[quote name="football04" post="1306064" timestamp="1350789126"] We in Mid-county should stop talking about leaving early and fan bases and appreciate the followings we have. Went to the Ozen - LCM game today and i'll bet there wasn't 400 people there from Ozen and just a few more for LCM, we're spoiled in Mid County with 2 great communities that love their football and support them as much as possible.  I was surprised to see so few fans for a 20-4a matchup with the playoffs on the line.  I would be surprised if there was more than 1000 total fans at this game and we ( midcounty ) play in front of packed houses on a regular basis, not everyone gets this kind of support. [/quote] This is exactly right. I know I tout PN-G's community support a lot (and I still think we're king in that department ;D), but in reality, it's not just us - it's really the entire area. The schools in Southeast Texas, from 1A through 5A, really enjoy more support and fan attendance than most schools anywhere. I can remember being at the DCTF classic in San Antonio and seeing 5A schools play that brought maybe a few hundred fans. Our opponent, Gregory-Portland, only had about a hundred miles to travel to get to the Alamodome, yet they might have had 300 fans in the stands at their peak compared to more than 6,500 that made the 350 mile drive to sit on the PN-G side. High schools here in Alabama have a similar problem. Friends who attended 6A schools in Birmingham with 2,000 or more students will bring up high school football from time to time, and they consider two hundred fans to be a good turnout. I start talking about regular season games like MCM or the Vidor game with 13,000 fans packed into Indian Stadium or 11,000 at Bulldog Stadium or 10,000 at Croak Field or playoff games with 39,000 fans at the Astrodome and their eyes get about as wide as dinner plates. They always thought King of the Hill and Friday Night Lights were exaggerations. There are 5A schools here in Tuscaloosa with stadiums that look about the size of Buna's, and they don't always fill them. We've got it lucky when it comes to high school football.

[quote name="Mr. Happy" post="1305811" timestamp="1350765402"] Fascinating.  Even when accepting that this just isn't your year, the arrogance and sense of superiority comes oozing through based on what could occur if you were only winning.  I guess the irony and duplicity of that totally escaped you.  I would agree with you on one point, this year wasn't very fun.  MCM is definitely better when both teams are competitive and relevant. [/quote] Not what could occur my friend, what has occurred. You may call that 'arrogance' or 'superiority,' but I call it being aware of what you've done and what you're capable of doing again.

[quote name="Mr. Happy" post="1305770" timestamp="1350762143"] It's less about any statements about fair weather fans and more about your constant chest beating and cheer leading about the superiority and relative beatification of your fan base.  Bottom line is your fans are fickle in the down years - just like every other school. [/quote] Right. ::) I was around in 1999 and I was around in 2008. I've seen the PN-G fanbase at its best and at its worst. I know firsthand - far better than some Nederland fan who sees us once a year from across the field and might catch a playoff game or two every now and then - exactly how many of our fans are fair-weather fans and exactly how many will stay there until the very end, whether it be a bitter one or a happy one. I've stated here repeatedly that we have plenty of fair-weather fans, just like every other team. I also know that we have many die-hard Indian fans as well who will show up win or lose. And when we are winning, we will put up totals - fair-weather and die-hard - very few schools can even hope to match. I know some (not all) Ned fans are desperate to find something they can hold over PN-G's head since there isn't much crow to dish out because so few PN-G fans were predicting a PN-G win to begin with, but I'm afraid this just isn't going to cut it. This is a point nobody from PN-G contends against - in fact, it's one that we agreed with days ago. I'm sorry you're not getting the rush you expected out of your win, but beating a dead horse won't help you any.

[quote name="Mr. Happy" post="1305737" timestamp="1350759745"] Bama Kid: After sifting through your 'War and Peace' like post, I have an answer to your question: You. [/quote] You know, somehow I knew someone devoid of reading comprehension was going to say that.... ::) Me? So where did I say we don't have fairweather fans? It looks to me like I've said it three times, and I both included one of those quotes and made that point again in that post.

[quote name="thedogs1987" post="1305718" timestamp="1350758702"] png bamakid....cmon, man, are you frustrated??????  really?  i couldn't even quote of all the "stuff" you wrote....its about high school football, doesn't Alabama have a game today?  Go watch that and take a break. The png visitors stands have been an "I"diotic design and i never understood why they didnt "I"mprove them when they spent millions on "I"mprovements at their stadium. It shows a lack of thought and planning (doesn't surprise me though).  For teams outside of our  area, kinda embarassing to have a "world class stadium" with 1/2 askk visitor stands.  No much to brag about when visiting fans are on lock down during a game.  Fire hazard, stupid, embarassing. And they were crying tears over the turf, I guess they needed to have something better for us to wipe our ......on. ;D ;D [/quote] Yes, Alabama has a game today. The Tennessee game (a rivlary known as the Third Saturday in October), and it's at 6. I would be watching LSU at A&M right now, but the cable's out and I'm waiting for someone to fix it. In any case, no, I am not frustrated. Hard to get frustrated over an internet site, and that post only took about ten minutes to write. I am a little tired of all the people trying to kick PN-G when it's down, but as I said, some people are desperate to find anything they can to attack PN-G with. Man, it's hard being popular. ;D You can pretty much thank Ike for the condition of the visitors' stands. The original plans for the stadium included their replacement. Unfortunately, as you know, Ike hit while the stadium was still under construction and construction was already underway at the middle schools and high school. Just as they have after every other hurricane, prices went up, and the district had to cut about a million dollars out of the stadium project to keep the other projects on track. The result was a smaller pressbox, less amenities on the home side and the same stands on the visitors' side.

[quote name="BigRed42" post="1305482" timestamp="1350737770"] [b]This was taken 45 minutes before kickoff[/b]. I got to my seat at 6:40 and the PNG band was walking around the track like they are doing in this photo. Plus, the teams are still on the field. When Nederland headed for the locker room there was still 25-30 minutes left before game time. Right after that they showed that video the student body and faculty made. That was pretty impressive! 8) [/quote] No it was not. The time on this picture on Facebook is 7:01 and I was in the PN-G band for four years. We never went in 45 minutes before kickoff. [quote author=Mr. Happy link=topic=104946.msg1305663#msg1305663 date=1350753568] Most fan bases will acknowledge that, but some on that side of Mid County believe they are above that happening at their school. [/quote] Oh, really? Point to the 'some' here. Find me one PN-G fan on this site who has not acknowledged that we have fairweather fans. While you're searching for the fountain of youth, here are a few gems: [quote author=PNG Proud link=topic=104946.msg1305387#msg1305387 date=1350708793] Were you surprised?  Not me.  I've complained about the "mass exodus" for decades. [/quote] [quote author=Cheermom4 link=topic=104664.msg1300057#msg1300057 date=1350181623] I am an NDN fan and have gone to many a game in the last 20 plus years and we never leave early. Now I am just one family. I do know there are tons of people who only go to games to be seen or to say they went to the game. We also have bandwagon fans just like every other school they jump on the band wagon when we are winning and tear down when they are having a bad year. I saw it last night at the game. The stands were no where near as full as they would have been if we were winning more games this rear. All I can say is that if you weren't at the game last night you missed a good show. I will continue to go to watch my NDNS weather they win or lose. I will cheer them on every Friday night. I can't wait for MCM it is normally the BEST game of the season. Good Luck NDNS. [/quote] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301415#msg1301415 date=1350338779] I agree with your statement; PN-G, just like every other fan base, is going to find out who's a fairweather fan and who's not during bad years. [/quote] We know, just as well as every other fan of every other team, high school or otherwise, out there, that our school has fairweather fans. [b]Everyone[/b] has them, and no PN-G fan will tell you any different. We also know that we are fortunate enough to have more truly loyal fans than most schools have fans at all. We have more season ticket holders than most schools have seats in their stadium. And we have more attendance records than some schools in this area have playoff games. The bottom line is that any way you try to present this, PN-G has been, is and always will be known for the fan base it brings that puts even many colleges to shame, and the fact that this subject keeps being brought up in thread after thread by [b]fans of other schools[/b] proves, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that this fact deeply, deeply bothers some people who I guess just don't have anything better to worry about. [quote author=FrodoNDN link=topic=104946.msg1305634#msg1305634 date=1350751178] I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the home side of NDN stadium holds aorund 6,000 and the visitor side holds around 4,000, somebody correct me if I am wrong here. [/quote] Not quite. The PN-G home side seats 8,000 fans (5,000 of which are season ticket holders). The visitors' side seats 5,000. [quote author=BigRed42 link=topic=104946.msg1305692#msg1305692 date=1350756577] [quote author=PURPLE 4EVER link=topic=104946.msg1305620#msg1305620 date=1350750288] PN-G visitor side is LARGER than Nederlands. [/quote] I'm sorry but there is no way PNG's visitor side is bigger than Nederland's visitor side. Nederland's is just slightly smaller than their home side [/quote] That's correct, but the difference isn't as large as you may think. As I said, PN-G's visitors' stands hold 5,000 fans. Both the home side and visitors' side in Nederland hold 5,500 fans.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1305431" timestamp="1350713511"] well now i have to ask was this even a sellout as was told to me at 3pm. were there tickets at the gate on either side pre-game?? If so then wow.  >:( [/quote] It was on our side (the picture below is one from a friend on Instagram). I would assume it was on the Nederland side as well; it normally is. [IMG][Hidden Content]]

[quote name="jake94" post="1305435" timestamp="1350713765"] I will say this though the Indians never quit tonight and the fans should be proud of their effort. [/quote] That much is most certainly true. Right down to the last turnover, those boys out there on that field fought with everything they had, and you can't ask for more than that.

Some posters will find anything they can to take shots at PN-G with. They will try and say our crowd isn't the biggest in the area, when they know it is and we have consistently produced the sheer volume of fans to prove it. They'll try and say we don't have as much pride as we used to or that our traditions aren't 'all that,' when our pride and tradition are what put our school on display in more prominent fashion than any other school in the state at the Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum in Austin just last year. They'll try and say our rivalry isn't as big as it once was, when in fact that rivalry is consistently ranked among the fiercest in the state by a number of statewide, sports-oriented organizations, Dave Campbell, Legacy Sports and this very site among them. I normally take such petty offenses for what they are - products of a deep, sub-conscious inferiority complex that develops when you are consistently out-numbered by PN-G fans on your own field every other year, when you realize you know Cherokee better than your own school's fight song, and when you realize that your own school has never and likely will never have the prominence or recognition that PN-G has enjoyed for quite some time - and choose not to indulge them, but rather just toss a few light-hearted jabs back and continue on the practice of 'smack talk' this board is so popular for. And so, on that note, it really doesn't surprise me when some fan of some other school again tries to knock PN-G with a picture taken late in the fourth quarter of a half-empty stadium nine hundred and ninety-nine out of every thousand schools couldn't fill to begin with, and it, too, doesn't surprise me that other fans of whatever school try and join in with 'walk the walk' and 'they're only there when they're winning' and all these other attempts at insults that reflect their ever-flowing originality, abundant creativity, level of intelligence and general wit. But setting such pleasantries aside for the moment in the interests of fairness, if any real discussion (emphasis on the word 'real') on this subject is to take place, then we must consider all the facts, and so, I offer into the record this picture of Nederland's crowd, [b]taken just before the game [u]by a Nederland graduate[/u][/b] and posted on Facebook: [IMG][Hidden Content]] At least we filled our (larger) stands at some point.

[quote name="dustoff03" post="1303781" timestamp="1350597392"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104851.msg1303779#msg1303779 date=1350597139] Port Neches and Groves wouldn't do anything... because both towns would be empty, because everybody would be in Dallas. ;D [/quote] i was waiting for this ;D [/quote] It's true. Back in 1999, there was a game my dad missed because he was at home sick, so we went without him. During the game, he left the house to get something to eat, and everywhere he went was closed. Sonic? Closed. Dairy Queen? Closed. Billy Joe's? Closed. Pizza Inn? Closed. The only other car he saw in Port Neches was a police car, and he had to drive to Nederland to find something that was open.

[quote name="Cheermom4" post="1304504" timestamp="1350675521"] [quote author=biaplayer link=topic=104788.msg1304148#msg1304148 date=1350650027] Well I had tickets to tonights game, I had put them in my glove compartment so I would have them. Put my truck in the shop at vins paint and body shop, and some sorry bastard stole them. I'm not a happy camper right now. If by chance I happen to get in the game, lord help them if they have the balls to sit in my seats. Someones gonna get an butt whippin.  >:( [/quote] Check your PM's I sent you a message. I was telling a friend of mine about what happened to your tickets and she told me to tell you that if tickets were your SEASON tickets to call the administration building (ticket office).  Let them know what happened and they should be able to either print you new tickets or at the very least write a note stating that they are your season tickets and that they were stolen and that should get you into the game.  Now if they are not your season tickets then there is nothing they can do. Good Luck and I hope this helps you out. [/quote] You know, I read this and think to myself that only at PN-G, for MCM of all games, will the school district track down someone who stole season tickets. And then I realize we literally have people who have season tickets because their parents willed their seats to them. ;D

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[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1304396" timestamp="1350667766"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104788.msg1304348#msg1304348 date=1350664185] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=104788.msg1304344#msg1304344 date=1350663933] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104788.msg1304342#msg1304342 date=1350663707] [quote author=biaplayer link=topic=104788.msg1304148#msg1304148 date=1350650027] Well I had tickets to tonights game, I had put them in my glove compartment so I would have them. Put my truck in the shop at vins paint and body shop, and some sorry bastard stole them. I'm not a happy camper right now. If by chance I happen to get in the game, lord help them if they have the balls to sit in my seats. Someones gonna get an butt whippin.  >:( [/quote] They're probably scalping them (no pun intended). If someone sits in your seats, it may not be the person who took them. Hope you find tickets. I understand your anger. I would be VERY upset as well. [/quote] Vins is in Nederland..those dirty dogs. [/quote] And people say this rivalry's dying out. ;D [/quote] It was dead according to the participation from the MC folk or should I say lack there of.  ;) [/quote] We'll see how much "participation" we get from the fans at tonight's game. ;)

[quote name="NDNation" post="1304344" timestamp="1350663933"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104788.msg1304342#msg1304342 date=1350663707] [quote author=biaplayer link=topic=104788.msg1304148#msg1304148 date=1350650027] Well I had tickets to tonights game, I had put them in my glove compartment so I would have them. Put my truck in the shop at vins paint and body shop, and some sorry bastard stole them. I'm not a happy camper right now. If by chance I happen to get in the game, lord help them if they have the balls to sit in my seats. Someones gonna get an butt whippin.  >:( [/quote] They're probably scalping them (no pun intended). If someone sits in your seats, it may not be the person who took them. Hope you find tickets. I understand your anger. I would be VERY upset as well. [/quote] Vins is in Nederland..those dirty dogs. [/quote] And people say this rivalry's dying out. ;D

[quote name="biaplayer" post="1304148" timestamp="1350650027"] Well I had tickets to tonights game, I had put them in my glove compartment so I would have them. Put my truck in the shop at vins paint and body shop, and some sorry bastard stole them. I'm not a happy camper right now. If by chance I happen to get in the game, lord help them if they have the balls to sit in my seats. Someones gonna get an butt whippin.  >:( [/quote] They're probably scalping them (no pun intended). If someone sits in your seats, it may not be the person who took them. Hope you find tickets. I understand your anger. I would be VERY upset as well.

[quote name="Cheermom4" post="1303995" timestamp="1350614202"] I know last year many yard signs were broken beyond repair. Those things are not cheap either, a couple hundred dollars at least. That to me is uncalled for. I work hard for the things I have but then I would have pulled my sign up the week before MCM. I wouldn't have taken a chance of something happening to it. [/quote] It's happened this year too. Just saw some pictures on Facebook. Coach Burnett talked about the efforts he and Coach Neumann made to talk things down a few years ago in an interview because things had gotten so out of hand. Things aren't as bad as they used to be, but I know I woke up to find a few things kicked over in the front yard back in high school. I also remember the vandalism that took place at the high school my freshman year the week after MCM because we beat them that year, and it made what happened to Vidor this year look like a first grade arts and crafts exhibit.

[quote name="NDNation" post="1303818" timestamp="1350602505"] I thought the Freshman Purple game was over..what Freshman game was the first one then? [/quote] The two freshman B teams. 39-14 at halftime. Ned scored on a kickoff return.

[quote name="NDOMAKONG" post="1303809" timestamp="1350601747"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104861.msg1303803#msg1303803 date=1350601021] 26-7 PN-G Freshman Purple Over Nederland Freshman A, 7:34 2nd Q Just got a text from a friend at the game. [/quote] 32-7 now [/quote] And now 39-7.... Does anyone know what the Ned freshman team's record is this year?

26-7 PN-G Freshman Purple Over Nederland Freshman A, 7:34 2nd Q Just got a text from a friend at the game.

Port Neches and Groves wouldn't do anything... because both towns would be empty, because everybody would be in Dallas. ;D

[quote name="NDNation" post="1303641" timestamp="1350586840"] [quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=104788.msg1303638#msg1303638 date=1350586553] [quote author=DOGS1988 link=topic=104788.msg1303628#msg1303628 date=1350586078] Look at what was highlighted in red Dustoff...point being, this thread is taking a pathetic direction when you got posters degrading an entire community...smh [/quote] my point being, it was one poster. that's why i said fire back at him. i haven't posted anything degrading to a community. [/quote]  Are you throwing rob to the wolves..lol [/quote] Not wolves. Bulldogs. ;D

[quote name="dustoff03" post="1303427" timestamp="1350569211"] anything else? where is bamakids creative post? [/quote] Been busy this week. I'll put something together if I have the time tomorrow.

Yes, thank you, and not just for the sports coverage. SETXSports (along with Facebook, Twitter and the PN-G site) has become a lifeline for getting information on what's going on back home and what people are thinking about it. Plus the smack talk gives you something to take your mind off of school when you need a five or ten minute break from homework. ;D

[quote name="dustoff03" post="1303189" timestamp="1350521799"] i totally expect it back. that's what makes it fun. and i'm having fun. but the point is, other school reps posted the same thing but all the smack is directed at vidor and most of it is non thread related. [/quote] I didn't realize ryker over there was from Vidor.... ;)

[quote name="dustoff03" post="1303180" timestamp="1350520985"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104788.msg1303178#msg1303178 date=1350520513] [quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=104788.msg1303169#msg1303169 date=1350519578] no, a vidor fan started a thread that was a carry over from a topic started at the preview last night by a non vidor fan. he just posted it. if you read the whole thread you'll see others reppin other schools making basically the same statement. "WHERE WERE THE MC FANS". it quickly turned into a mc-v-vidor thread because a vidor fan started the thread and from their it went way away from the topic. [/quote] Come on. robanadana is not stupid. Surely he knew when starting this thread that he was going to get some smack back from the Mid-County folks. That just comes with the territory. I don't think a lot of MC folks were able to be there. I know my father wanted to go but couldn't because he had to work late. [/quote] no he's not. he's a pot stirrir and he has admitted that. but he wasn't the only one calling out MCM fans yet vidor is recieving all the smack back. and honestly, you would think one person could have at least dropped in for a few minutes. i mean, he'll Branhamfan was there. [/quote] He may not have been the first to say something, but he was the first to put it in writing here. If the shoe were on the other foot, [b]everybody[/b] here knows that the Vidor fans would be all over a PN-G or Nederland fan for saying something about Vidor on here, whether it's legitimate or not. If you're going to start a thread with some smack, expect 'em to smack ya back. ;D