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[quote name="NDNation" post="1301942" timestamp="1350407894"] Last year Nederland went undefeated and went 3 rounds deep...while PN-G was knocked out in 1st round....yet you barely made it out of the Reservation with your 3 point win....You may have more talent this year...but we wont ever be out-coached. [/quote] That was also a game we led at halftime. It just goes to show that when it comes to Mid-County Madness, anything is possible.

[quote name="godawggo" post="1301850" timestamp="1350402468"] It is comical how Port Neches can dish it out but when they are having a not so good year they tend to wear their feeling on their shoulders. Seriously PN-G bamakid,biaplayer, CAL2TEX, etc. shake it off it will be ok and if you all promise to quit crying like little babies we may just pat your team on the back friday night for a good game! [/quote] ??? "Dish it out but can't take it" is a straw man's argument that says more about the guy making it than anyone else. Any jabs given or taken in this thread are meant in good fun. Relax.

[quote name="C O Wilson Bullpups" post="1301832" timestamp="1350400307"] We don't the pollution is comming from Port Arthur and Port Neches [/quote] Yeah, and so did Kelvin Smith and Troy Benjamin - arguably two of Nederland's best athletes across all sports in recent years. ;D

[quote name="ATX31" post="1301785" timestamp="1350396180"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301782#msg1301782 date=1350395947] [quote author=James Mosley link=topic=104664.msg1301778#msg1301778 date=1350395783] Coach just celebrated his birthday a few weeks ago. He turned 45 so looks like PNG is in for another 20 or so years of Nederland domination....Well he really did just have a birthday and PNG is in for years of domination maybe not the 20 mentioned but still years and years....lol [/quote] 45? Well, I guess if I lived in Nederland, I'd age quickly too. ;D [/quote] If you live in SETX that good ole refinery air really gets to you [/quote] But I thought Nederland didn't have refineries.... ;D

You know bulldogbacker, I've got to hand it to you. For the third time this week, you've really shown off that Nederland creativity. Your community must be so proud - you're like a bulldog smoking baby. ::)

[quote name="James Mosley" post="1301778" timestamp="1350395783"] Coach just celebrated his birthday a few weeks ago. He turned 45 so looks like PNG is in for another 20 or so years of Nederland domination....Well he really did just have a birthday and PNG is in for years of domination maybe not the 20 mentioned but still years and years....lol [/quote] 45? Well, I guess if I lived in Nederland, I'd age quickly too. ;D

[quote name="football04" post="1301685" timestamp="1350358766"] did last years png freshmen team came to bulldog stadium undefeated also? [/quote] Not sure.

[quote name="NDOMAKONG" post="1301684" timestamp="1350358471"] I think Smitty's infatuation and Neumann are the same age, or close, around 60ish. [/quote] And the OC? Barrow, is that his name?

[quote name="football04" post="1301678" timestamp="1350358128"] Are the png freshmen & JV teams undefeated? what are their records, not that it matters come thursday, just wondering. I think both games will be good. [/quote] The freshman team is. I thought the JV team lost to WO-S, but I could be wrong.

[quote name="NDOMAKONG" post="1301677" timestamp="1350358001"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301675#msg1301675 date=1350357696] [quote author=NDOMAKONG link=topic=104664.msg1301674#msg1301674 date=1350357655] Neumann don't have time for that kind of math, he's got game plans to put together and film to watch. [/quote] He sure had time for it 4 years ago when LaMarque came a callin'. ;D [/quote] I didn't say he was an idiot.  Plus, that really did him wrong didn't it.  Man the community kicked him to the curb for that one... seriously, the guy is a straight up winner, a straight shooter, and you don't stay in one place this long without being at the top of everything that makes a great AD.  Either way, when Neumann leaves, he's been grooming his replacement in my opinion, we won't skip a beat. [/quote] I never said Nederland mistreated him - y'all ponied up the money. But Neumann, in addition to being a winner, is a smart guy. I think he knows what his interests are, where they'll take him and when they'll take him there and none of us know when that's going to be. All I did was ask how old the guy is. As for who replaces him, I have no idea. How old is that DC smitty hates so much? ;D

[quote name="NDOMAKONG" post="1301674" timestamp="1350357655"] Neumann don't have time for that kind of math, he's got game plans to put together and film to watch. [/quote] He sure had time for it 4 years ago when LaMarque came a callin'. ;D

[quote name="football04" post="1301670" timestamp="1350357337"] I don't think Coach Neumann or Coach Faircloth coach for the money and if you are enjoying work why not keep working. [/quote] No, they didn't go into coaching for the money, just like teachers don't go into teaching for the money. But there does come a point where teachers start wondering if it's worth it to stick around, and a lot of the time pensions factor into that. I would imagine that's an even bigger decision for coaches; physically, that is the more demanding of the two jobs.

[quote name="Bulldog8" post="1301644" timestamp="1350355776"] [quote author=football04 link=topic=104733.msg1301630#msg1301630 date=1350355189] I started to chime in on this but I figured you had it 8. [/quote] I know... Ok, I guess I will say it, I have current freshman that was on that CO team that lives with me. [/quote] Well in that case, good luck to him on Thursday. 8)

[quote name="bigdog" post="1301646" timestamp="1350355904"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301628#msg1301628 date=1350355103] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301605#msg1301605 date=1350354362] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301557#msg1301557 date=1350351033] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301553#msg1301553 date=1350350550] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301481#msg1301481 date=1350346484] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301479#msg1301479 date=1350346282] I guess you have to have something to hold on to.  You might want to erase the last 15 years, at least as far Nederland goes. :) [/quote] I'm fine with y'all having those fifteen years. If we erase those, we erase some of our own best seasons (1999, 2003, 2007, 2009 and 2010 come to mind). Besides, it'll take at least 15 more for Nederland to catch up to us in MCM, and Neumann has to retire some time. ;D [/quote] You can always hope :) [/quote] How old is Neumann, anyways? He's got to be in the mid to late 50s. [/quote] Don't know, but  if he's like Hooks, he might coach into his 70s. [/quote] Depends. Once you get past the 40 year mark in Texas public education, it's costing you money to stay on payroll because of the way the retirement system is structured. If he sticks around, it'll solely be for the love of the game. [/quote] Not true.  They take your best three year average.  My mother has passed the 40 year mark and is still going strong. [/quote] Yes, and they give you 2.3% of that average for every year you work. But there comes a point where the retirement salary exceeds the active salary minus payroll taxes (it's either the 40 year mark or the 41). So in that sense, you actually take a pay raise by retiring, which conversely means you're losing money by not retiring after that point.

[quote name="dustoff03" post="1301637" timestamp="1350355313"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301628#msg1301628 date=1350355103] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301605#msg1301605 date=1350354362] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301557#msg1301557 date=1350351033] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301553#msg1301553 date=1350350550] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301481#msg1301481 date=1350346484] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301479#msg1301479 date=1350346282] I guess you have to have something to hold on to.  You might want to erase the last 15 years, at least as far Nederland goes. :) [/quote] I'm fine with y'all having those fifteen years. If we erase those, we erase some of our own best seasons (1999, 2003, 2007, 2009 and 2010 come to mind). Besides, it'll take at least 15 more for Nederland to catch up to us in MCM, and Neumann has to retire some time. ;D [/quote] You can always hope :) [/quote] How old is Neumann, anyways? He's got to be in the mid to late 50s. [/quote] Don't know, but  if he's like Hooks, he might coach into his 70s. [/quote] Depends. Once you get past the 40 year mark in Texas public education, it's costing you money to stay on payroll because of the way the retirement system is structured. If he sticks around, it'll solely be for the love of the game. [/quote] sounds like your hoping for a Nueman exit soon? ;D [/quote] Not really. The topic came up and I just wasn't sure how old he was. Like I said, if he sticks around, you know he really enjoys the job.

[quote name="BigRed42" post="1301602" timestamp="1350354296"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104723.msg1301491#msg1301491 date=1350347376] [quote author=Bulldog8 link=topic=104723.msg1301489#msg1301489 date=1350347196] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=104723.msg1301486#msg1301486 date=1350346767] [quote author=Bulldog8 link=topic=104723.msg1301467#msg1301467 date=1350345297] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=104723.msg1301095#msg1301095 date=1350318470] Nothing like smack talking with some facts...cant make me eat crow for that. ;D 1. They haven't had a shut-out against PN-G since 1988. (seen some predicting one this year---good luck with that...Ned has only shut PN-G out 10 times since 1925...on the other hand they have went home empty handed 21 times) 2. Their longest winning streak in MCM is 3 yrs. (just cant seem to get over that hump and make it 4 in a row.) 3. They let PN-G whip that butt 15 yrs in a row. 4. And last but not least...Nederland may have bragging rights for another year...but we have them overall. Nederland would have to beat us 15 yrs in a row to catch up with PN-Gs winning tradition. The series is 48 PN-G 33 Nederland  7 Tied  (5 years we didnt compete). [/quote] I love MCM... BUT one of your "joe Biden" facts are wrong... guess which one? Hint -Which suprises me if are truly PNG fan. [/quote] Sorry..miss counted..Nederland has only shut us out 9 times...I was at work and had to count fast. [/quote] Nope, try again... another hint, the 4 season the streak was broken [/quote] 1954 through 1957 - a period which included a state championship appearance and a state title for PN-G and a [b]state championship appearance for Nederland[/b], if I'm not mistaken. [/quote] Nederland won their state championship in '57, made it to the finals in '56 and lost 3-0. PNG got a trophy in '55, made it to the finals in '54 but lost. Both had similar paths in consecutive years from '54-'57. PNG also got another state championship in '53 before the era of domination by MCM teams, I guess you could include that '53 year along with the years from '54-'57. [/quote] I knew about '57, but I was thinking the other Nederland appearances were in '61 and '58 for some reason.

[quote name="bigdog" post="1301605" timestamp="1350354362"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301557#msg1301557 date=1350351033] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301553#msg1301553 date=1350350550] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301481#msg1301481 date=1350346484] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301479#msg1301479 date=1350346282] I guess you have to have something to hold on to.  You might want to erase the last 15 years, at least as far Nederland goes. :) [/quote] I'm fine with y'all having those fifteen years. If we erase those, we erase some of our own best seasons (1999, 2003, 2007, 2009 and 2010 come to mind). Besides, it'll take at least 15 more for Nederland to catch up to us in MCM, and Neumann has to retire some time. ;D [/quote] You can always hope :) [/quote] How old is Neumann, anyways? He's got to be in the mid to late 50s. [/quote] Don't know, but  if he's like Hooks, he might coach into his 70s. [/quote] Depends. Once you get past the 40 year mark in Texas public education, it's costing you money to stay on payroll because of the way the retirement system is structured. If he sticks around, it'll solely be for the love of the game.

[quote name="Bulldog8" post="1301601" timestamp="1350354273"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104733.msg1301582#msg1301582 date=1350353117] [quote author=Bulldog8 link=topic=104733.msg1301581#msg1301581 date=1350353046] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104733.msg1301564#msg1301564 date=1350352113] [quote author=Bulldog8 link=topic=104733.msg1301473#msg1301473 date=1350345645] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104733.msg1301318#msg1301318 date=1350332565] The freshman team is very good. I expect both games to be competitive, but I'm confident the freshman team will pull out the win (knock on wood). On JV, I think it could go either way. [/quote] PNG freshman has never defeated Nederland Freshman in football or any other sport. I hope that tradition continues  ;D. PNG freshman has a great QB and some goods kids, looking forward to a high scoring "fun" game. [/quote] You mean this particular freshman class? That's not entirely true. Both the PNMS and GMS 8th grade A teams beat the Central team badly (by 40 points in the Warriors' case) and both barely lost to CO Wilson. [/quote] Ok, I stand corrected, I was not thinking of Central. I disagree with barely losing to CO. Both games IMO, were never realy in questions. I do think PN and G merger helped better than Central and CO merger. It will fun to watch Thursday [/quote] As I understand it, both teams lost by less than a touchdown. Maybe the game wasn't as close as the score indicates, but I guess we'll find out Thursday. [/quote] CO beat Groves 40 something to 12 or 18, dont remeber the PN score but it was by 2 or 3 td's [/quote] ... I have a current freshman player that says otherwise, but ok....

[quote name="Bulldog8" post="1301584" timestamp="1350353373"] [quote author=football04 link=topic=104723.msg1301566#msg1301566 date=1350352288] [quote author=Bulldog8 link=topic=104723.msg1301489#msg1301489 date=1350347196] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=104723.msg1301486#msg1301486 date=1350346767] [quote author=Bulldog8 link=topic=104723.msg1301467#msg1301467 date=1350345297] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=104723.msg1301095#msg1301095 date=1350318470] Nothing like smack talking with some facts...cant make me eat crow for that. ;D 1. They haven't had a shut-out against PN-G since 1988. (seen some predicting one this year---good luck with that...Ned has only shut PN-G out 10 times since 1925...on the other hand they have went home empty handed 21 times) 2. Their longest winning streak in MCM is 3 yrs. (just cant seem to get over that hump and make it 4 in a row.) 3. They let PN-G whip that butt 15 yrs in a row. 4. And last but not least...Nederland may have bragging rights for another year...but we have them overall. Nederland would have to beat us 15 yrs in a row to catch up with PN-Gs winning tradition. The series is 48 PN-G 33 Nederland  7 Tied  (5 years we didnt compete). [/quote] I love MCM... BUT one of your "joe Biden" facts are wrong... guess which one? Hint -Which suprises me if are truly PNG fan. [/quote] Sorry..miss counted..Nederland has only shut us out 9 times...I was at work and had to count fast. [/quote] Nope, try again... another hint, the 84 season the streak was broken [/quote] Well, don't leave us hanging. [/quote] I was waiting for the PNG faithful to answer. 1984 season the dogs snapped a 20 year losing streak (not 15, I hate to add 5 years). He might have been thinking a shorter streak because there was a game a few years before that the refs called winning TD catch and the ball skipped about 5 yards and the dogs lost on that call. I think you were there 04 [/quote] It's 15 if you only count PN-G wins. Counting a couple ties in the '60s, PN-G technically didn't lose a game for 19 straight seasons.

[quote name="Bulldog8" post="1301581" timestamp="1350353046"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104733.msg1301564#msg1301564 date=1350352113] [quote author=Bulldog8 link=topic=104733.msg1301473#msg1301473 date=1350345645] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104733.msg1301318#msg1301318 date=1350332565] The freshman team is very good. I expect both games to be competitive, but I'm confident the freshman team will pull out the win (knock on wood). On JV, I think it could go either way. [/quote] PNG freshman has never defeated Nederland Freshman in football or any other sport. I hope that tradition continues  ;D. PNG freshman has a great QB and some goods kids, looking forward to a high scoring "fun" game. [/quote] You mean this particular freshman class? That's not entirely true. Both the PNMS and GMS 8th grade A teams beat the Central team badly (by 40 points in the Warriors' case) and both barely lost to CO Wilson. [/quote] Ok, I stand corrected, I was not thinking of Central. I disagree with barely losing to CO. Both games IMO, were never realy in questions. I do think PN and G merger helped better than Central and CO merger. It will fun to watch Thursday [/quote] As I understand it, both teams lost by less than a touchdown. Maybe the game wasn't as close as the score indicates, but I guess we'll find out Thursday.

[quote name="Bulldog8" post="1301473" timestamp="1350345645"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104733.msg1301318#msg1301318 date=1350332565] The freshman team is very good. I expect both games to be competitive, but I'm confident the freshman team will pull out the win (knock on wood). On JV, I think it could go either way. [/quote] PNG freshman has never defeated Nederland Freshman in football or any other sport. I hope that tradition continues  ;D. PNG freshman has a great QB and some goods kids, looking forward to a high scoring "fun" game. [/quote] You mean this particular freshman class? That's not entirely true. Both the PNMS and GMS 8th grade A teams beat the Central team badly (by 40 points in the Warriors' case) and both barely lost to CO Wilson.

[quote name="bigdog" post="1301553" timestamp="1350350550"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=104664.msg1301481#msg1301481 date=1350346484] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=104664.msg1301479#msg1301479 date=1350346282] I guess you have to have something to hold on to.  You might want to erase the last 15 years, at least as far Nederland goes. :) [/quote] I'm fine with y'all having those fifteen years. If we erase those, we erase some of our own best seasons (1999, 2003, 2007, 2009 and 2010 come to mind). Besides, it'll take at least 15 more for Nederland to catch up to us in MCM, and Neumann has to retire some time. ;D [/quote] You can always hope :) [/quote] How old is Neumann, anyways? He's got to be in the mid to late 50s.

[quote name="tvc" post="1301492" timestamp="1350347446"] When you have been owned for the last 20 years, you have to dig deep into history to find something to crow about. [/quote] A feeling Nederland fans knew better then (you know, back in the dinosaur days of your childhood) than PN-G fans ever have. ;)

[quote name="GoDogs27" post="1301494" timestamp="1350347465"] I'd rather bark than dance around in boots with bells, chaps, a loin cloth, and feathers in my hair. All that he needs is a purple boa. THAT my friends is PRIDE....    :D [/quote] He has black under armour on under the loin cloth. As a former Nederland football player, you of all people should respect that. But hey, sometimes you have to do extreme things to get a premier spot in the Texas State History Museum. ;D

[quote name="Bulldog8" post="1301489" timestamp="1350347196"] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=104723.msg1301486#msg1301486 date=1350346767] [quote author=Bulldog8 link=topic=104723.msg1301467#msg1301467 date=1350345297] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=104723.msg1301095#msg1301095 date=1350318470] Nothing like smack talking with some facts...cant make me eat crow for that. ;D 1. They haven't had a shut-out against PN-G since 1988. (seen some predicting one this year---good luck with that...Ned has only shut PN-G out 10 times since 1925...on the other hand they have went home empty handed 21 times) 2. Their longest winning streak in MCM is 3 yrs. (just cant seem to get over that hump and make it 4 in a row.) 3. They let PN-G whip that butt 15 yrs in a row. 4. And last but not least...Nederland may have bragging rights for another year...but we have them overall. Nederland would have to beat us 15 yrs in a row to catch up with PN-Gs winning tradition. The series is 48 PN-G 33 Nederland  7 Tied  (5 years we didnt compete). [/quote] I love MCM... BUT one of your "joe Biden" facts are wrong... guess which one? Hint -Which suprises me if are truly PNG fan. [/quote] Sorry..miss counted..Nederland has only shut us out 9 times...I was at work and had to count fast. [/quote] Nope, try again... another hint, the 4 season the streak was broken [/quote] 1954 through 1957 - a period which included a state championship appearance and a state title for PN-G and a state championship appearance for Nederland, if I'm not mistaken.