PN-G bamatex

Baytown Sterling at [b]Port Arthur Memorial[/b] Crosby at [b]Barbers Hill[/b] [b]Goose Creek Memorial[/b] at Baytown Lee Houston C.E. King at [b]Dayton[/b] Livingston at [b]Vidor[/b] [b]Nederland[/b] at Little Cypress-Mauriceville [b]Port Neches-Groves[/b] at Beaumont Central [b]Kirbyville[/b] at Center [b]Bridge City[/b] at Orangefield Hardin-Jefferson at [b]West Orange-Stark[/b] [b]Silsbee[/b] at Hamshire-Fannett Liberty at [b]Coldspring[/b] [b]East Chambers[/b] at Warren Hardin at [b]Anahuac[/b] [b]Newton[/b] at Kountze Woodville at [b]Buna[/b] [b]San Augustine[/b] at New Waverly Deweyville at [b]Hemphill[/b] [b]West Sabine[/b] at Hull-Daisetta [b]Evadale[/b] at High Island Sabine Pass at [b]Burkeville[/b] Houston Christian at [b]Beaumont Kelly[/b] [b]Beaumont Legacy[/b] at Cedar Park Summit Christian [b]La Porte[/b] at Beaumont West Brook Lumberton at [b]Beaumont Ozen[/b]

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1100805" timestamp="1320086326"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=90627.msg1100693#msg1100693 date=1320080970] [quote author=TexasMinuteman link=topic=90627.msg1100684#msg1100684 date=1320080486] From a 3AAA follower looking at you 'big dogs' I would have to go with BH in this one,not beacause of the record but because of the way they've played week after week.I have seen nothing but improvement on the BH side. PNG struggled against Vidor who is a good football team but Vidor doesnt have the defense BH has.PNG is going to have to score more than 2 Tds to win and only Dayton has done that this year,as a matter of fact no team has even scored 2 Td's against them this year except Dayton.BH will score at least 3 Tds and controll the tempo of the game.Good luck to all.   Barbers Hill 24 PNG 10 [/quote] I agree that a PN-G/BH game would be a tough one and that BH is obviously favored because of their record (although I would personally still pick PN-G), but PN-G didn't "struggle" with Vidor. We were up 22-0 at the end of the third quarter. Vidor changed offensive schemes and we took too long to adjust. Now, had Vidor been mixing things up all along, I'd agree that that game would have been a struggle. Vidor's last minute almost-comeback proves that they had the potential. They just stuck with a hard-nosed running offense for three quarters that we had figured out and shut down (with help from some penalties). [/quote] To be honest Vidor didn't change offensive schemes. The only we did was get momentum and brought a new qb in and a new fullback in. And we also ran a few plays that we hadn't run yet. That's it. Not taking anything away from PNG. And as for shutting down our offense if you really did shut it down why did Vidor have more yards and first downs than yall?  ::)  8) [/quote] Per PhatMack's stats, Vidor had 109 passing yards in the game. Vidor didn't put a single WR into the game until the fourth quarter, which came with a back-up QB, a good arm and a total shift in play-calling. Every one of those 109 yards was put up with six completions in the fourth quarter. So yes, you did have a shift in momentum, but it came as a result of a major shift on offense and a PN-G defense that was uncharacteristically slow to adjust. And yes, we had you shut down until the fourth quarter. Vidor trailed PN-G in nearly every respect going into the last quarter of the game. We took our foot off the gas and Vidor put the pedal to the metal to almost make a comeback and post some impressive stats. I'll say it again: if Vidor had been mixing things up to begin with, the outcome of this game may have been very different. Personally, I think it would be a good idea for Vidor to put in the back-up QB more often and throw the ball around a little more against Livingston and in the playoffs, but that's just me and I'm not a coach.

I had originally picked Livingston to win this one, but I'm going with Vidor in a close one now that Mays is out. I hope Matthews gives that back-up QB more chances to throw the ball.

I thought we would play Dayton in the first round if Vidor beats Livingston and we beat Central this week. ???

[quote name="TexasMinuteman" post="1100684" timestamp="1320080486"] From a 3AAA follower looking at you 'big dogs' I would have to go with BH in this one,not beacause of the record but because of the way they've played week after week.I have seen nothing but improvement on the BH side. PNG struggled against Vidor who is a good football team but Vidor doesnt have the defense BH has.PNG is going to have to score more than 2 Tds to win and only Dayton has done that this year,as a matter of fact no team has even scored 2 Td's against them this year except Dayton.BH will score at least 3 Tds and controll the tempo of the game.Good luck to all.   Barbers Hill 24 PNG 10 [/quote] I agree that a PN-G/BH game would be a tough one and that BH is obviously favored because of their record (although I would personally still pick PN-G), but PN-G didn't "struggle" with Vidor. We were up 22-0 at the end of the third quarter. Vidor changed offensive schemes and we took too long to adjust. Now, had Vidor been mixing things up all along, I'd agree that that game would have been a struggle. Vidor's last minute almost-comeback proves that they had the potential. They just stuck with a hard-nosed running offense for three quarters that we had figured out and shut down (with help from some penalties).

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1099836" timestamp="1319994455"] 5A  Harrison    PAM 4A  Neuman    Nederland 3A  jury still out 2A  Sutherland  East Chambers 1A  Jones      High Island [/quote] ^ That, except I'd put Gage in over Neumann.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1099805" timestamp="1319991839"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=90612.msg1099801#msg1099801 date=1319990865] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=90612.msg1099796#msg1099796 date=1319990505] The ultimate version of self flattery. Come on Bamakid. When i was living in the FWD area I talked to a lot of people about football and when i could i mentioned high school football and more people mentioned the likes of Dayton and Vidor then they did PNG. Just stating my opinion.  8) [/quote] Bud, I've been in New York City, Washington, DC, Alabama, and Florida while wearing PN-G attire and have had it recognized, to say nothing of how many times it's been recognized all over Texas and Louisiana. When we were at the Alamodome, we brought so many fans that we had businesses advocating dying the river purple and having a pep rally. I've had people ask me where I'm from and they almost automatically start talking about Cherokee, the band or the football team in all parts of Texas. I've walked into UIL meets and heard sponsors - not kids - say something to the tune of "Oh, sh*t, PN-G's here. We know who's going to win now." Sorry, but Vidor and Dayton just don't have that. [/quote] Well maybe you mention it or maybe the people you ran into were different than the people i ran into but i can tell you that because of the navy i have been to chicago, new york, cali, nevada, virginia, florida, mississippi, and washington dc as well and the people i talked to about high school football never said one thing about PNG or the color purple or indians.  Yes you set the record at the Alamodome and that is amazing man but PNG is not the poster school for Texas High School Football like yall are making it sound. [/quote] You're right. It's not the poster school. To most, the poster school is Odessa-Permian... despite PN-G bringing more fans to and beating them in the 1975 state championship. Nonetheless, PN-G still on the forefront of Texas high schools. If you don't believe me, take a trip to Austin and tour the Bob Bullock museum.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1099796" timestamp="1319990505"] The ultimate version of self flattery. Come on Bamakid. When i was living in the FWD area I talked to a lot of people about football and when i could i mentioned high school football and more people mentioned the likes of Dayton and Vidor then they did PNG. Just stating my opinion.  8) [/quote] Bud, I've been in New York City, Washington, DC, Alabama, and Florida while wearing PN-G attire and have had it recognized, to say nothing of how many times it's been recognized all over Texas and Louisiana. When we were at the Alamodome, we brought so many fans that we had businesses advocating dying the river purple and having a pep rally. I've had people ask me where I'm from and they almost automatically start talking about Cherokee, the band or the football team in all parts of Texas. I've walked into UIL meets and heard sponsors - not kids - say something to the tune of "Oh, sh*t, PN-G's here. We know who's going to win now." Sorry, but Vidor and Dayton just don't have that.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1099794" timestamp="1319990258"] [quote author=outanup link=topic=90627.msg1099763#msg1099763 date=1319986402] Not taking sides here but, what was wrong with the video? [/quote] Who said anything was wrong with the Video? [/quote] From what I can gather, the video wasn't the problem.

PN-G will always have haters for a number of reasons. Yes, we have posters and fans in general who take things way too far. Yes, we probably have more of them than anyone else. But with that said, we have more fans than everyone else. It follows that we have more of each type of fan since we have more fans altogether. By the same token, fans of other teams that aren't exactly classy love to focus on PN-G more than any other school. Why? Everybody loves to pick on the big guy. PN-G has more name-recognition, more fans and more influence than any other school out there, as well as more success than most. There aren't many schools that can lay claim to the legacy PN-G has established and there are none that can claim the community support PN-G has, has had and will continue to have in the future. There's a reason we have the national record for fan attendance at a high school football game and there's a reason that PN-G is almost feared in almost every field of high school competition. Heck, there's a reason most fans of other teams know our fight song better than their own. Those rabid fans of other schools (not all fans of other schools) hate that fact more than anything else and they key in on that. Some will blow small, isolated incidents way out of proportion to make PN-G look bad, some will stretch things to try and blame PN-G for this, that and the other, and some will just spew unadulterated, nonsensical hatred. As far as I'm concerned, it just means we're doing something right and that we're still good ol' PN-G. For those two reasons, you tend to get a more... colorful, for lack of a better word, exchange of posts and "trash talk" in threads relating to PN-G than in others.

[quote name="1989NDN" post="1099026" timestamp="1319911883"] Congratulations, neighbors.  Think of all the things that have happened since Nederland last won an outright championship in 1965. Vietnam MLK and RFK assassinated Man on the moon Jets win SB over the Colts Woodstock Roe v Wade Ali v Frazier at MSG and in the Thrilla in Manilla Watergate The Miracle on Ice in 1980 The Challenger explosion Tiananmen Square in China Collapse of the Soviet Union Berlin Wall falls Desert Shield/Storm Mandela and de Klerk end apartheid in South Africa Computers Cell phones Smart phone Death of Princess Diana 9/11 OBL rise … and fall The Taliban Rovers on Mars…pictures of the red planet Iraq – Afghanistan Deaths of Janis Joplin, Elvis, Michael Jackson The Dallas Cowboys won 5 SB 9 US Presidents in office [LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, W, and Obama] I’m sure I’ve left out some notable things in history…46 years is a long time.  Ned = clearly the best team in 20-4A in 2011.  [golf clap]  Well done. Go Indians.  Peace. [/quote] Classic. ;D But you left out three PN-G state championship appearances. ;D Congratulations, Nederland. It's well earned.

Alright, the dust is settled and now it's time to give some props to both teams. I have got to hand it to Vidor. I walked into this game thinking Vidor was overrated and that PN-G was going to prove it. Vidor's defense seemed almost too motivated in the first quarter; they kept having off sides and pass interference penalties, and it's obvious that they weren't controlling themselves very well. In the second quarter, it looked like Mathews had gotten them to calm down and there weren't as many penalties, but Vidor started giving up long runs and even a two point conversion. After the half, Vidor looked better, but they came out of the inflatable skull looking flat and demoralized. At that point, I was starting to think the game was over, and another Indian touchdown along with a goose egg on Vidor's side of the board at the end of the third affirmed that notion. Through the third quarter, it was looking like I was right and Vidor really was overrated. The fourth quarter proved me wrong. When Vidor switched quarterbacks and finally started having success in the air, I started getting worried. It was obvious that the momentum was shifting and the Pirates had some wind in their sails (no pun intended). When the Pirates brought in that two point conversion to make the score 22-15, I just about had a heart attack and I'm pretty sure I did have one on that last personal foul penalty against the Indians. Our defense seemed to be crumbling in frustration towards the end of the game, and for a moment I thought I'd be eating crow with this post. Vidor has the ability to score quickly and take advantage of what defenses give them when they knuckle down and focus. No team should overlook them. Good luck Pirates and go beat Livingston. The Indians had a great game for the first three quarters. I don't think anyone expected to be up 15-0 at the half and 22-0 at the end of the third. That's a real testament to the improvements our defense has made since last year. After the Ozen, LC-M and Vidor games, I think it's obvious at this point that the Indian defense is once again a force to be reckoned with in District 20-4A, providing that they can play consistently. Now go wrap up district and beat Central. I want to catch another PN-G game at some point this year and I won't be home again until Thanksgiving. Scalp 'em!

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1097396" timestamp="1319836076"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=90566.msg1097392#msg1097392 date=1319835898] We played at Vidor's homecoming in 2007 as well (my freshman year). 2008, the year Indian Stadium got a facelift, is the exception. Personally, I think it's neat. Both teams know their homecomings are going to be sold out and we get the added benefit of seeing Vidor's awesome homecoming show every other year. I say we keep the tradition going if possible. [/quote] I'm down with that. Playing a fan base like PNG on our homecoming is great. It just guarantee's that the stadium will get packed lol. [/quote] Exactly. Might as well keep it going.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1097272" timestamp="1319827944"] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=90465.msg1097271#msg1097271 date=1319827883] [quote author=KHS 89 link=topic=90465.msg1097262#msg1097262 date=1319827605] [quote author=TNTITANS link=topic=90465.msg1097246#msg1097246 date=1319826530] Sure hope those Indian fans are ready for SLAVONIC all night long!  GOOOOOOOOO PIRATESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!  Is it kick off time yet? [/quote] We will be all ears.....  during both of your run throughs.  Hopefully, that will be the only two times are ears will have to hear that.  ;D ;D [/quote] Im sure Cherokee will drown that mess out! ;D [/quote] We'll see about that. I'm sure Cherokee will be the last thing on your minds by the end of the game. [/quote] And it'll still be on your mind a week later. ;) ;D

We played at Vidor's homecoming in 2007 as well (my freshman year). 2008, the year Indian Stadium got a facelift, is the exception. Personally, I think it's neat. Both teams know their homecomings are going to be sold out and we get the added benefit of seeing Vidor's awesome homecoming show every other year. I say we keep the tradition going if possible.

[quote name="PirateGirl4ever" post="1095867" timestamp="1319735233"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=90465.msg1095852#msg1095852 date=1319734179] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=90465.msg1095712#msg1095712 date=1319723658] And as the generations get older you would think that more season tickets would become available...not so....Granny will be up in the stands on life support cheering for her Indians! [/quote] Shoot, Granny'd be hooking an air horn up to her oxygen tank and taping purple pom-poms to her walker. ;D [/quote] The visual I just got of Granny in the stands with the oxygen tank hooked up to everything made me crack up!!! Too funny!!! [/quote] I swear, that's going to be my first grade teacher in twenty years.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1095194" timestamp="1319664501"] What am i gonna believe. A video? Or you? hmmmmm now thats a hard one. Come on man. Are you really gonna try and sit here and say that wasn't a horse collar? [/quote] Man, are you [i]still[/i] whining about last year? ;) ;D

[quote name="NDNation" post="1095712" timestamp="1319723658"] And as the generations get older you would think that more season tickets would become available...not so....Granny will be up in the stands on life support cheering for her Indians! [/quote] Shoot, Granny'd be hooking an air horn up to her oxygen tank and taping purple pom-poms to her walker. ;D

[quote name="90PNGNDN" post="1094827" timestamp="1319649430"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=90465.msg1094811#msg1094811 date=1319648177] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=90465.msg1094774#msg1094774 date=1319646372] What else is new....  Almost time to add on again? [/quote] They should've kept endzone seating. The scoreboard should be where the old one was and there should be endzone seats where it is now. [/quote] That's what I thought they were going to do originally as well...IMO it didn't make sense to get rid of seats...but typically the visitor side won't sell out unless it's Nederland. [/quote] The school will say that they technically didn't get rid of seats. The home side supposedly has the same capacity now that it had when we still had the endzone seating. With that said, I personally think Indian Stadium was in need of an expansion, not just a renovation. You can't tell me we wouldn't sell an extra thousand tickets or so, especially in a season like 2009. That's some serious extra cash.

[quote name="BH 89-2" post="1094786" timestamp="1319646933"] [quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=90449.msg1094633#msg1094633 date=1319637582] BH in 4A: 2006 lost first round to Central 2007 No Playoffs 2008 No Playoffs 2009 Lost first round to PNG 2010 Lost first round to PNG 2011 Lost first round to any 20-4A playoff team  ;D You know I'm messing with ya'll because I'm the only person outside of BH that said at the start of the year that BH was going to be very strong this year. Good luck the rest of the way. [/quote] Well at least there is ONE person East of the Trinity that has some sense.  Did you hear that fool last night on the internet talking about Nederland should be #1?  I almost poured my grey poupon all over my food.  ;)  Here are the facts about 20-4A and 19-4A: 20-4A 1. Nederland = Good Defense, avergae offense, good coaching 2. PNG = Good offense, poor defense, great coaching 3. Livingston = Good QB.  Poor defense, less than average offense, tons of injuries. Average at best coaching. 4. Vidor = Good defense, good offense, fair coaching, play hard every down. 5. Ozen - Bad offense, Bad defense, Bad Coaching.  Athletic RB.  Not a good team. Here is the summary for the slow learners.  * Nederland is a sound team.  Team being the most important part of that.  BH has already beat them and both teams are playing better now than then. This would be a good game, but BH can run their offense around Nederland's strength, which is their D-Line. BH's defense is better against the pass than Nederland. BH plays almost all spread teams with good QB's, so they get tested. * Livingston is so injury striken they may not make the playoffs and if they do they will NEVER beat any of the 19-4A teams.  I have seen them play and those they might face.  No comparison at this point between Livingston and 19-4A top 6 teams. * PNG has already been beatin by Crosby and has a poor defense.  With Doty last year PNG barely beat BH, with BH's back-up QB playing the full game.  BH this year has a much better offense and much better defense.  No chance of PNG winning this game or even coming close. Ozen - Not even worth discussing.  They have zero chance against any 19-4A team.    *Vidor - Vidor is a fair offensive and defensive team.  Lumberton almost beat them and they have not won a game.  Ozen almost beat them and I have already described just how bad they are.  Fact is, Vidor has never beat BH and won't this year should they play. Vidor does poorly against speed team (and don't say Central because they suck).  All of the teams that Vidor would face in 19-4A have speed (Crosby, GCM, Dayton) and Vidor won't match up again. All that means is Nederland will have to play good defense to beat whomever they face to win.  None of the other options have any chance. [/quote] PN-G's defense has improved greatly since playing Crosby. I think Cox and Arnaud are finding a rhythm (based on what I can tell from 530 miles away) and the defense is reflecting that. Ozen's the kind of team that is really two teams: a good one and a bad one. They're either completely into the game and firing on all cylinders or they come in flat and stay that way. The final score really depends on which Ozen team shows up. Other than that, I mostly agree with what you said.

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="1094774" timestamp="1319646372"] What else is new....  Almost time to add on again? [/quote] They should've kept endzone seating. The scoreboard should be where the old one was and there should be endzone seats where it is now.

[quote name="bigdog" post="1094713" timestamp="1319643279"] [quote author=robanadana link=topic=90240.msg1094689#msg1094689 date=1319642341] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=90240.msg1094602#msg1094602 date=1319635584] [quote author=robanadana link=topic=90240.msg1094533#msg1094533 date=1319618848] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=90240.msg1094484#msg1094484 date=1319600672] Vidor  24 PNG    30 [/quote] Here we go again with the Vidor defense getting no love. No way PNG hangs 30 on our defense. Gotta disagree with you this time. This game will be in the 20's at best points wise. By the way, the indians have to show they can stop our ball control offense to get their offense on the field. Vidor 24, PNG 17. [/quote] The best defense in the district couldnt hold us below 20....no way Vidor can keep us at 17...you may need to flip flop that prediction. [/quote] Nederland's defense isn't any better than Vidor's and we played AT THEIR HOUSE. Look at the statistics. The only team to put 30 on us this year was Texas High in the 1st game of the season. Your defense is giving up over 250 yards rushing a game which is what we do. We run the ball, your offense stays on the sidelines. We'll see who has the best athletes. Do the math. [/quote] You might need to look at your man .02's stats on the other thread before you make statements like that.  Ned's D is averaging 50 yards less than Vidors in district and you haven't played the top 2 offenses yet. [/quote] Bingo.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1094162" timestamp="1319575974"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=90240.msg1094160#msg1094160 date=1319575887] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=90240.msg1094148#msg1094148 date=1319575550] [quote author=Purple Runs Deep link=topic=90240.msg1094146#msg1094146 date=1319575381] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=90240.msg1094141#msg1094141 date=1319575253] [quote author=Purple Runs Deep link=topic=90240.msg1094131#msg1094131 date=1319574914] Only 3 days, 5 hours, 26 mins, and 10 secs to kickoff...but who's counting?  ;D [/quote] To be exact its only 3 days, 3 hours, and 40 minutes.  8) [/quote] My bad.... you know us PN-G fans can only count on one thing....WINNING!!! [/quote] yeah that's true. How many wins do yall have this year? I think were up to 7 by now  ::)  8) [/quote] How many wins does Vidor have overall? PN-G is over the 500 mark. ;) ;D [/quote] Dang. I kinda set myself up for that one. To be honest idk what our overall win mark is. [/quote] Too embarrassed to share. I understand. ;) ;D

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1094148" timestamp="1319575550"] [quote author=Purple Runs Deep link=topic=90240.msg1094146#msg1094146 date=1319575381] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=90240.msg1094141#msg1094141 date=1319575253] [quote author=Purple Runs Deep link=topic=90240.msg1094131#msg1094131 date=1319574914] Only 3 days, 5 hours, 26 mins, and 10 secs to kickoff...but who's counting?  ;D [/quote] To be exact its only 3 days, 3 hours, and 40 minutes.  8) [/quote] My bad.... you know us PN-G fans can only count on one thing....WINNING!!! [/quote] yeah that's true. How many wins do yall have this year? I think were up to 7 by now  ::)  8) [/quote] How many wins does Vidor have overall? PN-G is over the 500 mark. ;) ;D

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1094124" timestamp="1319574519"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=90240.msg1094111#msg1094111 date=1319573881] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=90240.msg1094106#msg1094106 date=1319573713] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=90240.msg1094099#msg1094099 date=1319573357] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=90240.msg1094098#msg1094098 date=1319573261] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=90240.msg1094095#msg1094095 date=1319573207] [quote author=ndnsrock44 link=topic=90240.msg1094052#msg1094052 date=1319570945] mytwocents doesn't seem like a  bad guy, he just REALLY loves his team[/quote] No, he's not a bad guy. :) Even if he does love the wrong team. ;) ;D [/quote] We'll see who loves the wrong team after friday Bamakid.  8) [/quote] Tell that to 8,000 Indian fans and let's see what kind of response you get. ;D [/quote] 8,000? That's it? [/quote] That's all the home side will fit these days. I personally think they should have kept endzone seats, but that's just my opinion. In the playoffs, however, it would easily be 3-5 times that if we're in a stadium large enough.[/quote] That's if yall make it that far.  ::)  8)  lmao [/quote] Don't count us out. I think PN-G is going to have a couple of deep runs in the next five next years.