PN-G bamatex

[quote name="Scalpem06" post="874046" timestamp="1286999325"] I didnt graduate long ago and most of the so called "rockers" or people who where in a rock/punk band boycoted pep rallys.. [/quote] That's not the case any more. I remember when it was, though. It changed last year. It's amazing what one winning season and a new attitude will do.

[quote name="indianforever" post="873418" timestamp="1286928897"] thats easy PN-G vs Central 2009 [/quote] Agreed. That was a great game.

It's been posted on the main page of www.pngindians.com and it sounds great. Former students and fans taking time out of their day to do something like this is another example of the Indian pride that the PN-G community is known for.

[quote name="DOGS1988" post="868608" timestamp="1286546097"] Another derailment .... PNG rolls with win  [glow=red,2,300]PNG 42 - LHS 14 [/glow] Good luck to both teams! [/quote] I don't know if you gamble, but you sound like a natural... ;D

Kirbyville @ [b]WO-S[/b] East Chambers @ [b]Newton[/b] Baytown Lee @ [b]Barbers Hill[/b] CE King @ [b]Goose Creek[/b] North Forest @ [b]Crosby[/b] [b]Dayton [/b] @ Galena Park Central @ [b]Livingston[/b] [b]LC-M[/b] @ Ozen [b]PN-G[/b] @ Nederland Vidor @ [b]Lumberton[/b] [b]Cleveland [/b] @ Splendora Coldspring @ [b]Shepherd[/b] [b]Buna [/b] @ Hardin Kountze @ [b]Anahuac[/b] Orangefield @ [b]Jasper[/b] High Island @ [b]West Hardin[/b] Sabine Pass @ [b]Colmesneil[/b] Rusk @ [b]Diboll[/b] [b]Corrigan Camden[/b] @ Crockett [b]West Sabine[/b] @ Mt Enterprise

[quote name="Lionfan" post="854643" timestamp="1285291701"] LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!   The Lions will have to do a good job of containing Steve Doty he is a decent QB!!!!   The disrespect showed to the Livingston Lions on this board never ceases to amaze me you guys can't even refer to Lion players by their correct name of identify the college they attend. Wait I guess you guys got Dustin Harris mixed up with all the former injuns playin the Big 12. The Livingston Lions will pound the football right down them injun throats and win 31-21 mark it down. [/quote] Our quarterback's name is Brennan Doty.

[quote name="Lionfan" post="854519" timestamp="1285277163"] The Lions have a little surprise in store for you injuns can't reveal it just yet but by the middle of the third quater injun fans will be saying where did that guy come from? [/quote] I seem to remember you saying something similar last year. In fact, I know I do. [quote author=Lionfan link=topic=60224.msg663444#msg663444 date=1254603308] Ok guys I know I might get in trouble for letting the cat out of the bag, but I just can't handle all this one dimensional stuff. [b]The Lions will unveil a secret weapon this week they have been spending at least 20 minutes every practice working on a five wide spread attack and word is they plan to use it almost exclusively against the Indians. I almost forgot one other thing the Lions have a big wideout that has been injured all year 6'5" and runs a 4.4 he was cleared to play this week buy coaches elected to hold him out of Ozen game.[/b] So I really hope the Indians spend all week working on stopping the run, they will be in for a big surprise Friday night in "The Jungle" [/quote]

[font=Times New Roman][b][size=36pt]The Remodeled Reservation Has Its Revenge[/size] [size=18pt]Lions Run Back to The Jungle As Tribe Repays Livingston for First Loss in New Stadium; Lionfan Calls in and Cancels Internet Service Panthers take "Blow" out of "Blowzen," Central Now Nicknamed "Blowmont Middle" SETX Teams Everywhere Honor Fallen Comrade Reggie Garrett[/size][/b][/font]

[b]LaPorte [/b] @ Deer Park Tyler Lee @ [b]West Brook[/b] Barbers Hill @ [b]Dayton[/b] [b]Crosby [/b] @ Baytown Lee [b]Ozen [/b] @ Central Livingston @ [b]PN-G[/b] [b]Nederland [/b] @ Vidor [b]Lumberton [/b] @ LC-M [b]Hardin [/b] @ Kountze [b]Anahuac [/b] @ Warren [b]Kirbyvville [/b] @ Willis Point [b]Newton [/b] @ Buna [b]Woodville [/b] @ East Chambers [b]PA Memorial [/b] @ South Houston Hamshire-Fannett @ [b]Beaumont Kelly[/b] [b]Hardin-Jefferson[/b] @ Diboll Jasper @ [b]Silsbee[/b] Stafford @ [b]Bridge City[/b] [b]Hull-Daisetta[/b] @ Deweyville West Hardin @[b] Evadale[/b]

[quote name="Lionfan" post="851382" timestamp="1284926650"] The Lions have the same ground based offense that allowed them to got three rounds deep in '07, manhandle PNG in '08, and play Dayton down to the wire '08. Note highly ranked Brenham only managed to put up 28 against Huntsville while the run based Lions hung a 40 spot on em so ya'll be the judge. [/quote] I'm not saying that a ground-based offense isn't great when you have the players for it, it's just predictable and something that a solid defense shouldn't have much trouble with. And you're correct in saying that this same offense allowed Livingston to "manhandle" PN-G in 2008... along with every other team in this district except LC-M... because of our easily predictable play-calling.... Ground-based offenses, at least in my experience, are "hit and miss" styles of play. The same running-dominant playbook that brought PN-G a second-round playoff loss to an eventual state champion in 2007 took the Indians through one of the worst seasons in school history in 2008.

[quote name="Roughrider" post="851223" timestamp="1284917499"] [quote author=PN-G bandkid link=topic=72900.msg851173#msg851173 date=1284914757] [quote author=willforever link=topic=72900.msg851155#msg851155 date=1284913407] That's great, you got your college degree in 3 years!  Wow!   That says a lot about you... It's questionable how PNG BandKid jumps on this board and Smitty disappears..hmmm... Use your laptop and desktop?   Definition of POSEUR : a person who pretends to be what he or she is not : an affected or insincere person. No one believes that you are a NEDERLAND supporter (of course, this is for smitty).  I can clearly identify people with a degree in BS. [/quote] Ok, bud, it was a joke. I'm not smitty. Granted, the joke got a little out of hand, but it was just a joke. And for the record, I don't have a college degree. I'm still in high school. My only point with the talk about the PN-G AP/LEAP programs was to counter your joke about the standard for higher education in Nederland. PN-G has a series of AP and LEAP classes that are taught by experienced teachers, many of whom have either served as college professors (one at LSU) or teach classes at Lamar now, thus allowing their classes to double as college classes thanks to co-enrollment with Lamar or the taking of the AP test, which in turn allows PN-G students who take them to reduce the amount of time needed to earn their college diploma. Nederland has several AP and LEAP courses as well, as do many other schools in the area. [/quote] Who gives a crap....This is a football thread. [/quote] It's a competitive rivalry.

[quote name="Lionfan" post="851294" timestamp="1284921177"] I was not talking about the 20-4A coaches I was talking about the posters on this board who are consistently picking Livingston to finish last or next to last. [/quote] I'm one of those posters and I'll be glad to tell you why I think Livingston will be near the bottom. From what I've heard (and I admit that this is just what I've heard and that I would like to know more), Livingston is almost totally ground-based. I think that a team has to have some depth and mix up the play-calling to be competitive in this district. I think that a completely ground-based offense was Livingston's "Achilles' Heel" last year and will be again this year. It also sounds like their defense could use a little work. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Livingston pulled off a few upsets. Last year's win over Central proved that Livingston has the will-power, it's just a matter of what the Lions do with it. However, this is just the opinion of a band member, so take it for what it's worth.... ;D

Underestimated, huh? You realize that the entire PN-G coaching staff was at the Huntsville-Livingston game, right? Sounds like you're being taken seriously to me.

[quote name="willforever" post="851155" timestamp="1284913407"] That's great, you got your college degree in 3 years!  Wow!   That says a lot about you... It's questionable how PNG BandKid jumps on this board and Smitty disappears..hmmm... Use your laptop and desktop?   Definition of POSEUR : a person who pretends to be what he or she is not : an affected or insincere person. No one believes that you are a NEDERLAND supporter (of course, this is for smitty).  I can clearly identify people with a degree in BS. [/quote] Ok, bud, it was a joke. I'm not smitty. Granted, the joke got a little out of hand, but it was just a joke. And for the record, I don't have a college degree. I'm still in high school. My only point with the talk about the PN-G AP/LEAP programs was to counter your joke about the standard for higher education in Nederland. PN-G has a series of AP and LEAP classes that are taught by experienced teachers, many of whom have either served as college professors (one at LSU) or teach classes at Lamar now, thus allowing their classes to double as college classes thanks to co-enrollment with Lamar or the taking of the AP test, which in turn allows PN-G students who take them to reduce the amount of time needed to earn their college diploma. Nederland has several AP and LEAP courses as well, as do many other schools in the area.

[quote name="willforever" post="851126" timestamp="1284910647"] [quote author=PN-G bandkid link=topic=72900.msg851121#msg851121 date=1284910337] [quote author=willforever link=topic=72900.msg851075#msg851075 date=1284905882] Smitty is a PNG fan, no doubt, who doesn't posses any higher education.  That's a given.  Let' be smart and NOT feed his fire.  I know him and he can't fool us.  The only way he is paying taxes in Nederland is the money he's paying his ex. [/quote] If smitty really is a PN-G fan, then he probably possesses higher education. ;D [/quote] You're absolutely right!  In Nederland, we consider a higher education getting a College Diploma. [/quote] At PN-G, we consider higher education to be the attainment of a college diploma as well. It's just that, at PN-G, we have enough AP/LEAP programs to have our hands on a college diploma three years after graduation (or less, depending on the major). ;) That's what you get when your school has more AP/LEAP classes than any other school in the area. ;D

[quote name="willforever" post="851075" timestamp="1284905882"] Smitty is a PNG fan, no doubt, who doesn't posses any higher education.  That's a given.  Let' be smart and NOT feed his fire.  I know him and he can't fool us.  The only way he is paying taxes in Nederland is the money he's paying his ex. [/quote] If smitty really is a PN-G fan, then he probably possesses higher education. ;D

May the Lord be with the family, students, and community.

[quote name="raideroldtimer" post="848779" timestamp="1284683009"] [quote author=pngfan66 link=topic=73043.msg848707#msg848707 date=1284674128] [quote author=dont tread on me link=topic=73043.msg848664#msg848664 date=1284669334] [quote author=bh89-2 link=topic=73043.msg848651#msg848651 date=1284667710] Tyrone, They are asking about the football team silly! Sorry about that PNG Fan, he is from Dayton and very slow: Livingston Offense has 11 players Livingston Defence has 11 players  Livingston has 11 on Special Teams Hope that helps.   ;D [/quote]they also have a head coach and a few coordinators and a trainer ;D sorry had to add to it! [/quote] Do they have a water boy ? [/quote] Not sure about that, but if she's still there they have the most annoying home announcer in the state. [/quote] Hey guys, I have an announcement. Quinton Jackson is still on his feet. ;D

[quote name="raideroldtimer" post="847256" timestamp="1284482940"] [quote author=DOGS1988 link=topic=72455.msg847179#msg847179 date=1284477897] [quote author=raideroldtimer link=topic=72455.msg846882#msg846882 date=1284430492] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=72455.msg846291#msg846291 date=1284386651] [quote author=bojangles link=topic=72455.msg846183#msg846183 date=1284358890] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=72455.msg845662#msg845662 date=1284327395] [quote author=smitty link=topic=72455.msg845660#msg845660 date=1284327236] 1)  PN-G 2)  LC-M 3)  Livingston 4)  Lumberton [/quote]explaination? [/quote] haha after you explain why Lumberton wont be in..... 1) PN-G needs no explanation, they have played closely, 2 teams better than most in 20-4a...they just have "it" they are the team everyone wants to beat, but few admit it 2) Lumberton can score all night long with the best of em, and defense is bending, but not breaking. Dont have to kill people, a W is a W. Once the injury Bug leaves town and Ltrain is full strength again, will be tough to beat. 3)LCM is scoring at will, D is suspect, but kind of irrelevant against the several inferior opponents in the district this year...(Ozen, Vidor, Central  ;) 4)Livingston or Ned, really dont know about either [/quote] LCM will not stop Ozen or Central! This district is wide open for the taking. Both Beaumont schools will be right in the thick of it. The only inferior thing is LCM's defense and Lumberton's their strength of schedule so far. [/quote] Hmm, Lumberton's strength of schedule huh. Let's see Jasper, I'll give you that one although historically they are slow out of the gate. [color=red]Barbers Hill, didn't they spank Nederland last Friday?[/color] Oh, and before someone says we played them without some of their starters, that went both ways as we had a couple starters out and lost one during the game as well. Silsbee, picked to make the playoffs in their district, [color=red]won district champ last year against the team that pounded Nederland the first week.[/color] Dude, nobody says that Ozen and Central didn't play two very tough games to start the season with, in fact Ozen is making people notice, but face it, Central got blown out of both of their games and Galveston couldn't hold on to a ball if you super glued it to them. Yeah this district is up for grabs, but it definitely isn't gonna be the same old status quo this year. [/quote] SPANKED ..... POUNDED ...... geeze, why so many references to NEDERLAND??????? ..... sounds to me someone is worried about what Nederland is gonna do this year for you to use us as a comparison so much.... imo. Oh btw, if you call losing by 7 points to BH a spanking, then it will be interesting to me to hear how future loses for the Raiders will be justified and defended. I bet spanked will be removed from the vocabulary choices won't it? I wish upon the Raiders a sucessful season, as I do for all the teams in our district.  I hope that our DOGS will be more sucessful!!!! [/quote] Dogs, the main point I was trying to make is that every time you turn around most people on here are constantly picking the teams who are currently 1-2 to take this district while implying that all 3 teams that are undefeated aren't very good, because of their defenses or their supposed strength of schedule, etc. The reason I pulled out the dogs is that WOS and Silsbee are in the same district and Silsbee actually won that district. It was [b]only[/b] to make a point. People need to start realizing, that the traditional front runners aren't going to always take the playoff spots as this is probably one of the most evenly matched districts in the state if you ask me. I'll say it right now.............PNG might actually NOT make the playoffs, CENTRAL might actually NOT make the playoffs, oh Lord, someone dig a hole, cover me with honey and let the ants loose, I said it.  :o Here comes the fireworks. [/quote] First, I want to say that I think that LC-M and Lumberton are both going to be tough teams this year, that I look forward to watching them both play at Indian Stadium, and that, as of now, I feel confident that Lumberton will make the playoffs and that LC-M has a solid shot at them as well. PN-G's last two complete seasons had us at 3-0 in mid-September, just like LC-M and Lumberton are now. The first one ended with a final record of 3-6 and the second one ended with a record of 11-1. Based on this, I won't say that Lumberton and LC-M won't be successful, but I won't say that they will be, either. I also remember starting district play 1-2 in 2007 and ending up with a final record of 8-4, a playoff loss to an eventual state championship team, and a shared district title. A record isn't the only determining factor for predictions. The teams that were played while attaining that record need to be factored in as well. Although Lumberton and LC-M have both had good, solid pre-season schedules and now have records that speak for themselves, they didn't have the toughest pre-season schedule of any team in 20-4A. That distinction is PN-G's, and we are only three points out of 3-0, ourselves. It's not unreasonable to say that PN-G will be in the running for the district title again this year.

Please don't let a few dirty e-mails speak for all of us. Most of us (myself included) appreciate the work you do in keeping this program going and the work that all the moderators and administrators do in maintaining this site. I can't believe that there are some out there who don't.

PN-G LC-M or Lumberton (sounds like both teams can score; defense may decide the game) Nederland Ozen (in a close one)

[b]Katy[/b] @ West Brook [b]PA Memorial[/b] @ Aldine Aldine Eisenhower @ [b]Dayton[/b] [b]Livingston[/b] @ Huntsville [b]Kelly[/b] @ Liberty Coldspring @ [b]Orangefield[/b] Bridge City @ [b]Kirbyville[/b] Burkeville @ [b]Deweyville[/b] [b]East Chambers [/b] @ Hardin-Jefferson [b]Huffman[/b] @ Hamshire-Fannett Jasper @ [b]WOS[/b] [b]Silsbee [/b] @ Newton [b]Buna [/b] @ Hemphill West Hardin @ [b]Kountze[/b] Diboll @ [b]Sheperd[/b] Tarkington @ [b]Hull-Daisetta[/b] [b]Beaumont Legacy[/b] @ Sabine Pass Houston Washington @ [b]Cleveland[/b] [b]Brazosport Christain[/b] @ Chester [b]Evadale[/b] @ Colmesneil

I'm tied for second with four other people. And I'm in band. ;D

[quote name="tappedout" post="845747" timestamp="1284335467"] Who really care's who had more fan's? Did we win the game? No! We didn't lose because they had more or less people in the stand's. This sound's like a 3rd grade pissing match. Move on! [/quote] Two of the things that this community cherishes above nearly everything else are its ability to put fans in the stands and its unmatched support of PN-G students. In other words, many people care.

In my opinion, it'll all come down to the injuries. If Nederland can keep the team healthy and in fighting shape this year, then I have no problem saying that they have a good shot at a playoff spot. If they can't, then this may be a long year for the Bulldogs. Sorry, Dogs. I'm still pulling for you in every game except one... ;)