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The UIL is an appendage of the UT System, which is a state institution. Ergo, it falls under the Legislature's purview either way.

If anything, it's more like a genetic exchange program.

We'll see. Either way, we'll still have Dodge's number in seven years. 😎

I second every word of this post, the emboldened lines in particular. The game planning this season couldn't be beat, and the support PN-G enjoyed from the rest of Southeast Texas was deeply, deeply appreciated by the PN-G community.

Half the Houston-area schools we play think the 's' is silent in Groves, too. 😑

You have any idea how many boxes of pecans I picked up out of my grandmother’s yard down in “the” Groves back in the day? 😉

The Dodge contract was on $5K, plus an option to spend an additional $5K for additional consultation during this football season if needed. To my knowledge, that option was never exercised.

Must be a generational thing. That wasn’t the case when I was in high school.

PN-G is 5-5 versus Nederland over the last ten seasons.

I must have misinterpreted the post, then, because I've never heard anyone say that. I actually lived in Groves for the first six years of my life, before moving to Port Neches at the start of kindergarten. When I think back on our star athletes when I was in school, they were pretty evenly split. Port Neches may have had a slight advantage. What I have heard more times than I can count - mostly from Nederland fans - is some version of, "PN-G has two towns and Nederland only has one, so y'all will always have the advantage." That always struck me as a poor excuse for losing, especially considering how much of Port Neches is in Nederland ISD. Most of the students at Highland Park Elementary are actually Port Neches residents.

Neither does PN-G, or at least not a whole one. Pull up the district lines and city limits on Google Earth. Nederland ISD has all of Nederland, about a quarter of the city of Port Neches, all of Beauxart and Central Gardens and nearly all of the real estate in Port Arthur between FM 365 and Jimmy Johnson Boulevard. Port Arthur ISD has basically all of Groves south of Highway 73. PN-GISD only has what’s left of Port Neches and Groves, plus a sliver of Port Arthur around Lake Arthur Drive. Add all that up, and PN-GISD and Nederland ISD have roughly the same amount of residents, which is why they typically have roughly the same amount of students. Just about every realignment that I’ve seen a student census, the difference between their high school student bodies has been roughly a hundred students (~7% of total student population) or less. Some years PN-G has been bigger, some years Nederland has been bigger. Demographically, the two districts are almost indistinguishable from each other. I can’t believe I’m about to say this. Smitty has a point here.

I hear you. Marshall will be talented, as always. I recognize that Marshall has a great shot at another district crown. We've got talent coming up the ranks, too. A lot of the younger talent saw a lot of playing time this year, owing to the outstanding job Coach Joseph does of substituting in the reserves to keep the starters fresh, and to the six extra games we got in during the playoffs. Three key differences between when we met Marshall the first time in September and when we met Marshall two and a half weeks ago. First, the district game was at Marshall, whereas the playoff game was at a neutral site with a whole lot more PN-G fans in the stands. Second, when we played Marshall the first time this year, our kids hadn't fully bought into Coach Joseph's system yet. They definitely did so by the time we met Marshall in the playoffs. Third, we played Marshall the first time at 1 PM on a Saturday afternoon. The temperature on the field was well over 100 degrees, and according to my sources, Marshall only provided the visiting team with eight cases of water. Knowing those differences, let's project next year's game. First, it will be a home game for the Indians with 7-8K PN-G fans in the stands. Second, Joseph will have had a stellar first season and a full offseason to get the kids fully acclimated to his style of play, not to mention better conditioned. Third, it's an evening game, and we practically breathe water in Jefferson County thanks to all that humidity. I like our odds. 😎

Here are my way-too-early predictions. 9-5ADII: PN-G Fort Bend Marshall Dayton Texas City The second and third seeds are interchangeable. Texas City has the talent to do better. We'll see whether they can pair it with the coaching and execution. Until then, I think the Stingarees are the perennial fourth seed. I feel confident the Indians take the district championship next year. Jeff Joseph is building something in Port Neches. And I hate to say this (honestly), but I don't think Nederland will return to its winning ways next year. 10-4ADI: LC-M Lumberton Vidor Livingston Same as 9-5ADII. The top three are interchangeable. LC-M is my dark horse pick to win district next year. This will be Peevey's third season at the helm of the program, and I think we're going to start to see it pay off. 9-4ADII: Silsbee Jasper WO-S H-F I don't enjoy saying this. I don't think we're going to see WO-S at the top of the district again until they bring back the Mustang defense. You know, the real one. Until then, I just don't see Silsbee losing the district crown, or Jasper being dethroned as runner-up. Hamshire-Fannett could fall out of the playoff line-up, but I suspect we'll see the Longhorns turn into the recurring fourth seed in this district. I'm still debating the 6A and 5ADI standings. I only feel confident saying two things at this time: (1) PAM will be a contender as always (and I really hope they make a deeper run next year); and (2) I don't think West Brook or United will make much noise.

If the issue is attendance, then let's address the issues underlying declining attendance. In sum: The increasing popularity of watching livestreams and broadcasts of the games, instead of actually going to them. Distance, both with respect to convenience and to the costs of transportation and lodging. Weather, which is less of an issue in domed stadiums but still factors into travel. Rotating locations probably isn't going to address all of those issues very well. If you move the championship games from AT&T to NRG and you have another year where four greater D-FW area schools are playing in four out of twelve championship games, you're probably going to see even lower attendance. Will shorter drives for greater Houston-area schools improve their attendance numbers? Probably. Enough to offset the losses among Dallas-area fans, overall? That's anybody's guess, but I'm skeptical. I know the UIL will never do this, but if the UIL really wants to gin up attendance numbers, reinstitute the ban on live broadcasts of the games. Make going to the game the only option to see the game in realtime. Regarding location, I think the smart play by the UIL would be to contract with multiple stadiums across the state, like AT&T, NRG, the Alamodome, DKR and Kyle Field, and assign championship sites based on which locations are the closest to being equidistant from the two high schools competing in each game. Would that improve attendance numbers? Probably in some games (I guarantee you that playing in Houston or College Station would have increased PN-G's already impressive numbers from last Friday), but I'm skeptical that it would increase attendance across the board. Either way, I suspect it would reduce the cost borne by most of the involved schools to get their students to the games, and generally make it easier on traveling families. Again, I know it's something the UIL will probably never do because of the cost to itself, the problems that would cause with respect to media coverage and the UIL's obvious preference for broadcasting games.

I really hated seeing Katy lose to Vandegrift last week, partly because I’m a Gary Joseph fan and partly because I just don’t like the Vandegrift faculty I’ve had to deal with in the past. But, my first thought on seeing that was that PN-G had just gotten a new assistant coach for the week, and I’m looking forward to seeing what he helps the Indians cook up. 😎

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Before we close this chapter, a great video of the crowd going absolutely wild as time expired last Friday:

Y'all are welcome to join the PN-G crowd! I have a few cousins in Orangefield that made it to the Brenham and Fort Bend Marshall games. Trying to get them to come to Dallas, too.

I was taught Cherokee my first day of Kindergarten at Woodcrest in 1998. Still know it. In those days, they handed all the kids a picture of an Indian and a purple crayon.

Should be in the ticket thread now.

Port Neches-Groves Indians vs. South Oak Cliff Golden Bears 7 PM, Friday, December 16, 2022 AT&T Stadium, Arlington, Texas PRICE: $20 per tickets for all 12/16 championship games; $15 per ticket for PN-G game only (use discount code 5ADIIN). LINK: [Hidden Content] *** ALL TICKET SALES ARE ONLINE ONLY; NO TICKETS WILL BE SOLD AT THE GATE *** *** TICKETS ARE GENERAL ADMISSION ONLY *** All of Southeast Texas is welcome on the PN-G side of the field. Let's show this state what real fan support looks like in high school football. See y'all in Dallas!

UPDATE: PN-G HAS SOLD OUT ITS TICKET ALLOTMENT!! Tickets are still available on the Liberty Hill side, though. Just saying. 😉 [Hidden Content]

UPDATE: PN-G HAS SOLD OUT ITS TICKET ALLOTMENT!! Tickets are still available on the Liberty Hill side, though. Just saying. 😉 [Hidden Content]

One last post to fire everybody up before we all hit the road. See y'all in Katy!

Brought to you courtesy of @Mr. Buddy Garrity: Alright folks, listen up. As of a few hours ago, PN-G had sold nearly 90% of the seats on the visitor’s side and was down to well under a thousand tickets remaining. We are fully expected to sell the remainder of our tickets before kickoff tomorrow. In anticipation of that sellout crowd tomorrow, Katy ISD is opening up overflow accommodations. REMEMBER: YOU CANNOT BUY TICKETS AT THE GATE. All ticket sales are online. You can purchase them at the following link for $10 apiece: [Hidden Content] Show up tomorrow, be loud, be proud, be everything the Southeast Texas is known across the state of Texas for. This is history in the making. Let’s go win a state championship berth! #AlwaysBeFaithful