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[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="839897" timestamp="1283710503"] [quote author=PN-G bandkid link=topic=72455.msg839884#msg839884 date=1283709346] 1. Port Neches-Groves Indians 2. Lumberton Raiders 3. Nederland Bulldogs 4. Little-Cypress Mauriceville Bears 5. Beaumont Ozen Panthers 6. Vidor Pirates 7. Beaumont Central Jaguars 8. Livingston Lions This is VERY tentative. The only spot I feel confident about is #1 (;D). Vidor and Ozen have both greatly surprised me, and Lumberton seems to be tearing up the preseason. Nederland was off to a rocky start against WO-S, but the Mustangs are always good (look at their game against Friendswood) and I expect the Bulldogs to improve as their replacement QB gets acclimated. LC-M has improved, as I expected they would, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were actually in the #3 spot at the end of district play. I have Livingston listed as eighth because I honestly don't know much about them and I need to see more preseason information before I decide to move them up in my own personal ranking. BMTSoulja1, what's going on with the Jags? I know y'all are better than the scores indicate, and the poor performances against WB and PAM are the only reason I have y'all listed so low. What's the deal? [/quote]Hard to tell.  If we are just not that good or PAM and Brook is that good.  I'm going to say that our two 5a schools are the real deal.  You've seen Memorial in that scrimmage.  You saw how they moved the ball up and down the field and had yall on many 3 and outs... [/quote] I unfortunately couldn't attend the scrimmage between PN-G and Memorial. West Brook and Memorial are both going to be good 5A teams this year, but Ozen performed better than Central in their games against them. Is Ozen just better these days?

28-14 PN-G

1. Port Neches-Groves Indians 2. Lumberton Raiders 3. Nederland Bulldogs 4. Little Cypress-Mauriceville Bears 5. Beaumont Ozen Panthers 6. Vidor Pirates 7. Beaumont Central Jaguars 8. Livingston Lions This is VERY tentative. The only spot I feel confident about is #1 (;D). Vidor and Ozen have both greatly surprised me, and Lumberton seems to be tearing up the preseason. Nederland was off to a rocky start against WO-S, but the Mustangs are always good (look at their game against Friendswood) and I expect the Bulldogs to improve as their replacement QB gets acclimated. LC-M has improved, as I expected they would, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were actually in the #3 spot at the end of district play. I have Livingston listed as eighth because I honestly don't know much about them and I need to see more preseason information before I decide to move them up in my own personal ranking. BMTSoulja1, what's going on with the Jags? I know y'all are better than the scores indicate, and the poor performances against WB and PAM are the only reason I have y'all listed so low. What's the deal?

[quote name="brenhambaseball" post="836070" timestamp="1283304884"] [quote author=PN-G bandkid link=topic=72184.msg836049#msg836049 date=1283303554] [quote author=brenhambaseball link=topic=72184.msg835507#msg835507 date=1283229954] [quote author=PN-G bandkid link=topic=72184.msg835481#msg835481 date=1283227223] [quote author=brenhambaseball link=topic=72184.msg835448#msg835448 date=1283224545] [quote author=brenhambaseball link=topic=72184.msg835377#msg835377 date=1283220105] [quote author=PNGFan link=topic=72184.msg835327#msg835327 date=1283216813] [quote author=brenhambaseball link=topic=72184.msg835244#msg835244 date=1283210027] [quote author=paintballove link=topic=72184.msg835228#msg835228 date=1283208835] Too many PNG fans on here.  :P PNG 21, Crosby 28. That's right, I said it.  :D [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D THANK YOU  ;) [/quote] Who really cares what you think!!!  Can Blue Bell make you guys your on website? [/quote] why do yall always bring something up about blue bell that must be yalls only comeback thats all yall did last year about how yall were gonna make are ice cream melt on yalls message board then we showed yall up and yall shut yalls mouth cause yall figured out how bad yall are. ??? :D ;) [/quote] Oh so your saying that yall are better than us cause you just said most of the players did their worst agianst us so if they would had played decent yall would had beat us and if yalls players did great yall would had blowed us out  ??? ??? :D ;) [/quote] I'm not saying we would have "blowed you out," but we gave you a pretty big run for your money two days after losing a student athlete. In my opinion, you don't have much to brag about aside six points. [/quote] ok im not bragging? i commented on a different person post and you just come in our convo talking blue bell mess thats all yall do it talk mess i didnt start nothing i posted my prediction and since im from brenham i get ppl talking mess about blue bell.. am i right??? ??? ??? :( [/quote] First of all, I didn't say a word about Blue Bell. Even if I had, it would be because I like the stuff, not because it's made in Brenham. Second, people make fun of PN-G for being covered in refineries. Making fun of other communities based on their unique qualities is just part of high school football. Third, my only point was that we weren't really all that "bad," as you put it. Brenham only outscored PN-G for the first half, and barely hung on to win. The Cubs may have gone home the losers had it not been for an interception in the last two or three minutes of the game. [/quote] kid im not even talk to you this is a what im talking about yall just jump in a win is a win period [/quote] This is a messageboard. The point is to "jump in" and comment. If you weren't talking to me, why'd you quote me?

[quote name="brenhambaseball" post="835507" timestamp="1283229954"] [quote author=PN-G bandkid link=topic=72184.msg835481#msg835481 date=1283227223] [quote author=brenhambaseball link=topic=72184.msg835448#msg835448 date=1283224545] [quote author=brenhambaseball link=topic=72184.msg835377#msg835377 date=1283220105] [quote author=PNGFan link=topic=72184.msg835327#msg835327 date=1283216813] [quote author=brenhambaseball link=topic=72184.msg835244#msg835244 date=1283210027] [quote author=paintballove link=topic=72184.msg835228#msg835228 date=1283208835] Too many PNG fans on here.  :P PNG 21, Crosby 28. That's right, I said it.  :D [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D THANK YOU  ;) [/quote] Who really cares what you think!!!  Can Blue Bell make you guys your on website? [/quote] why do yall always bring something up about blue bell that must be yalls only comeback thats all yall did last year about how yall were gonna make are ice cream melt on yalls message board then we showed yall up and yall shut yalls mouth cause yall figured out how bad yall are. ??? :D ;) [/quote] Oh so your saying that yall are better than us cause you just said most of the players did their worst agianst us so if they would had played decent yall would had beat us and if yalls players did great yall would had blowed us out  ??? ??? :D ;) [/quote] I'm not saying we would have "blowed you out," but we gave you a pretty big run for your money two days after losing a student athlete. In my opinion, you don't have much to brag about aside from six points. [/quote] ok im not bragging? i commented on a different person post and you just come in our convo talking blue bell mess thats all yall do it talk mess i didnt start nothing i posted my prediction and since im from brenham i get ppl talking mess about blue bell.. am i right??? ??? ??? :( [/quote] First of all, I didn't say a word about Blue Bell. Even if I had, it would be because I like the stuff, not because it's made in Brenham. Second, people make fun of PN-G for being covered in refineries. Making fun of other communities based on their unique qualities is just part of high school football. Third, my only point was that we weren't really all that "bad," as you put it. Brenham only outscored PN-G for the first half, and barely hung on to win. The Cubs may have gone home the losers had it not been for an interception in the last two or three minutes of the game.

[quote name="brenhambaseball" post="835448" timestamp="1283224545"] [quote author=brenhambaseball link=topic=72184.msg835377#msg835377 date=1283220105] [quote author=PNGFan link=topic=72184.msg835327#msg835327 date=1283216813] [quote author=brenhambaseball link=topic=72184.msg835244#msg835244 date=1283210027] [quote author=paintballove link=topic=72184.msg835228#msg835228 date=1283208835] Too many PNG fans on here.  :P PNG 21, Crosby 28. That's right, I said it.  :D [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D THANK YOU  ;) [/quote] Who really cares what you think!!!  Can Blue Bell make you guys your on website? [/quote] why do yall always bring something up about blue bell that must be yalls only comeback thats all yall did last year about how yall were gonna make are ice cream melt on yalls message board then we showed yall up and yall shut yalls mouth cause yall figured out how bad yall are. ??? :D ;) [/quote] Oh so your saying that yall are better than us cause you just said most of the players did their worst agianst us so if they would had played decent yall would had beat us and if yalls players did great yall would had blowed us out  ??? ??? :D ;) [/quote] I'm not saying we would have "blowed you out," but we gave you a pretty big run for your money two days after losing a student athlete. In my opinion, you don't have much to brag about aside from six points.

[quote name="brenhambaseball" post="835377" timestamp="1283220105"] [quote author=PNGFan link=topic=72184.msg835327#msg835327 date=1283216813] [quote author=brenhambaseball link=topic=72184.msg835244#msg835244 date=1283210027] [quote author=paintballove link=topic=72184.msg835228#msg835228 date=1283208835] Too many PNG fans on here.  :P PNG 21, Crosby 28. That's right, I said it.  :D [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D THANK YOU  ;) [/quote] Who really cares what you think!!!  Can Blue Bell make you guys your on website? [/quote] why do yall always bring something up about blue bell that must be yalls only comeback thats all yall did last year about how yall were gonna make are ice cream melt on yalls message board then we showed yall up and yall shut yalls mouth cause yall figured out how bad yall are. ??? :D ;) [/quote] How bad we are, huh? We came within a touchdown of beating an eventual state finalist after one of the worst weeks that any of those players had experienced during their time in high school. Yeah, that's pretty bad alright.... ::)

[b]Memorial  [/b] @  Ozen Central  @ [b]West Brook[/b] Barbers Hill  @ [b]Lumberton[/b] Crosby  @  [b]Port Neches-Groves[/b] Goose Creek @  [b]Nederland[/b] [b]Livingston  [/b] @ Jasper Nacogdoches @ [b]LC-M[/b] [b]Anahuac  [/b] @  Hamshire-Fannett [b]Buna  [/b] @  Orangefield Cleveland  @ [b]Silsbee[/b] [b]Hardin  [/b] @ Tarkington Newton @ [b]Kirbyville[/b] [b]Splendora [/b] @ Hardin-Jefferson West Orange-Stark @ [b]Friendswood[/b] [b]Woodville [/b] @ Sheppard Deweyville  @ [b]Evadale[/b] [b]Groveton [/b] @ Warren [b]Colmesneil [/b] @ High Island [b]West Hardin [/b] @ Sabine Pass [b]Vidor [/b] @ Bridge City

[font=Times New Roman][size=36pt][b]Indians Finally Return From San Antonio[/b][/size] [size=16pt]Tribe Breaks Through I-10 Traffic Just In Time to Realize that Cougars are Still Stuck In It; Crosby Forfeits[/size] [/font]

[b]Central[/b] @ PA Memorial Ozen @ [b]West Brook[/b] Gregory-Portland @ [b]Port Neches-Groves[/b] Jasper @ [b]Lumberton[/b] [b]Silsbee[/b] @ Houston Waltrip Vidor @ [b]Texas High[/b] [b]West Orange-Stark[/b] @ Nederland (although I'm rooting for the Bulldogs) [b]Dayton[/b] @ Fort Bend Elkins [b]Santa Fe[/b] @ Barbers Hill [b]Hamshire-Fannett[/b] @ Splendora Hardin-Jefferson @ [b]Huffman[/b] [b]Kirbyville[/b] @ Coldspring [b]Liberty[/b] @ Hardin Orangefield @ [b]East Chambers[/b] Shepherd @ [b]Bridge City[/b] Houston Kinkaid @ [b]Anahuac[/b] Kountze @ [b]Hull-Daisetta[/b] Sabine Pass @ [b]Deweyville[/b] Warren @ [b]West Hardin[/b] Woodville @ [b]Corrigan Camden[/b]

[quote name="scooter!" post="828385" timestamp="1282362694"] what's the top 3 things your team (or teams) need to do to reach state? [/quote] 1. Learn how to win in pre-season. 2. Win in district play. 3. Win the first five rounds of the playoffs. And BAM! You've got a ticket to Dallas.

[font=Times New Roman][size=36pt]Wildcats Not So "Wild" Anymore[/size] [size=16pt]G-P Cats Sent Back to Litter-box Wearing Purple Collar; Cats Everywhere Now Must Scoop Own Poop[/size] [size=16pt]Dan Hooks Finally Showing Age as Slightly Younger Larry Neumann Finally Beats 'Stangs; WO-CCISD Board Disappointed, Plans to Protest Local Bar To Solve Problem[/size] [size=16pt]Jags Over Titans; Cats Everywhere Re-Earn Right to Have Poop Scooped by Humans[/size] [size=16pt]Vidor Finally Gets Away from "Cupcake" Pre-Season Schedule, Wishes it Hadn't[/size] [size=16pt]OZEN BEATS WB... Because Bruins' Side of Butch Stadium Falls In On Itself; WB Team Somewhere Under Rubble[/size] [/font]

[quote name="A Bear's Bear" post="825165" timestamp="1281718564"] [quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=71118.msg825147#msg825147 date=1281714170] No, I mean several sports, but the most notable for both schools baseball and football. Baseball we smacked LCM 9-0, 7-3. Then we went deep in the playoffs beating Magnolia that put ya'll out. Football we were district champs, went to the playoffs (Where was LCM?) and lost to the Finalist Brenham Cubs. I have an extra purple shirt for you since you love to talk about PNG so much ;) [/quote] So, last year, PNG finished higher in 1. Football 2. Baseball 3. Girl's Track 4. Boy's Soccer 5. Girl's Soccer 6. UIL (PNG won district, LCM finished second) LCM finished higher in 1. Volleyball 2. Boy's Basketball 3. Girl's Basketball 4. Boy's Track 5. Girl's Golf 6. Girl's Powerlifting Both teams tied with Nederland for 1st place in Softball Obviously, this is not a complete list, because I don't know about the more obscure sports (tennis, swimming, cross-country) or how PNG did in boys powerlifting. But I'd gladly accept the shirt, because I don't like messing up rags when I'm drying the tires on my truck!  ;D [/quote] PN-G also outplayed LC-M in Boy's Golf. ;D But, to be fair, LC-M also beat PN-G at the Area round of band competition... although we tied you at Region and beat you at Concert & Sightreading. ;D

[quote name="tvc184" post="823345" timestamp="1281104580"] They should all be the same no matter that activity. I am not sure about the being held to a "higher standard" though. They should just live to the standard of other students, not higher. The standard for society and students should be that you aren't out breaking the law by robbing the local store, selling dope, etc. If other students need to be to class on time, UIL participants should not be made to be there 10 minutes early. No need for the "higher standard", just "the standard". [/quote] I disagree. Extra-curricular activities require a huge amount of time and dedication. Band, football, volleyball, drill team, and cheerleader practice all start 2-4 weeks before the first day of school. UIL Academics groups and other sports teams all have regularly scheduled practices before and after school. Sponsors and students alike don't like putting in all that work just to be embarrassed by one person. Besides that, these students represent the school and ultimately the community behind it. I don't know how things work at other schools, but at PN-G, that is taken VERY seriously. I have seen students sent home from UIL meets for being five to ten minutes late and band members run ten or more laps for things that most people would consider miniscule. It's simple. If you put on the uniform, you live by a higher code. If you choose not to live up to those standards, you will be disciplined and possibly cut from the program. Now obviously, small things like a speeding ticket aren't going to get you into trouble with the school, but I wouldn't get into too much trouble beyond that.

[quote name="hatethatpurple!" post="821657" timestamp="1280373646"] [quote author=PNGFan link=topic=69558.msg821188#msg821188 date=1280268525] [quote author=hatethatpurple! link=topic=69558.msg820208#msg820208 date=1279998766] [quote author=biaplayer link=topic=69558.msg817509#msg817509 date=1278866090] well lets see my picks for the upcoming season in no certain order; PNG lcm central ned you can take that to the bank, vidor might sneak in there for the fourth spot, not sure as of yet. I think LCM is up and coming with their new coach they have a 3 year starter at qb which is a big + and a good receiver corp, dont really no about their running game. As Soulja1 said dont really put much stock into 7-7 game it is more a timing tool with QB and receivers and good tool for db to practice covering their man, but until you get 11-11 it dont really mean a dang thing just fun to watch. Ned is iffy with noone really knowing which qb is gonna immerge to take control, injuries have hurt the dogs as of the last few years. Ozen dont know much about  them except that they always have talent according to the bmt faithful, Central always tough  speed speed and speed what can you say, but you can beat speed with discipline and patience, AS for the lions, well you just aint gonna win district with  a running game, you need to throw the ball, have a hard hitting stingy defense, and special teams to boot, sorry just dont see you making any noise ;[ The L train lost their steam for their  engine dont see them in the mix except that they may return to the cellar once again Then last but least their is my ndns, jv went 10-0 also , we have a solid group returning, everyone saying we cant replace Harmon, well hate to tell you but mr Bertrand is gonna be here two years and he will be every bit if not more exciting than Harmon was. Doty has a year of experience under his belt and should be a deep ball threat everytime he throws the ball  but i think it is his short passing game that is his strong point, Defense is where we look the weakest at being that we are looking for all the dbs  but with our coaching staff i dont think that will be a problem. I look for us to be in the mix but as everyone knows 10 - 0 was a terrific accomplishment but being realistic i dont see them doing that again [/quote] I'm liking this. LCM's running game will be alot better than last year with a good RB corp, and the defense will step up to stop the run ALOT more than last year, you can count on that! They will still have a couple players going both ways, but with more depth this year there will be more rest time for those players. I say LCM takes 2nd or 3rd in district. The PN-G game will be the test! [/quote] Coach Crouch will have the Bears ready to play. They'll be much improved. They gave us a big test last year. And why do you hate that purple? [/quote] Because it's EVERYWHERE. Watching the game at the Res was wild [/quote] You're just jealous. ;)

There's a very simple way out of this. According to the 2010 Texas Fact Book (link posted below) Texas allots about $75 Billion to education annually. Relatively speaking, $800 Million is a drop in the bucket. Now, currently, the state has a $2 Billion deficit, but Governor Perry issued an order for all departments to cut 5% of their budget. That's a grand total of $9.1 Billion in savings, which puts us in a $7.1 Billion surplus by year's end. If Governor Perry was smart, he would take $800 Million from that surplus and throw it into education. Texas schools would still open as scheduled, Congress would look like the bad guy, and our state officials would come out smelling like a rose. [Hidden Content]

[b]1. Beaumont Central Jaguars[/b] They want revenge and we know it. This will be the toughest game for the Indians outside of the playoffs. This team may very well be undefeated marching into the Reservation on November 5th. [b]2. Gregory-Portland Wildcats[/b] I don't know much about this year's team, but from what I've read, last year's team was pretty good and they return several players. In addition, it's the first game of the year and we're playing in the Alamodome. That brings a whole new level of anxiety to the field that they can capitalize on. [b]3. Nederland Bulldogs[/b] It's Mid-County Madness. Anything can happen. [b]4. Texas City Stingarees[/b] A powerhouse team from a powerhouse district looking for a little payback after last year's 22-16 overtime loss. [b]5. Crosby Cougars[/b] Last year's 19-4A district champion team will be looking to avenge that pre-season 37-7 loss. [b]6. Little Cypress-Mauriceville Bears[/b] Another team looking for a little payback after last year's 27-20 nail-biter (the second-closest game in district play for PN-G). [b]7. Beaumont Ozen Panthers[/b] This team always has a lot of speed, second perhaps only to Central in 20-4A. Speed was a weakness for PN-G last year, and I expect that they'll be disciplined and trained enough to use it this year. [b]8. Lumberton Raiders[/b] A team with some talent that's looking to restore its short-lived glory and grab a playoff spot. [b]9. Vidor Pirates[/b] Another team looking to keep the good times rolling. Although inexperienced, this team normally has some talent and shouldn't be overlooked. [b]10. Livingston Lions[/b] Quinton Jackson stayed on his feet all the way across the stage at Livingston's graduation last year, but his team may be laid flat on the ground without him. [b]Prediction:[/b] The Indians are walking into football season with a big target on their backs, having defeated nine of the ten opponents they are scheduled to play this year in the memorable 2009 season. That being said, our team has shown that they are capable of overcoming almost any obstacle and performing miracles on the field. In addition, many of our starters return from last year's varsity team and all open positions are to be filled with players from last year's undefeated JV team. So, without further adieu: The Indians go 10-0 at best (hey, we've done it before ;D) and 8-2 at worst.

I remember the 1999 4A-DII state championship being played there. I don't remember much about it, but one thing I do remember is the sea of purple you could see as you entered the stadium (that leaves a big imprint on the mind of an elementary school student). I also remember those stupid noisemakers that Stephenville brought to try and drown out Cherokee. It was funny to me because, by the end of the game, not only could you still clearly hear the band, they were beating their drums and propane tanks in beat with our fight song.

[quote name="badndn" post="815065" timestamp="1277755918"] [quote author=PN-G bandkid link=topic=70734.msg815061#msg815061 date=1277755114] 2009 PN-G vs. Central (25-22 PN-G, 2 OT) 2009 PN-G vs. Texas City (22-16 PN-G, OT) 2009 PN-G vs. Barbers Hill I (21-20 PN-G) 2008 PN-G vs. Crosby (28-27 PN-G) [/quote] The Central game is the only one in which PNG was down inside a minute and came back to win. The others were the opposite. PNG was up and held on to win. Crosby was a second half push to take the lead, but not a score within a minute. The one that stands out the most outside of the Central game is that 1999 victory over Schertz Clemens at Kyle Field. RC Slocum said that series made him a D. Long believer and he offered shortly after. [/quote] I seem to remember our last touchdown at the Crosby game coming at the very last second. As for Texas City, we may not have been behind in the last minute of the game, but we weren't ahead, either, and I believe that Barbers Hill was ahead until we made the final touchdown of the game and scored with the PAT, although that may not have been in the last minute of the game. Then again, I could be wrong. That was a while back and I tend to catch the last few minutes of each game intermittently due to certain responsibilities I have to the band.

2009 PN-G vs. Central (25-22 PN-G, 2 OT) 2009 PN-G vs. Texas City (22-16 PN-G, OT) 2009 PN-G vs. Barbers Hill I (21-20 PN-G) 2008 PN-G vs. Crosby (28-27 PN-G)

[quote name="BORAM" post="812469" timestamp="1276545459"] I don't recall what DCTF predictions were for last year, was last years even close?  But it is just a prediction....only time will tell.  ;D [/quote] No. They predicted Vidor to take 20-4A, PN-G was ranked third, and I believe (although am not sure) that Lumberton was in the number two slot with either Nederland or Central in fourth. As for this year's prediction, I agree with Nederland's slot. I've also said that PN-G and Central will share the top two spots, but the district title could go either way, so I at least partly agree with Dave Campbell here. However, I just don't see Lumberton taking the fourth spot and there's almost no way I see Ozen ending up in last place. I think Ozen and LC-M will be in the running for the last playoff spot.

[quote name="hatethatpurple!" post="810608" timestamp="1276101524"] LC-M vs. PN-G, first game of district. Heartbreaker for LC-M.  :( [/quote] I guess your screen name fits. ;D

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="811387" timestamp="1276217628"] You bet, the biggest way for this game to be a success is to have The Reservation packed.  The netcast is for us folks, who are out of town and will not be able to make it to the game or see the broadcast on KBTV Fox 4. If I were still in the area, I would be there! [/quote] It's the Reservation. If there are PN-G kids playing football in Indian Stadium, it'll be packed.

Yet again, Dave Campbell ignores Southeast Texas. Nevermind the fact that one of our teams went undefeated through district play to lose to a future state finalist and another team went three rounds deep in the playoffs to lose to a powerhouse. It doesn't matter. Sure, they did all of this with brand new coaches, but that doesn't make them good or anything... And they're certainly not worth a spot on a list of statewide rankings.... ::)

[quote name="w/e2010" post="809145" timestamp="1275678571"] [quote author=A Bear's Bear link=topic=69558.msg809066#msg809066 date=1275659173] [quote author=spoonbill link=topic=69558.msg808699#msg808699 date=1275579255] [quote author=A Bear's Bear link=topic=69558.msg808653#msg808653 date=1275570639] [quote author=spoonbill link=topic=69558.msg808411#msg808411 date=1275490021] [quote author=bigtank_77705 link=topic=69558.msg808379#msg808379 date=1275485749] [quote author=Jaguar-J link=topic=69558.msg808310#msg808310 date=1275445008] 1. Central 2. PNG [b]3. Vidor[/b] 4. Nederland [/quote] you are truely a Vidor fan, these people hardly have anything coming back. [/quote]remind me...what was vidor's jv record last year? [/quote] First, I would also like to know what their JV record record was, but it doesn't matter.  Their JV team had all their sophomores and some juniors due to all the returners on varsity. Second, how could you possibly pick Vidor that high this year, with 3 returning starters!?  And they didn't even finish that high last year! [/quote]the only loss for vidor's jv i believe was to png 50-43 or something. it was a very entertaining game. i also believe vidor has more than 3 returning starters on the team. i look for their running game to still be pretty good with an improved passing game. the new qb has a better arm than last year's qb. there is a back that is pretty quick coming up too. dayton saw him in the playoff game last yr. the o-line is where the questions are, but we'll see. hopefully when the pirates meet up w/ your bears next year y'all can give them a better game. :o [/quote] Geez, sorry.  I would also like to hope that Vidor gives LCM a good game in ANY OTHER SPORT besides football too.  Or at the band or choir competitions.  Or at the academic UIL meet.  But we can only hope... [/quote] not to get off topic but vidor band of bands went to area f marching comp last year and lcm band was there and the vidor band beat them out as well as every other band in this area so you are also wrong bout the band [/quote] True, but for the record, LC-M surpassed Vidor by 100+ points at the district UIL competition.