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PNG vs SOC State Championship Game Thread/Post updates here
#1stangfan replied to Reagan's topic in High School Football
I understand that to be consistent you need both my friend -
PNG vs SOC State Championship Game Thread/Post updates here
#1stangfan replied to Reagan's topic in High School Football
Not certain why most of your posts go to discrediting coaching on every side…insisting it is all the players. I can assure you folks/fans on our side of the fence know the difference in good coaching with athletes and having athletes without coaching. GREAT WIN PNG -
PNG vs SOC State Championship Game Thread/Post updates here
#1stangfan replied to Reagan's topic in High School Football
A war of nutrition ??? A new take. -
They need to make a change and it is HH. I don’t know that any assistant with upside wants the risk that this regime brings with it. Then in the event they do move on from HH, those coaches have risked a lot for one year and probably a season they don’t want to put on their resume.
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I know of a school that knew how to stop it……but recent HC/DC at the same school couldn’t stop a tear with a tissue.
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Bellville (49) @ West Orange-Stark (7) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
I wouldn’t bank on it. I’m sure he will be around for a while. The SPT isn’t concerned about the football program. -
Silsbee (20) @ West Orange-Stark (6) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
I’m sure he had to quit watching last year. To even call this a “defense” is generous. However, this is what the program needed🙄 -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
I don’t think he is going anywhere. The spt wanted something and got it. The SPT can justify the “success” by making the playoffs each year. I wish it weren’t so… -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Ummmm kudos to Newton……but the weakness they found was coaching -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Won’t happen. There is a new definition of “success” at the helm now. -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
But it’s still not good football. Might as well just watch a track meet -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Fun game?? This is an abomination and not good football on either side. -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
One thing I’ve noticed is that teams didn’t hang 50 points on WOS. -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
WOS was based on tradition, silver helmets pursuit etc…according to the new coach there is more to football than that. I can only assume this is part of the new process.🙄 -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Is anyone really shocked?? -
Well, for one it sure costs a lot less money to bus the kids 20 minutes down the road. I can’t speak for now but in the past many of the players now each other from church, family, community etc and they look forward to the game. What is the reasoning for NOT playing the game? What is LCM going to gain from playing another opponent? Are you asking for a stronger or weaker opponent than LCM? There was a small window where this game was not played.
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Well I think it’s safe to say that no one is afraid of either team stealing state titles at this point but the season is young. Folks do get hyped up sometimes when there is a week one blowout. Happened to WOS last year. Beat Nederland by a landslide and shut them out. Many thought the program was still on track.
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West Orange-Stark (40) @ Nederland (34) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
I guess no one read the article or saw my post. Hickman basically said we have to do away with all of that old stuff and do new stuff to move “forward”. His definition of forward is a moonwalk thus far. -
West Orange-Stark (40) @ Nederland (34) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Anyone read the OrangeLeader article where the coach (paraphrasing) said “all they know is team pursuit, silver helmets, defense and traditions”. Well, they are getting indoctrinated to a few more experiences now. -
Right but to his point, these conversations happened back then whether you felt they might leave or not. Just WHEN it happened, unless WOS got lucky, decline was inevitable. like you said, I don’t think anyone saw this level of dysfunction. I expected a step back and gradual decline if someone didn’t step up....but not a full backwards sprint.
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And not just retirement. This was a staff that had been on a nice run since ‘85 and had opportunities outside of Orange Texas.
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I don’t think that is what he was saying. And I will further read his mind and say it wasn’t exactly 30 years....just a rough number. There were folks back then that didn’t like how Hooks and CT ran things. Definitely not folks from surrounding communities who had a ton of theories and people could say whatever and you didn’t have Google handy to put them in check. Anyway, I digress....what was generally stated was this: “When Hooks and CT do ride off into the sunset, the program will likely go into decline”. Everyone that followed closely knew that WOS had talent but it was the coaching and program installed gave WOS something extra. There had been rumors of Hooks retiring a little before the ‘92 season....so yeah, those conversations happened.