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Isadore Isn't 6', hes 5'8" I've stood next to him and I've messured 5'11" 3/4 at a NIKE combine and haven't grown any since then. Plus Dave Campbell's hasn't been accurate in along time. You can whine all you want but if he was as good as you say then the coaches would have voted him first team last year over beard. This year when Ozen played Lumberton Beard went 11 for 104 and 3 TDs. Hughes went 12 for 82 and when Ozen needed to stop Lumberton they couldnt do it.

Isadore is a good player but hes not a manchild, hes not the best LB in the district. Probably not the best in beaumont so let it rest. you started the thread because you want to hype him up. Well Ozen is the 2nd worse defense in the district and hes the Leader. Lumberton is the best defense and Beard is the Leader. And dont tell me Lumberton is just loaded with talent because everyone knows on signing day Ozen will have more kids sign college scholarships. Lumberton will have 3 kids sign this year and then Beard for sure next year.

your arguments weak go take it somewhere else

I said I liked Hanna for MVP and your coaches turned in those numbers so I'm guessing they're right. if you think Grogan and Cardansas are more worthy for OMVP then I'll agree with you then. I've only seen Nederland 3 times so I'll go with you on that one. I would probably go with Grogan over Cardanas because Ive seen Jude Virdine really step up this year and selenga play well along with Brady.

tvc way to make your point  :.  ozenfinest your pushing isadore because hes family not because hes the best defensive player in the district.

MVP Hanna (plays every down of the game, is the districts leading rusher, tied for the lead in scoring with 13TDs, has 9 sacks so far)

OMVP Bellows (Nederland went 7-3 last year with no TB. Grogan helps him but not as much as he helps Grogan. If you dont believe me go watch Grogan run against 5 man fronts every game)

DMVP Beard (this district is a run first district. Go check the numbers. If it was a pass first District then I would say Harris)

ozenfinest its not about where these kids are going to college but if you wanna argue that then Beard will have better offers then isadore. Beard jumped 20 spots in the last LSR 100 to #46. Ketch has already said the 2010 class is more talented than 2009. Isadore is currently ranked #88 in the 2009 class.

And Grogan doesnt have 1000 yards in 6 games. your coaches turn those numbers in take off the gold and black glasses and listen to logic.

Tackles doesnt mean your the best Defensive player.

Hanna has a much better case for MVP and Offensive MVP than anyone else. he unlike Grogan plays every down of defense in the trenches rushing the passer as a DE. Rushing the passer is the most tiring thing to do in football. He also is the leading rusher in 20-4A and is a better running back. he does all his work without a passing game. if you watch Lumberton games you see 8 and 9 man fronts. Grogan sees 5 and 6 man fronts. Plus hes the 2nd best player on the #1 defense in the district. Hanna also has 8 catches for 97 yards

Harris stats are 17 of 45 passing 294 yards 3 TDs  8 INTS

rushing 40 for 237  5.93 ypc 4TDs

Defense 7 pics

he might have a better case for defensive MVP but hes the 4th leading rusher on his own Team. his team doesnt lean on him like Lumberton leans on Hanna or Nederland leans on Bellows. Grogan isnt the same back without Bellow as his QB ethier

Harris/Bellow is Offensive MVP

Beard is Defensive MVP

Att: Rushing attempts Yds: Rushing yards

Yds/Att: Rushing yards per attempt TD: Rushing touchdowns

Name Team Att Yds Yds/Att TD

Jacob Hanna Lumberton 128 901 7.04 13

Wareall Grogan Nederland 102 746 7.31 11

Theron Reynolds Vidor 93 637 6.85 4

Joshua Wright Port Neches-Groves 105 637 6.07 8

James White Beaumont Ozen 123 618 5.02 3

Caleb Harmon Port Neches-Groves 95 579 6.09

I dont see isadore as a Defensive MVP canidate because Ozen has given up

50 BMT WB

22 PA

31 Ned

41 Liv

14 Vid

27 Lumb

36 Bmt Cent

26 PNG

Only one game under 20 points.

Name Team Comp Att Pct Yds TD INT

Kirby Bellow Nederland 74 141 52.48 1,165 13 3

Harrison Tatum Port Neches-Groves 63 119 52.94 892 7 7

Marquis Moore Beaumont Ozen 53 116 45.69 683 9 8

Ryan Hughes Lumberton 29 69 42.03 429 2 5

Mike Richard Beaumont Central 22 42 52.38 381 4 1

Dustin Harris Livingston 17 45 37.78 294 3 8

Hunter Gonzales LC-M 29 67 43.28 268 0 6

Terrell Durham Beaumont Ozen 14 29 48.28 229 2 3

Chris Teinert Vidor 15 38 39.47 195 1 3

theirs passing stats too

Razor i like everything but isadore. Ozen has given up way to many points in district.

except i would also say Harris needs to get something

regardless what happens this is just a discussion thread. Nederland I think could have 2 guys up for Offensive MVP and one up for MVP.

Bellows could be up for both and Grogan could be up for Offensive. I could see Bellows getting ethier but the reason I would say Hanna should be the favorite for MVP is because he sits out anywhere from 3 to 10 plays a game. thats it. hes the leading rusher in the district and Lumberton doesnt throw the ball so people stack the box. Defensively he has around 8 to 10 sacks and around 15-20 TFLs

Harris for Livingston is in the same boat so I would put those 2 guys ahead of Bellows and Grogan. plus regardless what happens at Lumberton you are playing them without Beard so it taints whatever happens there alittle.

Grogan doesnt play defense and has a good passing game to keep defenses from focusing on him. Bellows has the same comfort zone with teams not sitting in nickel and dime coverages the whole game to stop the passing game. just my thoughts though

Coop I think the team should actually have to hold the other team to under 30 points to be considered. You have gave it to guys who's teams have been waffle stomped when their have been better nominees.

canidates in my opinion are.

Offense. Jacob Hanna (I would say probably should be the front runner for MVP) He rarely sits during a game. Hes excellent on both sides of the ball.

Bellows QB Nederland

Harris QB Livingston another guy who should be up for MVP

QB from Central

Defense. Beard LB Lumberton has had the number 1 defense in the district this year and he is the main reason why. its ashame he got hurt but he should have a good recovery and be back strong next year.

Central should have someone up for it because their defense has been very good this year but I just dont know enough about their team.

lol you think PNG runs the wing t? do you know what a football looks like? oh and Liberty Hill won the 3A state title running the wing t last year against gilmer and didnt throw the ball one time. Gilmer had 8 D1 football players on that team and Liberty Hill had 0. Pflugerville went to the state semi's running the wing t. Livingston is tied for 1st running the wing t.

PNG is a pro style team and I think before you can pick a school you have to prove you know what a field looks like.

Field turf is not the same and astro turf. it doesnt grab.

my question is how did they score 36 points

I've played with a few people who have slight tears in there ACL. Not sure how bad Anthonys is but its possible if its a slight tear.

next week I'm putting my self up for Player of the week so yall just get ready because whoever I play will be getting dominated.

not when your team gets beat 36-7

Lumberton 8th grade A 24

Vidor 8th grade A          0

at the half

Lumberton only has one JH

raideroldtimer the kids are still learning the playes in highschool. They start learning the offense in the Jr High and they keep adding to it every year.

Lumberton White beat WOS earlier in the year. its to bad I know both groups wanted to play. stupid hurricanes

1.  Nederland @ Vidor

2.  West Hardin @ Evadale

3.  Livingston @ Central

4.  Sterling @ West Brook

5.  Memorial @ Channelview

6.  Dayton @ CE King

7.  PNG @ Ozen

8.  LCM @ Lumberton

9.  Rusk @ Jasper

10.  WOS @ HJ

11.  Silsbee @ HF

12.  Bridge City @ Orangefield

13.  Coldspring @ Cleveland

14.  San Augustine @ Kirbyville

15.  Newton @ Shelbyville

16.  Hemphill @ Woodville

17.  Buna @ Hardin

18.  Kountze @ EC

19.  HD @ Sabine Pass

20.  High Island @ Chester

21.  Burkeville @ Colmesneil

22.    Texas  @  Texas Tech    just to make it an even number! 

Lumberton Jacob Hanna 25 carries 140 yards game winning TD in overtime and only sat out 2 plays on Defense. had a big stop on 3rd and 1 on PNGs last drive to keep them from getting in FG position. he made the block that sprung Beard on his 80 yard run. I think he gets over looked alot by the fans too for what he does for the team. Extremely unselfish player and I think hes the best football player in 20-4A

Lumberton Anthony Beard 17 carries 135 yards 1 TD. ended up with around 12 tackles 4tfls. Guy got hurt and came back in the game.

cant blame ozenfinest for trying to push for his family.

I say Micheal wins it on O and Beard on D

finalist: Micheal, Hanna, Grogan,  Vilamez(hardin)

finalist: Beard, Reed, James(silsbee), Haynes(wos)

lol I was talking more about the HF over WOS prediction.

there were 2 Lumberton teams that year that made the playoffs and the A team has a few kids who didnt play Senior football and a move in linemen whos the best linemen.

Offensivly they lost Hemmings, both TEs and top 3 WRs