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[quote name="westend1" post="1060320" timestamp="1316400904"] [quote author=77 link=topic=87540.msg1060281#msg1060281 date=1316398445] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1060226#msg1060226 date=1316393956] [quote author=77 link=topic=87540.msg1060218#msg1060218 date=1316393212] If this was anybody in office besides Obama rep. or dem. these people taking up for him would be all over their butt. You cant defend things they are doing no matter how you spin it, this deal with Solyndra company cant be defended the emails from the doe saying they would go broke in sept. and they gave them the money anyway. This has gotten beyond ridiculous. The media has invested to much into this admin. to report the way it should be reported. I guess I'am just a racist because I dont like any of his policies. Nothing they have done since they have been their has helped [b]repair the damage done by the prior administration.[/b] [/quote]  Fixed it for you. [/quote]I agree the last admin.stunk it up too. What they are doing is not helping anyone oh wait yes you can have your kids on your ins. till their 26. They are blowing thru our money quicker than any other ever have, more people on food stamps out of work out of thier house and cant afford anything, so if thats fixin it I guess I,am just wrong...Cloward & Pevin read it and I guess we will wait and see! [/quote] 77.  Nobody knows who Cloward and Pevin were.  How many more posts do we have to endure about a couple of people nobody ever heard of?  Is this all you can come up with? [/quote] Cloward–Piven strategy  ....I've heard of  them...look it up!

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[quote name="77" post="1060170" timestamp="1316389835"] If you like 9% unemployment , higher taxes, higher food and clothing , and higher gas prices, more people on the govt. dole Obama is your man ! [/quote] ;D

[quote name="westend1" post="1060042" timestamp="1316380948"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1059900#msg1059900 date=1316373329] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1059879#msg1059879 date=1316371467] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1059870#msg1059870 date=1316370622] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1059856#msg1059856 date=1316369561] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=87540.msg1059854#msg1059854 date=1316369049] TB does have the ability to ignore the entire picture and take a snippet out of it. How about this one TB, the Democrats had a super majority for two years. There is nothing that the Republicans could do to stop anything that the Democrats wanted to do. What do we have to show for it? They could have pushed tax increases, tax cuts or whatever else they wanted. They did not even want to submit a budget so the public would not see the tiger in its true stripes. [/quote] Could have, but didn't.  so why do Republicans still cry and fret over guns, taxes etc?  Glen Beck has you guys scared of your own shadow. [/quote] Why do they fret over guns and taxes?  The reason I fret over taxes is because I want the money to be in the hands of someone who knows how to productively deploy it and, contrary to the typical dem belief, it definitely is NOT the government.  I know you lean more the left and I to the right, but can you honestly tell me  you believe that, since the current President took office, that the economic policies have been the right ones? [/quote] Depends, I guess.  Do you mean the tax cut extensions?  Don't see how you argue about that.  How about stimulus.  Just about every economist you read about says stimulus is a tool which should be used to fight off recession.  Was the stimulus the right type?  Don't know.  How bad would things have gotten for the auto industry without the clunker deal and cash bailouts?  We won't ever know.  We do know that expanding the money supply is a proven way to grow the economy.  I assume if the answers were easy, we wouldn't have gone into a recession in the first place. [/quote] So then, can I assume it is your contention that the first "stimulus" merely saved things from being worse and the proposed "stimulus" is the one that will get things going again?  The same "economists" who were involved in crafting the "first stimulus" also said that by now (yes, the quote was the third quarter of 2011) unemployment would be below 8%.  While I understand that expanding the money supply(translation; printing money) is believed to help grow an economy, there is always an eventual price to pay called inflation.( if inflation doesnt scare you , it should - check out1977 when carter took office and inflation was at 6.5% the next year it was 7.62%, the next year it was 11.22% the next year it was 13.58% - In Reagans first term, one year after taking office it was back to 6.16%)  Additionally, history does NOT include any money supply expansion of this magnitude.  The current proposal advocates borrowing more $ to hire teachers, policemen, firemen, and construction workers for infrastructure projects( really does "sound" great).  When those borrowed funds have all been used, what leads you to believe that those "created" jobs will remain in existence?  Some believe that, after those funds have been used, the only thing left will be the debt we "created" and likely wont be able to repay.  And when that day comes, we will then be told that all of these brilliant politicians and economists think that more government involvement is our only hope and, of course, that the "rich" are not paying their fair share.  I am still hoping that the day will come that people will conclude that the government is NOT the solution to all problems, particularly of a financial nature.  Doesnt it ever make  you wonder what would happen if, instead of getting more involved in business, the government just got out of the way and let the markets make the decisions?  Solyndra was spending $6 per solar panel and selling it for $3.  We don't need those types of solutions. [/quote]  Sorry man.  Might could have learned something but it was too long for my attention span. [/quote] Smaller paragraphs nash...know your crowd!  ;D

[quote name="tvc184" post="1057094" timestamp="1316040901"] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=61122.msg1057087#msg1057087 date=1316040597] rip, don't get him started!  ;D I'll just add that big bucks in Texas are nothing new...folks been killing them here long before the 13" rule! OK, I'm done! [/quote] Too late. Yes, I have seen some huge bucks killed in east Texas every year. With the habitat you would think that it would lead the state in trophies but killing a good deer on one lease is not indicative of the area in general. [b]Management is the key but the truth is that a majority in this area are more worried about pulling the trigger than quality.[/b] ;D [/quote] Can't argue with that!

rip, don't get him started!  ;D I'll just add that big bucks in Texas are nothing new...folks been killing them here long before the 13" rule! OK, I'm done!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1052832" timestamp="1315597483"] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=87540.msg1052830#msg1052830 date=1315597172] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87540.msg1052820#msg1052820 date=1315596411] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=87540.msg1052816#msg1052816 date=1315596166] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87540.msg1052806#msg1052806 date=1315595217] LOL! You Repubs are sneaky! Gotta watch you fellas. 80% of the poor had air conditioning. I bet 70% worked for what they owned. [/quote] Just 70%? Shouldn't the other 30% work for it as well? [/quote] Not in [s]our[/s] [b]the entitlement [/b] type of system. The system is geared towards having the poor remain below a certain poverty level, [b]so we can depend on their votes as long as we keep throwing them crumbs now and then![/b][/quote] [/quote]Or the entitlement of getting hired by your friends by re-arranging the applicant questionnaire to fit your job experiences when those new positions become available ;) :o [/quote] Folks need to quit playing the "victim" card!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1052820" timestamp="1315596411"] [quote author=PN-G bamakid link=topic=87540.msg1052816#msg1052816 date=1315596166] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87540.msg1052806#msg1052806 date=1315595217] LOL! You Repubs are sneaky! Gotta watch you fellas. 80% of the poor had air conditioning. I bet 70% worked for what they owned. [/quote] Just 70%? Shouldn't the other 30% work for it as well? [/quote] Not in [s]our[/s] [b]the entitlement [/b] type of system. The system is geared towards having the poor remain below a certain poverty level, [b]so we can depend on their votes as long as we keep throwing them crumbs now and then![/b][/quote]

[quote name="thetragichippy" post="1052767" timestamp="1315592658"] [b]The following are facts about persons defined as "poor" by the Census Bureau, taken from various government reports:[/b]Forty-three percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio. Eighty percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning. Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person. The average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.) Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 31 percent own two or more cars. Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions. Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception. Eighty-nine percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and more than a third have an automatic dishwasher [Hidden Content] [/quote] Greatest country in the world...how else could you describe a place where the poor is so well off? Good post Hippy!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1052755" timestamp="1315592266"] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=87540.msg1052748#msg1052748 date=1315591938] I must have missed the news stories of the kids in a predicament on how they are going to die. In fact, I missed the part about any of them burning or freezing to death. I need to read MSNBC more I guess. [/quote]You're RIGHT!!! You won't find it on Fox ;D [/quote] I think the Huffington Post carried that story...front page!

Congrats to Mr. Beck...awsome accomplishment!

[quote name="tvc184" post="1047148" timestamp="1314996040"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1047138#msg1047138 date=1314995231] I know that times or hard and work is short but he took the job from a fool  that drove the country here and he is having to deal with it as he goes, but you give him no credit and all the blame. [/quote] The last time that the Republicans had control of Congress and the presidency was in 2006. When the Republicans lost control of Congress in December 2006, the unemployment was 4.4% and was still at 4.6% when the Democrats won the House. That was after the Clinton recession that Bush took over and almost immediately into 9-11. Within 18 months of 9-11 and the unemployment topped out at 6.2% and then started falling and continued to fall until the Republicans lost control of Congress. Just to make sure that you didn't miss it, the Republican controlled congress has not passed any laws since 2006. [/quote] There you go again...skewing the conversation with facts!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1047100" timestamp="1314993783"] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=87540.msg1046967#msg1046967 date=1314987788] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1046962#msg1046962 date=1314987475] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1046946#msg1046946 date=1314986660] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1046943#msg1046943 date=1314986374] [size=36pt]Given profits of $35 billion [/size] in just the first quarter alone, it's hard to find evidence that repealing these subsidies would cut domestic production or cause layoffs," Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), chairman of the committee, lectured the oilmen. Chevron Corp. Chief Executive John Watson, however, said: "Don't punish our industry for doing its job well." Rising energy prices have become a key economic issue, threatening the current recovery, as well as a political one. Democrats have called for an end to the tax breaks as a way of generating income to close the federal budget deficit; the deficit has become a key GOP issue as the 2012 election approaches. [color=red]House Republicans have generally opposed ending the breaks because they view them as a tax increase[/color]. Events like Thursday's hearing have become a familiar sight when gasoline prices move upward, as they have in recent weeks. The national average for a gallon of regular unleaded is close to $4, and at least 17 states have prices well above that benchmark, according to recent surveys. [color=red]The oil executives argued that scaling back their tax breaks would unfairly single out their industry and hamper their ability to pursue new energy exploration,[/color] jeopardizing jobs and perhaps leading to even higher prices. They also contended their companies weren't to blame for high gas prices.  Oil executives defend profits, tax cuts at Senate hearing Gasoline prices are driven by forces beyond their control, [color=red]heads of major oil companies tell lawmakers in arguing against repeal of tax breaks[/color] for their firms [/quote] When were these tax breaks enacted? [/quote]from what I can find 2005 And We all know who was in the WHITE HOUSE that yr, GOD AND BIG OIL ;D ;D [/quote] God and Big Oil in 2012...sounds good, I'm in!  8) [/quote]Typical consumer ::) [/quote] Over 9% unemployment and (in my best Dean Wormer voice)  0.0 jobs created in August...I can see why you want to stick with obama!

[quote name="True Blue" post="1046962" timestamp="1314987475"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1046946#msg1046946 date=1314986660] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1046943#msg1046943 date=1314986374] [size=36pt]Given profits of $35 billion [/size] in just the first quarter alone, it's hard to find evidence that repealing these subsidies would cut domestic production or cause layoffs," Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), chairman of the committee, lectured the oilmen. Chevron Corp. Chief Executive John Watson, however, said: "Don't punish our industry for doing its job well." Rising energy prices have become a key economic issue, threatening the current recovery, as well as a political one. Democrats have called for an end to the tax breaks as a way of generating income to close the federal budget deficit; the deficit has become a key GOP issue as the 2012 election approaches. [color=red]House Republicans have generally opposed ending the breaks because they view them as a tax increase[/color]. Events like Thursday's hearing have become a familiar sight when gasoline prices move upward, as they have in recent weeks. The national average for a gallon of regular unleaded is close to $4, and at least 17 states have prices well above that benchmark, according to recent surveys. [color=red]The oil executives argued that scaling back their tax breaks would unfairly single out their industry and hamper their ability to pursue new energy exploration,[/color] jeopardizing jobs and perhaps leading to even higher prices. They also contended their companies weren't to blame for high gas prices.  Oil executives defend profits, tax cuts at Senate hearing Gasoline prices are driven by forces beyond their control, [color=red]heads of major oil companies tell lawmakers in arguing against repeal of tax breaks[/color] for their firms [/quote] When were these tax breaks enacted? [/quote]from what I can find 2005 And We all know who was in the WHITE HOUSE that yr, GOD AND BIG OIL ;D ;D [/quote] God and Big Oil in 2012...sounds good, I'm in!  8)

[quote name="westend1" post="1046833" timestamp="1314981213"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1046791#msg1046791 date=1314979526] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1046754#msg1046754 date=1314978047] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1046746#msg1046746 date=1314977753] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1046706#msg1046706 date=1314976366] [Hidden Content];         Better than the last 8 years, huh? [/quote] Year over year comparisons are meaningless.  You and I already had this discussin on Abbot labs.  If a basketball player is averaging 2 points per game and then starts averaging 4 points per game, you can make a headline that says " Player increases point production by 100%"  Sound good but isnt [/quote] 4 points is better than 2 and more profit is better than less, however you try to spin it. [/quote] The markets dont spin anything.  They give a very unbiased, non political opinion.  In their opinion, the company is worth about a third less than when it came out.  Funny that you, of all people, would say more profits are good.  You didnt seem to think that about Abbot Labs [/quote] You seem to have forgotten parts of that conversation.  I don't mind profits, I just don't want to give tax breaks to companies who fire Americans and hire overseas. [/quote] But you seem to defend GM and the volt subsidies when GM is doing this: [Hidden Content] One quote in particular: "It's an almost impossible dilemma," said former labor secretary Robert B. Reich, now a professor at the University of California-Berkeley. "GM is a global company -- so for that matter is AIG and the biggest Wall Street banks. That means that bailing them out doesn't necessarily redound to the benefit of the U.S. or American workers.

[quote name="westend1" post="1046712" timestamp="1314976576"] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=87540.msg1046708#msg1046708 date=1314976464] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1046704#msg1046704 date=1314976249] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=87540.msg1046701#msg1046701 date=1314975982] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1046687#msg1046687 date=1314974754] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=87540.msg1046682#msg1046682 date=1314974284] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87540.msg1046677#msg1046677 date=1314973916] WHOAAA! Briefly caught on CBS this morning: [b]auto industry selling cars[/b], manufacturing is doing good, retail sales much better than expected this August ...Keep Hope Alive! [/quote] Not selling this car...they can't give these volts away and they want 10,000 sold by end of 2011...can you say subsidize?  Another green idea heading south! [Hidden Content] [/quote] Did you read the article or just the headline? [/quote] I read the article...your point?  Would you call this a success? [/quote] They are selling as fast as anything else, so I would not call it a flop as you trying too. But keep searching for any thing to blame Obama for, Maybe your going to blame him for the drought in Texas or the floods in the east. God is on your side :o [/quote] The factory where they are made is subsidized @ 30% with taxpayer money...that's what angers me...spend your own money on crappy cars, no mine!  Wouldn't matter who was in office [/quote] You should have said that in the first place rather than, "they can't give them away".  That's just untrue, isn't it? [/quote] Wow...you got me!  ::)

[quote name="westend1" post="1046706" timestamp="1314976366"] [Hidden Content];         Better than the last 8 years, huh? [/quote] Back on topic...volt sales!

[quote name="True Blue" post="1046704" timestamp="1314976249"] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=87540.msg1046701#msg1046701 date=1314975982] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1046687#msg1046687 date=1314974754] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=87540.msg1046682#msg1046682 date=1314974284] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87540.msg1046677#msg1046677 date=1314973916] WHOAAA! Briefly caught on CBS this morning: [b]auto industry selling cars[/b], manufacturing is doing good, retail sales much better than expected this August ...Keep Hope Alive! [/quote] Not selling this car...they can't give these volts away and they want 10,000 sold by end of 2011...can you say subsidize?  Another green idea heading south! [Hidden Content] [/quote] Did you read the article or just the headline? [/quote] I read the article...your point?  Would you call this a success? [/quote] They are selling as fast as anything else, so I would not call it a flop as you trying too. But keep searching for any thing to blame Obama for, Maybe your going to blame him for the drought in Texas or the floods in the east. God is on your side :o [/quote] The factory where they are made is subsidized @ 30% with taxpayer money...that's what angers me...spend your own money on crappy cars, no mine!  Wouldn't matter who was in office

[quote name="True Blue" post="1046690" timestamp="1314974972"] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=87540.msg1046682#msg1046682 date=1314974284] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87540.msg1046677#msg1046677 date=1314973916] WHOAAA! Briefly caught on CBS this morning: [b]auto industry selling cars[/b], manufacturing is doing good, retail sales much better than expected this August ...Keep Hope Alive! [/quote] Not selling this car...they can't give these volts away and they want 10,000 sold by end of 2011...can you say subsidize?  Another green idea heading south! [Hidden Content] [/quote]Again just another REP spin.. No Dove He only read the head line. But here As a result, supplies at dealerships -- where Volts reportedly sit on the lot for less than 10 days, about as quick as a car can be processed and turned around for a customer. [b]Rep gloom and Doom[/b]. Read more: [Hidden Content] [/quote] Not doom and gloom...reality!

[quote name="westend1" post="1046687" timestamp="1314974754"] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=87540.msg1046682#msg1046682 date=1314974284] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87540.msg1046677#msg1046677 date=1314973916] WHOAAA! Briefly caught on CBS this morning: [b]auto industry selling cars[/b], manufacturing is doing good, retail sales much better than expected this August ...Keep Hope Alive! [/quote] Not selling this car...they can't give these volts away and they want 10,000 sold by end of 2011...can you say subsidize?  Another green idea heading south! [Hidden Content] [/quote] Did you read the article or just the headline? [/quote] I read the article...your point?  Would you call this a success?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1046677" timestamp="1314973916"] WHOAAA! Briefly caught on CBS this morning: [b]auto industry selling cars[/b], manufacturing is doing good, retail sales much better than expected this August ...Keep Hope Alive! [/quote] Not selling this car...they can't give these volts away and they want 10,000 sold by end of 2011...can you say subsidize?  Another green idea heading south! [Hidden Content]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1046627" timestamp="1314970741"] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=87540.msg1046585#msg1046585 date=1314968506] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87540.msg1046520#msg1046520 date=1314935609] Just google the professor's name at American University. He's been forecasting for a while now. [/quote] I'm pleased to announce that professor Allan Lichtman's streak will end in 2012!  :) [/quote]LOL!    :D  "Keep hope alive. We will continue our presidential drive. He will be recognized as the greatest of all time-eee!!!!! Watch and see how the polls will blow your mind-ddddd!" [/quote] I'm with tigersvoice, I don't think even you believe that!  ;D

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1046520" timestamp="1314935609"] Just google the professor's name at American University. He's been forecasting for a while now. [/quote] I'm pleased to announce that professor Allan Lichtman's streak will end in 2012!  :)

[quote name="bmtball" post="1036598" timestamp="1313611988"] [quote author=rounder17 link=topic=86220.msg1036521#msg1036521 date=1313602196] Why is everyone giving this guy a hard time? He is putting kids in front of scouts, not an easy thing to do. [/quote] Agree 100%.  Why are people so quick to shoot holes in a guy trying to help out local kids?  Might the costs paid help defray the costs of bringing all these scouts in?  In case you haven't heard, the State of Texas, along with many other states, are cutting the budgets of most universities.  Which directly impacts athletic budgets.  So to get a gathering of all these scouts, maybe he has to offer to pay some of their expenses?  The "what's in it for him" is that by gathering all these scouts, maybe he can get a full combine, so he can scout players for his college. Funny how so many people are quick to take credit for a kids success on this board.  But criticize those who legitimately give a kid opportunities.  DaBears-if people listened to you, no one would get recruited.  Just send out e-mails and wait for them to come to your high school game? (perhaps a high school coach?)  Insane.  To get recruited today, not only do you have to have talent, you have to be seen.  Being seen today, means being in the right place at the right time.  Unless you have a kid on your high school team throwing low 90's or an athlete who is a legit 5 tool player, or be playing against one of these types of players, you won't get seen just by playing high school ball.  Of the 2011 class who signed on to play college ball, very few did it by just playing high school ball.  They were seen with their select team playing in a summer tournament, they were seen at a college prospect camp, they were seen at one of these combines, they were seen at one of the Monday night games that Fackler runs, and they were seen at a Perfect Game, or simlar camp.  In order to be seen, you need to attend these combines, you need to go to as many college prospect camps as possible, you need to get on a summer team that travels to college venues, or close to college venues.  All of which, cost money.  As a parent, you have to determine if the benefit out weighs the cost. There isn't one magic bullet to being seen, then ultimately getting a scholarship.  It is a long and arduous process that involves a little luck and a lot of hard work.  Coach Harrington is simply giving kids another option to "being seen".  Is that so bad? [/quote] Good post!

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