LumRaiderFan

  Obviously I can't read very well (you never disappoint)  :)  My mistake if you weren't booted.

Check it out PAMFAM10...follow up on our discussion last night.   [Hidden Content]   Just a few quotes from the article...only three but there are many more.   1)    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."   President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998   2)    "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."   — Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry (D — MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998   3)   "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."   — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

You make such a compelling case with all the evidence you provide but I'll have to stick with my researched and well informed opinion that he didn't lie.

LOL...do you think Bush actually snuck into Iraq and looked for himself or possibly based his decision on the intelligence he had before him...that said WMDs were in Iraq. Colin Powell said so himself.

I'll post the intelligence he made his decision on with agreement from Congress and lots of Democrats tomorrow... don't want to do it from my phone. Surely you don't think he killed 3000 Kurds with slingshots ,do you? If you don't know about the Kurds, you really do need to do some research.

So you refuse to actually check it out for yourself and you don't believe anyone agreed with him that Hussein had WMDs.

Take the time to research how many intelligence agencies from other countries AND Democrats agreed with Bush. He did not lie.

Remind me, what did Bush lie about? Please post actual evidence that he lied about something.

Ignore him guys...he adds nothing to the debate and will probably be booted again soon anyway.

So do I... but I'm sure you'll come around. :)

My point exactly, there is none...straight and homosexual are choices IMO.   People make choices about all kinds of stuff all the time that are baffling and make no sense to others...but I believe they are just that, choices.   I gotta feeling we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. 

I don't remember the day I decided not to become an ax murderer either, but I am not one. (I am not equating the two, so don't go there)   You believe it is how we are and I believe it's a choice we make...like any behavior. If behavior is simply "who we are", that would be a great legal defense for anything we do.   ...and if I'm not mistaken, there is no homosexual chromosome.

Not sure, but it was a choice I made influenced by the healthy heterosexual examples set before me. I see you acknowledge it's a choice and not genetic.

I take it that's your way of saying you don't believe hell is a real place/destination.

You calling it a dumb explanation is a badge of honor for me. I gave you my explanation, take it or leave it, I couldn't' care less either way. :) What you should be explaining is why you would put a kid in a lifestyle that, if he adopts as his own, will go to hell literally if he doesn't change.

You asked how homosexual marriage deprived a child of a mother and father...a father is a man and a mother is a woman in my way of thinking and a homosexual marriage has to leave one out.   That's my way of thinking...explained.

  Hmmmm...really?

Regardless, the state should make the call. The EPA is just one more nonsensical branch that should be abolished.

More fed gov overreach.   [Hidden Content]

[Hidden Content]   From the article...Obama's words:   For the average person, many folks who don’t have health insurance initially, they’re going to have to make some choices. And they might end up having to switch doctors, in part because they’re saving money.

But he knows all he has to do is make one comment about anything and the sippers gulpers run with it without question.

Hide what...all the millions he gives to church and charity.

  Already got the house in order...the Senate and White House are next.

She wants to actually report real news stories that are truthful???... how dare her.   Guess she'll have to go to Fox if she wants to do that.   [Hidden Content]

  He is probably too exhausted from the all-nighter they just pulled to save the planet from climate change.