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It was a reference to football in general.. 3 and out.. You know.. 3 loses to Texas and OUT! :D

[quote name="hornet06" post="981698" timestamp="1299922306"] [quote author=Scooter! link=topic=81563.msg981670#msg981670 date=1299906609] hi Aggie fans!  lol    3 and out! like football LOL [/quote] Scoreboard... [/quote] This is the basketball thread.. and we politely have one thing to say to the Aggie fans.. Scoreboard.. :D

Texas by 10+ again ;) Texas knows how to play defense against the M&A

[quote name="bullets13" post="981243" timestamp="1299870872"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=81552.msg980892#msg980892 date=1299799594] Burkburnett won by 9.. Plays West Oso for 3A Championship [/quote] Wait, what happened to Lubbock Estacado?  I thought they were a shoo-in? [/quote] Go ask AAW ;)

I hate routs in baseball... unless you do it the "right way".. NO extra-base hits, NO stealing, Pitchers throw ONLY fastballs, etc... You get what Im saying ;) The kids work hard to go play some baseball, so they want to play the game the way they know how But My real question is, what kind of team were they playing? ??? Im more concerned about the other team because that is what's pitiful

Burkburnett won by 9.. Plays West Oso for 3A Championship

Burkburnett is beating them up on the glass

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="980876" timestamp="1299797880"] [quote author=Pupmom link=topic=81364.msg980875#msg980875 date=1299797605] [quote]And then she tried to say how that Freshman team wasnt stacked  which I thought was funny[/quote] Can someone please enlighten me here?  Is this one of those cases where they think the kids all moved from PA again?  Because these boys all went to Central or C.O. except one. [/quote]No, I think he meant the Freshman team was [b]loaded with talent[/b]... so much talent that they could have won all those games with anybody as coach. [/quote] Thats what I meant ;)

Well pupmom thought we were bashing the Coach! Nobody said he was a bad coach or a bag guy.. We were just informing all of SETXsports.com about the problem with almost everybody athletic program in the state, Need more coaches specialized in Basketball! And then she tried to say how that Freshman team wasnt stacked :D which I thought was funny

Great job Coach Kilcrist for the season they had! He did his job! But all Im saying is that his job was easy.. Either do a lot of coaching and win almost every game, or do nothing and win almost every game ;) ;D Thats all im saying

...What a way to lose... dang.. Great Job Evadale!! Everybody in SETX is proud!

[quote name="Pupmom" post="980564" timestamp="1299776615"] [[quote]color=red]I'm sorry, but I haven't seen one person blame Nederland's loss to Ball on anything other than that Ball was the better team.  Can someone [quote]point to any of these alleged posts that claim otherwise. The gripes about the assistant coaches all seemed to claim "Nederland would be even better if...."; Not "Nederland would have beat Ball if....".[/color][/quote][/quote]Then you obviously did not read the pages of the Final Nederland game where the Assistant Coach was blamed for the loss because he did not tell Coach the Smith had 3 fouls.  My posting was meant to say that Coach Kilchrist knows basketball and works hard for the program. I too would like to see coaches that are hired just for basketball.  Our Varsity football program has 13 coaches, as many as college teams have.  It is outrageous the amount of money and emphasis that is placed on football.  But, my point of the post was to say that Coach Kilchrist is a great man, and he does a great job.   Also, how do we have a STACKED freshmen team.  You have boys that have played basketball for years, and work great together. How does that become a stacked team?  You can not win unless you have a Coach that teaches them to respect one another, not to be ball hogs, and how to run the plays, and that is what Coach Kilchrist did.  Plus he helped coach Varsity, while teaching and Coaching at the Middle School as well. [/quote] With all respect to Kilchrist, That freshman team was the best in area before he started coaching them ;) Not saying he isnt a good coach, but he could have sat in his chair the whole game and told them to play 5-on-5 and man-to-man defense at the start, then not a another word except for subs when they got tired :D They still would win about as many games

I think he is upset about Ieans getting the award when, by what he is saying, was a no-factor against Nederland.. I remember the kid from last summer and to be honest, he wasnt good at all.. He must have gotten a lot better, but Im sure he couldnt have done much against the post guys from Nederland.. Maybe the other coaches from the other teams in district voted him, but Coach E probably didnt ;) Another point he made was about the number of Ned players compared to Central or Ozen.. Heck, Ozen did get all their staters named to the team, while Nederland got only 3.. If that entire group got voted on, then they should have beaten the Bulldogs at least once..

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="980096" timestamp="1299691353"] [quote author=Pupmom link=topic=81364.msg980012#msg980012 date=1299684122] I am a mother, and what difference does that make?  The Nederland basketball program is one to be rivaled by any High School program.  They deserve credit from the District, the fans, and anyone who was watching and was a part of the season.  I just do not feel that it is right for people to try and blame one man for the final loss of the Varsity.  The Varsity had a great ride, with a great coach, but Coach Kilchrist is a great man, that is not getting the credit he deserves.  I too feel that Coach English needs more help, and that is evident to all, but if you are speaking of someone without all the facts, that is just not right, or respectful. [/quote]I'm sorry, but I haven't seen one person blame Nederland's loss to Ball on anything other than that Ball was the better team.  Can someone point to any of these alleged posts that claim otherwise. The gripes about the assistant coaches all seemed to claim "[i]Nederland would be even better if....[/i]"; Not "[i]Nederland would have beat Ball if....[/i]". [/quote] That is what everybody was saying! We didnt mean to offend any coaches or relatives/close friends/wives of the coaches

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="979929" timestamp="1299674713"] Just have a little over 24 hours to get your selections in. Thread will close Thursday at 8am. [/quote] That goes for you too AAW ;)

[quote name="Pupmom" post="980012" timestamp="1299684122"] I am a mother, and what difference does that make?  The Nederland basketball program is one to be rivaled by any High School program.  They deserve credit from the District, the fans, and anyone who was watching and was a part of the season.  I just do not feel that it is right for people to try and blame one man for the final loss of the Varsity.  The Varsity had a great ride, with a great coach, but Coach Kilchrist is a great man, that is not getting the credit he deserves.  I too feel that Coach English needs more help, and that is evident to all, but if you are speaking of someone without all the facts, that is just not right, or respectful. [/quote] For the few times that I did speak with Coach Kilchrist, he seems like a great guy that knows basketball and wants to win.. I made one comment saying he was a great coach that got the easiest job in the area, All Levels.. If you cant win 98% of the games you coach having that stacked Nederland freshman team (which he did ;) ), then you need to find a different job :D

[quote name="Youknowwho" post="980087" timestamp="1299689690"] [quote author=ST4life link=topic=81352.msg979982#msg979982 date=1299682428] [quote author=InStitches link=topic=81352.msg979838#msg979838 date=1299640758] That player of the year will usually come from a state champion and I will reserve that choice for obvious reasons. All the teams arent done yet. [b]Team of the year: Evadale[/b]-last one standing and no one gave them a chance. Just read all previous posts............... Coach of the Year: no question about it-Laurence Williams-Evadale Player of the year:TBD      8) I dont want to hear its just  1A either. Its just as tough to make it to Austin in 1A as it is in all the other classes. Let the argument begin [/quote] play-off run is one thing being the best team in SETX is another I could name 8 or more teams in SETX that are better than Evadale [/quote]Nobody from Evadale cares if you could name 20 teams that are better . Evadale is going to state and nobody else from southeast texas is. [/quote] Then rename the award "Farthest in the Play-offs" ;) Maybe we should have a "Team of the Year" award for [u]1A-2A[/u] & [u]3A-5A[/u]?

[quote name="stevenash" post="979835" timestamp="1299640433"] Hmmm- I wonder why the fans of the Lakers, Celtics, Yankees,Patriots, Colts expect to do well every year? Faninthestands- I hope that I have your approval for this ongoing exchange. By the way, if you choose to call me an idiot, I want you to know that you will be 1084th person to say that. [/quote] There you go again.. Do you even read other people's post correctly?? DO NOT try and relate this argument to a professional team/sport!!! I clearly said [u]High School[/u]...  ;) COME ON MAN!!  ;D ;D ;D

[quote name="#1 Manager" post="979899" timestamp="1299646892"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=81329.msg979466#msg979466 date=1299592603] [quote author=#1 Manager link=topic=81329.msg979388#msg979388 date=1299555701] These are just a few things i find wrong about this years all disrict selections: (1) How come the entire Ozen starting [b]5[/b] makes the list , but the 14-0 Ditrict Champs Nederland  only get [b]3[/b] !?!?!? (2) Speaking of Ozen, how does a kid([b]Green[/b]) get 1st team  even though he doesnt play the entire second half of district. 2nd team at best, he aint no senior. (3) Since we r on the Ozen topic still,  Ieans (Defensive Player of The Year)......Really?!?  This kid couldnt hold his own against any post in this district and this ditrict aint known anymore for good post play. (only Nederland had some) (4)To the Vidor(supposedly gonna win district with that great 19-0 start) Story, this team finishes in the rock bottom of this district and gets 2 kids in the 1st team. Williamson is a great player and kid, but his numbers were way down from previous years....so i say second team at best. Mancebo was the real threat for vidor, so i do give credit for putting him 1st team. (5) Even dang Central got more picks than Nederland, Central cant even win a playoff game. Go figure that one out? (6)Livingston now, they get 3 ([b]sophmore[/b]) picks, heck nederland cant even get more picks than a team that didnt make the playoffs. We can agree that Zach English(soph) is a better player than 2 of those kids. (7)Too many under classmen on this list, u gotta give it to kids that this is there last chance at making it then the juniors come up and so on and so forth. Like, Mike Mitchell  (2nd team) or  Josh Wagner (Defensive MVP) Wagner shut down a lot of good guards this year. [/quote]First of all, I commend you for some good points.  At the same time, you have some extremely silly points here.  First of all, This is about awards based on players.  Nederland was a great all around team.  Nederland had a few really good players that carried this team...  (Forney, Smith, Cunningham, and Mitchell).  The rest of the players (with the exception of the Freshman) would not start on any of the other 3 playoff teams. Central had stud players.  Maybe not a good 'team' or good coaching, but great players.  Ozen had Ieans. You talk as if he wasn't a good defensive player, but I bet my check he led this district in blocked shots or altered shots.  He's the tallest kid in district and always gets his hands on shots or layups.  Ozen also had a team full of playmakers.  Another thing while I remember.  Central and Ozen had players on their team that can create their own shot, making them good.  Whereas PN-G had Doty that could do this, Central and Ozen had plenty.  Ozen's Green did miss a lot of games, but he is on the top tier of good players in this district.  I think it was good that he was on the list. [/quote] All i hear about in this post from u soulja is that Central had "studs" ::) and Ozen had players that could create their own shot. But still both those teams couldnt beat Nederland, so your points lack a lot of basketball knowledge. Plus tell me again how Centrals playoff run was with those studs?!?!? :D  Secondly, Kelvin Smith easily lead the district in blocked shots, if this Ieans kid is so good why couldnt shut down REAL posts like Kelvin and Dionte. If he is as good as u say  why cant he shut down a true post(not those weak boy post in our district). Finally it takes good players to win ditrict so that coment bout these awards being based on good players. You might want to think before u type. Last but not least soulja, central let a fat, lazy kid(Dionte) dunk on them. ;D  End, Done, Game Over, Close the Book!!!!! [/quote] ;D Uh oh Soulja

[quote name="stevenash" post="979819" timestamp="1299638083"] I also might add that, in my opinion, the chemistry of which you speak is mostly attributable to the coaching staff.  So, if the coaching staff remains the same, the expectation is for history to repeat itself and for the players to, once again, develop a good chemistry within. [/quote] That comes from the players and how they interact with each other on AND off the court..And every group is different I agree that teams and cities will come into every season with high hopes because their team history is great, BUT the only thing that "Grinds My Gears" is when people give a prediction and only base it off the fact that they won last year or whatever.. That is all I have been trying to say! " No History" when comparing teams to play during the current year.. Nash, Im going to call you an idiot if you dont understand that :D And I can tell you are no Idiot, but this is something basic that a person off the street could comprehend..

[quote name="stevenash" post="979802" timestamp="1299636925"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=81352.msg979798#msg979798 date=1299636783] Come on Nash!! I will explain it one more time for you because I think you missed the point of me saying no History... I hate when people say a high school basketball team is going to win strictly because it happened in the year before or whatever.. If you say a team is going to win because they have better coaching, or players, or something like that, then That is a good argument.. High school teams change TOO much from year to year so history is almost irrelavant when comparing teams about to play.. Clear enough?? ;D [/quote] Aren't better coaches, better players, or "something like that" reflected in history?  I still dont remember anyone coming on this board and saying " since HJ was good last year or the year before, that automatically makes them good this year".  [/quote] Better players that year and the chemistry that those players have with each other is what changes.. And Nash, that is the mindset of EVERY person in Sour Lake Im sure ;)

Come on Nash!! I will explain it one more time for you because I think you missed the point of me saying no History... I hate when people say a high school basketball team is going to win strictly because it happened in the year before or whatever.. If you say a team is going to win because they have better coaching, or players, or something like that, then That is a good argument.. High school teams change TOO much from year to year so history is almost irrelavant when comparing teams about to play.. Clear enough?? ;D

All I know is Mike is gonna let you know that they were Undefeated District Champs everytime you talk basketball with him :D Maybe even but on the Silsbee shirt saying it on the back.. I think you should buy a Sealy shirt as a present for him

They still get those braggin rights for a Whole Year cause they beat yall twice, but it is ironic that Silsbee loses first round while HJ goes to the regional tourney ;D

She seems upset at some comments made about Nederland Athletics as a whole