True Blue

No matter who wins ,the team that get the most out of this game is Kountze. All the teams that Kountze has played in dist. have been small,guard type teams. They have not had to play a team with a strong inside game in awhile. But i dont see what Silsbee has to gain with this game, other than just playing instead of setting.

[quote name="hfmom08" post="968055" timestamp="1297999955"] [quote author=hfmom08 link=topic=80242.msg968054#msg968054 date=1297999914] [/quote] So realy what your saying is that your glad those kids, that have played for 4 years are gone. Just throw them out with the dish water. Because its all about the 2012 and 2013 State Champs ::) ::) [/quote] TB  - please don't put words in my mouth.  You have not heard me say that nor have I posted that on this board.  I said what I meant and that was that we wanted a win - especially against a home town rival and to show people we have talent.  [/quote] [/quote]No... What you said was... That the win, to a team that is going no were, was more important than the kids that have played for 4 yrs, finishing their high school on the floor and not on the bench >:(

[quote name="hfmom08" post="967967" timestamp="1297988962"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=80242.msg967928#msg967928 date=1297983857] TB - [color=blue]you contradict yourself.  You say if you have nothing to play for then let the seniors play.  This was a close game and there was a chance to come back (and win).   Then you say down by 15 to 20 with 3 min left you have a chance to win.[/color]  [b]Well that's the exact situation HF was in so I would say they did have something to play for even if it was just bragging rights in this big rival game and finally showing people that we have just as much talent at HF[/b]                                                                                                                                                                       What are you playing for??  You had no chance of playing another game. So who is the bragging rights for?? Those Fr, So, Jr?? They have a few yrs to beat the great HJ, but those Sr will never play again. Come on look at the big picture. [/quote] So realy what your saying is that your glad those kids, that have played for 4 years are gone. Just throw them out with the dish water. Because its all about the 2012 and 2013 State Champs ::) ::) I already answered the question of what we were playing for.  The big picture is more than just being about playing another game THIS SEASON...it's about the future and the future lies with those Fr, So and Jrs.  With that being said I am looking at the big picture. [/quote]

[quote name="CATMAN" post="967972" timestamp="1297989802"] [quote author=STINGER link=topic=80400.msg967563#msg967563 date=1297918064] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=80400.msg967460#msg967460 date=1297909289] Does anyone know what size players WS has, and what type of ball do they play?? I hope its a good match up. I think the second game will be a good one. WOS has no real basketball players just great athletes with lots of speed. The third game I think HJ is just to strong for PNG. [/quote]Not a whole lot of size, one 6'4, a couple 6'2, and the rest under 6'.  WS has a ton of speed and depth.  The top 10 on the roster are just as good as each other and because of this WS tends to pull away in the 4th by wearing down the opponent. [/quote] Blue always want to no how big the team is he think if they are not big THEY CAN WIN. REDHORSE was not big hun BLUE. [/quote]See there you go again. Wrong, if you knew anything about Evadale you would know that that is exactly opposite. Big teams dont affect them at all, its the small teams with all guards that have given the trouble. There is not a 1a team that can match them in size, but small guards hurt them.

TB - [color=blue]you contradict yourself.  You say if you have nothing to play for then let the seniors play.  This was a close game and there was a chance to come back (and win).  Then you say down by 15 to 20 with 3 min left you have a chance to win.[/color]  [b]Well that's the exact situation HF was in so I would say they did have something to play for even if it was just bragging rights in this big rival game and finally showing people that we have just as much talent at HF[/b]                                                                                                                                                                       What are you playing for??  You had no chance of playing another game. So who is the bragging rights for?? Those Fr, So, Jr?? They have a few yrs to beat the great HJ, but those Sr will never play again. Come on look at the big picture.

[quote name="dawg13" post="967903" timestamp="1297980457"] Excuse me sir,I think you have to win district games to make it to the playoffs. [/quote]Sounds to me your a little late to this dance, We are taliking about a team that has NO chance of playing another game, and its the last game of the year, and the last 3 min. I see nothing wrong with letting the Srs finish the game on the floor, and not on the bench watching a Fr, or So, play. And as for saying trying to win to carry over to  next Yr is foolish. Most kids could care less what happen last yr. And unless you win state, ;) every team will lose their last game. ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="967865" timestamp="1297974847"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=80242.msg967862#msg967862 date=1297974753] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=80242.msg967675#msg967675 date=1297956647] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=80242.msg967639#msg967639 date=1297953488] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=80242.msg967632#msg967632 date=1297952637] I still think the biggest story about this game is that HF could have won it. 8) [/quote] HF had a chance to win this game when they steped off the bus, they reality set in. And I have heard some HF fan saying that the coach Quit, when he let the SRs play the last 3 min. I thank he was letting the kid play their last 3 min, that they will ever play, in highschool. Whats wrong with that, its not like you had anything to play for, your season is over.Winning at that point ment nothing, but letting those kid finish their high school career on the floor, instead of on the bench is OK by me. [/quote]OMG! The seniors had their chance. Thats what Senior day is about, isn't it. Now you want to establish or end on a winning note and carry it on to next season. Did you see HJ settle back in the game. They wanted to win. They could have lost and still went to the playoffs. [/quote] Sorry I just think that when you have nothing to play for, why not let the Srs play the last of their high school on the floor, and not on the bench watching a Fr play that has 3 more yrs to play. I think that there is a time to play to win, but when the season is all but over let the kids play that will not have the chance to ever play again. And I also bet that if the HJ team is in the playoffs in a game that there is no chance to come back from, that those Srs, will be on the floor at the end. Not saying in a close game but one that they have no chance of comming back from. [/quote] Regarding your last sentence.  I would be very interested to know the range of differences in defining no chance of coming back. [/quote] Iam saying 15 to 20 points in a game that you have been beat most of the night. You know, with 3 min. left if you realy have a chance. But  a playoff game is a lot defferent that  just a dist. game.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="967675" timestamp="1297956647"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=80242.msg967639#msg967639 date=1297953488] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=80242.msg967632#msg967632 date=1297952637] I still think the biggest story about this game is that HF could have won it. 8) [/quote] HF had a chance to win this game when they steped off the bus, they reality set in. And I have heard some HF fan saying that the coach Quit, when he let the SRs play the last 3 min. I thank he was letting the kid play their last 3 min, that they will ever play, in highschool. Whats wrong with that, its not like you had anything to play for, your season is over.Winning at that point ment nothing, but letting those kid finish their high school career on the floor, instead of on the bench is OK by me. [/quote]OMG! The seniors had their chance. Thats what Senior day is about, isn't it. Now you want to establish or end on a winning note and carry it on to next season. Did you see HJ settle back in the game. They wanted to win. They could have lost and still went to the playoffs. [/quote] Sorry I just think that when you have nothing to play for, why not let the Srs play the last of their high school on the floor, and not on the bench watching a Fr play that has 3 more yrs to play. I think that there is a time to play to win, but when the season is all but over let the kids play that will not have the chance to ever play again. And I also bet that if the HJ team is in the playoffs in a game that there is no chance to come back from, that those Srs, will be on the floor at the end. Not saying in a close game but one that they have no chance of comming back from.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="967632" timestamp="1297952637"] I still think the biggest story about this game is that HF could have won it. 8) [/quote] HF had a chance to win this game when they steped off the bus, they reality set in. And I have heard some HF fan saying that the coach Quit, when he let the SRs play the last 3 min. I thank he was letting the kid play their last 3 min, that they will ever play, in highschool. Whats wrong with that, its not like you had anything to play for, your season is over.Winning at that point ment nothing, but letting those kid finish their high school career on the floor, instead of on the bench is OK by me.

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="967565" timestamp="1297918545"] No feelings on shoulders here....I just think that they can beat them, we should have had them the first game, but couldn't close the deal.....I just took it as you wrote it, you said that HJ cant get passed silsbee this year, I just disagree.... [/quote] Like I said .  I was never hating on HJ , just going by what I have heard about the two teams this year. And by me writing that they could not get passed Silsbee, they have played twice and have not gotten by them yet. But anything can happen when your talking about 17 and 18 yr old kids.

Does anyone know what size players WS has, and what type of ball do they play?? I hope its a good match up. I think the second game will be a good one. WOS has no real basketball players just great athletes with lots of speed. The third game I think HJ is just to strong for PNG.

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="967368" timestamp="1297897610"] I started to not even post but the immature side of me just wont let it go....You act as though the Tigers "mopped the floor with us" That was not the case. It is not impossible for the Hawks to beat the Tigers this year as you so eloquently stated, I know ur another HJ hater but if HJ gets the opportunity to play the Tigers again I think they have a good chance at taking the next game...I guess only time will tell. HJ has proved u haters wrong every year now... [/quote]Woo were did you get that I am a HJ hater, that could not be farther from the truth. I think that they have a out standing program. And if not for bad weather and bad luck we would be playing at HJ this year. And I did not see eather game, but just going from what I read. They just cant match up with Silsbee this year. I know that they have played close twice , for 3 qrs, but seem to have run out of gas in the 4 qr. From what I have read HJs starting 5 can play with Silsbees starting 5 but when you have to go to the bench Sislbee has the advantage.  I never said that the Tigers Mopped the floor, or anything like that. You seem to be wearing your feelings on your sholder ;D

The refs have blowen the whistle before comming on the floor in every dist game this year. The Teck was called on the 3 game of the year. But the intimating call has been in affect this year. Teams can no longer come in and run all the way around the floor , if the other team is all ready on the floor.

Goodrich game comes down to a FT to seal the game and the kid mised it and they lost. FTs win games It may not be the biggest part of the game but in a close game it most time is the winner or loser that eather makes it or misses it.

OK here is JMO The Tech that was called went like this. IN most cases the Refs leave the gym between games ,and when they come back in they blow their whisle before they hit the floor. I know thats not mandated but most do, to let the players know they are comming in. The rule is no dunking when the refs are on the floor. This ref came in the side door walked behind the benches and stood behind the scorer table. after about 2 min, the other two ref came throw the door with a whisle and the players quite dunking. The first ref, that was behind the table came out and with to the other two refs, and pointed out the players that were dunking. That was cleary a ref wonting to make himself a bigger park of the game. It is a rule to keep one bigger team from intimating a smaller club, and I can agree with that. Last year Ana. when EC went there, the Ana. coach asked the Ref to not leave the floor, to keep the EC players from pre game dunks. But to have a Ref to sneak in the gym is bush leauge.

Hardin has played EC hard a home for yrs.Could be a huge upset in the making

I hope for, George and Chase, that they pull this one out and force a 4 team playoff.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="966458" timestamp="1297795379"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=80156.msg965625#msg965625 date=1297613501] Seeing that this is the first Vr game [b]that the fat guy[/b] has called this year I dont see the patten. But are you saying that he is calling the game on what he has heard about different players. And no its not the first Tech of the year the other one was for a foolish call also, For dunking in warmups. Again a case for the ref wonting to become part of the game. [/quote]Am I the only one bothered by the fact that you refer to someone else as "the fat guy"?!?!?  ??? [/quote] OK you tell me, One was a black man, one had a bad hairpeace, and the other was a fat guy. And the fat guy is the one that made the call..But I got to give credit were it due, he did run up and down the floor and try to get in were he could make a call. We had one last night that had a hard time making it to half court and made a few calls from the FT line on the other end of the floor. ::)

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="966442" timestamp="1297793922"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=80232.msg966424#msg966424 date=1297791499] [quote author=uknowit2 link=topic=80232.msg966302#msg966302 date=1297779892] Blue Boy made a funny. He used Evadale (Rebs) and Austin in the same sentence. Evadale will make it all the way in the playoffs to the first decent team they play. They haven't beaten a good team all year and I doubt they'll start now. [/quote] I did not say that they would make it to Austin, just hope that they would. But I thank they have a much better chance than most teams in this area, of making it. WOS and HJ cant get past Silsbee, Ned, wont get pass Yates. So I see Silsbee, EC, Evadale, having the best chances of making it to Austin, from this area.JMO [/quote] ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) [/quote] Is that all you got ??? ;D ;D Come on tell me what you realy think :o

[quote name="uknowit2" post="966302" timestamp="1297779892"] Blue Boy made a funny. He used Evadale (Rebs) and Austin in the same sentence. Evadale will make it all the way in the playoffs to the first decent team they play. They haven't beaten a good team all year and I doubt they'll start now. [/quote] I did not say that they would make it to Austin, just hope that they would. But I thank they have a much better chance than most teams in this area, of making it. WOS and HJ cant get past Silsbee, Ned, wont get pass Yates. So I see Silsbee, EC, Evadale, having the best chances of making it to Austin, from this area.JMO

[quote name="BIGMO44" post="966236" timestamp="1297745458"] Why only a 3rd place 2A?  Are the Champs and Runner-up teams obligated?  Just wondering? [/quote] Well they have played Kountze twice this year and dont know what would be gained by a third game, And EC has obligated to play someone else :(

[quote name="DVILLE-GORILLA" post="965725" timestamp="1297653898"] Wasn't refering to you either Blue.  You just can't seem to keep you foot out of your mouth.  I'm starting to think Evadale will be a heck of a lot better when you have no reason to come to the games!  That'll be soon enough. [/quote]I have been going to Evadale games for 25 yrs now, and I dont see me stoping going anytime in the furture. I have coach almost every kid playing in JR high all the way up to Sr . Boys and girls. So you aint getting rid of me that eazy.  ;D And WHSALUM I said that after we lost to Leggett that we were not the best 1a club in the area. And as far the Techs go, yea its the rule, and its also the rule if you slap the backboard, if you spill water on the floor during a 30 sec time out, if the coach crosses mid court, and on and on. But most of those calls are never made except when a offical wonts to become part of the game. Most of your good refs can make their point without making that call and you never know they are on the floor.JMO

[quote name="BIGMO44" post="966223" timestamp="1297744619"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=80267.msg966220#msg966220 date=1297744345] [quote author=BIGMO44 link=topic=80267.msg966215#msg966215 date=1297744021] That would be a good one.  You wouldnt happen to know if Collins is still the coach there at Heights?  I think he left there but not sure. [/quote]Chad left there last year. We use to go to his summercamp every year there, but he did not have one there last year.. [/quote]Hes a good coach and a better person.  Would've been nice to go up against him...but looks like Heights was not an option anyway.  If you hear anything let me know Blue... [/quote] Yea great guy, Blane has goin there for yrs ,to his camp and stayed at his house. I dont know how he put up with him ,but he keep inviting him back?? It might have had something to do with the money I sent him thow ;D ;D

Congad to WOS and their new coach. Its was his first yr and he has changed the expections of there players. Give him 2 more yrs and there could be a changing of power in that Dist. And we all know about that 2012 and 13 HF State bound teams ;D

[quote name="BIGMO44" post="966215" timestamp="1297744021"] That would be a good one.  You wouldnt happen to know if Collins is still the coach there at Heights?  I think he left there but not sure. [/quote]Chad left there last year. We use to go to his summercamp every year there, but he did not have one there last year..