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People didn’t just sweat their way to upward mobility in the past. The federal government’s role in the creation of American middle class is undeniable and central. And our middle-class republic didn’t crash because average Americans forgot how to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. I’m not going to pretend to have all of the answers, but I know one of the major causes in our decline has been the growing gap between the rich and the rest of us. That gap is the widest it’s been in a century, and the future isn’t looking promising. Job growth is disproportionately coming from low-wage areas like food prep and retail clerks. The growing cleavage between the classes can be traced back as far as 1979. That’s when gains in productivity began to outpace worker incomes. That fact alone can help explain the frustration of many Middle Americans. Some of us achieved the college degree our parents never earned, and we could afford the finer things they couldn’t. Most working Americans just soldiered on. Wage gains kept flat-lining or falling in comparison to the costs of living. The climb of upward mobility got steeper. Wage shortfalls could be made up with E-Z credit, for a while anyway. The ruins of that way of life are all around us. Much is made of the massive federal deficit these days. I have a way we can solve that: more jobs. More jobs mean more growth and more tax revenue. Problem is, America’s job creators – the middle class consumers – are tapped out. Business owners can’t hire until they have consumers to sell to. That leaves the job of stimulating demand to the government. Time for government to lay the groundwork for our future by investing in our middle class. That is, if we really want an America with a middle class But we all know that the Reps and the Bush Oil machine will not let that hapen..Income inequality grew significantly in 2005, ( The Bush Years) with the top 1 percent of Americans - those with incomes that year of more than $348,000 - receiving their largest share of national income since 1928, analysis of newly released tax data shows. The top 10 percent, roughly those earning more than $100,000, also reached a level of income share not seen since before the Depression. While total reported income in the United States increased almost 9 percent in 2005, the most recent year for which such data is available, average incomes for those in the bottom 90 percent dipped slightly compared with the year before, dropping $172, or 0.6 percent. The gains went largely to the top 1 percent, whose incomes rose to an average of more than $1.1 million each, an increase of more than $139,000, or about 14 percent. The new data also shows that the top 300,000 Americans collectively enjoyed almost as much income as the bottom 150 million Americans. Per person, the top group received 440 times as much as the average person in the bottom half earned, nearly doubling the gap from 1980

:( :( looks like it will be a long hard yr for the rebs :( :(

Looks like that UNIVERSAL weight lifting program need a little more time to find out if it will work :o

A Washington Post-ABC survey released Monday found that 60 percent of those polled expressed disapproval of Obama's handling of the economy. Thirty-four percent said his proposals were making the situation worse and 47 percent said they were having no effect – dismal soundings for a president headed into a re-election campaign. Only 19 percent said the country was moving in the right direction. Not that Republicans, or Congress as a whole, are in good odor with the voters. The Post-ABC News poll found only 28 percent approval for the job the Republicans are doing, and 68 percent disapproval. An AP-GfK survey last month put overall support for Congress at 12 percent – the lowest level ever in the survey's history. The tea party has also been hurt, according to the same poll, which found that 32 percent of those surveyed have a deeply unfavorable impression of the movement that helped give Republicans control of the House in the 2010 elections So people are not happy with Obama right now but there still not going to put another bible thumping, gun tote war hungry Rep back in office.

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[quote name="77" post="1049024" timestamp="1315107332"] What is this guy done that would make yall want him back in? [/quote]The notion that the stimulus failed has hardened into Republican orthodoxy, but it doesn't hold up. A study released last week by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office confirmed that as of June, between 1 million and 2.9 million people are working who wouldn't otherwise have been, thanks to the stimulus. That study wasn't an outlier. Several others came to similar conclusions, including one by the economists Alan Blinder and Mark Zandi. As Jared Bernstein notes, the analysis by Blinder and Zandi found that the stimulus was responsible for roughly 2.7 million jobs and increased the GDP in 2010 by a healthy 3.4 percent.But a payroll tax cut has been in effect since the start of the year, and as Bruce Bartlett, who served as a Treasury official in President George H.W. Bush's administration, wrote this week, "There is no evidence that the lower payroll tax has done much of anything to stimulate either spending or hiring." The Obama administration has proposed extending the cut into next year. Republicans oppose the idea. The Republicans only wont the tax cut for the top 1% not for the working class.

Looks like that recruting thing works :D ;)

[quote name="tjcfan08" post="1047781" timestamp="1315015962"] On side kick by NEWTON and NEWTON recovers.....Go Eagles!!!! [/quote] 28 to 7 and you kick a on side kick, Show the class Newton :o :o :o

[quote name="SteelerCzy" post="1047578" timestamp="1315012130"] Dewyville scores, 2 pt conversion good, Pirates - 14 Rebs - 13 [/quote] Sounds like a great game

[quote name="rykerx144" post="1047477" timestamp="1315010676"] thats what i put!!  LOL    ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Just a ? how could this post be made at 7 55 and its only 753 now :o

[quote name="rykerx144" post="1047449" timestamp="1315010135"] Deweyville first drive goes to 1st and goal but after 3 straight QB sacks Deweyville punts from the 40 yd line.  Evadale scores on first play 80 yards  pat no good Evadale 6 Deweyville  0  1st. [/quote] :o :o ??? ??? ??? What the heck are you talking about

[quote name="SteelerCzy" post="1047431" timestamp="1315009883"] Evadale scores first, extra pt no good. Rebs - 6 Pirates - 0 [/quote] Keep the scores comming... Got to work but still wont to know ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1047321" timestamp="1315003070"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1047319#msg1047319 date=1315002567] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1047304#msg1047304 date=1315001895] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1047273#msg1047273 date=1315000832] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1047264#msg1047264 date=1315000575] Very kind of you to give him credit for that.  But I guess its only fair as he has gotten credit for everything. ;D [/quote]You got me all wrong Nash, I do not dislike the Guy. I think it would be great to sit down a drink a few beers with the guy. And I dont think he was Evil, but as a leader of the free world I dont think he was up for that. Sort of like that look that Wade use to get on the sideline for the Cowboys, kind of lost. [/quote] And you are suggesting that the current Pres is, as you say, up to it?  Sorry, but the apology tour and the coddling of the Muslims is not my idea of being up to it.  And I needn't even mention economic understanding. [/quote] So you you saying that we should wage war against the entire Muslim world? I dont think coddling is the answer but We can not keep fighting the world. Look at what this war has cost the US now. If not for the two wars Bush would not have ran up the debt so high. Now before you start , we had to answer the 9 11 attack. But the Iraq war was foolish and costly. [/quote] Not looking for war.  But I also dont want my president out on an apology tour regarding "Americas arrogance" and making sure he doesnt step on the toes of Muslims at the expense of everyone else in this country. [/quote] I think someone said this before you might remember who" Speek softly and carry a big stick" I dont think we need to go around pound our chest and telling the world we are the Big dog in the yard. You know that when you do that someone is going to try and take you on. JMO I think we need to take care of our own and let the rest take of themselfs. Again JMO i fell if we leave the Muslims to there own world they wont have time or money to wont to attack the US. All I ever here any of them saying is just leave us alone. So leave the whole bunch alone pull out of the OIL fields and see how long it takes for them to learn to eat oil burggers. They cant feed themselfs. Corn wont grow in the sand.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1047304" timestamp="1315001895"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1047273#msg1047273 date=1315000832] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1047264#msg1047264 date=1315000575] Very kind of you to give him credit for that.  But I guess its only fair as he has gotten credit for everything. ;D [/quote]You got me all wrong Nash, I do not dislike the Guy. I think it would be great to sit down a drink a few beers with the guy. And I dont think he was Evil, but as a leader of the free world I dont think he was up for that. Sort of like that look that Wade use to get on the sideline for the Cowboys, kind of lost. [/quote] And you are suggesting that the current Pres is, as you say, up to it?  Sorry, but the apology tour and the coddling of the Muslims is not my idea of being up to it.  And I needn't even mention economic understanding. [/quote] So you you saying that we should wage war against the entire Muslim world? I dont think coddling is the answer but We can not keep fighting the world. Look at what this war has cost the US now. If not for the two wars Bush would not have ran up the debt so high. Now before you start , we had to answer the 9 11 attack. But the Iraq war was foolish and costly.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1047264" timestamp="1315000575"] Very kind of you to give him credit for that.  But I guess its only fair as he has gotten credit for everything. ;D [/quote]You got me all wrong Nash, I do not dislike the Guy. I think it would be great to sit down a drink a few beers with the guy. And I dont think he was Evil, but as a leader of the free world I dont think he was up for that. Sort of like that look that Wade use to get on the sideline for the Cowboys, kind of lost.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1047247" timestamp="1314999543"] [quote author=ABSENT! link=topic=87540.msg1047234#msg1047234 date=1314998803] Ourtside of the crazy Paul is actually a better choice than others you all have in mind.  But we can't vote for free thinkers... We only want Right or Left winged Zombies! America the foolish, compromise has always been one of the staples of our greatness! We are turning into any other monarchy, where they who are in power at that time can just drive the ship into a waterfall rather than compromise to get it to the shore! [/quote] And who is responsible for us turning into a crowd that won't compromise?  Is there a small chance that could be blamed on George Bush? [/quote] Not realy I have to give the bum@$$ credit for that much He did try and reach across the table awhole lot more than the eleit that are running the Rep party now.

[quote name="tvc184" post="1047196" timestamp="1314996951"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1047188#msg1047188 date=1314996765] OK so lets take you facts and say that [size=12pt][b]after the Rep got control in 2010[/b][/size] we can give them the credit for the unemployment being 9% today. seeing in july of 2010 it was 7.5% [/quote] Got control of what? There are the House, the Senate and the president needed to pass a bill into law. The Republicans control 1/3rd of that equation. Exactly what are they in control of? All they can do is stop bills from being passed. They have already pass legislation in the House and it was quickly rejected by the Democrat controlled Senate. I or I would venture to say anyone else has a clue what you are talking about with Republican control. [/quote]You clam that the only reason that the Clinton yrs were good is because the House was under REP control. Now you have control again you wont to blame everything on the Dem white house.

[quote name="tvc184" post="1047148" timestamp="1314996040"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1047138#msg1047138 date=1314995231] I know that times or hard and work is short but he took the job from a fool  that drove the country here and he is having to deal with it as he goes, but you give him no credit and all the blame. [/quote] The last time that the Republicans had control of Congress and the presidency was in 2006. When the Republicans lost control of Congress in December 2006, the unemployment was 4.4% and was still at 4.6% when the Democrats won the House. That was after the Clinton recession that Bush took over and almost immediately into 9-11. Within 18 months of 9-11 and the unemployment topped out at 6.2% and then started falling and continued to fall until the Republicans lost control of Congress. Just to make sure that you didn't miss it, the Republican controlled congress has not passed any laws since 2006. [/quote]OK so lets take you facts and say that after the Rep got control in 2010 we can give them the credit for the unemployment being 9% today. seeing in july of 2010 it was 7.5%

I know that times or hard and work is short but he took the job from a fool  that drove the country here and he is having to deal with it as he goes, but you give him no credit and all the blame.

More gloom and doom :( :( :( Jobs are growing in the U.S. They've grown for 12 straight months under Obama's economic stimulus policies and, in 2010 alone, more jobs were added than in Bush's 8 years as president. Oh, the lies. How many times have you heard Republicans or even the media say that climate change, clean energy, and environmental policies are job killers? How many times have you heard the claims that Obama's efforts to improve the economy aren't working? How many times have you been told that peanut butter doesn't taste good with jam? (Okay, scratch that last one, that's a matter of opinion.) If you haven't heard yet, new data out by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics show that in 2010 the economy saw an increase of 1.1 million jobs. But what is a number like that without a reference point, right? Turns out that if you look back at the same stats over the past decade, you can see that is more than the total number of jobs created in Bush's 8 years as president. :( :( 

[quote name="westend1" post="1047019" timestamp="1314990367"] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=87540.msg1046999#msg1046999 date=1314989818] The jobs report just came out for August and there were no net jobs created and the lowest total since last September or in other words, the worst economy in the last year. I guess those 4 points coming off the bench aren't working very well. [/quote] Based on 1 months numbers?  Really? [/quote] Were you been man , I am like a longtail cat in a room full of rockingchairs

[quote name="stevenash" post="1046946" timestamp="1314986660"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1046943#msg1046943 date=1314986374] [size=36pt]Given profits of $35 billion [/size] in just the first quarter alone, it's hard to find evidence that repealing these subsidies would cut domestic production or cause layoffs," Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), chairman of the committee, lectured the oilmen. Chevron Corp. Chief Executive John Watson, however, said: "Don't punish our industry for doing its job well." Rising energy prices have become a key economic issue, threatening the current recovery, as well as a political one. Democrats have called for an end to the tax breaks as a way of generating income to close the federal budget deficit; the deficit has become a key GOP issue as the 2012 election approaches. [color=red]House Republicans have generally opposed ending the breaks because they view them as a tax increase[/color]. Events like Thursday's hearing have become a familiar sight when gasoline prices move upward, as they have in recent weeks. The national average for a gallon of regular unleaded is close to $4, and at least 17 states have prices well above that benchmark, according to recent surveys. [color=red]The oil executives argued that scaling back their tax breaks would unfairly single out their industry and hamper their ability to pursue new energy exploration,[/color] jeopardizing jobs and perhaps leading to even higher prices. They also contended their companies weren't to blame for high gas prices.  Oil executives defend profits, tax cuts at Senate hearing Gasoline prices are driven by forces beyond their control, [color=red]heads of major oil companies tell lawmakers in arguing against repeal of tax breaks[/color] for their firms [/quote] When were these tax breaks enacted? [/quote]from what I can find 2005 And We all know who was in the WHITE HOUSE that yr, GOD AND BIG OIL ;D ;D

[size=36pt]Given profits of $35 billion [/size] in just the first quarter alone, it's hard to find evidence that repealing these subsidies would cut domestic production or cause layoffs," Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), chairman of the committee, lectured the oilmen. Chevron Corp. Chief Executive John Watson, however, said: "Don't punish our industry for doing its job well." Rising energy prices have become a key economic issue, threatening the current recovery, as well as a political one. Democrats have called for an end to the tax breaks as a way of generating income to close the federal budget deficit; the deficit has become a key GOP issue as the 2012 election approaches. [color=red]House Republicans have generally opposed ending the breaks because they view them as a tax increase[/color]. Events like Thursday's hearing have become a familiar sight when gasoline prices move upward, as they have in recent weeks. The national average for a gallon of regular unleaded is close to $4, and at least 17 states have prices well above that benchmark, according to recent surveys. [color=red]The oil executives argued that scaling back their tax breaks would unfairly single out their industry and hamper their ability to pursue new energy exploration,[/color] jeopardizing jobs and perhaps leading to even higher prices. They also contended their companies weren't to blame for high gas prices.  Oil executives defend profits, tax cuts at Senate hearing Gasoline prices are driven by forces beyond their control, [color=red]heads of major oil companies tell lawmakers in arguing against repeal of tax breaks[/color] for their firms

[quote name="westend1" post="1046833" timestamp="1314981213"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1046791#msg1046791 date=1314979526] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1046754#msg1046754 date=1314978047] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1046746#msg1046746 date=1314977753] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1046706#msg1046706 date=1314976366] [Hidden Content];         Better than the last 8 years, huh? [/quote] Year over year comparisons are meaningless.  You and I already had this discussin on Abbot labs.  If a basketball player is averaging 2 points per game and then starts averaging 4 points per game, you can make a headline that says " Player increases point production by 100%"  Sound good but isnt [/quote] 4 points is better than 2 and more profit is better than less, however you try to spin it. [/quote] The markets dont spin anything.  They give a very unbiased, non political opinion.  In their opinion, the company is worth about a third less than when it came out.  Funny that you, of all people, would say more profits are good.  You didnt seem to think that about Abbot Labs [/quote] You seem to have forgotten parts of that conversation.  I don't mind profits, I just don't want to give tax breaks to companies who fire Americans and hire overseas. [/quote] And I have said I dont mind profits as long as we are not giving oil comp. large tax cuts when they make Billions a quarter in proffit.

[quote name="LumRaiderFan" post="1046701" timestamp="1314975982"] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1046687#msg1046687 date=1314974754] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=87540.msg1046682#msg1046682 date=1314974284] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87540.msg1046677#msg1046677 date=1314973916] WHOAAA! Briefly caught on CBS this morning: [b]auto industry selling cars[/b], manufacturing is doing good, retail sales much better than expected this August ...Keep Hope Alive! [/quote] Not selling this car...they can't give these volts away and they want 10,000 sold by end of 2011...can you say subsidize?  Another green idea heading south! [Hidden Content] [/quote] Did you read the article or just the headline? [/quote] I read the article...your point?  Would you call this a success? [/quote] They are selling as fast as anything else, so I would not call it a flop as you trying too. But keep searching for any thing to blame Obama for, Maybe your going to blame him for the drought in Texas or the floods in the east. God is on your side :o