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Agreed Razor. Our spread offense didn't give us the ability to grind the clock and give our defense a rest. Our running game keeps improving and Raines is starting to gain some confidence in his throws. If Nederland scores more than 20 points against Central, they win in my opinion. But I do believe Nederland will score somewhere in the 30s against Central's defense.

[quote name="Sleepy1" post="1079710" timestamp="1318332726"] Nederland just keeps improving while all the other teams in the district are getting worse.  :o [quote author=GoDogs27 link=topic=89536.msg1079704#msg1079704 date=1318330490] Be careful what you wish for, Nederland is a much improved team than what you faced earlier in the season. I don't think that's a realistic possibility though. I don't think Vidor makes it past bi-district if they make the playoffs. [/quote] [/quote] I can only post about what I've seen. I don't see Vidor week-in and week-out to gauge them. I just feel like this Nederland team is special and getting better. I think they will peak at the right time.

[quote name="BHFAN" post="1079753" timestamp="1318339457"] [quote author=GoDogs27 link=topic=89627.msg1079705#msg1079705 date=1318331199] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=89627.msg1079481#msg1079481 date=1318290242] Who are you predicting for a round three opponent for Nederland? [/quote] That's just a houston area homer website. Its crazy to rank Livingston ahead of Nederland after that butt whipping they got in Jefferson County. Oh well.. [/quote] Don't feel bad we beat Ned and yall took it to Livingson and we are at #3. The trick to this is that it is not a Current ranking! This is rankings for how far he thinks you will get in the playoffs which is no way to rank teams IMO. Teams should be ranked for their strengh not ranked higher because they have an easier road in the playoffs! Good Lord ::) For any person with sense the top three would be. BH NED Livingston [/quote] I agree with everything you said. Not sure how you can rank teams  when you don't know who is gonna be in the playoffs. Guess he has a crystal ball. Can I borrow?

[quote name="bigdog" post="1079481" timestamp="1318290242"] Who are you predicting for a round three opponent for Nederland? [/quote] That's just a houston area homer website. Its crazy to rank Livingston ahead of Nederland after that butt whipping they got in Jefferson County. Oh well..

Be careful what you wish for, Nederland is a much improved team than what you faced earlier in the season. I don't think that's a realistic possibility though. I don't think Vidor makes it past bi-district if they make the playoffs.

[quote name="mypooh" post="1079607" timestamp="1318299113"] Can't never tell how returning players will work these Pirates hungry this YEAR. Just cause you coming back doesn't make you have the same hungry the next year. I say go fight win Pirates NOW 2011. This is a sound football team that doesn't beat themselves. Go Coach Matthews. [/quote] Good post! I agree.. Attack NOW! Next year is never guaranteed. Nederland went 3 or 4 years in a row losing their starting QB predistrict. Strike while the iron is hot. Hope we see you again in the playoffs but sorry to say it will be a similar outcome..  ;)

WO-S had a chance, Vidor had a chance, and PNG had a chance. All 3 fell short... Nobody is saying these teams didnt have a shot. I do not in any sense of the word believe that Nederland is a quote unquote elite team. I think they are improving every week and if they continue to do so then yes they can be an elite team. But they are certainly not unbeatable. I was only commenting on what the initial thread was about and what I thought Vidor needed to improve on, (a passing game). This wasnt a vidor vs. ned thing. that was settled a few weeks ago... no hug needed here. I will take the 5-1 record with a smile..

[quote name="TITAN POWER" post="1079483" timestamp="1318290454"] Got to love the Dog high jackers  You guys need to worry about Central. [/quote] last time I checked, this was a forum. forums usually mean anybody can post on a topic if they have an opinion on it. Call it a 4th and 9 miracle chunk if you want, but we completed a pass and Vidor failed to defend it. thats the difference between KNOWING how to win close games and LEARNING how to win close games. Vidor shouldve defended it better.. Only one thing matters in close games.. Nederland won and Vidor lost..

[quote name="Kiandn" post="1079165" timestamp="1318272678"] Got to admit though Razor  6 inches more and we be talking the other way around I dont know why we didnt do the play to hanks we been doing all night  but on well i sell cars not coach so its over now see ya next year [/quote] If ifs, ands, and buts were candy and nuts then the Titans would have won Superbowl XXXIV. MCM was not about that one play. Even if you get the first down, there is still no guarantee you are going to score.

Hewitt Midway is a two loss team that is ranked 25th. Nederland has only one loss, to Barbers Hill (#20), in overtime. Oh well, I like flying under the radar more anyway. This year has an eery feeling of the late 90's/early 2000's.

I will agree that Vidor's pass defense has improved a lot, but the problem I have with believing in Vidor is they are so one dimensional. Its hard to go anywhere when you are a one dimensional team. Even if you do get to the playoffs, teams will eat you alive by stacking 8 or 9 in the box and manning up on the receivers. Same can be said for teams that are in spread and throw it 90% of the time. Thats why I am glad Nederland is back to a well balanced offense. I think we are close to 50/50 run/pass ratio. Gotta get a pass game together to be effective in the long run...

[quote name="Big Ford" post="1079283" timestamp="1318276377"] Not saying Central would have beat Livingston this year, I don't know.  But when Rob went down and his status came out, the kids gave up, the coaches didn't know what to do and the fans didn't believe.  Well all that has been corrected.  The kids are now in a situation where they have to play as a team and not rely on 1 or 2 people.  The coaches have finally got the right game plan.  And the Jaguar fans will be in affect in Nederland. We (Central as a whole) are use to being the underdogs and dealing with adversity.  See all you Dog fans in Nederland and enjoy the band... [/quote] That tells me that this Central team has no resolve, panics, and gives up easily . If thats the case then once Nederland punches them in the mouth a few times (figuratively speaking), they will lay down. You see that a lot when teams have no resolve. You have to be able to come together as a team when you are in battle and bad things happen. If you cant do that, then you will be easily beat. Based on you telling me that this team gives up easily, I may have to change my prediction.. Gonna be a long night for the Jags.. Nederland - 38 Central - 7 And p.s. could you leave the band in beaumont please? or give the bus driver bad directions?

PNG - 38 Ozen - 28

By whom?

Probably just heat of the moment.. It happens sometimes.. I wouldn't make it out to be much of anything..

I would be more focused on this year right now.

Sorry invictus, did you say 34 points against this Nederland D? Don't kid yourselves. After Friday, the Jags learn the meaning of lights out defense and finally understand why everyone is buzzing about this defense. Keep hanging on to the past Jaguar fans, its all you're gonna have after Friday. Ill go unlock the door to the woodshed. Here kitty kitty... NED - 31 Central - 7

Gooooooo Pirates  8)

[quote name="surfer73" post="1077383" timestamp="1318106118"] [quote author=EZDawg link=topic=89387.msg1077372#msg1077372 date=1318105120] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=89387.msg1077364#msg1077364 date=1318104629] [quote author=baddog link=topic=89387.msg1077363#msg1077363 date=1318104307] I was wondering when we would hear about Livingston playing without their RB, and how they would have won had he played. You can't just insert a missing player and say you would win. Heck, he would just be another in a line of players we put the brakes on. He couldn't be tougher to bring down than your QB. That guy is a hoss! [/quote] Livingston RB Devonte Mayes 37 carries  416 yards  11.24 yds per      8 TD's You lose that kind of production, it will hurt any team. Now, would it been the difference of Livingston winning or losing, that is all speculative. But he would have made a difference in the game, no doubt. [/quote] Corbin Carr for Nederland would have made a difference in the game too, but we didn't have him. If we lose the game last night, i don't think we make excuses for not having him on the field. Nederland has held every team they've played this year to well below their averages in ppg. Have we been full strength all year? No. No team ever is. You play with what you have available. This is not tennis or golf, it's a team sport. [/quote] Have not heard much about Carr.......My point is everyone on here knows that Bull was the playmaker for Livingston, and that is without someone telling me about him. [/quote] You havent heard about Corbin Carr? lol youre living under a rock. But it wasnt Carr who was out, it was Koby Couron. And he wouldve made a huge difference. Carr was playing injured last night too.. Mays would not have made much of a difference. Nederland kept forcing 3rd and longs and forcing Livingston to try to throw.. Try being the operative word. Thats a big problem with one dimensional offenses..

You're a lunatic if you really think that the Dogs couldn't have handled Mays as well. As others have said, we have had our fair share of injuries over the past few years and even this year, but aside from that, why can't you just accept that this Nederland defense is legit? What's it gonna take to prove that to you surfer? Its ironic how this defense holds every team well under there average ppg but every week I hear haters saying "well they didn't have to face so-and-so". Just because a certain player isn't on the field, doesn't mean the nederland D couldn't contain them also. You don't have to think this Dog D is worth anything Surfer, but most teams are saying Nederland is the toughest defense they've played by far all year. Keep hating, and we'll keep winning...

Was I the only one who saw about 4 Livingston defenders jump across the line without Nederland flinching on that play before Shaw scored in the 4th? Not sure what that was all about but anyways.. How many yards per game was Livingston averaging before tonight? I think a big turning point was Livingstons failed fake punt. Shouldve lined up under center. Also the two quick kicks by Raines were huge. Its HUGE when you win the field position battle. It was the difference in MCM and was a huge factor tonight. Congrats to the whole team tonight on a hard nosed effort. Jordan Wood stepped up both on defense and kicking. May have not been the prettiest kicks but he made all 4 and I doubt he spends much time practicing kicking. O line opened up some big holes tonight also so hats off to them. Livingston will be fine. Collins is one heckuva athlete. Good luck with the rest of district.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1076833" timestamp="1318048748"] Another controversial game just like the 2003 game at LU!  ;D ;D [/quote] That was my senior year. We just got through beating Vidor at home and they were playing the PNG game over the speaker system after we shook hands. We needed PNG to win in order to get in the playoffs. Only time I've ever rooted for PNG lol. Talk about a roller coaster of emotions because that final few seconds took forver for the officials to figure it out and we couldn't see what was going on, we could only hear the radio broadcast announcers who were just as dazed and confused as us. All of the Nederland fans were on the field with us and everyone was completely silent as we were listening to the chaos. Ill never forget that experience for as a long as I live.. PNG - 31 Ozen - 27

Big Ned is nowhere near a crown yet. No reason to look at that anyway. Only need to stay focused and keep getting better each week. Things will hopefully keep coming together on offense and be firing on all cylinders by playoffs. District would be nice but I'd rather a state title, and you need to get in the playoffs for that to be possible..

Whoa watch out for the DOGS! Told you Spell would have the answer for Livingston! Offense clicking now on all cylinders.. Might start getting more respect..