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[quote name="vidor pirate" post="856201" timestamp="1285385773"] all i will do is repeat my earlier post: it is alot easier to coach from the stands after you see the result of the play than it is to call the play on the field. Remember, coaching is their job, they get paid to coach because they know what they are doing (except Wade Phillips and Jason Garret). [/quote] That only goes so far vp.. I would never condone a fake punt on 4th and 7.. And I would definitely go for a 4th and inches (qb sneak)  EVERYTIME, when my line outweighs their line by 50-100 lbs a player.. I'm not being a second guesser here.. I'm being a first guesser.. its just common sense stuff.. Not coaching..

[quote name="1696dogs" post="856119" timestamp="1285384691"] Yes I was. Never miss. I'm there from warm ups till the lights go out. [/quote] Good.. I wish everyone was like you and I.. I support the team 100%.. And I believe our boys played hard.. But our coaches aren't giving them a chance to win.. On 90% of first downs tonight, what play did barrow call? Answer: the same run play we've ran all year! Next, why do you attempt a 42 yd field goal on 4th and inches with a 6'5 qb who can get under center and fall forward? And lastly, a fake punt on 4th and 7 on your own 25.. Need I say more?? And don't jump on me like I'm the only one who feels this way.. Everyone around me tonight felt the same.. It was pretty unanimous... Off the soapbox for now..

[quote name="1696dogs" post="855829" timestamp="1285381703"] Sorry its GoDogs27. My bad. [/quote] Were you at the game tonight?? I was..

[quote name="bigdog" post="855765" timestamp="1285380982"] Time for a qb change [/quote] I agree.. But then neumann would have to admit he was wrong... Its a shame.. A shame larry

This just in: neumann has officially gone cuckoo.. Fake punt on 4th and 7 from our own 25.. Seriously??

Vidor...

Nederland has ran out of excuses now.. This is the first week of district, you've got most of your starters and you are laying an egg to vidor.. The new 'entrance' didn't work larry... Now what?

So far one pick and one fumble for forney.. Maybe raines should be playing after all.. Nederland ia getting embarrased.. Outplayed and DEFINITELY outcoached..

Not sure what neumann is thinking.. Instead of going for it on 4th and inches, he elects to attempt a 42 yd field goal... No good.. You have a 240 lb qb, why can't you line him up under center and fall forward.. Especially against a vidor defensive front that's half the size of nederlands o line?! Coaches have panicked and lost their minds..

[quote name="silly365" post="854222" timestamp="1285252194"] LAST YEAR WE ALL PRAISED DIONTE INCLUDING MYSELF. WE NEVER DOUBTED HIS ABILITIES AND RIGHTFULLY SO.HE WAS 1 OF MANY LEADERS WE HAD ON LAST YEARS TEAM.WITHOUT HIM WE WOULD HAVE NEVER REACHED THE PLAYOFFS .I TRUELY FEEL THE SAME WAY THIS YEAR.ITS UNFORTUNATE THAT WHAT HAS HAPPEND HAS HAPPEND  HOWEVER THERE WILL BE A FOOTBALL SEASON AND DISTRICT STARTS TOMORROW.DIONTE CANT WIN WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF ALL HIS TEAM-MATES NOR CAN THEY WIN WITHOUT HIM. [/quote] Last year was a different story this year. He showed signs of leadership last year. I just find it appalling that people dont seem to care that instead of supporting his team on the sidelines, he's texting and posing for pictures.. I am not, by any means trying to attack the kid. I think he is very talented. I just wish that he would be a leader, even if he is injured.  My second point.. you said they cant win without him??? seriously?? Raines could lead this team just fine if the coaches wanted that and allowed him to throw the ball before the 4th quarter when youre down 28 points.. but thats neither here nor there... dogs will do fine regardless of who is at qb.. and just to point out, I have no affiliation with raines.. i couldnt even tell you what the kid looked like without a helmet and jersey on..

[quote name="Penny" post="852903" timestamp="1285087985"] GoDogs, just trying to clarify what you said... you condone letting the players choose who will start on Friday nights?  I'm not saying you can't have an opinion, but do you truly let the kids vote on who they want to start??? [/quote] If the coaches have a blind eye to the leadership of its players (or lack there of in this case), then yes.. i believe a coach should be listening to the team.. in this case, none of us know the whole story, but I find it hard to believe that the uproar is only felt by 3 players.. honestly, when i played, if something like this came up, i dont know if i wouldve stepped up either.. im sure a lot of those kids just wanna play football and give it their all.. regardless of the quarterback situation.. i mean do the coaches know he is on the sideline texting? sometimes the starting positions shouldnt be given to the most talented, but the best leaders.. and in this case, raines is a better leader.. why pull a guy who had a coming out party at barbers hill? i am not saying dionte wont make playes, because i believe he will.. but i dont trust his leadership on that field.. anybody that would rather pose for pictures or text on the sidelines during a game while his team is out there sweating and bleeding trying to win a football game, should not be put in a leadership role in my opinion.. i just hope that if forney stays in this role, he realizes the sentiment of the players around him and maybe he will step up..

Here is my post from earlier(inadvertently deleted) Chaos in nederland... I have a lot to say about this but ill hold my tongue as much as possible without trying to attack players or coaches.. If neumann is hearing from his players that raines should be the starter, then he should bench forney.. He is only hurting the team otherwise.. I've watchwd forney on the sidelines while he was hurt and he stands there with a towel around his neck posing for the guy taking pictures..this is not an exaggeration and many people saw it.. (Edit: also nonstop texting on his cell phone)..A leader would be talking with his offense and helping raines.. Neumann needs to do what's right for the team. After all it is about the kids.. I'm very proud of the few who stood up and said this was wrong and especialy proud of lack.. This team will fold like a blanket if forney remains the starter.. The coaches need to do what's right here..

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="852820" timestamp="1285082929"] The deletion of a previous thread was an honest mistake by a moderator.  No intent was made to quiet opinions on this matter.  As the Port Arthur News has deemed this newsworthy, discussion here is appropriate.  However, please, to the extent possible, be respectful in your words in this matter. [/quote] Thank you for the explanation

we are deleting legitimate and truthful posts now? doubt I'll ever use this forum again.. been here a while.. its a shame how facts (not opinions), get deleted because its a 'touchy' subject.. i would like a moderator to explain why all the posts got deleted, and how they broke the forum rules?

Just my two cents.. As a former player at c.o. wilson and a player under neumann and barrow, I can tell you this.. The middle schools do not do enough to prepare the boys for playing at the higher levels.. This is a big problem area.. My experience on 'weight lifting days' was everyone walking around the weight room talking and doing a rep here and there.. Next, barrow's playcalling in intense and dramatic situations has always been questionable.. This dates back to the 2000 game against bay city on the goal line.. But he generally does well when he's not put under pressure.. The biggest exception I saw was against barbers hill.. This was the worst called game I've seen in a long time.. At least up until the 4th quarter.. I don't know what he or neumann were thinking but most of the plays were just dumb and didn't make sense.. Maybe he's just saving stuff for district? Doubt it but I guess we will find out..

Line up about 30 players facing each other, making a lane or alley for the back to run through.. as he runs between the players, every player is trying to beat or strip the ball out.. Cake..

[quote name="Scalp'em" post="844426" timestamp="1284213400"] [quote author=adminbaberuth link=topic=72455.msg844381#msg844381 date=1284209361] What's your record after 3 without your starting QB? [/quote] You still have a defense don't you? A RB?  Nederland will be in the mix for one of the four spots. [/quote] Last night we didn't have sonnier (top defensive player and the fastest back we have), salenga (fastest and most athletic receiver, punter, punt returner), (and of course our starting qb forney... All will hopefully be back for district.. Get ready for this team to come together..

Big plays have killed the dogs so far this season as well as the offensive playcalling.. If we can correct these we will do just fine.. People can write nederland off all they want but if we can get healthy and stay healthy, the dogs will be a legit contender in 20-4a. Nederland is a good football team that has some kinks to work out. Dogs take it to the scaliwags in solid form.. Nederland: 28 Vidor: 7

What is the deal with our offensive playcalling? Need I say more? I think all the nederland fans know what I'm talking about.. 

[quote name="ForeverADog" post="840354" timestamp="1283792052"] Nederland usually struggles against option teams like Vidor but I still the dogs are too much. Win by 10. [/quote] True statement, but this season, I have much more confidence in our ability to stop the running game as opposed to a team that attacks through the air. I worry about how our defense will do in situations like that. I guess the key is to that is time of possession. at any rate: Dogs 28  BH 14

What a lot of people arent thinking about is what Neumann does with what hes got. Nederland has never had the true thoroughbred atheletes that some other schools had. Thats no excuse for poor playing, nor is it a knock on our players. Nederland typically has one or two good athletes but its the teamwork aspect and the fight that we have in our players. You dont see many Nederland players going on to play D-1 ball. My concern grows when I see someone giving up on a play. Last week one of our receivers tipped a pass and the defender intercepted it. Instead of trying to tackle the guy, he just stood there looking at his hands in amazement that he didnt catch it. I cant tolerate that kind of effort. Thats simply poor dedication to your team. Back on topic, Neumann has had great success and overcome lots of adversity over the years, and to me, hes the best coach in this area. As for the score.. Nederland takes this one.. BIG.. Nederland 35  GCM 14

this is getting a little ridiculous if this is the truth.. what did nederland do to piss off the quarterback god?

im not making any judgements on the player or coaches and correct me if im wrong, but isnt an MCL sprain only limited by the pain of it.. Now, of course I am not saying it isnt painful, but from what I understand, he cant really injure it anymore than if he never had the sprain.. As far as Forney, I havent seen him in practice or anything, but I have heard similar sentiments from several others.. He has "The Chosen One" on his letter jacket.. whether or not that has any reflection on any of this is irrelevant..  At this point, I wouldnt mind giving a soph. the nod, get him some experience and work on developing him for having the starter job the next two years.. having a solid defense can do wonders for a struggling offense..

doesnt that take 4-6 weeks to heal?? why does this crap happen to us every year?

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