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[quote name="Cougtalk" post="929066" timestamp="1291868037"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=76796.msg928792#msg928792 date=1291836281] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=76796.msg928781#msg928781 date=1291835650] What numbers are you talking about. merka threw for more yards a ran for like 1000 yards. [/quote] Name              Comp Att   Pct     Yds   TD  INT Dominic Merka  143    306  46.73   2101 12  10    Name              Comp  Att   Pct     Yds   TD  INT Andres Herrera  125   188   66.49  1642  16  5 how about completion percentage, TDs and INTs QB is less about running and more about throwing. I've stated numerous times.... merka has a case for MVP...maybe even Utility/Ath. Not QB. I know his receivers weren't good, but that's part of it. [/quote] If your a PASSING QB and not a true Spread QB Like AH then you need that kind of completion percentage and about 500/600 more yards than Merka to win that award in my opinion, just because completion percentage has so much to do with dropped passes. [b]I guarantee you, you factor out drops and Merka's completion percentage is in the high 50's and he still has more passing yards. [/b] But to be fair when factoring in QB's you have to take all thier stats. add 147 rushing attempts for 995 yards and 12 TD's and your left with Merka has 3096 total yards 24 total TD's and 10 PICS Herrea has Less than 2000 total yards and 14 td's and 5 PICS Look at those lines and tell me 1st string all district QB let alone Offensive MVP should be MERKA. [/quote] you can't factor them out.... if you do that you have to pretend that AH threw the same amount of pass attempts as merka thus inflating ydg, tds, and pic #'s. The reason I was leaving out rushing is because not everyone in district runs the same offense, and that's why I think that you've got to look at it from a passing standpoint. I totally get that merka's a bigger, stronger runner. No big deal.... I backed Merka from day one on getting a superlative. We'll agree to disagree. BTW, you've been saying "to be fair" a lot. :D

[quote name="bronco pride" post="928797" timestamp="1291836462"] If you dont think running is a big part of being a qb in a spread offense tell that to Cam Newton fixing to win the heisman. [/quote] yes... but not everyone in the district runs the spread, so it's not really a fair comparison, even though AH and DM's teams do.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="928791" timestamp="1291836213"] Dont want to bust your bubble but lamarque gave up a ton of points this year. Friendswood hung 55 on that defense we saw out there and guess what friendswood had that we didnt. [/quote] you can say QB but they also had a HUGE O-line like always. I'm gonna stop going back and forth. You don't like our QB, most of us do. I get it.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="928781" timestamp="1291835650"] What numbers are you talking about. merka threw for more yards a ran for like 1000 yards. [/quote] Name              Comp Att  Pct    Yds  TD  INT Dominic Merka  143    306  46.73  2101 12  10  Name              Comp  Att  Pct    Yds  TD  INT Andres Herrera  125  188  66.49  1642  16  5 how about completion percentage, TDs and INTs QB is less about running and more about throwing. I've stated numerous times.... merka has a case for MVP...maybe even Utility/Ath. Not QB. I know his receivers weren't good, but that's part of it.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="928710" timestamp="1291825419"] Like i said in an earlier post look at lamarques qb and look at ours and if you dont see a [b]huge talent difference[/b] then ohwell. [/quote] there was a huge talent difference across the board and we were in that game. The offense came away with 3 points on 2 trips inside the 5 and that is not all on andreas. It's on the TEAM. Remember, Andreas threw a TD pass that went in and out of a wide open receiver's hands that would have changed the whole complexion of that game. Instead, the ball was stripped the next play.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="928703" timestamp="1291824785"] Well love dayton football and i dont know how ah beat out merka for the 1st all-discrict. I find it hard to beleive that even one coach in our discrict would rather have ah than merka. So as much as i hate to agree with crosby i have to on this one. [/quote] If you look at numbers, it's simple. Now, merka for MVP is a different story. There's a case there.

[quote name="BRONX ROX" post="928345" timestamp="1291770864"] [quote author=broncos92 link=topic=77151.msg928303#msg928303 date=1291766027] [quote author=BRONX ROX link=topic=77151.msg928278#msg928278 date=1291764507] Skill positions are nice to talk about but the issue next year will not be the QB. O-LINE / D-LINE is the bigger issue. JV has some potentials but "studs" no. Anyway Im sure Stewart and co will address this and the BRONX will be ready to bring da wood next year. Thanks for another fun ride this season and counting down till next year. ;D [/quote]I think the d-line will be ok. Charles had a great year and we all are forgetting about burks. he got hurt the first game against elkins. The o-line will need some help, but with the experience ubre got this and the jr's we got returning I think we will be ok. that JV team had some good linemen also. We just need to play another non-district schedule like we did this year and it will help us grow up fast. We just need some one to step up and be a leader on the field.  [/quote] [b]CJ is a DB not on the D-line.[/b] Oubre is gonna be a stud and the center Barton is solid. I was more impressed with the fresh d-line than the JV. The front three are beast. [/quote] he's talking about Phillip Burks.... #53.... D-lineman that got hurt during the Elkins games. Tore something in his knee.

[quote name="bearfan14" post="928176" timestamp="1291754456"] FW almost(and probably should have) lost to 3A West Orange Stark........................LT in this one boys :) [/quote] I'm not saying FW will win... but... Come on man!!!! judging them by a game played 3 months ago?!?!

[quote name="BRONX ROX" post="928122" timestamp="1291749213"] [quote author=fwstangs link=topic=77055.msg928096#msg928096 date=1291746517] [quote author=badndn link=topic=77055.msg928030#msg928030 date=1291741002] LaMarque plays for a state title! That's all I have to say about the FW / LT game. [/quote] Appreciate the reconition from you that 24-4a is the best district in the state!! Good luck next year, hope things turn around for [b]nederland[/b]. [/quote] ??? [/quote] subtle slam exchanged for another subtle slam.

[quote name="bronco1" post="928067" timestamp="1291744023"] ::) [/quote] +1... didn't want to be the first.

[quote name="Who'sYourPatty?" post="927390" timestamp="1291647016"] If someone else is paying for you to go to school, then I don't care if it's CUSA, Big 11, PAC12 or whomever. Good luck and get that degree. [/quote] good post... that's what it's about.

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[quote name="BHPLYR_84" post="924850" timestamp="1291387508"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=76988.msg924842#msg924842 date=1291387092] [quote author=BHPLYR_84 link=topic=76988.msg924840#msg924840 date=1291386997] [quote author=BRONX ROX link=topic=76988.msg924837#msg924837 date=1291386233] Did you watch the Fres / JV games ??? Must gonna be doin some recruiting for upgradeing ;D [/quote]i did. and i dont see any players from dayton who are as big or as fast as all the players yall are losing. [b]yalls defense wont be stoping no one next year.[/b][/quote] uh huh..... [/quote]look at all yalls defensive playmakers.... seniors.... [/quote] Look at our defensive playmakers [b]most years..... [/b] seniors Plenty of underclassmen played on this years defense and there are good ones coming up. Dayton will reload and the defense will be fine. I don't want to help you turn this into a Dayton/BH thread. Why don't you stick to why you think BH will be "possibly the best in 19-4A"? If you're counting on Dayton being down to make your case, you're going to be sad next year.

[quote name="BHPLYR_84" post="924840" timestamp="1291386997"] [quote author=BRONX ROX link=topic=76988.msg924837#msg924837 date=1291386233] Did you watch the Fres / JV games ??? Must gonna be doin some recruiting for upgradeing ;D [/quote]i did. and i dont see any players from dayton who are as big or as fast as all the players yall are losing. [b]yalls defense wont be stoping no one next year.[/b][/quote] uh huh.....

[quote name="BHPLYR_84" post="924110" timestamp="1291301428"] [quote author=Broncofan65 link=topic=76796.msg921991#msg921991 date=1291050061] [quote author=cooligan link=topic=76796.msg921978#msg921978 date=1291049271] You're comparing Dayton's QB to Crosby's?  Now that is funny. I don't care what the stats are. Merka would be MVP for many district's. [b]Why do you think the #3 D1 team in the country recruited him?[/b]  [u][i][b]Don't blame him for dropped passes. Just watch the kid play.   [/b] [/i] [/u] [/quote] We did watch him play and he was innefective against us. I also say without the turnovers last year in the rain he may not have been that effective against us last year. Just Sayin. [/quote]you cant play good if your recievers are no good. Daytond QB has good stats because he has good recievers. if merka had the same kind of talented recievers and lineman blocking he would have double the stats daytons QB has. [i][u][b]just saying[/b][/u][/i] [/quote] You're out of your gourd if you think Crosby doesn't have the same level of talent as Dayton(or more) across the board. Now, you could say coaching and discipline, but the talent excuse doesn't work. I love the dayton kids but there are several schools in the district that have more talent. Also, it's unfortunate that there is no category for dropped balls... otherwise ALL of these QB's % would be much higher. You've got to look at comp %... otherwise you can't look at numbers at all.

[quote name="hitman009" post="924106" timestamp="1291301104"] [quote author=Diamond-J link=topic=76796.msg924061#msg924061 date=1291296651] [quote author=dayton link=topic=76796.msg924050#msg924050 date=1291294835] [quote author=hitman009 link=topic=76796.msg923539#msg923539 date=1291224968] Well if that is your case then Merka out performed both Dayton kids!!!! Merka had more yards rushing than Jakari and Merka had [b]more passing yard than herrea [/b] so what is your conclusion now?????? Mine lead me to only one..... Other coaches are not going to vote for a kid who plays for Crosby!!! [b]Give me some FACTS[/b] and help me change my mind!!!!  I don't think you are going to find them!! [/quote] Name              Comp Att   Pct     Yds   TD  INT Dominic Merka  143    306  46.73  2101  12  10 Name              Comp  Att   Pct      Yds   TD  INT Andres Herrera  125   188   66.49  1642  16  5 I think Andres has a pretty strong case for best QB in the district, especially when you look at attempt, comp. %, etc. I said earlier in this thread that I expected Merka to get MVP or Off. MVP because he was extremely important to his team. I'm just giving you some facts. Also... Jakari only missed the majority of the Crosby game and the CEK game. [/quote] Another way of looking at it is that Merka threw 118 more passes to complete only 18 more than Herrera. If those stats are correct then Herrera clearly had the better season. [/quote} are going on the one fact that he had a better PCT???  you have to have rec who will catch the ball first.   lets look at the top 3 passers shall we: Andrew Vargas Galena Park 158  337  46.88  2,553  23  20   Dominic Merka Crosby         143  306  46.73  2,101  12  10  and second leading rusher in district Andres Herrera Dayton 125  188  66.49  1,642  16  5   Vargas get screwed to... IMO with the facts. Merka co MVP, Vargas 1st and Herra 2nd [/quote] You're only looking at ydg!! Vargas threw 20 picks!!! that's why he gets no love. Herrera was efficient. NCAA passer rating (since tx plays NCAA rules) - just for fun Herrera 162.6 Vargas 121.2 Merka 110.8 [Hidden Content] Merka can't help that he had to do everything... including catch the ball for his receivers. Just like Herrera can't help that he was on better overall team. You've got to take those things away though. Herrera was the better QB. Once again, I agree that Merka was deserving of one of the MVP awards. Not that the others weren't, but Merka carried Crosby... even in the losses he put up good numbers and did all that he could. He's a nice kid and good athlete, I'm not bagging on him.

[quote name="hitman009" post="924095" timestamp="1291300231"] The lights were an entire grid block.  Most of Newport was out. I don’t think anyone associated with Crosby football could knock out an entire grid… [/quote] I disagree.... I think Merka could knock out an entire grid. He and Chuck Norris. :)

[quote name="octfeb" post="924065" timestamp="1291297053"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=76796.msg924050#msg924050 date=1291294835] [quote author=hitman009 link=topic=76796.msg923539#msg923539 date=1291224968] Well if that is your case then Merka out performed both Dayton kids!!!! Merka had more yards rushing than Jakari and Merka had [b]more passing yard than herrea [/b] so what is your conclusion now?????? Mine lead me to only one..... Other coaches are not going to vote for a kid who plays for Crosby!!! [b]Give me some FACTS[/b] and help me change my mind!!!!  I don't think you are going to find them!! [/quote] Name              Comp Att   Pct     Yds   TD  INT Dominic Merka  143    306  46.73  2101  12  10 Name              Comp  Att   Pct      Yds   TD  INT Andres Herrera  125   188   66.49  1642  16  5 I think Andres has a pretty strong case for best QB in the district, especially when you look at attempt, comp. %, etc. I said earlier in this thread that I expected Merka to get MVP or Off. MVP because he was extremely important to his team. I'm just giving you some facts. Also... Jakari only missed the majority of the Crosby game and the CEK game. [/quote] Jakari was in the wreck, missed the NF game broke his leg in the next game against Crosby and missed the C.E. King game. [/quote] my bad... forgot about the NF game and wreck. the compound fracture made me forget.

[quote name="hitman009" post="923539" timestamp="1291224968"] Well if that is your case then Merka out performed both Dayton kids!!!! Merka had more yards rushing than Jakari and Merka had [b]more passing yard than herrea [/b] so what is your conclusion now?????? Mine lead me to only one..... Other coaches are not going to vote for a kid who plays for Crosby!!! [b]Give me some FACTS[/b] and help me change my mind!!!!  I don't think you are going to find them!! [/quote] Name              Comp Att  Pct    Yds  TD  INT Dominic Merka  143    306  46.73  2101  12  10 Name              Comp  Att  Pct      Yds  TD  INT Andres Herrera  125  188  66.49  1642  16  5 I think Andres has a pretty strong case for best QB in the district, especially when you look at attempt, comp. %, etc. I said earlier in this thread that I expected Merka to get MVP or Off. MVP because he was extremely important to his team. I'm just giving you some facts. Also... Jakari only missed the majority of the Crosby game and the CEK game.

[quote name="Sgt Rey" post="923341" timestamp="1291210400"] [quote author=Cool Hand Luke link=topic=76798.msg923330#msg923330 date=1291208967] I am surprised at the uproar over all district.  The watered down all district selections happen in all sports in 20-4A.  If you have paid attention it seems the standards change each year to fit who the most influential coaches want to get recognized from their team.  I compare it to summer league all star selections when kids make it due to being related to a coach; because every team feels they have to be represented whether they have a player deserving of the recognition; or [b]because they have a good looking momma. ;)     [/b] [/quote] LOL! :D...Go Moms! :D :D [/quote] To get all that recognition, both of Trevin's moms must be HOTTT!!!  :D ;D :D ;D

[quote name="Who'sYourPatty?" post="923364" timestamp="1291212180"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=76796.msg923361#msg923361 date=1291211957] [quote author=Who'sYourPatty? link=topic=76796.msg923358#msg923358 date=1291211723] [quote author=dayton link=topic=76796.msg923355#msg923355 date=1291211519] if that's the real list... wow plus they misspelled (sp? :D) Delasbour terribly [/quote] They have it "Delasboer". [/quote] oh... the list said delasober. [/quote] Yes. My typo on here and I do not know that young man well enough to catch it. [/quote] it's no biggie... Just made me think you were tricking us.  :D Anyhow... coaches vote on these right??

[quote name="Who'sYourPatty?" post="923358" timestamp="1291211723"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=76796.msg923355#msg923355 date=1291211519] if that's the real list... wow plus they misspelled (sp? :D) Delasbour terribly [/quote] They have it "Delasboer". [/quote] oh... the list said delasober.

if that's the real list... wow plus they misspelled (sp? :D) Delasbour terribly

[quote name="hitman009" post="922813" timestamp="1291140343"] [quote author=fo5 link=topic=76796.msg922551#msg922551 date=1291091177] merka this merka that.i playd with him for 3yr he ISNT a good qb! he's a good ath playn qb he couldnt hit the side of a barn from 10yds out.i seen it for 3yr.was he cros off? yea,you would b to if coach made plays just for you! but he throws the ball to.ha go look at the tape no ball thrown ova 20yds haha but he's a qb nope he's a ath playn qb. cros didnt have any good wr's? go look at the rosters we had young wr's that grew up as the reason went on..but look at #1 and #22 stats senior wr's that made plays WHEN we got the ball.also #11 a good rb that made plays to.but cros didnt have anybody else? ha naw cros had playmakers.but its hard to be a playmaker when your HEAD coach wnts only one player (merK) to get the ball.anybody could of playd qb for cros all you need to be able to do is...b able drop back an FAKE lik your goin to pass then run or as lng as you can threw bwt 10 to 20yds.then you'll b the perfect ''QB'' for coach flagain...anybody wana go to crosby? there lookn for a QB... [/quote]Anyone want to bet that this guy is one of the talented and educated WR that Merka has had to work with for 3 years that could not block or even go get a ball in the air?? Probally the same one that whinned all year that he was not getting the ball... ANYONE????, ANYONE???? Well attitude like this kid is the reason why Crosby had a losing record this year... always someone else to blame for your mistakes... a [/quote] gotta agree with you. Wayyyy too much talent in Crosby to have a season like that.

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