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[quote name="bmrm" post="1176795" timestamp="1329100664"] DV you profess to be knowledgeable of this area & question urban flight?  Have you not heard of the city of Lumberton?  [b]People are & have been getting the he!! out of Dodge(BISD) for years now & [u]99.9% has nothing to do with basketball[/b[/u]]. [/quote] My nominee for "[i][b]Understatement of the Year[/b][/i]"!

Guys, If I understand Dickie V's reasoning correctly, I can see what he means.  Look at it this way.  Coach English is getting about 95% out of his players... This is a result of great coaching!  But Nederland is just about as good as they are going to get this year. But Ozen (and Central) has players with far more athletic potential and the coaching staff is NOT getting the most out of their potentials... let's say 60-70% (although the exact number is open to debate), the point is, that the Ozen team can be much, MUCH better with some better coaching. So, is DV picking on Nederland?  I don't think so.  But much like the HJ faithful who react like pitbulls when they feel HJ Is being maligned, the Nederland faithful are absolutely certain that DV is drinking HatorAde when it comes to Nederland. Frankly, I see his point.  There is a coaching vacuum in Beaumont that is holding the Panthers and Jaguars from competing at the level that they could be (considering the talent on the teams). I hope I didn't muddy up the waters even further.

[quote name="True Blue" post="1176560" timestamp="1329064799"] [quote author=Sportsman5 link=topic=95837.msg1176544#msg1176544 date=1329060954] How about you have to have a .500 winning percentage to atleast make playoffs, under .500 should be a no no!! [/quote] That would not work, You would have more teams playing ,like Vidor, Playing a bunch of 1a and private schools early in the yr, to pad there record.. [/quote]No, that would NEVER happen.... oh, never mind.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1176578" timestamp="1329067006"] I think the chances are pretty good that they will be in Huntsville. [/quote]Being that most teams haven't played a team like Silsbee this year (the closest being those who played Navasota, I would guess), this seems somewhat possible... even likely. The one thing that Sislbee has to avoid is foul trouble.  I'm afraid that is going to be their Achilles Heel.

[quote name="tokenwb" post="1176572" timestamp="1329066442"] Just change the Glen Rose to Silsbee and it would be perfect. [/quote]No, some of those trophies in the case look like State Titles.... can't be Silsbee!  8)

[quote name="bullets13" post="1176227" timestamp="1328986528"] i like the top 2 advancing.  beyond that, i don't care.  looking at a district like 21-3A, where Silsbee and HJ have ended up proving to be the best two teams in region three on several occasions over the past few years, it would be a shame to only allow one team from the district advance to the playoffs.  but that being said, there are very few districts in the state where the 3rd place team is talented enough to make a deep run in the playoffs.  and 4 teams is overkill.  maybe not in a 10-team district, but certainly in a 5 or 6 team district. [/quote]But what about back in 2007 when there were 3 teams in 21-3A that were in the top 10 in the state.  I think there is the case for 3 teams in the play-offs.  Especially when you consider that some teams are late bloomers and don't peak until the latter half of district play.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1175651" timestamp="1328911460"] [quote author=409boi link=topic=95666.msg1175638#msg1175638 date=1328909982] i'm with u on that diaperdandy19 hes a great player but bad temperature [/quote] Funny how the people from Silsbee think SP has a bad temper!!! ::) ::) ::) [/quote]read it again. He says Sean has a fever (bad temperature), not temper.

[quote name="ABSENT!" post="1175509" timestamp="1328899690"] I am late to this topic... But the ONLY reason the the BMT schools would not still run the district, is because of coaching.  Yeah, I said it!  Sorry to say, but the truth hurts!  I still wonder if Silsbee maintain there success once the new coach has a team that is all his? [/quote]I don't think that will be a problem.....

[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1175409" timestamp="1328889936"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95731.msg1175348#msg1175348 date=1328884506] My favorite part about playing basketball in the Hamshire Fannett Gym?  The Big sign on one of the walls that said, "[b]If you can't be an athlete, [u]be an athletic supporter[/u][/b]!".  ;D [/quote] From the movie, 'Grease'!  ;D [/quote]yes, but you expect that in a movie, but noy in real life.

My favorite part about playing basketball in the Hamshire Fannett Gym?  The Big sign on one of the walls that said, "[b]If you can't be an athlete, [u]be an athletic supporter[/u][/b]!".  ;D

Boy, that ought to jinx them.

[quote name="bullets13" post="1175159" timestamp="1328827815"] i don't have a problem with them playing OR flipping.  i'd love to see HJ and Silsbee get a huge challenge right before playoffs to get their frame of mind back to competitive basketball, and away from the blowouts they've lined up in district.  that being said, i can also understand a coach wanting to flip and avoid wearing the kids out, or maybe lining up a warmup game against a lesser opponent to work on some things against a team of the caliber that they'll be playing in the first round or two.  [b] as a fan, i'd love to watch a 3rd game between HJ and Silsbee.[/b] [/quote]Hopefully you will!  In Hunstville!

[quote name="Wampus Kitty" post="1175269" timestamp="1328843153"] WOS by 7 Coach Wilkins will have the mustangs ready to go [/quote]He'd better have them ready to hold on.  WOS has been a little lacking in the 2nd half during district play.

[quote name="bullets13" post="1175249" timestamp="1328838036"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95677.msg1175243#msg1175243 date=1328837517] There is something about HJ's and Silsbee's press that I'm always floored by.  When I played (no, we weren't STILL using peach baskets!) we pressed all game long.  We were pressed by teams like HJ and a few others. But nobody was able to press on a missed shot.  The only time you could do a full court press was on a made shot.  I always marvel when I see teams get the rebound, turn around, and are staring into the teeth of a full court press. Of course, the answer to that would be, kick the ball out and get it up the court BEFORE they can set up the Press.  I'm not sure why I don't see that done today. [/quote] IF the team gets too preoccupied trying to get players up the court, they're gonna get burned by HJ and Silsbee on the offensive end if guys starting cheating back the other way.  Just my opinion. [/quote]Yeah, and I guess doing that would also cause a fast-paced game, which plays right into the hands of both teams.

There is something about HJ's and Silsbee's press that I'm always floored by.  When I played (no, we weren't STILL using peach baskets!) we pressed all game long.  We were pressed by teams like HJ and a few others. But nobody was able to press on a missed shot.  The only time you could do a full court press was on a made shot.  I always marvel when I see teams get the rebound, turn around, and are staring into the teeth of a full court press. Of course, the answer to that would be, kick the ball out and get it up the court BEFORE they can set up the Press.  I'm not sure why I don't see that done today.

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1175191" timestamp="1328831156"] Its also kinda funny how Silsbee fans arent trying to make a case for dominance like a few of you guys are.. :D Seem to be getting responses from HJ people [/quote]Dog, you were real quick to point out last year how "not so good" HJ was, simply because Nederland beat them last year.  Well, does that mean the shoe is on the other foot? HJ beat Nederland pretty badly during the same part of the season.  [u][b]By your reasoning[/b][/u], what kind of a case do you have the Nederland shouldn't be 3rd?

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1175115" timestamp="1328823620"] Its a different style of Ball then what the teams in 20-4A are used to playing.. Execution and fundamentals in the Half-court are more important and mean more in getting a victory.. As for HJ and Silsbee, better warm-up your legs and have press-breaks ready.. I think the 20-4A teams would perform much better if they were used the those types of games.. I can take heat for this comment and wont bother me, but Silsbee and HJ's players arent studs by any means.. They fit the system, like a glove.. Run the press, attack, sub when you are tired.. [/quote]No, I think you're right.  And that's one of the reasons that I think HJ and Silsbee are so successful in the play-offs.  Some of those teams, who are awfully good, make you wonder if they have ever seen a decent press in their lives. Good point.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1175078" timestamp="1328818410"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95677.msg1175074#msg1175074 date=1328817612] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95677.msg1175036#msg1175036 date=1328814396] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95677.msg1174975#msg1174975 date=1328806832] If Silsbee were to play Nederland, Ozen, or Central the way they played their two games against HF or their two games against WOS, then yes indeed, they would have lost several of those games. But also, bear in mind, although HJ beat Nederland and Central, I was [b]hazard to guess that Nederland and Central have improved much more since those earlier games than HJ has[/b].  Those games would be neck and neck if played during district. [/quote] What makes you "hazard to guess" that HJs improvement vs the beginning the first of the year is not equal to or better than that of Nederland and Central?  Wouldn't you need to have seen several of each teams games since early in the season to make that guess or are you simply using recent scores as the basis?  ( recent scores dont seem to support the contention) [/quote]Steve, you love to question everyone's [b]opinion[/b], don't you!  i can easily say Nederland because several of their players were still in Football when they played HJ.  Onthe flip side, HJ was in 4th gear from the very first game of the season. [/quote] Well, I always thought that this board was intended to be an avenue where ideas and opinions are exchanged.  Just curious why you felt that way.  Plenty of people (including you sometimes) play devils advocate on this board.  Have learned many things over the years by doing so.  Nederland has had a couple of letdowns in recent times(long after football is a memory) so I dont think the football theory is as valid as you do but obviously, it's only my opinion. [/quote]well, as Pumper pointed out, I may be in error in thinking Nederland was missing a couple of starters. My bad. I may have been thinking of last years team where their center was the starting qb in football. But in any event, HJ looked to be in mid-season form their very first game, and Sutherland has not let them lose that groove. So IMO, its easy to think that many teams have improved since the beginning of the year more than HJ, because HJ has been that darn good since the opening tip off of the opening game.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1175036" timestamp="1328814396"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95677.msg1174975#msg1174975 date=1328806832] If Silsbee were to play Nederland, Ozen, or Central the way they played their two games against HF or their two games against WOS, then yes indeed, they would have lost several of those games. But also, bear in mind, although HJ beat Nederland and Central, I was [b]hazard to guess that Nederland and Central have improved much more since those earlier games than HJ has[/b].  Those games would be neck and neck if played during district. [/quote] What makes you "hazard to guess" that HJs improvement vs the beginning the first of the year is not equal to or better than that of Nederland and Central?  Wouldn't you need to have seen several of each teams games since early in the season to make that guess or are you simply using recent scores as the basis?  ( recent scores dont seem to support the contention) [/quote]Steve, you love to question everyone's [b]opinion[/b], don't you!  i can easily say Nederland because several of their players were still in Football when they played HJ.  Onthe flip side, HJ was in 4th gear from the very first game of the season.

[quote name="Tigersvoice" post="1174981" timestamp="1328807236"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95683.msg1174978#msg1174978 date=1328806963] Who was it that said, "Just win, Baby!" [/quote] Practically everyone. :) [/quote]Ahhhh, but it was Al Davis who made it famous!

Who was it that said, "Just win, Baby!" 

If Silsbee were to play Nederland, Ozen, or Central the way they played their two games against HF or their two games against WOS, then yes indeed, they would have lost several of those games. But also, bear in mind, although HJ beat Nederland and Central, I was hazard to guess that Nederland and Central have improved much more since those earlier games than HJ has.  Those games would be neck and neck if played during district.

BTW, is Buna going to follow the lead of that school up north and get rid of their mascot, so as not to offend older women who chase younger men? The saddest part of that statement is that a school did indeed change their names from "the cougars" to something else in deference to well..... cougars!

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1174910" timestamp="1328799933"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95694.msg1174903#msg1174903 date=1328799597] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95694.msg1174901#msg1174901 date=1328799422] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95694.msg1174890#msg1174890 date=1328798753] I don't think Ozen is going to rebound quite so easy from Tuesday's debacle.  Nederland will take this 50-42. [/quote] Do you want to bet $20 with Dickie? [/quote]Um.... no. [/quote] Chicken.... 8) [/quote]Nope.  I just thought this was a high school basketball forum, and not an online gambling service.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1174901" timestamp="1328799422"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95694.msg1174890#msg1174890 date=1328798753] I don't think Ozen is going to rebound quite so easy from Tuesday's debacle.  Nederland will take this 50-42. [/quote] Do you want to bet $20 with Dickie? [/quote]Um.... no.