FanintheStands

OK, I've checked out two threads this morning.... 1) is the YMBL update thread 2) is the Silsbee / WB game at the YMBL tournament. And all I've read about is the pro's and con's of the HJ schedule.  Its funny, HJ isn't even at the YMBL tournament. Do you guys think you can start up a thread on HJ's schedule and beat each other to death on that thread instead of ruining all these other threads that have nothing to do with HJ? Just wonderin'...................

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1136852" timestamp="1322792828"] Why do i care? I only state facts! U know it's weak bro! Where else is HJ playing besides a tourney they put together to blow everyone out? The BMT Kelly Tourney? The Bridge City Invitational? [/quote]Ahhh.... welcome back BS.  Its been a while since we've seen this side of you!  Welcome back! Again, this has been the formula for HJ for the last several years.  You judge a tree by its fruits!  You want to question HJ's methods, it  only looks you look.... well.... silly.

[quote name="Roper84" post="1136656" timestamp="1322774651"] I'd love to see HJ in the YMBL.  Quite a field. I know they been going to AP, but it might be time to change gears. [/quote]I think that the coach wants to get the teams game legs under them.  They'll play 6 games this weekend, 6 games next weekend, and (if they do what they did last year) they'll throw in another game Tuesday.  That's 13 games in 10 days. You learn a lot about your players in just 10 days. Bottom line is, like it or not, you can't argue with the results!

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1136404" timestamp="1322761444"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=92470.msg1136383#msg1136383 date=1322760685] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=92470.msg1136349#msg1136349 date=1322759221] [quote author=momma23 link=topic=92470.msg1136336#msg1136336 date=1322758826] The students doing the commentary did a graet job! They were awesome. I can't wait to hear them again! [/quote] You don't listen to my broadcast anymore??? [/quote]hmmmm.... let's see. [b]You were supposed to provide a live feed and failed. [/b] These two high schoolers were able to upload a live feed.  Its would seem we have no choice! [/quote] Failed?  Called technical difficulties which have been resolved.  Also, never have had a live feed, just an audio broadcast!!! [/quote]Ha!  Just yanking your chain, brother!! But those two High School kids did adequately fill in for you while you were having "technical difficulties"!  ;)

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1136349" timestamp="1322759221"] [quote author=momma23 link=topic=92470.msg1136336#msg1136336 date=1322758826] The students doing the commentary did a graet job! They were awesome. I can't wait to hear them again! [/quote] You don't listen to my broadcast anymore??? [/quote]hmmmm.... let's see. You were supposed to provide a live feed and failed.  These two high schoolers were able to upload a live feed.  Its would seem we have no choice!

[quote name="setxslam" post="1134993" timestamp="1322620656"] We just watched a live stream of this game on Ustream.  The two HJ kids who called the game did an outstanding job.  Send the tape to ESPN! [/quote]Is there any way we can download this?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="998646" timestamp="1303018654"] [quote author=Wildcatter link=topic=83109.msg998402#msg998402 date=1302972729] HF is in the Orangefield tourney [/quote]HF needs to start playing in tougher tourneys [/quote]Oh, I don't know about that.  Vidor had an easy tournament schedule and it certainly seemed to work for th.........Oops..... Nevermind.  ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="996924" timestamp="1302716541"] Graduating from Rice speaks well for him.  Some consider Rice to be the Harvard of the Southwest [/quote]My dad says that his favorite cheer at A&M was, "[i]What comes out of a china-man's butt?  RICE!  RICE[/i]!" I apologize in advance for that comment.

[quote name="stevenash" post="996990" timestamp="1302723183"] Stop it-all ov ewe- itz difacolt two egnowr yore  pore grahmer [/quote]My grahmer was not poor!!!!  She was a wealthy widow woman.

[quote name="True Blue" post="996490" timestamp="1302655527"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=82957.msg996449#msg996449 date=1302648438] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=82957.msg996013#msg996013 date=1302571669] That just depends on what stats your looking at. I dont know for sure but I would bet that Gus led in [b]butt[/b]. and steals, and that is the only stats that matter to a true point guard.  JMO but Gus  was the best true point guard in SETX this year. [/quote]Oh, I agree that Gus is the best true pg in SETX.... no doubt.  But I don't believe that his true worth showed up in the scorers' books. BTW, what is "butt."?  ??? [/quote] ;D ;D I dont know what a butt is ;D I put a s s for assist, and looks like the monters changed it for me ;D [/quote]  :D :D  Oh, OK... I get it!!! But now I'm confused.... what is a "monter"?  ;) Man, did I just have a stevenash moment?  I think I need to go take some aspirin.

[quote name="True Blue" post="996013" timestamp="1302571669"] That just depends on what stats your looking at. I dont know for sure but I would bet that Gus led in [b]butt[/b]. and steals, and that is the only stats that matter to a true point guard.  JMO but Gus  was the best true point guard in SETX this year. [/quote]Oh, I agree that Gus is the best true pg in SETX.... no doubt.  But I don't believe that his true worth showed up in the scorers' books. BTW, what is "butt."?  ???

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="995921" timestamp="1302561097"] Oh did I say blue....I was thinking I mean I meant to say you...lol [/quote]Dr. Freud would be proud!

[quote name="True Blue" post="995956" timestamp="1302566454"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=82957.msg995701#msg995701 date=1302537637] I agree that Adam Stark should have been on the Super Gold team, but he is not the only local player playing in the TABC all star game. [/quote] [u][b]Your right about Adam, but this a case were just stats were looked at,and not what he ment to his team.[/b][/u] This years Evadale Team was made up of 4 very good players but together they were a verygood team. Deven led the team in scoring, Blane led in rebounds, and led the State in blocks, but was 2 in scoring and 2 in steals . Adam was 3 in scoring 2 in rebounds, and Tucker lead the team in steals,3 in rebounds and had a great State game. I know this is a indivdual award, But Evadale would not have made it past the first round of the playoffs if they had not all pulled together as a team. [/quote]Well, Garrett Gustafson would be the exception to that.  The young man was invaluable to the HJ Hawks, but his numbers didn't reflect it.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="990760" timestamp="1301519329"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=82466.msg990740#msg990740 date=1301517083] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=82466.msg990690#msg990690 date=1301511356] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=82466.msg990603#msg990603 date=1301503517] Not every time, just 8 of the last 11 to be exact. ;D [/quote] LOL!!!!!! [/quote] HJ may have lost 8 of 11 to Silsbee, but what has that proved? [/quote] Here we go. ::) Uh, maybe that Silsbee is better head to head? I don't know. ::) But we are getting off topic. [/quote]Yeah, I remember in the 2009 NFL season, the Dallas Cowboys were strutting around because they beat New Orleans.  Meanwhile New Orleans was strutting around because they had the Vince Lombardi trophy. Yes, Silsbee has beat HJ 8 out of 11, but the last 5 years, HJ has gone farther than Silsbee in the play-offs 3 out of 5 (including that time they "brought home the gold". To quote a wise sage, "... but what has that proved"?  ;)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="987741" timestamp="1300988287"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=81681.msg987719#msg987719 date=1300984645] One more question, Dove.  You mentioned if HF had 4 "ballers"-  Can you define "ballers" for me?  I have a feeling that,when they were drafted in the same year, Allen Iverson would have been perceived as a "baller" and Ray Allen would not have been.  Isn't it interesting how things have worked out?  The Knicks are playing 500(%) ball since the addition of Carmelo Anthony while the Nuggets have won 8 of 11 during the same time frame.  I guess they found a way to survive with one less "baller".  ;D [/quote]In HF's case, a baller is anyone who truly loves the game and willing to improve and learn from a good coach.  Take the extra minute to learn the game. Know the difference between a baseball and a basketball. [/quote]... and I think therein lies the problem.  In the 8th to 9th grade you've got "ballers" as you explained.  Then, for various reasons, the ballers lose their interest/focus.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="987665" timestamp="1300974931"] Yeah, but theory can be more fun than reality. Lets use HF as the example (again). If our kids apply the principles & rules of playing basketball (skill training, games,mental exercise, etc)  all summer for about 4-5 hours a day, my theory tells me we can whip HJ and Silsbee butt next season ;D [/quote]That's a good theory. But in reality, if your kids spent 4-5 hours a day in the gym all summer they'd be burnt out on basketball and HJ and Silsbee would once again whip's HF's butt next season. Just goes to show that there is a difference between theory and reality.  ;)

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="986909" timestamp="1300834484"] I agree with you buddy. HJ may go to state next year. Those two studs they have coming back will be hard to handle. Silsbee will play small ball next year and may have a hard time against bigger teams. [/quote]Sounds like it may be a repeat of this year for Silsbee.  This year's first game against HF should have been a warning to Silsbee this year..... a warning that came to against Sealy.

[quote name="east texas bb" post="987188" timestamp="1300851044"] Those are goals for short term success or winning, but if you want to continually win you have to have a strong youth program, which you will usually see if you have the above ingredients.  A coach can add those qualties in a few years if the conditions are right for him to do so. Another ingredient that is left out is you have to have a little luck especially when the playoffs start.  Another ingredient is Serventhood, or the ability to give up oneself for the team concept. But I like all the ingredients you listed, those are without doubt needed to win. JMO [/quote]Ahhhhh!!!!!  I can't believe I missed that!  Good catch. But to your point, yes HJ has a solid youth program that is the envy of many other programs........ But HF also seems to have just as solid a foundation.  Something just seems to go amiss during the transition from 8th (and maybe 9th) grade to Varsity.  The wheels on the HF bus just seem to fall off, and most miserably at that.

[quote name="stevenash" post="986863" timestamp="1300830131"] What ingredient(s) missing from the Longhorn varsity? [/quote]Look at the ingredients that HJ has that make them perennial powerhouses (Yes, I know this was meant for Dove, but I've got two cents worth in my pocket): - Talent - Discipline - Tradition - Self-Confidence (Belief in oneself and the team) - Fan Support As you can see, HF currently has only one of those ingredients.  But a good coach can add the remaining ingredients in 2-3 short years (I'm thinking of what Coach English has done in Nederland in a remarkably short time).

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="986628" timestamp="1300798596"] Look Stevenash, [u][b]Sour Lake has a population of 500 vs Silsbee with a population of 6300[/b][/u]. Of course there will be more crime. What is Sour Lake know for? Deer Hunting? Come on man don't go there. I know more about that little town than you think I would know. [/quote] ... and yet who has 3 state titles in basketball and who has none?  ::) ::)

[quote name="Scooter!" post="986649" timestamp="1300801767"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81856.msg986643#msg986643 date=1300800569] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=81856.msg986477#msg986477 date=1300752509] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81856.msg986421#msg986421 date=1300741265] [quote author=Scooter! link=topic=81856.msg986361#msg986361 date=1300735338] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81856.msg986355#msg986355 date=1300734317] [quote author=ST11 link=topic=81856.msg984360#msg984360 date=1300383743] [quote author=Malcolm X link=topic=81856.msg984262#msg984262 date=1300372996] I like Hamshire chances [/quote] doubtful.. atleast Silsbee can make playoffs consistantly [/quote][b]With a good coach, HF will give Silsbee fits next season [/b] ;) [/quote]in what? golf?  :D [/quote]I guess it will take awhile to get over Rodney Dangerfield reputation. [/quote]No, all it takes is a good play-off run. [/quote] ;) [/quote]you have to actually make the play-offs to have a chance at a long playoff run  ;) ;D [/quote]Dove, I think you may want to save this post for a future "in your face" thread.  I think that thread will be necessary in the next year or two.  ;)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="986421" timestamp="1300741265"] [quote author=Scooter! link=topic=81856.msg986361#msg986361 date=1300735338] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81856.msg986355#msg986355 date=1300734317] [quote author=ST11 link=topic=81856.msg984360#msg984360 date=1300383743] [quote author=Malcolm X link=topic=81856.msg984262#msg984262 date=1300372996] I like Hamshire chances [/quote] doubtful.. atleast Silsbee can make playoffs consistantly [/quote][b]With a good coach, HF will give Silsbee fits next season [/b] ;) [/quote]in what? golf?  :D [/quote]I guess it will take awhile to get over Rodney Dangerfield reputation. [/quote]No, all it takes is a good play-off run.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="986302" timestamp="1300728464"] Doesn't Silsbee have like 12 Power Lifting State Titles? [b]Seriously that counts doesn't it? [/b]Also they have won a few boys/girls state track&field titles. Boys basketball have been to state 5 times and girls 4 times. Still not bad. [/quote]No, it only counts in the [b][i]Power Lifting Forum[/i][/b].  Sorry, BS.

[quote name="bmrm" post="985490" timestamp="1300505639"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81853.msg984210#msg984210 date=1300369502] [quote author=Malcolm X link=topic=81853.msg984208#msg984208 date=1300369325] No!! [/quote] ::) "Ever" is a long time. ;) [/quote] Yes it is but will we see it in the near future?  [/quote]Silsbee has all the right ingredients necessary to win the State Title. Talent Tradition Coaching A good program to develop the kids at a young age A community that supports them. To me, it is only a matter of time.  IOW, its not "if" but "when".

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="985099" timestamp="1300484466"] HJ does not have someone in WWF either, but that doesn't mean much. HJ has sensual vanilla (LAZEEK) the counter part to sexual chocolate.... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [/quote]Well, there goes any desire to eat tonight......