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[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="984813" timestamp="1300456492"] :D, Look, wE'RE the Rodney Dangerfield of high school basketball. Somebody gotta pump HF up. Plus I'm having a lot of fun with you naysayers. Warning! A bunch of yall better pray HF don't go into playoffs. You think I promote HF now? oH BOY! I'll start my own radio show and demand time on the major telly stations in S.E.Texas and maybe S.W. Louisiana ;D [/quote]To be more accurate, I would call ya'll "[i]The Hardin Jefferson Football of high school basketball[/i]"!!!  ;)

[quote name="Bobcat05" post="984230" timestamp="1300371244"] Why are you trying to convince me they should be ranked, I've already said (three times now) that I thought they should, I was just giving a reason on why that might not have been. Look at 1A Evadale, lost in the semis of the state tourny, yet in the final polls they are #2. What about the team that actually made it to the finals?  They got beat pretty bad, so because Evadale played the champs pretty dang close, I'd [i]GUESS [/i] that's why they are ranked over the team that actually made it to the finals of state.  I could be wrong, but ---- NEDERLAND SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE TOP 25!!! [/quote]Bobcat, I wish you wouldn't be so evasive.... Just what are your feelings regarding Nederland?  C'mon, Man!  Get off the fence!  ;)

[quote name="Lt. Dangle" post="983697" timestamp="1300279566"] [quote author=speechless link=topic=81492.msg983694#msg983694 date=1300279165] they did not get championship games on saturday and how come no one is talking about how the kid who made the pass packed his bags and took a trip to Jamaica he traveled so bad [/quote] They DID get a final game on Saturday!!!!!!!!!! See below [b]The Evadale box score (with officials)[/b]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Officials: [u][b]Jeff Hooten, JD Rachal, Danny Bowman[/b][/u]Technical fouls: Evadale-None. Clyde Eula-None. Attendance: 4631 Score by Periods                1st  2nd  3rd  4th   Total Evadale.......................   11   17   11   12  -   51 Clyde Eula....................   17    9    9   19  -   54 Game 2 - Conference 1A Division I Semifinal Here they are again!!!! [color=crimson][b]Saturday 1A-Div.2 Final[/b][/color]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Officials: [b][u]Jeff Hooten, JD Rachal, Danny Bowman[/u][/b]Technical fouls: Bronte-None. Paducah-None. Attendance: 12414 Score by Periods                1st  2nd  3rd  4th   Total Bronte........................    6    9    7    8  -   30 Paducah.......................    6   11   19    9  -   45 Game 17 - Conference 1A Division II Final [/quote]ECBucFan, THIS is why you don't question the refs when you weren't at the game. IOW, do you believe me now?  ;)

[quote name="bmrm" post="983411" timestamp="1300242320"] [quote author=ForeverADog link=topic=81741.msg983092#msg983092 date=1300221809] Amazing? Its amazing how much HJ will SUCK next year! [/quote] Yep - will probably be in a battle with BC for last place in district. [/quote]Wait, are we in the basketball forums or football?!?!?  I'm confused!  ;)

[quote name="tigersvoice" post="983138" timestamp="1300225401"] [quote author=ForeverADog link=topic=81741.msg983097#msg983097 date=1300222251] No really. HJ should go undefeated next year in district. Prudhomme district MVP. Its Silsbee turn to "rebuild" [/quote] Well you have forgotten about H-F and their predicted "Surgence."  (This is a word that I just coined.  It's taken from an actual word, resurgence; which means to rise again into life, activity, or prominence.  Since this is "not an AGAIN" for H-F, their life, activity or prominence cannot be resurgence.  It is therfore surgence.) ;D ;D ;D  :o (Watch my smite count on this one. 8)) [/quote]What's the difference between HF and a Phoenix?  At least a Phoenix rises from the ashes once every 500 years!!!! Sorry, Dove, I couldn't resist!

In other news, Hardin Jefferson will suffer through its fifth consecutive re-building year.... and make it to the state tournament.  With a little luck, another state trophy may be coming back to Sour Lake with them...... Providing the refs can tell when the final buzzer sounds!  ;)

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="982792" timestamp="1300157185"] One particular applicant stands out to me........would be a great hire for HF and his system would fit what the HF people are looking for!!! [/quote]Stop it.  You're making me blush. ;D

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="981721" timestamp="1299936524"] The championship games are not predetermined on who will officiate those games. The crews who officiate the semis are evaluated and then 6 crews out of the 12 get chosen to do the 6 championship games. That's how it was explained to me by an official who has called at the state tourney. [/quote]Now that, I believe!  ;)

[quote name="gdickert" post="981650" timestamp="1299904537"] Here's what I'm hearing about the lottery funding education ... Basically, it's all BS ... All the money brought in by the Texas lottery indeed goes to education ... Let's say $50 million was provided to education by the lottery. Now originally, education had a budget from general funds of $100 million. So you add $100 million and $50 million and you get $150 million ... right?? Nope. Now they only contribute $50 million from the general fund instead of $100 million. That of course means that in the end, education still has its original $100 million ... A little political switcheroo there for ya ... Raise your hand if you're surprised ... [/quote]This is EXACTLY the way its been done and it is dis-honest for politicians to claim that the lottery is going to education. What the politicians should say is, "the lottery pays for education so that other monies originally ear-marked for education can pay for something else."

[quote name="True Blue" post="981352" timestamp="1299880633"] [quote author=mckinney link=topic=81505.msg981331#msg981331 date=1299878151] What happened to the Texas lottery funding the schools?   >:( :o Where has that money gone to?  Legislature always get the community to vote on one thing and once it his the floor, funds are redirected....poor kids....cutting out Pre K...come on... [/quote] You need to look at your Rep. Governer Rick Perry. He has never worked a job a day in his life yet he is now worth a Million Dollars. Just like the Superintendent in Beaumont. How many Teachers could be payed with his salary?? [/quote]Hmmmm...... Was Rick Perry poor when he got into office and then became rich?  Or was he rich long before he became governor.  I'm not sure I'd put him in the same category as Butch.

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="981686" timestamp="1299910576"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=81492.msg980856#msg980856 date=1299795560] [quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=81492.msg980849#msg980849 date=1299794953] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=81492.msg980834#msg980834 date=1299793387] [quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=81492.msg980826#msg980826 date=1299792135] [quote author=Scooter! link=topic=81492.msg980773#msg980773 date=1299788365] Sad way to lose but you cant blame the refs if you let them back into the game [/quote] Evadale was whistled to death! [/quote]...uh, how can you tell if you weren't there? [/quote] Did you read ANY of the posts in this thread? Their inside force Dunigan FOULED OUT, and Tucker had to play with 4 fouls, and then monkey business with the clock in the final seconds, etc. Also posters questioning if the Evadale coach confronted the refs... Yeah, I get the ugly picture real good. Can't you? [/quote]When I see a player fouled out, its usually because they committed more fouls.  I didn't read pages 1-4 on this thread.  I was working. Monkey business with the clock is simply poor officiating.  But "whistled to death" implies that the ref's were being lenient toward Eula's players and tougher on Evadale's.  IOW's the ref's were cheating.  I wouldn't even begin to trust anyone who claimed that unless they were at the game and saw the bad calls.... even then I have my doubts.  People tend to see what they want to see when it comes to personal fouls in basketball. The last second shot is another thing, however. [/quote] Refs dismissed. Believe me now? [/quote]I believe that a broken clock has the right time twice a day.   I believe that even a blind hog can sometimes find an acorn. I believe that those who attended the game said the ref's weren't that bad, other than the last call. I also believe that the ref's had a schedule of who's calling each semi and who's calling the championship.  Which means, these refs weren't scheduled to call the championship game and this was determined prior to the Evadale-Eula game. But I don't believe that you, ECBucFan, can tell that the ref's were awful while sitting in your comfortable chair in front of a computer. So, to answer your question..... [i]No, I don't believe you now. [/i]

[quote name="bullets13" post="981243" timestamp="1299870872"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=81552.msg980892#msg980892 date=1299799594] Burkburnett won by 9.. Plays West Oso for 3A Championship [/quote] Wait, what happened to Lubbock Estacado?  I thought they were a shoo-in? [/quote]that's why they play the game........

[quote name="dogs1218" post="980878" timestamp="1299798226"] Thats what I meant ;) [/quote]Isn't it amazing how, "[i]What I said[/i]" is often not "[i]what you heard[/i]"?  ::)

[quote name="Pupmom" post="980875" timestamp="1299797605"] [quote]And then she tried to say how that Freshman team wasnt stacked  which I thought was funny[/quote] Can someone please enlighten me here?  Is this one of those cases where they think the kids all moved from PA again?  Because these boys all went to Central or C.O. except one. [/quote]No, I think he meant the Freshman team was [b]loaded with talent[/b]... so much talent that they could have won all those games with anybody as coach.

[quote name="stevenash" post="980864" timestamp="1299796452"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=81552.msg980857#msg980857 date=1299795640] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=81552.msg980854#msg980854 date=1299795453] Leads burkburnett 19-14 after falling behind 6-0 early [/quote]Is Mayweather (?) playing?  If so, is he effective? [/quote] If you mean D.J. Weathers (hurt in HJ game) he is playing and is as effective as he was in HJ game [/quote]Yeah, that's the ticket!

[quote name="stevenash" post="980854" timestamp="1299795453"] Leads burkburnett 19-14 after falling behind 6-0 early [/quote]Is Mayweather (?) playing?  If so, is he effective?

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="980849" timestamp="1299794953"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=81492.msg980834#msg980834 date=1299793387] [quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=81492.msg980826#msg980826 date=1299792135] [quote author=Scooter! link=topic=81492.msg980773#msg980773 date=1299788365] Sad way to lose but you cant blame the refs if you let them back into the game [/quote] Evadale was whistled to death! [/quote]...uh, how can you tell if you weren't there? [/quote] Did you read ANY of the posts in this thread? Their inside force Dunigan FOULED OUT, and Tucker had to play with 4 fouls, and then monkey business with the clock in the final seconds, etc. Also posters questioning if the Evadale coach confronted the refs... Yeah, I get the ugly picture real good. Can't you? [/quote]When I see a player fouled out, its usually because they committed more fouls.  I didn't read pages 1-4 on this thread.  I was working. Monkey business with the clock is simply poor officiating.  But "whistled to death" implies that the ref's were being lenient toward Eula's players and tougher on Evadale's.  IOW's the ref's were cheating.  I wouldn't even begin to trust anyone who claimed that unless they were at the game and saw the bad calls.... even then I have my doubts.  People tend to see what they want to see when it comes to personal fouls in basketball. The last second shot is another thing, however.

[quote name="dogs1218" post="980822" timestamp="1299791712"] Well pupmom thought we were bashing the Coach! Nobody said he was a bad coach or a bag guy.. We were just informing all of SETXsports.com about [b]the problem with almost everybody athletic program in the state, Need more coaches specialized in Basketbal[/b]l! And then she tried to say how that Freshman team wasnt stacked :D which I thought was funny [/quote]You know, HJ doesn't have that problem.    ;) But you may have illuminated a problem with the Hawk program.  Maybe our football team is not very good [b]because [/b]we don't hire basketball coaches that are specialized in football like nearly everybody else!!!!  :D :D :D

[quote name="Pupmom" post="980564" timestamp="1299776615"] Then you obviously did not read the pages of the Final Nederland game where the Assistant Coach was blamed for the loss because he did not tell Coach the Smith had 3 fouls.  My posting was meant to say that Coach Kilchrist knows basketball and works hard for the program. I too would like to see coaches that are hired just for basketball.  Our Varsity football program has 13 coaches, as many as college teams have.  It is outrageous the amount of money and emphasis that is placed on football.  But, my point of the post was to say that Coach Kilchrist is a great man, and he does a great job.  [/quote]Pupmom, let's play a game.  Let's play like I'm a complete idiot (this isn't a hard game... many people believe that already!  ;)) and I can't find the post that claims Nederland lost to Ball because of the assistant coaches.  You'll find that part of the thread here: [Hidden Content] I read some gripes about the coaches - some ludicrous and some merely conjecture - but I don't see anyone claiming that Nederland could have beat Ball even with some good coaches.

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="980826" timestamp="1299792135"] [quote author=Scooter! link=topic=81492.msg980773#msg980773 date=1299788365] Sad way to lose but you cant blame the refs if you let them back into the game [/quote] Evadale was whistled to death! [/quote]...uh, how can you tell if you weren't there?

[quote name="True Blue" post="980330" timestamp="1299724758"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=81352.msg980325#msg980325 date=1299724292] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=81352.msg980318#msg980318 date=1299723398] You are so right, and I know that both of the players will be so much happer ,bring home a Championship, than any one calling them SETX player of the year... Just look at who the ones are that are crowing the players that have been named. They are the same ones that said that Evadale would not win one playoff game. So we see how much credit they have ;D :D :D [/quote]Win with class, brother... don't ever forget that.  No need to rub it in. But regarding "proving everyone else wrong", welcome to the very thing that makes Hardin Jefferson basketball so special to me!!!  There is something about watching the kids go out there and beat the teams that nobody thought they would.  Of course, it would have been way-cool to have put a notch in our belt with Silsbee's name on it, but..... oh well.  ;) [/quote] [b]Oh I am not trying to rub anything in[/b]. I wish that SETX could have had 1 team in every class still in the playoffs.  What a great weekend that would have been. I dont know if Austin could have handled that many rednecks in town at one time.It just others that have a hard time giving Evadale the credit that they deserve. [/quote]I don't know.. if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......  ;) BTW, good luck to the boys!!!!  I think everyone is routing for them on these boards.... even BadSanta!!!!!

[quote name="True Blue" post="980318" timestamp="1299723398"] You are so right, and I know that both of the players will be so much happer ,bring home a Championship, than any one calling them SETX player of the year... Just look at who the ones are that are crowing the players that have been named. They are the same ones that said that Evadale would not win one playoff game. So we see how much credit they have ;D :D :D [/quote]Win with class, brother... don't ever forget that.  No need to rub it in. But regarding "proving everyone else wrong", welcome to the very thing that makes Hardin Jefferson basketball so special to me!!!  There is something about watching the kids go out there and beat the teams that nobody thought they would.  Of course, it would have been way-cool to have put a notch in our belt with Silsbee's name on it, but..... oh well.  ;)

[quote name="True Blue" post="980265" timestamp="1299715351"] I will try and put it to you this way, In the first playoff game , the Rebs were behind by 12 at half. Dunigan then put up 20 in the second half and domatated the boards on both ends and they won that game. So without him they would have lost that game. Then 2 games later Murphy hit 4 3s in the second half and opened up the game and they won that one so with out him they would not have won that game. That is why I said that right now they are the best 2 players in SETX> But if you wont to play one on one I would say the 2 guys that you all are talking about would be better. But basketball is a team sport, and most would say that winning means alot when it comes to saying who is the best.... [/quote]Basketball is a team sport, but "SETX player of the year" is not.  I don't know what to add.  As I've stated, you've claimed that Evadale has won as a team, and each game there is somebody who steps up.  In other words, no one has consistently carried the team on his shoulders. Now granted, that is probably [u][b]the number one reason that Evadale is playing in Austin this week and nobody else from the area is[/b][/u] and that is a far greater achievement than any individual awards.  But that is not germane to the topic.

Isn't Dunigan the kid that played for East Chambers last year (2009-2010)?  If so, I seem to recall him playing in the HJ Last Man Standing Tournament and he suffered something like a broken nose.  The guy played through the pain, however, and almost helped the Bucs win the Consolation Trophy.  They would have won if they had completed the most incredible play I have ever seen.  From behind the other team's goal, the player through the ball inbounds from all the way across the court... Dunigan went through a screen and tried to tap the ball in.  Why tip it in?  Because there was like .4 seconds on the clock and that's all you were allowed to do.  He came within a hairsbreadth of making the tip in!!!!!  That would have been one for the ages. If I remember correctly, Dunigan really played a good game that day, even though he was suffering through whatever injury he suffered.

[quote name="whsalum" post="978850" timestamp="1299468461"] This was the first time I 've seen Mexia this year and they shot the ball as well as anyone I've seen this year.#23 was unbelievable until he turned his ankle. [/quote]Yeah, but it was the clutch 3's by numbers 3&4 who nailed the lid on the HJ coffin.  My heart sank when those shots went in at the end.