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[quote name="bmrm" post="976981" timestamp="1299202635"] [quote author=hj1 link=topic=81203.msg976410#msg976410 date=1299169068] Should be a great game! IMO, this will be Hj's toughest test yet. [/quote] I haven't seen Mexia play, but based on how they beat Hudson a lot worse than HJ did, it appears the Hawks more than have their work cut out for them.  [/quote]Yeah, I remember that game.... HJ was flat, one of their flattest games of the year (except, of course, for the Nederland game). But remember, a week ago Cleveland "made a statement" with a blowout of 40 points against who, Coldspring? The funny thing about those blowouts is, the next game still starts at 0-0. [color=blue][font=Verdana][font=Verdana][size=12pt][b][i]Hawks, it's time to soar, Baby!!!![/i][/b][/size][/font][/font][/color]

[quote name="indian15/16" post="976790" timestamp="1299188154"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=81003.msg976611#msg976611 date=1299179500] [quote author=indian15/16 link=topic=81003.msg976580#msg976580 date=1299177279] Nash keep the term "great" relative to basketball overall: region, state, various levels, not just your team, or their district. I respect your opinion, but you have to admit, good players can have great games. [/quote] Agreed, but Prudhomme performed equally well against Stafford in an overtime game just a few nights before.  But, I guess he just happened to have two consecutive great games.  If you have many more than that, you just might be better than many think. [/quote]I'm not going to argue that he doesn't have the potential. Just don't think he's there, yet. IMO [/quote]I think you are spot-on, here.  I've watched Shawn the last couple of years and I see improvement almost weekly...... so yes, there is still a lot of potential. I wouldn't call him great, because that would imply he has peaked, which I seriously doubt.

[quote name="GoBigBlue1997" post="976176" timestamp="1299155754"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=81158.msg976144#msg976144 date=1299131821] At this point, ANY of the 16 teams can win state. Takes a lot of good and a lot of luck to bring home the trophy. Nederland has been the underdog most of the yr. They've surprised (just about) everyone! The most talented team does not always win! *See Duke Nat'l Champs over UNLV in 1991?* [/quote] I agree wth everything except the asterisk.  That Duke team played in 3 straight National Championship games including back-to-back titles in 91 and 92.  I will concede that everyone expected UNLV to win after what the did to Duke in the 90 national championship, but I cant concede that Duke wasnt just as talented as UNLV was when they met in the final four in 91.   [/quote]Ok, then that's easy.  Change Duke./UNLV with Univ. of Houston and NC State  or Villanova and Georgetown.

BTW, where is the Dove tonight?  With this win, he can brag to his friends in Houston about that 21-3A district that his boys are in!

The last state rankings (2-21-11) showed 3A looking like this: [quote]3A 1  Lubbock Estacado (32-1) 2  Argyle (30-3) 3  Cleveland (28-4) 4  Kennedale (30-2)        5  West Oso (29-3) 6  Silsbee (30-2) 7      Liberty Hill (30-4) 8  Dallas Madison (20-12)                                  9      Burkburnett (28-3)                          10    Mexia (27-5)                                        11    Hardin-Jefferson (31-6)                                                      12  Lovejoy (25-7) 13  Prosper (26-6) 14  Pleasanton (21-8)                              15  San Antonio Houston (21-7)                                        16  Dallas Smith (21-9)        17  Seminole (20-9) 18  Somerset (20-10)                                19  Hondo (24-5) 20  Decatur (27-4)                      21  Coldspring-Oakhurst (14-3)                                    22  Sweeny (22-6) 23  Midland Greenwood (26-7) 24  Groesbeck (24-10) 25  Liberty Eylau (22-5)[/quote] Which schools are still in it?

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="976138" timestamp="1299130502"] Yes, I am too dumb to count that high!!! ::) ::) [/quote]From what I heard over the radio, it would be hard to count the Cleveland rebounds.  How many 2nd and 3rd (and 4th!) chances did they get toward the end there?  Of course, it seemed to pay off somewhat with some quick fast break points.

Who would have thought that neither Cleveland nor Silsbee would be in Hunstville this weekend? There are 4 very happy teams over that!!!!

BTW, what happened in this game?  I thought East Chambers looked to be rolling for a while there.  What was the key to NW's win?

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="976134" timestamp="1299130133"] I dont keep stats like steals, rebounds or blocks.  No time to keep all of that!!! [/quote]Oh, just admit it.  You can't count that high!!!!! Between Gus's steals, that center from Stafford's blocks last Friday, and Cleveland's rebounds, you'd go into circuit overload!!!! LaZeek would be LaCrashed!

[quote name="stevenash" post="976131" timestamp="1299129992"] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=81003.msg976099#msg976099 date=1299128388] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=81003.msg976076#msg976076 date=1299127685] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=81003.msg976071#msg976071 date=1299127389] HJ just doesnt have near them team they have had in the past.....it's ok I still pull for nederland [/quote]I don't know about you, but that's the way I've looked at HJ this year.  Very good team this year, but ranked 5th out of the last 5 teams. With that in mind, I can understand why other guys underestimated us.  Which makes it all the more fun to beat teams like Cleveland.  It wouldn't be half as fun if HJ went into the game 15 points favorites. [/quote]  Poppa- are you being one of those arrogant HJ fans with history related expectations? I always knew this group had a huge upside....yes i have seen them play bad early and midway....but I always knew they were capable...I was just poking fun at dogs a little bit quoting him from a while back... [/quote] [/quote]I was afraid they didn't have that guy that can carry them on his back, like they've had the past few years.  I mean, we all knew Prudhomme had it in him, but I don't think he knew it.  His last two games have joyfully proved me wrong!!!!!

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="976070" timestamp="1299127358"] SCORING--- Cleveland                 13-21-15-19----68 Hardin-Jefferson        15-22-22-17----76 Cleveland--(29-5) Reed       23 (16 in 2nd half) Walker    17 (Held to 3 in 2nd half and had 4 three's) Richardson     14 (4 three's) Montgomery    11 Ross        3 Hardin-Jefferson--(34-6) Prudhomme      33 (19 in 1st and 14 in 2nd) Sutherland        15 (3 three's) Bosha      8 Persohn     7 Harmon      5 Vallery     4 Gustafson      4 FT's--- Cleveland     4/10      40% HJ              15/22     68% Fouls--- Cleveland       18 HJ                 10 [/quote]Two comments: 1)  Cleveland hit most of their 3's in the 1st half, except for 2 or 3 late in the 4th to make it a game (I was getting a little worried when they were at the FT line only 4 points down, mind you.  They went ice cold in the pivotal 3rd quarter, like I thought they would.  Those legs just don't have that bounce. 2) How many rebounds did Cleveland have, or is Lazeek having trouble counting that high!!!!  C'mon, you two announcers ought to have enough fingers and toes to count that high!!!!  Heck, you got 6 fingers on each hand and 6 toes on each foot.  That totals up to......well....... well, it totals up to a lot!  ;)

[quote name="bullets13" post="976118" timestamp="1299129414"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=81003.msg976116#msg976116 date=1299129348] Reed, Richardson and Ross have been starting for 3 years.  Walker is a new starter this year, but was on team last year.  The Indians have really missed Ross' twin brother who tore his ACL in football and consequently missed the entire basketball season!!!  There starting 5 were very good, but the bench is non-existent!!!! [/quote] so they would've had four 3-year starters except for the injury.  i knew there were at least 4 of them. [/quote]There were 5 Super-Sophomores, if I recall correctly.  But one of the kids moved away, perhaps?

[quote name="Coonass322" post="976100" timestamp="1299128479"] Who are the rebels? [/quote]Uh, that would be the Evadale Rebels

[quote name="ST413" post="976090" timestamp="1299128153"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=81003.msg976084#msg976084 date=1299127977] [quote author=CATMAN link=topic=81003.msg976078#msg976078 date=1299127852] [quote author=86hawk link=topic=81003.msg975391#msg975391 date=1299095644] Cleveland is the better team and they have better athletes.  The problem is HJ has a better coach, HJ is a more disciplined team, and HJ is a smarter team.  I don't mean smart in the IQ sense, i mean smart in the basketball sense.  The last two years, Cleveland was winning the game and when it came down to the end, they made stupid mistakes.  When HJ was able to score and apply pressure, Cleveland folded up.  They failed to play smart ball and threw up on themselves. HJ by 5. [/quote] The Cleveland Coach Has Got To Go.The Fan In Cleveland Told Me They Wish The School Board Would Fire Him. We Will See. [/quote]Why is that?  I listened over the radio.  Did the coach do a poor job or are the fans looking for a scapegoat. [/quote] Tired of 3 years of repeating history! [/quote]IOW, they are looking for a scapegoat!  ;D

[quote name="CATMAN" post="976078" timestamp="1299127852"] [quote author=86hawk link=topic=81003.msg975391#msg975391 date=1299095644] Cleveland is the better team and they have better athletes.  The problem is HJ has a better coach, HJ is a more disciplined team, and HJ is a smarter team.  I don't mean smart in the IQ sense, i mean smart in the basketball sense.  The last two years, Cleveland was winning the game and when it came down to the end, they made stupid mistakes.  When HJ was able to score and apply pressure, Cleveland folded up.  They failed to play smart ball and threw up on themselves. HJ by 5. [/quote] The Cleveland Coach Has Got To Go.The Fan In Cleveland Told Me They Wish The School Board Would Fire Him. We Will See. [/quote]Why is that?  I listened over the radio.  Did the coach do a poor job or are the fans looking for a scapegoat.

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="976064" timestamp="1299127021"] Congratulations to the East Chambers Bucs. A great year for EC sports. District Champion in [u][u]football[/u][/u], and District Champion in [u]basketball[/u]. Advanced to 3rd round of playoffs in each sport.   ;D [/quote]Incredible accomplishments!!! Way to go, Bucs!

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="976071" timestamp="1299127389"] HJ just doesnt have near them team they have had in the past.....it's ok I still pull for nederland [/quote]I don't know about you, but that's the way I've looked at HJ this year.  Very good team this year, but ranked 5th out of the last 5 teams. With that in mind, I can understand why other guys underestimated us.  Which makes it all the more fun to beat teams like Cleveland.  It wouldn't be half as fun if HJ went into the game 15 points favorites.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="976029" timestamp="1299125698"] Congrats to Nederland, Evadale and Hardin-Jefferson for being the only 3 SE Texas schools remaining in the State Playoffs.............Good luck to all three teams on Friday night!!! BTW, 5 trips to the Regional Tourney for HJ in 5 years!!!!   Previous 4 all resulted in Regional Final appearances also!!! ;) ;) [/quote]... and 2 out of the 4 resulted in state appearances, with one trophy!  8) 8)

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="976048" timestamp="1299126417"] Congrats EC, Coach Andrews and Coach Fontenot on a great season!!!! [/quote]What about Hoffpauir? 

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="976045" timestamp="1299126361"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=81018.msg975999#msg975999 date=1299123677] [quote author=GoGetta56 link=topic=81018.msg975990#msg975990 date=1299123334] if i had to go with as of lately shawn prudhomme wld probably be number one or 2 just my opinion [/quote]I'm not sure.  I think K Smith and [b]DC Lane[/b] (in no particular order) are still the top two.  Sean will get his chance to shine!!! Besides, I'd think he'd rather have a State Tournament MVP trophy then a SETX top trophy?  ;) Of course, its implied that the state trophy would accompany a state MVP trophy! [/quote] Who is DC Lane???  I have heard of DC Stallworth and Prentice Lane!!! ;D ;D [/quote]Rats!!!!!!  You know who I mean.  DC Stallworth.  Good call, though.  I'm glad someone's reading this.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="972976" timestamp="1298701809"] [quote author=Indian54 link=topic=80934.msg972972#msg972972 date=1298701674] It don't matter what day this game takes place Cleveland is too much for the hawks this year [/quote]....um..... you do realize this is the third anniversary of "[i]Cleveland is too much for the hawks this year[/i]".  Its comments like these that come back to haunt you.  If you don't believe me, just ask Navasota.  We heard that tune 4 years in a row, but it was always a little bit off-key!  ;) [/quote]Same song, 3rd verse.   May be better but it won't be worse!!!!  ;) Talk to you again next year, Indian54

[quote name="GoGetta56" post="975990" timestamp="1299123334"] if i had to go with as of lately shawn prudhomme wld probably be number one or 2 just my opinion [/quote]I'm not sure.  I think K Smith and DC Lane (in no particular order) are still the top two.  Sean will get his chance to shine!!! Besides, I'd think he'd rather have a State Tournament MVP trophy then a SETX top trophy?  ;) Of course, its implied that the state trophy would accompany a state MVP trophy!

Those Hawks are simply amazing.  Year in and year out they continue to make me proud. Composure?  check Discipline?  check Stamina?  check Talent?  check, check Great coaching?  Well, you won't have the first 3 if you don't have good coaches..... check.

Sean Prudhomme made two statements this week with 29 points (including 4 monster dunks and maybe 14 rebounds) Friday night against Stafford and then 33 points tonight against those Indians!!!!! Dude is incredible..... and only a junior!

Ok, Hawk fans.... what did you guys think when it was 7-0 a minute into the game?!?!?