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[quote name="dogs1218" post="974175" timestamp="1298924006"] Quote from sleepy "Dogs, if you can't admit that HJ is one of the top teams in the area you are dreaming buddy.  Sorry. Also, am very interested to hear how many times you have seen cleveland play this year since you are predicting they are too much for HJ.  Can I guess that you have not seen them a single time and you are basing this on box scores??" Why dont you stop being so concerned about what is said about HJ on here? You should be doing more important things like getting ready for Wednesday ;) Want me to shut up about HJ? Make it happen Wednesday night buddy and I promise to stop :D [/quote]I've got to agree with you on this one, dogs, even if I disagree with your opinion. This is an "opinion forum" and sometimes we take ours and other people's opinions too seriously.  dogs1218 predicts that Cleveland will beat HJ and ain't nothing we say will change his mind...... except for what is said on the court and on the scoreboard!!!! Now, with that being said, I hope you are dead wrong, dude!!!  And I hope that we can discuss this in person in Austin in a couple of weeks as we watch our Dogs and our Hawks play!  ;)

[quote name="jettyman" post="974047" timestamp="1298910463"] X rays confirmed, Persohn does have a broken bone in his hand.  [/quote]What type of brace does he have?  Is it going to affect his play much. I say that because Joe can really drive from the free throw line to his left and shoot a lay up with his left hand really well for a big man.  On the other hand, if it means Joe won't dribble while he's in traffic in the lane, that may be a good thing.  (If I were a coach, I'd make every post run laps whenever they try in dribble through traffic!)

[quote name="HAWKS24" post="974055" timestamp="1298910926"] He'll be good to go for wednesday night [/quote]I certainly hope so. Didn't Joe hit two free throws in the 4th quarter after getting his hand taped up and his eye-gash closed up?

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="974076" timestamp="1298912670"] I think they can but with almost every state run [b][u]there is some luck involved[/u][/b]....I hope they are lucky, I already know that they are good. [/quote]Exactly.  For the sake of argument (and the prevailing opinion on this forum), let's say that HJ can't beat Silsbee, because they are simply outmatched.  Accepting that, then HJ just caught a very lucky break with Silsbee losing to Sealy.  Of course, this assumes that HJ gets by that beast from up Hwy 105.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="974062" timestamp="1298911243"] So let me get this straight.........HJ player receives a broken hand on a play and no foul called and then receives a cut above his left eye from an elbow and forearm on a rebound and yet again no foul called!!!!  I guess this gives new meaning to letting them play!!!! [/quote]No, HJ player get broken hand on a play where he commits an offensive fouls. Then HJ player got a cut above his left eye from an elbow/forearm on a backdoor pass and lay up to end the 3rd period.  Admittedly, I couldn't tell that the Stafford player clipped Joe as he went for the head fake.

[quote name="tigersvoice" post="974018" timestamp="1298907831"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=80948.msg974009#msg974009 date=1298906755] [quote author=FlexD33 link=topic=80948.msg974002#msg974002 date=1298906415] LAZEEK maybe I should get a shout out over the broadcast since ill be in the gym for this one  ;) [/quote] I am a big believer in karma and [b][u]fait[/u][/b].........please stay out of the gym if you have not been to a playoff game so far!!! ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Get him on the spelling, Nash.  He's one of yours. ::) ;D ;D [/quote]Release the Hounds!!!!!!!  :D

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="973976" timestamp="1298904524"] What would need to be censored?   :D :D :D [/quote]I mean, I don't want to have to explain to my son how someone could do something to themselves that is anatomically impossible......... ::)

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="973959" timestamp="1298903397"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=81002.msg973947#msg973947 date=1298902517] I think you should extend a personal invitation to Da Dove to broadcast the game with you on Wednesday night.  Since he is one of HJs most ardent supporters/followers, it would seem only right that his enthusiasm for HJ should be expressed on the airwaves. [/quote] I would support this as long as his enthusiasm doesn't include screaming after every made Hawk basket in the fourth quarter at a volume where it is impossible to understand the broadcast. [/quote]I'm not sure if it would be Dove's enthusiasm FOR HJ coming through on the mike, or his enthusiasm AGAINST HJ.  Maybe you guys should have that 8 second delay going on to censor things out.  ;)

[quote name="First Down" post="973967" timestamp="1298903785"] [quote author=no-look link=topic=80948.msg973928#msg973928 date=1298899231] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=80948.msg973896#msg973896 date=1298870899] Don't sleep on Mexia. ;) [/quote]AAW, have you seen Mexia play? Does Hudson have a chance at them? This has been a crazy year for my picking games. [/quote] I have seen Mexia play and they are a very good basketball team. Hudson has a shot, if they can get a 6 or 8 pt lead and stall the whole game. ;D Mexia will run Hudson out of the Gym. [/quote]I remember Hudson having a guard that was quick as lightning.  Do they have anyone to support him, or are they a one-trick pony?

[quote name="True Blue" post="973966" timestamp="1298903770"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=81001.msg973953#msg973953 date=1298902932] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=81001.msg973950#msg973950 date=1298902615] If the same team showes up ,that played the second half of Fridaynights game showes up, I see them making a deep run in the playoffs. They are not a jumpshooting team, they have to get the ball inside to the three big guys, and they have to finish their shots. In Fridays game the three inside players schore 39 points in the paint. The team was 3 for 5 from the 3 point line. But still need to make those free throws late in the game ;) But as long as they keep playing this way, the only team that can stop them is themselfs. [/quote]OK True, granted, you have seen a whole lot more Evadale games than I have, but I thought Evadale has a good thing going when they work it into one of the big men and as the defense collapses on him, he kicks it out for a wide open 3.  Has that not been working of late? [/quote] Well the last 2 games the three ball has not been falling. We went 0 for 10 agains Leggett,and we only shot 5 Friday. Yorktown was a small guard team that was real fast so we did not get many open looks from out side, But they had no answer for the size inside. #21 scored 28 points and they tried 3 different players to try and stop him, and 2 of those fouled out and the third had 4 fouls at the end of the game. # 3 made 2 threes but the most of his 19 points came from him flashing to the goal when they tryed doubling 21. But I am waiting for both players to get hot on the same night, that is going to be something to see ;) :) [/quote]OK, well that is the point I was trying to lead to.  You've got a potential to hit some outside shots.  You've got a good inside game.  Now, you've got a two-pronged attack: a) against a tall team, you can hit the three's or b) against a smaller team, you jam it inside. Now, in the best scenario a) and b) are both working, but until then, you go with the best of the two options.  HJ's outside game was really slumping early in district, but the last 5 or 6 games has shown a marked improvement in our outside shooting.... and it shows on the scoreboard. Perhaps Evadale will see that same swing and take it all the way to Austin!!!!  Good luck to those guys!!! 

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="973931" timestamp="1298899970"] HJ and Cleveland at Baytown Lee College on Wednesday night!!!!  Confirmed!!! [/quote]Wow!  I guess HJ won the toss.... But why not East Chambers?

[quote name="True Blue" post="973950" timestamp="1298902615"] If the same team showes up ,that played the second half of Fridaynights game showes up, I see them making a deep run in the playoffs. They are not a jumpshooting team, they have to get the ball inside to the three big guys, and they have to finish their shots. In Fridays game the three inside players schore 39 points in the paint. The team was 3 for 5 from the 3 point line. But still need to make those free throws late in the game ;) But as long as they keep playing this way, the only team that can stop them is themselfs. [/quote]OK True, granted, you have seen a whole lot more Evadale games than I have, but I thought Evadale has a good thing going when they work it into one of the big men and as the defense collapses on him, he kicks it out for a wide open 3.  Has that not been working of late?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="973896" timestamp="1298870899"] Don't sleep on Mexia. ;) [/quote]Don't sleep on HJ!  ;)

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="973853" timestamp="1298864918"] Finger is not broken......at least that is what I was told by his dad yesterday!!!! [/quote]I broke my finger once.  You see, it happened when somebody punched me in the nose! (Ba-da-boom, ching!)  ;)

[list][quote name="True Blue" post="973182" timestamp="1298747008"] This was the first game all year that the Rebs have came from behind to win a big game. Yorktown came out a shot the 3 at will. The second half the Rebs went to a man def. and their size was the difference. # 5 for Yorktown had 19 points in the first half, but the man def. held him to only 3 free throws in the second half. scoring for the rebs were[list] [*] Dunigan 28 [*] Murphy 19 [/list][list] [*] Trucker 6 [/list] [list] [*] Stark 8 [*] Totten 4 [/list][/list] [/quote]That is great for those kids.  I've seen other teams simply wear them out this year, so this is a pleasant surprise and what that is very timely. BTW, when HJ won state 5 years ago, they had to come from behind in every game..... by an average of 14 points!!!!!  You talk about character building. Good luck to Evadale!!!!!

[quote name="Scooter!" post="973161" timestamp="1298744580"] [quote author=bulldog81 link=topic=80935.msg973046#msg973046 date=1298731401] [quote author=baddog link=topic=80935.msg973007#msg973007 date=1298721123] What were the circumstances of Huntsville's last possession....the turnover with 8 seconds left? Was it a steal or did they throw it away, travel, double dribble......? [/quote] Although Nederland had a man on him, the kid just lost the ball going across midcourt and the ball went out of bounds. [/quote]hard way to go out for that kid [/quote]You never forget that.  I was setting up the last play on a tie game with 10 seconds to go in a tournament championship game about 52 years ago ( ;)), and fell asleep on my defender who stole the ball right out from under me and took it in for a layup to win the game. As you can tell, its sort of hard to forget.

[quote name="hj1" post="973047" timestamp="1298731434"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=80783.msg973032#msg973032 date=1298728710] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=80783.msg973027#msg973027 date=1298728163] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=80783.msg972950#msg972950 date=1298700323] To those of ya'll who remember the Nederland - PNG game where Nederland played for the final shot (holding the ball for the last 2:40 seconds), did this game seem familiar?  And IMO, [s]Sealy[/s], er, Stafford played it right.  They contested every pass and there were several times where HJ almost lost the ball or dribbled into trouble.  And, in the end, it succeeded for them, for they got a strong chance to hit the winning bucket.  My only suggestion is that they should have fouled with about 5-6 seconds to go because they only had 5 team fouls at that point. BTW, was Gus fouled on the final drive to the basket?  I don't know.  There was contact but who initiated it?  i think the referees didn't want to determine who the winner was so they let the play go.  it was, IMO, a 50-50 call. [/quote] Yes, Gus was fouled and I am not sure who initiated the contact either but believe it doesnt matter because the defender did NOT have position as Gus was approaching the basket. [/quote]You could say the same thing about Persohn's offensive foul where he broke his finger.  #11 was in the air (aka "did NOT have position") and Persohn jumped into him to initiate the contact. I think during any other game we would have seen a defensive foul, but the referees didn't call that all night long.  Prudhomme was tripped, Bosha was tripped, and Gus went down earlier on a similar play and they were never called.  Note: the trippings were not intentional, just due to typical contact when driving the lane. So, the referees weren't anything, if not consistent, in not calling that play. [/quote] Both of Joe's offensive fouls were legit calls. He lead with his shoulder and created the contact himself on both calls. [/quote]Which was my point.  Joe initiated the contact and the ref's called a foul.  Now, the question is, on that last play in regulation, did Gus initiate the contact or Stafford?  My thoughts are that the ref's weren't 100% sure and didn't want to determine the outcome of the game which is why they let them play on.

[quote name="stevenash" post="973027" timestamp="1298728163"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=80783.msg972950#msg972950 date=1298700323] To those of ya'll who remember the Nederland - PNG game where Nederland played for the final shot (holding the ball for the last 2:40 seconds), did this game seem familiar?  And IMO, [s]Sealy[/s], er, Stafford played it right.  They contested every pass and there were several times where HJ almost lost the ball or dribbled into trouble.  And, in the end, it succeeded for them, for they got a strong chance to hit the winning bucket.  My only suggestion is that they should have fouled with about 5-6 seconds to go because they only had 5 team fouls at that point. BTW, was Gus fouled on the final drive to the basket?  I don't know.  There was contact but who initiated it?  i think the referees didn't want to determine who the winner was so they let the play go.  it was, IMO, a 50-50 call. [/quote] Yes, Gus was fouled and I am not sure who initiated the contact either but believe it doesnt matter because the defender did NOT have position as Gus was approaching the basket. [/quote]You could say the same thing about Persohn's offensive foul where he broke his finger.  #11 was in the air (aka "did NOT have position") and Persohn jumped into him to initiate the contact. I think during any other game we would have seen a defensive foul, but the referees didn't call that all night long.  Prudhomme was tripped, Bosha was tripped, and Gus went down earlier on a similar play and they were never called.  Note: the trippings were not intentional, just due to typical contact when driving the lane. So, the referees weren't anything, if not consistent, in not calling that play.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="972989" timestamp="1298703545"] I have an old saying that I stole from some old wise man............"Win with class and lose with class"!!!!  We will need all the support we can get!!!! [/quote]I prefer what Vince Lombardi said, "[i]Just win, Baby[/i]"!  (at least I think it was Lombardi that said that). But if I had to, I'd borrow a little from your phrase and say, "[i]Win with class and let the other team worry about losing with class[/i]"!  ;)

[quote name="Indian54" post="972972" timestamp="1298701674"] It don't matter what day this game takes place Cleveland is too much for the hawks this year [/quote] [quote author=Indian54 link=topic=80934.msg972978#msg972978 date=1298702030] It don't matter what day it happens the Indians are too much for te hawks this year [/quote]I get it. [i]Sounds so nice you gotta say it twice![/i]  ;) In any event, good luck to both teams!  Let's just have a great game and may the best team win!!!

[quote name="Indian54" post="972972" timestamp="1298701674"] It don't matter what day this game takes place Cleveland is too much for the hawks this year [/quote]....um..... you do realize this is the third anniversary of "[i]Cleveland is too much for the hawks this year[/i]".  Its comments like these that come back to haunt you.  If you don't believe me, just ask Navasota.  We heard that tune 4 years in a row, but it was always a little bit off-key!  ;)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="972971" timestamp="1298701585"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=80936.msg972937#msg972937 date=1298699933] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=80936.msg972919#msg972919 date=1298698953] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=80936.msg972908#msg972908 date=1298698612] Must be the weak side of the bracket ;D [/quote] Why do U say that? Ozen is a good 2nd pl team who beat a District Champ. Ozen is no joke. They beat Silsbee this year, and played Nederland tough one game. [/quote]Give Dove a break.  He's not familiar with the play-off system so he wouldn't know a strong bracket from a weak bracket.  ;) [/quote]oH OKAY rub it in :P [/quote]Couldn't resist, my brother!  BTW, what game did you go see tonight?  It looked like there were several incredible games available.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="972960" timestamp="1298700896"] Game will be Wednesday night or maybe even Thursday because of the TAKS testing!!!!  No UIL activities are allowed Monday and Tuesday!!!! [/quote]Thursday?  Doesn't Regionals start Friday?  And why not Tuesday night?  I thought TAKS tests were Monday and Tuesday day.

Just a thought: Jan. 25 - @ Orangefield* (W, 76-36) Jan. 28 - Bridge City* (W, 90-22) Feb. 1 - @ Hardin-Jefferson* (W, 64-51) Feb. 4 - @ West Orange-Stark* (W, 73-46) Feb. 8 - Hamshire-Fannett* (W, 86-48) Feb. 11 - Orangefield* (W, 69-42) Feb. 15 - @ Bridge City* (W, 84-40) Feb. 19 - @ Kountze (W, 95-63) Feb. 24-25 - Sealy (P) Silsbee was in only 1 dog fight in the last month.  Did this hurt them?  And if so, what can you do to about it?  I don't know if you can. On a side note, good luck Travis!  Relax over the summer and get well.  Looking forward to seeing you on the sidelines next year when we play Silsbee. :)

All I know is, Tuesday night, let's get it on!!!! I think its going to be a great game.  And, of course, it don't matter what's happened in the last two years.  The score will still be 0-0 during the opening tip-off.  The only score that matters is the final of this game, not the previous ones. Let's just have a great game and may the best team win.  8)