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[quote name="bullets13" post="957490" timestamp="1296357035"] i'll agree with that.  when HF was setting up in the half court, and setting up in the half court D, they went about 10 minutes between the 1st and 2nd quarters where the only shot they got off at all was little dove's 3/4 length shot at the end of the 1st.  they were also getting trapped like crazy because they weren't looking to run off of rebounds. [/quote]I thought they started pressing when they were up 5-2 midway through the 1st.  I could be wrong, though.

[quote name="bullets13" post="957467" timestamp="1296353150"] i think EVERYONE for the hawks started out 0-5 from the floor :) [/quote]Yeah, you're probably right.  Of course then we went on a 35 - 4 run and reality kicked back in. I'm still wondering why they went into the press.

The Hawks are ready to soar!!!! 8 point win!!!

[quote name="True Blue" post="957437" timestamp="1296350511"] I would say that a 35 free throws for one team and 3 for the other would be a deciding factor in a 4 point game [/quote]I would say that fouling enough to put the other team at the FT line for 35 tries is the deciding factor of the game. Sometimes referees call fouls because the kids are fouling.  ;)

BTW, why did HF start pressing?!?  It seemed like they were better off in a half-court defense.  They only hurt themselves when they pressed.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="957428" timestamp="1296348631"] Gus had his way. I THINK most will agree. [/quote]He is fearless when he dribbles.  I don't think he is afraid to drive straight into a double-team, and rarely have I seen it cost us. It is SO GOOD to see him get his 3 point shot back!!!

[quote name="True Blue" post="957259" timestamp="1296321709"] OK I new you had a point there some were ;D [/quote]Bosha was about 0-5 from the floor at first. He had no problem driving to the hole, but the bigs made him change his shot.  After a brief rest on the bench, Bosha came back in and calmed down.  The same pressure was there most of the night, but he handled it better.

[quote name="Wildcatter" post="957179" timestamp="1296312704"] No, you have to use one or the other.  I was asked to join again this year as I have called basketball for years.  I get on my kids every week about calling the game right, not using an interperative rule book.  A travel is a travel, a foul is a foul, your job is to call it.  That's the only way that kids learn.  These guys go through a few clinics, pay their dues and then get a whistle.  A coach only has a limited number of scratches per year and then you are stuck with what is left.  It is a disgrace at what is left this year. [/quote]I have a friend who is a TASO referee and he was amazed at how little training they had.  And little or no follow-up.

[quote name="whsalum" post="957164" timestamp="1296311677"] These two groups need to set down and hash out their differences ,elect a qualified board and put all this mess behind them.One thing is evident and that is this split is hurting both chapters but more importantly is hurting the game.Come on guys there are far too many good officials around here to put folks on the floor who aren't ready to call varsity games. [/quote]I understand there are huge problems between the two org's, but can't any of the teams choose a referee team from either org?

[quote name="hitchpin" post="957108" timestamp="1296282232"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=79473.msg957092#msg957092 date=1296280384] [quote author=hitchpin link=topic=79473.msg957087#msg957087 date=1296280059] [quote author=Wildcatter link=topic=79473.msg957082#msg957082 date=1296279432] regular striped white and black [/quote]UIL thanks, well who is in the light grey with black stripes? [/quote] [/quote] blank reply Fan, does that mean white = light grey? [/quote]OOps!!!  I Put it within the quote. Light grey equals UIL.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="957126" timestamp="1296284353"] Shlykbmt is correct.  The PN-G coach called a great play.  You have to do fundimentals like boxing out.  Had PN-G secured that reboud, you go into overtime with the pressure on the Bulldogs because their thinking 'we shouldn't be in OT with a team that will not make the playoffs'.  Plus, PN-G had the home court and fan support on their side. You force the action, you foul them and send a good free throw shooter to the line and your still down or you make Nederland score and then the pressure is on you to answer that score in limited time.  Good decsion, Coach Abel (sp). [/quote]Let's see. Option a: - Nederland scores bucket (50% chance) Option b: - Nederland misses and goes to overtime (50% chance)     Option 1b: In overtime Nederland wins (25% chance)     Option 2b: In overtime PNG wins (25% chance). It looks like, [u][b]with PNG giving Nederland the rest of the clock and allowing them to take the last shot, that they've got only a 25% chance of winning[/b][/u]. And ya'll call that good coaching?!?!? C'mon, Man!

[quote name="hitchpin" post="957087" timestamp="1296280059"] [quote author=Wildcatter link=topic=79473.msg957082#msg957082 date=1296279432] regular striped white and black [/quote]UIL thanks, well who is in the light grey with black stripes? [/quote]

[quote name="mammagotjuice" post="957079" timestamp="1296279195"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=79399.msg957061#msg957061 date=1296278471] I forgot to say more talented also............sorry hfmom08!!!!! ;) ;) ;D ;D [/quote]It was a great spirited game...high energy in the building. HJ did a great job and was the better team tonight as the score reflected...despite all of HF's multi-faceted problems. Balls in the basket and solid defense wins games. So I am gonna end this night on the high road...but please know my lip is bleeding cause I am biting it so dang hard. Great seeing all you guys tonight! Prudomme and Bosha did an awesome job tonight. [/quote]You know, I gotta admit, I'm beginning to wonder if you guys are right.  There was a lot of talent on the floor tonight and it wasn't all HJ players.  I mentioned it above, but I think the thing that beat ya'll was: a) fundamentals and b) discipline These are things that are taught..........

BTW, Lazeek,  what were the numbers for the Hawks. It looked like Prudhomme, Bosha, and Gus each scored 20 points. 

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="957053" timestamp="1296278217"] It was my pleasure meeting several of the HF faithful tonight.........Mammagotjuice, hfmom, mercedes and Bluedove!!!!  I know for a fact that Little Dove is gonna be a special player.  Hoping that his parents find some property in the HJ area soon!!!! ;D ;D ;D Hawks just too deep and more seasoned than the Horns.  Great win for the Hawks after they started off the first 6 minutes of the game with 2 points!!!! :o :o :o [/quote]Two words: 1) Fundamentals 2) Discipline

And BTW, Dove, your kids got game.  just tell him to quit dribbling into the corner.

... and what did ya'll think of that play HJ ran to start the 3rd.  Sean almost threw down that dunk, if he hadn't have been fouled!!!!

For some reason, that was the most intense 30 point blow-out I've ever watched.  It felt like it was a 5-8 point lead the whole time.

"Boy, aren't those shirts great?" - [i]He said, sincerely wishing that we could get back on topic instead of dragging everybody who is following this thread through the life of BadSanta[/i]

[quote name="Bobcat05" post="955837" timestamp="1296154742"] I remember, I think it was my junior year, when Kountze was still in 3A and in our district, they won state that year I think, anyway we (Orangefield) stalled the ball and lost 37-50, the Kountze fans were not happy.  ;D [/quote]Orangefield did that in the 80-81 season to everybody.  They still stunk, but they only lost by 10-15 instead of by 40+ Yet another reason why I always hated Orangefield!!!!!

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="955492" timestamp="1296099241"] BS was on the bench, but never played and was always in street clothes with towels and water bottles in his hands and maybe a stat sheet!!!!!! ;) ;) [/quote]Let me see if I got this right.  Lazeek, who never played basketball, is picking on BadSanta for being a manager/trainer?  ::) What's up with dat?

[quote name="sleepy" post="955780" timestamp="1296148931"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=79322.msg955695#msg955695 date=1296141030] Thought about making some for the HJ/HF game but figured that there would not be much demand!!!! ;D ;D [/quote] I guess you could use the word havoc in a shirt for that game too!!! [/quote] You mean like, Bart Simpson saying, "[b][i]Don't [u]HAVOC [/u]Cow, Man, Beat them Longhorns![/i][/b]". Yeah, that could work!

How much is PoppaBearStarr getting in royalties? Or did he pull "A Kramer" and negotiate for free Frito Pie for a year?

[quote name="dogs1218" post="955582" timestamp="1296110349"] Come on now ZEEK!  :D The Dogs play! Cant be watching any of that basketball while my team is playing! [/quote]I can understand that.  Then, I guess at the regional finals, you won't have any excuse to miss the third round........  ;)

[quote name="dogs1218" post="955553" timestamp="1296104258"] .... But to answer your question, HJ will not beat Silsbee next week (unless by some missing players from Silsbee and/or homecooking  ;) ), and if they meet again (but I have already stated that I dont think so) SIlsbee will be 3-0 against HJ.. Clear enough? [/quote]Now, isn't this exactly what you hate about HJ fans?