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someone who makes him believe that he "cares" about the "little guy" ( doesn't matter whether or not he really does care, just as long as he articulates it well)

Ya gotta get over this idea that profits are evil. Same thing happened a few years ago when gasoline was high. The oil companies were severely castigated for "obscene an unfair " profits. When you have time, look up the return on equity of Apple computer, Drug Giant Merck, and Exxon. Let me know where the "evilness" is.

Based on your comment ( emboldened above) are you saying that the Democrats via the AHCA are in bed with the medical industry since no Republicans voted for that bill?

And your example of respect for the President falls in line with what you are demanding?

28 minutes ago, six burg said: Anybody thats hits the wrong key this board is an idiot? Thats why people can't have a decent debate on this board. people like you and tobie. tobie says things you don't agrre with , so he is an idiot for misspelling a word. I guess the third graders in my wifes classroom are idiots when they don't make a hundred on their spelling test.- The response to Tobie was a veiled reference to Big Girl calling people "idoits"- Somewhat comical to watch someone tell somebody else they are an idiot but can't even spell the word correctly. You may not have been on this board when that took place but everyone who is on here at all knew precisely what I was referring to. But, even if I had intended to call him an idiot, I am somewhat surprised that you are offended by that but have no problem at all with Tobie calling the President every demeaning name in the book in just about every post he makes.

We should also not be involved in such "investments" as Solyndra. Check out how much that cost this country. Check out how and why the U.S. Postal service is bankrupt and cannot meet its future obligations while FedEx and UPS are profitable corporations. The government is not a good steward of our money and we should not be giving it more control via more taxes, more regulations, and more employees.

To me it doesn't matter who wastes the most money. The problem is wasting it. And I totally agree that it gets wasted by both parties. However, let me give you a small hint/clue about that. It does NOT take a brain surgeon to realize that growing the size and power of the "waster" will only make it WORSE. AS for your pie chart, the word "waste" is a relative term and defining it would be very critical before charting it. Sixburg, exactly "who" is going to decide how much is an appropriate amount when the working poor should get a government handout? Who is going to decide how frequent that should be and who is going to decide where the cutoff point is? Here is another clue for you - saying " I feel your pain" or saying " change you can believe in" means ABSOLUTELY zero, zilch, nada as a qualification for addressing those issues. There is a point where fiscal responsibility and social justice but heads.

I am thinking that peaceful protest is just fine. But I am also thinking that if you are at work and want to take a knee when you are dealing with a customer/patient, your employer may have something to say about it.

Forget where he heard it. Is he correct or incorrect?

Two things from my perspective: If you HONESTLY believe what you are saying, you should be promoting smaller and less intrusive government. Having a lot of difficulty believing that is what a certain party this country wants. And it is quite easy to work hard and not have plenty of money in the bank. You can have a job that doesnt pay very much and still work hard at it. You can earn a decent living and spend more than you make and take on more debt than you can afford for that new car, new house, etc etc etc that you had no business buying at a particular time in your life. When you are earning beer wages you shouldnt be buying champagne and caviar( that is not literal but, of course, figurative). There are plenty of people in this country who believe that their lack of financial success in life is attributable to someone else when, most of the time, that is absolutely untrue. For those of you who persist in the belief that government can, somehow, make things more "fair", you are simply advocating having more government which appears to be what you believe is the problem. A considerable amount of what troubles you can be solved with introspection and a resolve to achieve more and manage what you do have more wisely. Somewhere on this board, there is a video by Dr. Rick Rigsby which seemed to impress everyone. He spoke so highly of his 3rd grade dropout father who worked as hard or harder than anyone he know. HIs father had no material wealth but passed on to his son another type of wealth which served him much better than a government handout.

His is too- he just can't admit it

The markets are merely the reflection of the overall attitude of investors toward what the future holds in business. When Trump got in, the markets celebrated the fact that the regulatory burdens were likely to be reduced and that taxation was likely to be reduced. It also anticipated that the federal government ( the worst business manager in history) was not going to continue on its prior path of getting more involved in the day to day business activities of American corporations. As for the markets going down as quickly as it goes up, usually some catastrophic event will make it drop faster than it rose but that has always been temporary. If you look at the chart of the stock market since its inception, it has one basic direction with periodic interruptions/downfalls along the way.

Dont forget that Bowe Bergdahl, according to the Obama administration with honor and distinction and was traded for five enemy combatants. Now he has pleaded guilty to desertion. Do you consider that honor and distinction Tobie?

Nice- find a time frame that fits your narrative and then post it. Market is up over 15% since Trump was elected. Go back to google and see how that compares from Nov 6 to the present vs other presidents. But in using the article that YOU posted, please notice that the return during Trumps first 100 days is 3.5 times that of your hero, Bill Clinton, the one who "feels your pain" and "did not have sex with that woman". ( Oops, forgot that saying "grab em" is far more serious than getting "pleasured" by someone other than your wife in the Whitehouse.

only an "idoit" would misspell "stupod"

So you are worried- I understand that. Now tell me what Trump HAS DONE that has harmed you. That was the question I asked in the first place. And sorry, but grab em won't work here. I never realized that complaining about someone not standing during the National Anthem was, somehow, a way to take away freedom of speech. You must have REALLY BEEN MAD when the bakers were told they MUST bake a cake for a gay couple, right?

Very interesting. You said it went straight up under Obama and these first ten months since Trump was elected, market has done even better. Are you misrepresenting things Tobie for political purposes? Naaa, you have too much integrity for that, right?

Tobie, if Mr. Obama was still in office would there be no suffering in Puerto Rico at this time? Of course you do and that is what is said about being a minion.

What do you mean you don't care? I thought you were from the party of mutual respect for everyone? Exactly what is it that Trump has done to you?

21 people were killed. Just an average weekend for Chicago.

And we will get a periodic "grab em" whether there is any news or not.

For common sense individuals it certainly is.

This can't be. I thought all of the Russia problems were tied to Trump?

Tobie and Big Girl admire him

Gotta hand it to you, Tobie for your consistency. Mr. Trump is disrespecting America, and , at the same time, Colin Kaepernick is some sort of hero. Few are as objective as you are.