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Obviously not a lock but perhaps the outcome is not as cut and dried as you believe.

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My error. I should have stated more clearly that I was referring to you or me starting a business ( perhaps a sub chapter S )on a local basis. But since you brought it up, over 2/3 of Apples gigantic cash hoard sits overseas. Rather than bring it home and have it taxed, they elected to borrow money through a bond offering stateside. Maybe Apple is not as much a "democrat" as you think it is. After all, if they had the level of "social conscience" that the Dems would have us believe they all have, they would bring that money back and smile as they gave a goodly portion of it to our benevolent/efficient Federal government.

And how is it that you know I dont? Does the question you posed to me apply to you?

The assumption is that all conditions are equal except tax rates and regulation. To stay in business, you need to be profitable ( unless you are the Federal Government) Do you think that as you earn more, knowing you are about to move into a higher marginal bracket, is an incentive or disincentive to produce more? I dont believe I stated that being a Republican would make me more successful than you. Thank you for confirming that Mr. Gates is not the richest man in American because he is a Democrat.

I fully understand that you are not crediting me with making the libtard and moron insults. Once again, I suggest to you that party affiliation has little to nothing to do with the work ethic, ingenuity, and business success of anyone. I listen to Warren Buffet frequently and will tell you that while he may favor "making sure his tax rate is higher than that of his secretary", ( and the basic reason it is lower is because the bulk of his personal wealth comes via capital gains and the attendant lower rate) he will also tell you how ineffective the government is in running businesses. I cant prove this, but I suspect that he is a moral liberal and fiscal conservative but chooses to wear the Democrat label. I want to ask you a question and respectfully ask that you answer it as honestly as possible. If a close friend of yours was about to open up a business and he had whittled down his location to two states, would you advise him to begin in the state with higher taxes and more regulation or the one with lower taxes and less regulation? If you and I both open businesses locally, how does being a democrat insure that you will be more successful than me?

Not a problem. Especially when the counter point it produced has little bearing on the issue.

Which question is the original one? Nobody in this country wealthier than Gates. And he has mostly the stock market ( something that doesnt have government influence) for that. Are you telling me that, since the wealthiest man in America is a democrat, that the Democrat approach to running the business of this country is superior?

Its a bit of a stretch to suggest/imply that their business acumen is somehow related to their political affiliation. If you wish to play tit for tat on that theory, I am going to win. I have known for many years of their poltical affiliations yet it did not stop me from making that post and I anticipated your response.

Please very very assured that I can post an article in response to every one that you can find. And Mr. Maher simply cherry picked some dates that made his point. Its no different than Mr. Obama claiming credit for all the jobs and paltry economic growth since he took over at the bottom of the recession. The 'unenlightened" will not know ( or acknowledge) that there has NEVER been a recession or economic slowdown from which we didnt recover, regardless of who was in office. Therefore, much of the "spike the football celebration" is due to the cyclicality of the economy as opposed to who is in charge. As for the "economic study", I will tell you I do not have the same faith that you have in the "academic elite" I guess what I am telling you is that I am very confident Steve Jobs or BIll Gates would be a far safer bet to successfully run a business than Jeremy Siegel would.. This can be further illustrated by the dismal failure of Long Term Capital Management that had several Nobel Laureates operating it. If other Wall Street Banks had not rescued it, it would have caused a crisis of huge proportion. From my perspective, we will NEVER create a situation where everyone has equal income. If I am wrong, please name the country that currently is successfully operating in that manner. I further submit that, since there is little if any accountability in government, you simply cant keep forking over more and more of your money under the theory that they will "make things more fair". Since you know me personally, perhaps you will believe me when I tell you that I moved to Texas by borrowing $300 from a bank up north that my father had to co-sign. I also had to pay back all that I had borrowed for college. I began my work career as a service writer at a car dealership at a rate that was pretty close to minimum wage. I was the lowest paid guy on the totem pole. But if I had believed that the deck was automatically stacked against me, I wouldnt have made any career progress by working harder and seeking opportunity. Despite bumps along the way and near insolvlency a couple of times, all worked out. The point I am trying to make is that this was done WITHOUT government "compassion" aka intervention. Mrs. Clinton today, advocated "federal guidelines" for encounters such as what happened in Minnesota and Louisiana. If that gains traction, we will simply create another government agency, thus adding to the bureaucracy, and will further hamstring our law enforcement officers more than they have already become. How will we pay for it? My bet is it will be a tax on those who are "not paying their fair share".

It is not difficult to create a business, private, government, otherwise and state how large it is. The debt portion of said business, if managed improperly, will seal the fate of the business unless you can find "lenders" or "taxpayers" that are willing to throw good money after bad which will, to a certain extent, postpone the consequences. I believe Greece has been " rescued" several times to no avail.

Bill Maher? Certainly someone I would want to consult when it comes to financial matters!!!!!!!

Free stuff promises will do that. Its very sad that many honestly believe it is free. Greece and Venezuela both subscribed heavily to the free stuff theory.

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I wish to add that much of what was accomplished was due to the fact that, financially, California was in danger of falling off the cliff a few years ago, and would further suggest that the markets forced the legislators to do things they otherwise would not have. I will still tell you that, without a doubt, those that produce can redeploy their profits far more productively/profitably than the government can. One need look no further than Detroit or Chicago to come to that conclusion. Need I tell you which party has had full control of those cities for many years?

Since 29% of American households have a zero federal tax liability, it suggests to me that the emboldened is already in force.

Bullets- you should have let me make that statement instead of you because I am always up to the challenge of being told I am a racist

Why is she worried about Trump? Isn't it the Supreme Court that winds interpreting/making law?

Very curious to know why you like him so well if you disagreed with him most of the time?

Something EVERYONE ought to try.

Dove, I think you may have "offended" Mr. Trump. Doesnt your "team" denounce being offensive and, instead, is a huge promoter of "tolerance" and "civility"?

He is so insightful!!!!

But our President ( who some consider to be the smartest man in the world) continually preaches diversity and how we are stronger when we are together. Doesn't this sort of violate that theory?

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