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[quote name="westend1" post="1060236" timestamp="1316394390"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1060228#msg1060228 date=1316394110] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1060188#msg1060188 date=1316391166] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1060108#msg1060108 date=1316386217] How convenient that you can change your answer.  Part of my comments were opinions( for which there is no such thing as factually incorrect- as for the specific numbers I gave, they are on the record and available to anyone) I gave specific numbers on inflation in the Carter- Reagan years and some sales numbers for Solyndra.  Quite anxious to find out the fallacy in what I offered in that respect. [/quote]  You clearly have no understanding of the Carter years.  He choked the economy to stave off inflation which had been building for many years.  Look it up. [/quote] Dont need to look it up.    You could say I have a better than average  understanding of inflation because my employment demands it.  But I understand your spin.  Its not much different than " its Bush's fault".  Its a FACT that inflation was at its worst during the Carter presidency(that is undeniable), so if what you say is true, his method in fighting inflation was as counter-productive  as Obamas effort to spur the economy.  Furthermore, the market (in this case, the election market) did not accept your theory and thus awarded Carter a one term presidency. [/quote]  Yeah, the "election market"  doesn't(didn't) have the same understanding of the situation as i do.  Frankly, I didn't either at the time.  But you go right ahead and believe that popular votes are some kind of indication about the reason for performance of the economy. [/quote] Let me see if I understand you correctly.  Your understanding of the "situation" during the Carter years is superior to that of the collective wisdom of the entire voting body of this country.  Don't you think that might be overstating things just a wee tiny little bit? Yes, I will continue to believe the following undeniable fact(s) For the ten year period before Mr. Carter took office, the average annual inflation rate was 5.86% During Mr. Carters four years, the average annual inflation rate was 9.73% For the ten year period after Mr. Carter left office, the annual average inflation rate was 4.74% Mental giantry is not needed in order to draw conclusions on which approaches worked and which did not.

[quote name="westend1" post="1060226" timestamp="1316393956"] [quote author=77 link=topic=87540.msg1060218#msg1060218 date=1316393212] If this was anybody in office besides Obama rep. or dem. these people taking up for him would be all over their butt. You cant defend things they are doing no matter how you spin it, this deal with Solyndra company cant be defended the emails from the doe saying they would go broke in sept. and they gave them the money anyway. This has gotten beyond ridiculous. The media has invested to much into this admin. to report the way it should be reported. I guess I'am just a racist because I dont like any of his policies. Nothing they have done since they have been their has helped [b]repair the damage done by the prior administration.[/b] [/quote]  Fixed it for you. [/quote] Translation- It's Bush's fault    YADA YADA YADA

[quote name="westend1" post="1060188" timestamp="1316391166"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1060108#msg1060108 date=1316386217] How convenient that you can change your answer.  Part of my comments were opinions( for which there is no such thing as factually incorrect- as for the specific numbers I gave, they are on the record and available to anyone) I gave specific numbers on inflation in the Carter- Reagan years and some sales numbers for Solyndra.  Quite anxious to find out the fallacy in what I offered in that respect. [/quote]  You clearly have no understanding of the Carter years.  He choked the economy to stave off inflation which had been building for many years.  Look it up. [/quote] Dont need to look it up.    You could say I have a better than average  understanding of inflation because my employment demands it.  But I understand your spin.  Its not much different than " its Bush's fault".  Its a FACT that inflation was at its worst during the Carter presidency(that is undeniable), so if what you say is true, his method in fighting inflation was as counter-productive  as Obamas effort to spur the economy.  Furthermore, the market (in this case, the election market) did not accept your theory and thus awarded Carter a one term presidency. 

[quote name="westend1" post="1060089" timestamp="1316384778"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1060085#msg1060085 date=1316384593] I tried that but was castigated severely.  As an example, I often used to talk about how so many people seemed to accept everything Obama said without question, as if it were the gospel (oops, excuse me for using a religious word).  Those words were compressed into "gulping" (aka-drinkers of kool aid) .  I then found out that such an approach was disrespectful and an unacceptable method of "delivery".  So, in an effort to become politically correct, I was forced to lengthen my comments.  I was just surprised to hear someone from the left admit that they had trouble comprehending anything longer than 20 or 25 words.  After all, isn't it supposed to be that we, on the left, are at a severe intellectual disadvantage? [/quote]  Oh, it's not a comprehension problem.  Most of it is just so factually incorrect I can dismiss it after a sentence or two.    ;) [/quote] I think that was a popular comment right after the Obamacare plan  was published but Nancy said not to worry about it and just vote yes.

How convenient that you can change your answer.  Part of my comments were opinions( for which there is no such thing as factually incorrect- as for the specific numbers I gave, they are on the record and available to anyone) I gave specific numbers on inflation in the Carter- Reagan years and some sales numbers for Solyndra.  Quite anxious to find out the fallacy in what I offered in that respect.

I tried that but was castigated severely.  As an example, I often used to talk about how so many people seemed to accept everything Obama said without question, as if it were the gospel (oops, excuse me for using a religious word).  Those words were compressed into "gulping" (aka-drinkers of kool aid) .  I then found out that such an approach was disrespectful and an unacceptable method of "delivery".  So, in an effort to become politically correct, I was forced to lengthen my comments.  I was just surprised to hear someone from the left admit that they had trouble comprehending anything longer than 20 or 25 words.  After all, isn't it supposed to be that we, on the left, are at a severe intellectual disadvantage?

[quote name="westend1" post="1059879" timestamp="1316371467"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1059870#msg1059870 date=1316370622] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1059856#msg1059856 date=1316369561] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=87540.msg1059854#msg1059854 date=1316369049] TB does have the ability to ignore the entire picture and take a snippet out of it. How about this one TB, the Democrats had a super majority for two years. There is nothing that the Republicans could do to stop anything that the Democrats wanted to do. What do we have to show for it? They could have pushed tax increases, tax cuts or whatever else they wanted. They did not even want to submit a budget so the public would not see the tiger in its true stripes. [/quote] Could have, but didn't.  so why do Republicans still cry and fret over guns, taxes etc?  Glen Beck has you guys scared of your own shadow. [/quote] Why do they fret over guns and taxes?  The reason I fret over taxes is because I want the money to be in the hands of someone who knows how to productively deploy it and, contrary to the typical dem belief, it definitely is NOT the government.  I know you lean more the left and I to the right, but can you honestly tell me  you believe that, since the current President took office, that the economic policies have been the right ones? [/quote] Depends, I guess.  Do you mean the tax cut extensions?  Don't see how you argue about that.  How about stimulus.  Just about every economist you read about says stimulus is a tool which should be used to fight off recession.  Was the stimulus the right type?  Don't know.  How bad would things have gotten for the auto industry without the clunker deal and cash bailouts?  We won't ever know.  We do know that expanding the money supply is a proven way to grow the economy.  I assume if the answers were easy, we wouldn't have gone into a recession in the first place. [/quote] So then, can I assume it is your contention that the first "stimulus" merely saved things from being worse and the proposed "stimulus" is the one that will get things going again?  The same "economists" who were involved in crafting the "first stimulus" also said that by now (yes, the quote was the third quarter of 2011) unemployment would be below 8%.  While I understand that expanding the money supply(translation; printing money) is believed to help grow an economy, there is always an eventual price to pay called inflation.( if inflation doesnt scare you , it should - check out1977 when carter took office and inflation was at 6.5% the next year it was 7.62%, the next year it was 11.22% the next year it was 13.58% - In Reagans first term, one year after taking office it was back to 6.16%)  Additionally, history does NOT include any money supply expansion of this magnitude.  The current proposal advocates borrowing more $ to hire teachers, policemen, firemen, and construction workers for infrastructure projects( really does "sound" great).  When those borrowed funds have all been used, what leads you to believe that those "created" jobs will remain in existence?  Some believe that, after those funds have been used, the only thing left will be the debt we "created" and likely wont be able to repay.  And when that day comes, we will then be told that all of these brilliant politicians and economists think that more government involvement is our only hope and, of course, that the "rich" are not paying their fair share.  I am still hoping that the day will come that people will conclude that the government is NOT the solution to all problems, particularly of a financial nature.  Doesnt it ever make  you wonder what would happen if, instead of getting more involved in business, the government just got out of the way and let the markets make the decisions?  Solyndra was spending $6 per solar panel and selling it for $3.  We don't need those types of solutions.

[quote name="westend1" post="1059856" timestamp="1316369561"] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=87540.msg1059854#msg1059854 date=1316369049] TB does have the ability to ignore the entire picture and take a snippet out of it. How about this one TB, the Democrats had a super majority for two years. There is nothing that the Republicans could do to stop anything that the Democrats wanted to do. What do we have to show for it? They could have pushed tax increases, tax cuts or whatever else they wanted. They did not even want to submit a budget so the public would not see the tiger in its true stripes. [/quote] Could have, but didn't.  so why do Republicans still cry and fret over guns, taxes etc?  Glen Beck has you guys scared of your own shadow. [/quote] Why do they fret over guns and taxes?  The reason I fret over taxes is because I want the money to be in the hands of someone who knows how to productively deploy it and, contrary to the typical dem belief, it definitely is NOT the government.  I know you lean more the left and I to the right, but can you honestly tell me  you believe that, since the current President took office, that the economic policies have been the right ones? 

[quote name="True Blue" post="1059730" timestamp="1316355754"] Bad news for you REPS.  Top 10 Companies Hiring This Week ,  Sears, Chrysler - Mopar , Dollar General , Aflac,  Verizon,BAE Systems,Morgan Stanley,Chipotle,Wells Fargo, Spirit Halloween Superstores. South Texas Enjoys Major Boom From Oil Fracking.  No solid estimate of likely production has been made, but the American Petroleum Institute said the field should yield billions of barrels of oil. The project already supports [color=red]12,600 fulltime jobs,[/color] and by 2020 could account for [color=red]$11.6 billion and nearly 68,000 jobs[/color] in a 24-county area, according to study in February by the University of Texas' Center for Community and Business Research. Thing are getting better, To bad, no gloom and doom [/quote] Yea, sure they are getting better.  Its just like a player who averages 12 turnovers a game but cuts that to 11 and can claim to be doing 8.5% better. Read the following and tell me how this is Republican spin. [Hidden Content]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1046262" timestamp="1314912753"] I knew there was a reason many of yall seemed worried and just throwing all kinds of road-blocks to halt change ;D Good news for the party for the people; the Obama camp: "a different model, from American University professor Allan Lichtman, "whose election formula has correctly called every president since Ronald Reagan’s 1984 re-election," says Obama is a shoo-in."  :o [/quote] I've got a hunch that Mr. Lichtmans "formula" might have changed considerably even in the short time since you started this thread.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1058012" timestamp="1316180821"] [q ;)ote author=stevenash link=topic=86207.msg1057449#msg1057449 date=1316102479] [quote author=caneyhead#1fan link=topic=86207.msg1057432#msg1057432 date=1316099526] Who cares about the top player, the top team in southeast texas and the universe is defiantly the Orangefield Bobcats [/quote] Defiantly?  Perhaps you meant definitely?  Hmmm- I have a hunch your visit to this board might not be of a long term nature. [/quote]Otay Nash, youse da las peruson on hare dat nedd to be tyring to koreck dey choyce of wurds [/quote] Meye humbul apalogeez

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="1058341" timestamp="1316215550"] I got this Nash ;)....and apparently Height is hard to spell...  ;D Just trying to emulate my hero Nash, I want to be just like him when I grow up.... [/quote] So you want to be a friendly, non controverial poster just like me?

Dove- are you still predicting that HF-HJ split their series this upcoming year or do you now have the Horns winning both games?

Wow- With that statement, you have certainly established a high degree of credibility-  I plan on coming to Austin to watch you bring home the trophy

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1057984" timestamp="1316178058"] I'm just so happy to be discussing any type of basketball within the forum and as much as I'm (still) jealous towards HJ's winning program, I'm willing to join in and continue the talks on how HJ will dismantle their district again..... ::) [/quote] They will probably finish 3rd.

[quote name="True Blue" post="1057615" timestamp="1316120589"] I am looking forward to this season. I wont to see if the HJ coaches are as good as most think they are. This yrs team will be a complete different team then what has played at HJ for the last few yrs. They are big and strong inside with a good slashing 3 guard, but not the 3 shooting team of yrs past. Just wont to see if they coach to the kids or if they try to make the kids playup to them.. [/quote] AS good as most think they are?  I wonder why "most think they are"?  Could fairly regular visits to Huntsville and a state title in recent years have anything to do with that?

[quote name="caneyhead#1fan" post="1057432" timestamp="1316099526"] Who cares about the top player, the top team in southeast texas and the universe is defiantly the Orangefield Bobcats [/quote] Defiantly?  Perhaps you meant definitely?  Hmmm- I have a hunch your visit to this board might not be of a long term nature.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1057268" timestamp="1316056508"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=85458.msg1057035#msg1057035 date=1316036443] " I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothing"- JB must have had a Republican writer at one time ;D [/quote]You left out an important part of the bridge." Open up the door I'll get it myself." repubs keep pulling the door to close. Owww! Say It Loud!!! Good Gawd! Can't Stand It!!! [/quote] When the door is opened, does he walk through it or does he demand the government transport him through?

" I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothing"- JB must have had a Republican writer at one time ;D

I Got The Feelin that I am about to break out in a Cold Sweat  talking about this stuff while lazily typing on the computer.  But I like it so much I am just gonna sit here and continue.  Please Please Please don't force me to Get Up Offa That Thing.

Definitely an "Out Of Sight" comment- Rest assured I will "Bring It Up" again

Dove- I thought you would say- Pappa, don't take no mess"

I would like to reconfirm the previously discussed topic that Dove/AAW will be announcing an Ozen game together this year.

Anybody have any idea why EC pulled out of the HJ tourney this year?

Blue- Just because you can copy and paste an article from the Wichita Eagle that was written by someone from the Kansas City Star does not make it accurate.  Those of you who would confiscate the assets of the "rich" via the tax system are going to make our system one that disincentivizes productivity.  When that happens, there will be no rich from whom to confiscate.  What will you do at that point?  Those same "rich" people already pay the vast majority of all taxes already collected.