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You are NEVER going to have a system where everything is equal.  Regardless of the politics, whose running government, etc. there will ALWAYS be some " have nots".  Some  choose the class warfare approach as simply a way to get elected in to office by making those who have less believe that their "dilemma" will be solved if they just vote for this guy or that guy.  If we took the total  assets in this country and divided them amongst everyone equally today, within a very short time, the very people that are villified as "having too much" or "having benefitted from the sytem unfairly" would again have the majority of assets and somebody would say "vote for me" and I will make sure we "re-divide" those assets so that rich guy is no longer screwing you out of your "fair share".  It has become fashionable and politically correct to equate poverty with nobility and success with "unfairness".  Our current system  encourages those that have less to, rather than seeking their own solution,  have government simply acquire things for them from others.  It's readily apparent to me that this approach has done nothing but create more dependence on the government instead of less.  The "take from the rich and give to the poor" approach  is going to eventually eliminate the rich and make the majority of the country government employees and welfare recipients.  This country did not become a major economic power and the most desireable place on earth to live by redistributing wealth but that has become,in the eyes of many, the preferred solution to all ills.  Will we EVER realize that government is horribly inefficient at nearly everything it does and should NOT be looked upon as the logical/reasonable/efficient solution to most issues?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1052498" timestamp="1315576340"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1049957#msg1049957 date=1315249574] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=87540.msg1049928#msg1049928 date=1315247218] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1049882#msg1049882 date=1315239211] I have an idea that I am pretty sure will help the employment situation.  When some guy wants to open a restaurant, cancel the worthless environmental impact study (that is performed by a bunch of useless bureaucrats ) and let him open the restaurant, sell food, and employ people who will pay taxes along with the restaurant.  Seems pretty simple to me.  Yes, I understand that we might harm the sea turtle or the spotted owl, but for now, lets just try to make hiring a little easier. [/quote] I thought only government agency action required an EIS.  Are you sure that it extends to private business owners?  I don't think opening a restaurant triggers the National Environmental Protection Act. [/quote] You may be right.  My point is that we have gotten so enchanted with environmental concerns/global warming  that there is no more realism and common sense about this stuff.  My guess is that there are hundreds of businesses that might be operating now if it werent for the obstacles one must overcome to get started.  Not to mention the size/cost of those employed by the fed to oversee those things. [/quote] What a predicament for our kids! Burn /freeze/ choke to death from the environment or die homeless with no job. Thanks baby-boomers!!! [/quote] Burn/freeze/choke to death= H Y P  E R B O L E

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1052411" timestamp="1315540102"] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=87928.msg1052388#msg1052388 date=1315538626] Certainly hoping there will not be any, but every year it seems someone gets injured during football season and gets knocked out of basketball or has to play injured. Post any updates throughout football season. [/quote] Silsbee lost their potential starting post player till at least the first of January. He injured his knee in the first football scrimmage and will miss all of football season and will not be back till district starts in basketball. [/quote] The two previously discussed move-ins (aka the rich keep getting richer) should fill that void nicely, shouldn't they?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1051054" timestamp="1315362268"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=85538.msg1050834#msg1050834 date=1315343397] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=85538.msg1050789#msg1050789 date=1315340247] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=85538.msg1050703#msg1050703 date=1315333195] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=85538.msg1050547#msg1050547 date=1315324679] [quote author=Kelly Basketball link=topic=85538.msg1032495#msg1032495 date=1312822159] The three youth programs who are the most fundamentally sound in terms of player skills and team concepts are in no particular order Nederland (Central and C.O. Wilson) Hardin Jefferson or Henderson and St. Anne. I've seen alot of teams play and these are the teams that routinely have a system that their players execute. [/quote]While sitting here in basketball *rehab* Kelly Basketball bring up some good points. Basketball is truly a team game. A player may not have all the fundamentals but some school systems are able to *hide* the player's weaknesses in that particular system. IMHO, I think this what makes HJ so good. The coaches get the best from their players by playing in a system that suit their style of athletes out there. [/quote] Isn't that what coaching is all about?  Finding a system that best suits the players? [/quote]Nash, I gave the coaches a compliment. Thats the best I can do for right now ;D [/quote] Actually, the coaching has little to do with it.  Has more to do with that continuing streak of luck. [/quote]Better you admit to this than me. Thanks for taking the pressure off me I knew it all te time ;D [/quote] No problem.  Kobe and LeBron have experienced the same thing and they dont seem to care whether it is labeled luck or skill just as long as the end result is good.

They will if unemployment stays at 9%

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1050789" timestamp="1315340247"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=85538.msg1050703#msg1050703 date=1315333195] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=85538.msg1050547#msg1050547 date=1315324679] [quote author=Kelly Basketball link=topic=85538.msg1032495#msg1032495 date=1312822159] The three youth programs who are the most fundamentally sound in terms of player skills and team concepts are in no particular order Nederland (Central and C.O. Wilson) Hardin Jefferson or Henderson and St. Anne. I've seen alot of teams play and these are the teams that routinely have a system that their players execute. [/quote]While sitting here in basketball *rehab* Kelly Basketball bring up some good points. Basketball is truly a team game. A player may not have all the fundamentals but some school systems are able to *hide* the player's weaknesses in that particular system. IMHO, I think this what makes HJ so good. The coaches get the best from their players by playing in a system that suit their style of athletes out there. [/quote] Isn't that what coaching is all about?  Finding a system that best suits the players? [/quote]Nash, I gave the coaches a compliment. Thats the best I can do for right now ;D [/quote] Actually, the coaching has little to do with it.  Has more to do with that continuing streak of luck.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1050547" timestamp="1315324679"] [quote author=Kelly Basketball link=topic=85538.msg1032495#msg1032495 date=1312822159] The three youth programs who are the most fundamentally sound in terms of player skills and team concepts are in no particular order Nederland (Central and C.O. Wilson) Hardin Jefferson or Henderson and St. Anne. I've seen alot of teams play and these are the teams that routinely have a system that their players execute. [/quote]While sitting here in basketball *rehab* Kelly Basketball bring up some good points. Basketball is truly a team game. A player may not have all the fundamentals but some school systems are able to *hide* the player's weaknesses in that particular system. IMHO, I think this what makes HJ so good. The coaches get the best from their players by playing in a system that suit their style of athletes out there. [/quote] Isn't that what coaching is all about?  Finding a system that best suits the players?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1050659" timestamp="1315330832"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=85458.msg1050609#msg1050609 date=1315328388] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=85458.msg1050607#msg1050607 date=1315328274] Sure would be funny if HJ didn't make playoffs this year [/quote] Don't bet on it. And if you do, I want some of that action. [/quote]Nah, they've been lucky all these years to bet against ;D [/quote] Luck is a wonderful thing.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1050607" timestamp="1315328274"] Sure would be funny if HJ didn't make playoffs this year [/quote]\ Translation = A dream come true for "some"/"one"

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1050131" timestamp="1315267228"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=86408.msg1050069#msg1050069 date=1315263135] It will delay the inevitable state title by only a year thereby giving Ozen the crown in both 2013 and 2014.  It will be very nice to HF and  Ozen hoisting their banners in the same year (s) [/quote]LOL!  I have never said Ozen will win a state title by 2015. I don't know anything about the teams at Ozen. 8) [/quote] I admire your humility, sir.  You know something about every team in the GoldenTriangle.  You are probably the one to whom the bookies turn to find the line on each game.

It will delay the inevitable state title by only a year thereby giving Ozen the crown in both 2013 and 2014.  It will be very nice to HF and  Ozen hoisting their banners in the same year (s)

[quote name="ford15" post="1049967" timestamp="1315251707"] Heard one Dove already flew the coop over to Kelly! :) ;) [/quote] Pretty expensive to go to Kelly.  Was there a "scholarship" involved?

[quote name="westend1" post="1049928" timestamp="1315247218"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1049882#msg1049882 date=1315239211] I have an idea that I am pretty sure will help the employment situation.  When some guy wants to open a restaurant, cancel the worthless environmental impact study (that is performed by a bunch of useless bureaucrats ) and let him open the restaurant, sell food, and employ people who will pay taxes along with the restaurant.  Seems pretty simple to me.  Yes, I understand that we might harm the sea turtle or the spotted owl, but for now, lets just try to make hiring a little easier. [/quote] I thought only government agency action required an EIS.  Are you sure that it extends to private business owners?  I don't think opening a restaurant triggers the National Environmental Protection Act. [/quote] You may be right.  My point is that we have gotten so enchanted with environmental concerns/global warming  that there is no more realism and common sense about this stuff.  My guess is that there are hundreds of businesses that might be operating now if it werent for the obstacles one must overcome to get started.  Not to mention the size/cost of those employed by the fed to oversee those things.

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1049913" timestamp="1315245638"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1049816#msg1049816 date=1315229871] [quote author=77 link=topic=87540.msg1049024#msg1049024 date=1315107332] What is this guy done that would make yall want him back in? [/quote]The notion that the stimulus failed has hardened into Republican orthodoxy, but it doesn't hold up. A study released last week by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office confirmed that as of June, between 1 million and 2.9 million people are working who wouldn't otherwise have been, thanks to the stimulus. That study wasn't an outlier. Several others came to similar conclusions, including one by the economists Alan Blinder and Mark Zandi. As Jared Bernstein notes, the analysis by Blinder and Zandi found that the stimulus was responsible for roughly 2.7 million jobs and increased the GDP in 2010 by a healthy 3.4 percent.But a payroll tax cut has been in effect since the start of the year, and as Bruce Bartlett, who served as a Treasury official in President George H.W. Bush's administration, wrote this week, "There is no evidence that the lower payroll tax has done much of anything to stimulate either spending or hiring." The Obama administration has proposed extending the cut into next year. Republicans oppose the idea. The Republicans only wont the tax cut for the top 1% not for the working class. [/quote] Source? [/quote] [Hidden Content]

I have an idea that I am pretty sure will help the employment situation.  When some guy wants to open a restaurant, cancel the worthless environmental impact study (that is performed by a bunch of useless bureaucrats ) and let him open the restaurant, sell food, and employ people who will pay taxes along with the restaurant.  Seems pretty simple to me.  Yes, I understand that we might harm the sea turtle or the spotted owl, but for now, lets just try to make hiring a little easier.

[quote name="True Blue" post="1049816" timestamp="1315229871"] [quote author=77 link=topic=87540.msg1049024#msg1049024 date=1315107332] What is this guy done that would make yall want him back in? [/quote]The notion that the stimulus failed has hardened into Republican orthodoxy, but it doesn't hold up. A study released last week by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office confirmed that as of June, between 1 million and 2.9 million people are working who wouldn't otherwise have been, thanks to the stimulus. That study wasn't an outlier. Several others came to similar conclusions, including one by the economists Alan Blinder and Mark Zandi. As Jared Bernstein notes, the analysis by Blinder and Zandi found that the stimulus was responsible for roughly 2.7 million jobs and increased the GDP in 2010 by a healthy 3.4 percent.But a payroll tax cut has been in effect since the start of the year, and as Bruce Bartlett, who served as a Treasury official in President George H.W. Bush's administration, wrote this week, "There is no evidence that the lower payroll tax has done much of anything to stimulate either spending or hiring." The Obama administration has proposed extending the cut into next year. Republicans oppose the idea. The Republicans only wont the tax cut for the top 1% not for the working class. [/qu AT a cost of $285,000 per job, wouldnt you guess there would have been better alternatives?

A doctor from Israel says: " In Israel the medicine is so advanced that we cut off a man's testicles, we put them into another man, and in 6 weeks he is looking for work." The German doctor comments: "That's nothing, in Germany we take part of the brain out of a person; we put it into another person's head, and in 4 weeks he is looking for work." A Russian doctor says: "That's nothing either. In Russia we take out half of the heart from a person; we put it into another person's chest, and in 2 weeks he is looking for work." The U.S. doctor answers immediately: "That's nothing my colleagues, you are way behind us....in the USA, about 2 years ago, we grabbed a person from Kenya with no brains, no heart, and no balls...we made him President of the United States, and now....the whole country is looking for work.

[quote name="bmrm" post="1047327" timestamp="1315003628"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=85458.msg1044903#msg1044903 date=1314727497] [quote author=Jay Bilas link=topic=85458.msg1044890#msg1044890 date=1314726734] Not intending to down your area, but my point was what is actually in Sour Lake that would make a family up and move there from somewhere else. You have answered that question. And so do they usually just happen to have a son that can play ball, too? usually? I am sure Sour Lake is a fine place to live. [/quote] NO - very few move ins in Sour Lake who have good basketball players.( in fact, I have been watching this program since 1984 and this is the first one I can think of that has a chance to make a substantial impact even though  he is not likely to start- is it that way at Yates?)  Little Dribblers program is a good one and develops the overwhelming majority of those who play at Hardin Jefferson- ( i think that is the way it is supposed to be done and, if it was that way everywhere, HJs basketball history might be even better than it currently is) [/quote] I have to bring into question the level of intelligence of the Twin County Little Dribbler board members - they allowed me to coach two years!!! ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Is your name Phil Jackson?

[quote name="True Blue" post="1047341" timestamp="1315005305"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1047321#msg1047321 date=1315003070] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1047319#msg1047319 date=1315002567] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1047304#msg1047304 date=1315001895] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1047273#msg1047273 date=1315000832] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1047264#msg1047264 date=1315000575] Very kind of you to give him credit for that.  But I guess its only fair as he has gotten credit for everything. ;D [/quote]You got me all wrong Nash, I do not dislike the Guy. I think it would be great to sit down a drink a few beers with the guy. And I dont think he was Evil, but as a leader of the free world I dont think he was up for that. Sort of like that look that Wade use to get on the sideline for the Cowboys, kind of lost. [/quote] And you are suggesting that the current Pres is, as you say, up to it?  Sorry, but the apology tour and the coddling of the Muslims is not my idea of being up to it.  And I needn't even mention economic understanding. [/quote] So you you saying that we should wage war against the entire Muslim world? I dont think coddling is the answer but We can not keep fighting the world. Look at what this war has cost the US now. If not for the two wars Bush would not have ran up the debt so high. Now before you start , we had to answer the 9 11 attack. But the Iraq war was foolish and costly. [/quote] Not looking for war.  But I also dont want my president out on an apology tour regarding "Americas arrogance" and making sure he doesnt step on the toes of Muslims at the expense of everyone else in this country. [/quote] I think someone said this before you might remember who" Speek softly and carry a big stick" I dont think we need to go around pound our chest and telling the world we are the Big dog in the yard. You know that when you do that someone is going to try and take you on. JMO I think we need to take care of our own and let the rest take of themselfs. Again JMO i fell if we leave the Muslims to there own world they wont have time or money to wont to attack the US. All I ever here any of them saying is just leave us alone. So leave the whole bunch alone pull out of the OIL fields and see how long it takes for them to learn to eat oil burggers. They cant feed themselfs. Corn wont grow in the sand. Does it make you wonder at all why there are Muslim attacks in France, England, Sweden, etc.  I dont think any of those countries (particularly France) are out pounding there chests and claiming to be the big dog.  If they believe they can take over the world ( I think there is a German who once felt that way) is it better to wait for them here? [/quote]

[quote name="True Blue" post="1047319" timestamp="1315002567"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1047304#msg1047304 date=1315001895] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1047273#msg1047273 date=1315000832] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1047264#msg1047264 date=1315000575] Very kind of you to give him credit for that.  But I guess its only fair as he has gotten credit for everything. ;D [/quote]You got me all wrong Nash, I do not dislike the Guy. I think it would be great to sit down a drink a few beers with the guy. And I dont think he was Evil, but as a leader of the free world I dont think he was up for that. Sort of like that look that Wade use to get on the sideline for the Cowboys, kind of lost. [/quote] And you are suggesting that the current Pres is, as you say, up to it?  Sorry, but the apology tour and the coddling of the Muslims is not my idea of being up to it.  And I needn't even mention economic understanding. [/quote] So you you saying that we should wage war against the entire Muslim world? I dont think coddling is the answer but We can not keep fighting the world. Look at what this war has cost the US now. If not for the two wars Bush would not have ran up the debt so high. Now before you start , we had to answer the 9 11 attack. But the Iraq war was foolish and costly. [/quote] Not looking for war.  But I also dont want my president out on an apology tour regarding "Americas arrogance" and making sure he doesnt step on the toes of Muslims at the expense of everyone else in this country.

[quote name="True Blue" post="1047273" timestamp="1315000832"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87540.msg1047264#msg1047264 date=1315000575] Very kind of you to give him credit for that.  But I guess its only fair as he has gotten credit for everything. ;D [/quote]You got me all wrong Nash, I do not dislike the Guy. I think it would be great to sit down a drink a few beers with the guy. And I dont think he was Evil, but as a leader of the free world I dont think he was up for that. Sort of like that look that Wade use to get on the sideline for the Cowboys, kind of lost. [/quote] And you are suggesting that the current Pres is, as you say, up to it?  Sorry, but the apology tour and the coddling of the Muslims is not my idea of being up to it.  And I needn't even mention economic understanding.

Very kind of you to give him credit for that.  But I guess its only fair as he has gotten credit for everything. ;D

[quote name="ABSENT!" post="1047234" timestamp="1314998803"] Ourtside of the crazy Paul is actually a better choice than others you all have in mind.  But we can't vote for free thinkers... We only want Right or Left winged Zombies! America the foolish, compromise has always been one of the staples of our greatness! We are turning into any other monarchy, where they who are in power at that time can just drive the ship into a waterfall rather than compromise to get it to the shore! [/quote] And who is responsible for us turning into a crowd that won't compromise?  Is there a small chance that could be blamed on George Bush?

[quote name="True Blue" post="1047203" timestamp="1314997230"] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=87540.msg1047196#msg1047196 date=1314996951] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1047188#msg1047188 date=1314996765] OK so lets take you facts and say that [size=12pt][b]after the Rep got control in 2010[/b][/size] we can give them the credit for the unemployment being 9% today. seeing in july of 2010 it was 7.5% [/quote] Got control of what? There are the House, the Senate and the president needed to pass a bill into law. The Republicans control 1/3rd of that equation. Exactly what are they in control of? All they can do is stop bills from being passed. They have already pass legislation in the House and it was quickly rejected by the Democrat controlled Senate. I or I would venture to say anyone else has a clue what you are talking about with Republican control. [/quote]You clam that the only reason that the Clinton yrs were good is because the House was under REP control. Now you have control again you wont to blame everything on the Dem white house. [/quote] Yes- they should be more open minded.  You obviously didnt blame anything on the Bush white house, did you?

[quote name="tvc184" post="1047148" timestamp="1314996040"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=87540.msg1047138#msg1047138 date=1314995231] I know that times or hard and work is short but he took the job from a fool  that drove the country here and he is having to deal with it as he goes, but you give him no credit and all the blame. [/quote] The last time that the Republicans had control of Congress and the presidency was in 2006. When the Republicans lost control of Congress in December 2006, the unemployment was 4.4% and was still at 4.6% when the Democrats won the House. That was after the Clinton recession that Bush took over and almost immediately into 9-11. Within 18 months of 9-11 and the unemployment topped out at 6.2% and then started falling and continued to fall until the Republicans lost control of Congress. Just to make sure that you didn't miss it, the Republican controlled congress has not passed any laws since 2006. [/quote] Warning TVC- Indisputable facts are often not welcomed here or are completeld ignored