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[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1008143" timestamp="1304976797"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=84106.msg1008130#msg1008130 date=1304976089] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84106.msg1008128#msg1008128 date=1304975877] Keep us posted when HF will appear this summer in a local tournament. I'm sure many are looking for any improvements from last season ;) [/quote] I would like to be there.  I want to be one of the first to claim that he witnessed the future champs in their infancy. [/quote]One of the few individuals who have supported HF publicily and believe in their future [/quote] Thats because I know/understand the power of certain individuals in the background.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1008105" timestamp="1304973300"] [quote author=speechless link=topic=83666.msg1008098#msg1008098 date=1304972136] who cares?  it's summer ball [/quote]I care! But several teams were missing players and hamshire Fannett didn't partake, so its all moot anyway [/quote] Why didn't HF partake?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1008128" timestamp="1304975877"] Keep us posted when HF will appear this summer in a local tournament. I'm sure many are looking for any improvements from last season ;) [/quote] I would like to be there.  I want to be one of the first to claim that he witnessed the future champs in their infancy.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1008081" timestamp="1304969307"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=83666.msg1008026#msg1008026 date=1304961145] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=83666.msg1007998#msg1007998 date=1304958749] Dove, does Prudhomme have a chance against the Longhorns?  Is somebody going to "lock him down"?  If you say yes, I want to arrange a wager with you. [/quote]Prudhomme is "da man." I'm not taking any bets against this young man. ;) [/quote] How did Nederland hold him? I saw where Ned won the game, but was not able to be there. Did they shut down Prudhomme? [/quote] The Nederland -HJ game was a triple overtime affair.  After two overtimes proved fruitless, the ref simply stated that the first score wins.  Nederland was fouled on a rebound and made the free throw ending the game in the third overtime.  I wouldn't say that " Ned held him".

Dove, does Prudhomme have a chance against the Longhorns?  Is somebody going to "lock him down"?  If you say yes, I want to arrange a wager with you.

The "accomplishment" might be slightly less newsworthy if the player is 6'5" and the coach is 6'

Couldnt have happened to nicer bunch of guys.  Perhaps now the overt hero worship of Phil Jackson and Kobe Bryant might moderate a little.

[quote name="no-look" post="1007213" timestamp="1304778267"] Heard that a local coach(setx) was going up for a rebound and was dunked on by a player......heard it was ugly!     ;D [/quote] Thats hard to imagine.

[quote name="bmrm" post="1007037" timestamp="1304735253"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=83893.msg1006694#msg1006694 date=1304708767] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=83893.msg1006667#msg1006667 date=1304703884] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=83893.msg1006641#msg1006641 date=1304700386] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=83893.msg1005930#msg1005930 date=1304603468] I would suggest you guys get in the gym early. You're going to need the extra work for district play this upcoming season ;D [/quote] No need to get there early.  It has already been decided that HJ will struggle to gain a playoff berth this year while Silsbee and West Orange battle for second and third behind HF who, next March, will bring home the state crown. [/quote]NO!NO!NO! HF will make playoffs this year. Baby steps...... [/quote] Ok - But that is not what you had been stating in the past.  What has altered your position. [/quote] Nash - can my incoming freshman participate in open gym this summer?  [/quote] I believe so

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1006667" timestamp="1304703884"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=83893.msg1006641#msg1006641 date=1304700386] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=83893.msg1005930#msg1005930 date=1304603468] I would suggest you guys get in the gym early. You're going to need the extra work for district play this upcoming season ;D [/quote] No need to get there early.  It has already been decided that HJ will struggle to gain a playoff berth this year while Silsbee and West Orange battle for second and third behind HF who, next March, will bring home the state crown. [/quote]NO!NO!NO! HF will make playoffs this year. Baby steps...... [/quote] Ok - But that is not what you had been stating in the past.  What has altered your position.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1005930" timestamp="1304603468"] I would suggest you guys get in the gym early. You're going to need the extra work for district play this upcoming season ;D [/quote] No need to get there early.  It has already been decided that HJ will struggle to gain a playoff berth this year while Silsbee and West Orange battle for second and third behind HF who, next March, will bring home the state crown.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1005933" timestamp="1304603752"] [quote author=bmrm link=topic=49400.msg1005454#msg1005454 date=1304475576] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=49400.msg1004883#msg1004883 date=1304358766] [quote author=bmrm link=topic=49400.msg520204#msg520204 date=1233683362] I beg to differ.  Some of this year's freshmen will win varsity games for us next year & the years after that.  Everyone seems to forget that this thread was started by a Silsbee fan who proclaimed HJ's success in this district was over.  After the HJ freshmen have totally dominated the Silsbee freshmen this year & still have another opportunity to beat them again, who in their right mind would make such a ridiculous assertion?  [b]I can't wait for the 2010-2011 [/b]& 2011-2012 seasons when the HJ boys dominate Silsbee again!!! [quote author=#10gwh link=topic=49400.msg519801#msg519801 date=1233652553] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=49400.msg519619#msg519619 date=1233636041] That's odd, 10gwh-  I interpreted that comment refers not to the weakness of the HJ varsity but of the Silsbee freshmen. [/quote] im sorry but your freshman arent going to win any of your varsity games for you... you should probably be talking about the team that is playing for you right now not 2 years down the road or next year [/quote] [/quote] bmrm, care to recant? ;D [/quote] No I don't because I sincerely thought my Hawks would be able to somehow persevere & win district.  Obviously I was incorrect & congratulate Silsbee on proving me wrong.  Just as you are an avid backer of the Tigers, I am the same of my Hawks!!!  I look forward to our continued rivalry & hope for the best for both schools!  [/quote]I do hope you guys must that you can't stay on top forever. You two will be getting a strong push from HF this year. [/quote] Strong Push?  Isn't that a bit of an understatement for next seasons 3-a champs?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1002042" timestamp="1303745387"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=83586.msg1002019#msg1002019 date=1303741011] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=83586.msg1002008#msg1002008 date=1303739455] Is this the same weekend for the Nederland Tourney? I hope not. CAUSE I want to see HF boys kick some tail in OF. [/quote] Why would Nederland play in the Orangefield tourney if they were hosting one themselves on the same weekend? Reading skills, Dove, reading skills. ::) [/quote]Sorry, I'm dealing with jet lag at the moment. [/quote] Jet lag?  Does this mean that the Doves are now involved in international basketball?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="999485" timestamp="1303230399"] [quote author=Dove Hunter link=topic=82787.msg999472#msg999472 date=1303228562] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=82787.msg999029#msg999029 date=1303138177] Dove- When you bring home the 2012 Trophy, you will find that a lot of these detractors will disappear and then re-appear trying to be your friend.  Not me- as I said before, I want on this bandwagon early. [/quote] Nash, I thought you were going to continue to sore high with the Hawks?  You are not a fair weather friend are you?  Is this the old maxim, "If you can't beat them, join them"? [/quote]Looks like the battle is taking place between HJ and HF for district next year, Silsbee in the hunt somewhere too  :o [/quote] I only hope that the Hawks can stay on the court when they encounter the 2011-2012 State Champs

[quote name="Dove Hunter" post="999472" timestamp="1303228562"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=82787.msg999029#msg999029 date=1303138177] Dove- When you bring home the 2012 Trophy, you will find that a lot of these detractors will disappear and then re-appear trying to be your friend.  Not me- as I said before, I want on this bandwagon early. [/quote] Nash, I thought you were going to continue to sore high with the Hawks?  You are not a fair weather friend are you?  Is this the old maxim, "If you can't beat them, join them"? [/quote] I have never "sored" with the Hawks.  However, I may soar with them.

The attention will be magnified when they bring home the big trophy next March

Dove- When you bring home the 2012 Trophy, you will find that a lot of these detractors will disappear and then re-appear trying to be your friend.  Not me- as I said before, I want on this bandwagon early.

[quote name="Zoneblock" post="997843" timestamp="1302894410"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=82787.msg997608#msg997608 date=1302865778] Did anybody check the weight room? [/quote] why dont you check it for us and come back and give us a full report.  Unbiased of course. [/quote] Why would there be any bias in the report you request?  Either they are there or they aren't. Certainly glad there was no bias in your request.

Obviously we cannot fill up the roster with local players.  Once again, I ask all of you naysayers, how many "special" players have there been at Lamar in recent history?  If player A is from Mississippi and player B is from, lets say, Diboll or Jasper, and they have comparable abilities, why does everyone always get so impressed with acquiring the guy from Mississippi?  I haven't seen anything on their roster in recent years that suggests that some other geographical area produces superior players who are willing to play at Lamars level.  When Gulley was taken at Lamar, we heard the same old tired comments:  He is from a small school and therefore can't play with the "big boys"  Mr. Gulley gave Karl Malone all he could handle.

Did anybody check the weight room?

[quote name="badndn" post="997468" timestamp="1302817392"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=83117.msg997300#msg997300 date=1302796734]Ever hear of a guy named James Gulley from Newton?  I would also suggest that the last 5 years proves that bringing in the mystery player from "afar" certainly hasnt been the answer either. [/quote] How long ago was that? Who in the last 20 years has come outta the GT that LU could have gotten that was a star somewhere else? The Hancocks were nice players, but not must have players. If PK is going to be successful he is going to have to recruit Houston and DFW hard. [/quote] Yes, the Hancocks were "nice" players.  My point is that Lamar has brought in people from far away that were no better than the Hancocks.  Would it make sense that, if you have two players of similar abilities and one of them is from the area, that Lamar might generate a little more local interest/attendance having some of them?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="997270" timestamp="1302793524"] [quote author=tamulonghorn link=topic=83117.msg997243#msg997243 date=1302791411] hmmm....maybe you guys that had your negative responses ought to check out larry tidwell and see how he does business he can probably tell you the name of every girls head coach in this area and has made a point to make contact with them that is why he is so good at what he does he has got the pr down i had coaches tell me that he would go to their clinic in san antonio every year and just hang out with the high school coaches and get to know them pr is a huge part of the college world especially when you are taking over a down program [/quote]I agree with what you are saying. But you're not going to win dependent upon local talent in this area. Sure its good PR and it looks good to see the coach sitting in the stands. [/quote] Ever hear of a guy named James Gulley from Newton?  I would also suggest that the last 5 years proves that bringing in the mystery player from "afar" certainly hasnt been the answer either.

I think most of the coaches (at least the good and knowledgeable ones) are aware of that.  Even if a high school coach thinks a kid has the ability and Knight looks him over and disagrees, it is still good PR to have good relationships with people in the same business.

Perhaps he could get to know the area coaches and let them know he would be interested in looking at anyone they thought might have the ability to play at the next level. 

Hopefully he will do well.  However, someone over there has to understand that when that attempted layup clanks off the rim and bounces out to the free throw line, it implies that the player may have too much strength and not enough skill.