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[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="984994" timestamp="1300475487"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81494.msg984964#msg984964 date=1300473504] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81494.msg984962#msg984962 date=1300473370] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81494.msg983831#msg983831 date=1300297685] [quote author=killingmesmalls link=topic=81494.msg983824#msg983824 date=1300296953] Wildcatter stated "You are forgetting that a football ad is the guy who is going to be doing the hiring.  We had an opportunity to hire a really good basketball assistant last year, everything checked out on him etc.  Then, at the last moment, a good football assistant opened up and we instead had a new assistant bb coach who had never even played the game. I just think that a true bb coach is going to have trouble here due to the fact that the fb coach is not really interested in building a solid program, he wants to build "athletes" which means better football.  JMO" Who would this "good assistant" be???  The assistant that was hired was a head basketball coach and is the only one on the staff with ANY playoff experience.  Who should HF have hired? Does anyone know the list of applicants yet?  AAW has said a few clues as to who has applied but no concrete list. [/quote] I have been privy of some of the names on the list (which is still growing, no deadline set yet) but until HF makes it public, then I will not mention any names. [/quote]Aggie, don't you guys use the Freedom of Information Act to get those names for your media outlets? [/quote] Yes we do. But this is not that important to go to those lengths. ;) ;D [/quote] :D Rodney Dangerfield syndrone :D :D Poor HF [/quote] Dove- Have you considered changing careers and becoming the next BBALL leader/guru at HF?  If not, I will bet it is because you don't want to lift weights to set an example.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="984698" timestamp="1300419338"] [quote author=ForeverADog link=topic=81741.msg984257#msg984257 date=1300372833] His name is Colton Weisbrod. Also a good baseball player. Or so his dad tells me ;D [/quote]Oh okay thats him because the coach could not pronounce his last name. [/quote Good player.  Particularly good when you consider his age. \

I dont think Tim Davis is an HJ product.

[quote name="dogs1218" post="988334" timestamp="1301092340"] You are right all mighty Nash.. I have no opinion on the subject nor am I allowed to give any.. Please enlighten us all with you superior knowledge of who should be vested with the great honor? [/quote].  I wouldn't know- have only seen two of them. I know better than to offer an unqualified opinion

[quote name="dogs1218" post="988234" timestamp="1301086304"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=82184.msg988144#msg988144 date=1301077518] How many of those offering opinions have seen each of these MVPs play at least several times last season?  If you haven't, how can you give an objective opinion? [/quote] So we are playing this game huh? Fine.. :D I said Kelvin he was a huge part of Nederland this year and helped his team get to the regional final. Then the other pick was close, so held back from voting again since DC was the only one I have seen more than a few times, this season [/quote] What game?  Is there anything wrong with suggesting that in order to evaluate a group of players objectively, that one should have seen them all play and have seen them more than once?

Could we call that the "sweet sixteen"?

[quote name="jumpstop" post="988178" timestamp="1301081390"] I thought someone posted earlier that over 40 had applied for the job. Did they trim the fat down to 16, or did only 16 apply. [/quote] My guess is that the "40 applicant" suggestion was merely that.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="988163" timestamp="1301079005"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=82161.msg988158#msg988158 date=1301078814] [quote author=geezer link=topic=82161.msg987876#msg987876 date=1301015151] I know there is plenty of bad blood toward Abettemarco's arrogance toward the community the first time around, I think he has stated in an interview that he was out of line and regrets his earlier comments. [/quote] Yea, sure.  And every inmate on death row has suddenly "found God". [/quote]C'mon Nash, death row will make you find some kind of supreme being ;D [/quote] I agree- and there are some older coaches out there who feel as though they are trapped(sort of a coaches death row) and will say anything to escape their current dilemma.

[quote name="geezer" post="987876" timestamp="1301015151"] I know there is plenty of bad blood toward Abettemarco's arrogance toward the community the first time around, I think he has stated in an interview that he was out of line and regrets his earlier comments. [/quote] Yea, sure.  And every inmate on death row has suddenly "found God".

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="988118" timestamp="1301073910"] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=82161.msg988116#msg988116 date=1301073788] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=82161.msg988042#msg988042 date=1301061483] Has the interviewing started yet? [/quote] Not yet.  Simmons is out of the country.  I think Tidwell said they plan to narrow it down to 5 or 10 candidates and then bring them on campus at that point.  They want to have a decision made by April 7th. [/quote]Oh really? Then I'm going to keep my mouth shut because I know for a fact  :-X :-X :-X :-X [/quote] Dove- Dont go screwing up the hiring process up by trying to convince any of the candidates that the greater coaching opportunity lies somewhere between Beaumont and Winnie.

How many of those offering opinions have seen each of these MVPs play at least several times last season?  If you haven't, how can you give an objective opinion?

[quote name="tamulonghorn" post="988109" timestamp="1301072501"] yall r crazy if u think jasper coach is best on that list [/quote] I am sure he is well versed in UOS

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="988066" timestamp="1301065700"] So where are the HJ APPLICANTS?  >:( >:( [/quote] I tried to apply, but they said I was too old and had too much negative Karma on this board

[quote name="dogs1218" post="987840" timestamp="1301004743"] I voted ;) Easy picks [/quote] What you mean is you answered your own question

[quote name="#1 Manager" post="987613" timestamp="1300943141"] Who do you think is the MVP of MVPs?  You can vote 2x per user. [/quote] Why dont you ask Dogs1218 his opinion.  I think you know him very well

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="987793" timestamp="1300996499"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81681.msg987741#msg987741 date=1300988287] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=81681.msg987719#msg987719 date=1300984645] One more question, Dove.  You mentioned if HF had 4 "ballers"-  Can you define "ballers" for me?  I have a feeling that,when they were drafted in the same year, Allen Iverson would have been perceived as a "baller" and Ray Allen would not have been.  Isn't it interesting how things have worked out?  The Knicks are playing 500(%) ball since the addition of Carmelo Anthony while the Nuggets have won 8 of 11 during the same time frame.  I guess they found a way to survive with one less "baller".  ;D [/quote]In HF's case, a baller is anyone who truly loves the game and willing to improve and learn from a good coach.  Take the extra minute to learn the game. Know the difference between a baseball and a basketball. [/quote]... and I think therein lies the problem.  In the 8th to 9th grade you've got "ballers" as you explained.  Then, for various reasons, the ballers lose their interest/focus. [/quote] No- they become weight lifters who play basketball instead of basketball players who lift weights

If my memory is correct, there have been some very fine athletes from this area with the name Hadnot.  I particularly remember a football/basketball player from Kirbyville some years ago.

I like and appreciate that definition.  You did mention something about "if the HF kids apply the rules and principles of playing basketball.  If they do that, they would certainly improve.  But who is to say that the competition won't be doing the same thing?

I have the same recollection.  No Troup stomp, but one heck of Huntington stomp.

One more question, Dove.  You mentioned if HF had 4 "ballers"-  Can you define "ballers" for me?  I have a feeling that,when they were drafted in the same year, Allen Iverson would have been perceived as a "baller" and Ray Allen would not have been.  Isn't it interesting how things have worked out?  The Knicks are playing 500(%) ball since the addition of Carmelo Anthony while the Nuggets have won 8 of 11 during the same time frame.  I guess they found a way to survive with one less "baller".  ;D

[quote name="east texas bb" post="987609" timestamp="1300941206"] Still got one and the weights to go with it.  I hadnt thought about jumping on it anytime soon though!  Those angle jumps are a beast.  We had a red one and by the time we was done with, the paint was wore off.  [/quote] Your mom would have told you to say "worn off" in lieu of "wore off". Did Coach Hand personally use that machine?  When he used to stomp the floor, the boom that was created suggested a very strong leg.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="987712" timestamp="1300983857"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=81681.msg987706#msg987706 date=1300983198] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81681.msg987665#msg987665 date=1300974931] Yeah, but theory can be more fun than reality. Lets use HF as the example (again). If our kids apply the principles & rules of playing basketball (skill training, games,mental exercise, etc)  all summer for about 4-5 hours a day, my theory tells me we can whip HJ and Silsbee butt next season ;D [/quote]That's a good theory. But in reality, if your kids spent 4-5 hours a day in the gym all summer they'd be burnt out on basketball and HJ and Silsbee would once again whip's HF's butt next season. Just goes to show that there is a difference between theory and reality.  ;) [/quote]Ah but the true reality is that true ballers have no problem playing 4-5 hours a day, while the rest play video games. All we need are at least 4 true ballers to carry us in order to beat HJ ;) [/quote] Am I correct in assuming that YOU are assuming that the HF kids will play basketball 4-5 hours per day and the HJ kids will spend that same time playing videos?  The results of HJ basketball program do NOT suggest that to be the case.

theory and realilty are often quite different

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="987441" timestamp="1300903781"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=81681.msg987436#msg987436 date=1300902906] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81681.msg987427#msg987427 date=1300901143] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=81681.msg987328#msg987328 date=1300890789] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81681.msg987325#msg987325 date=1300890686] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=81681.msg986909#msg986909 date=1300834484] I agree with you buddy. HJ may go to state next year. Those two studs they have coming back will be hard to handle. Silsbee will play small ball next year and may have a hard time against bigger teams. [/quote]Actually, HF will match up well with HJ this year. It will be different if HF gets the right coach to instill dicipline in the team and a will to win. [/quote] Who is it that will be matching up with Prudhomme? [/quote]Oh thats easy. We have two bigs to help out and quick guards to strip him when put it on the floor. OOPS! Too much info. [/quote] Sounds to me like out three point shooter is gonna have a lot of fun when all of those people stop Prudhomme.  Will all four of those (2 bigs and 2 quick guards) going to be new people?  I don't remember any of them doing much of that to him last season. [/quote]If HF hires who I think it will be, the new coach will see it ;) [/quote] Hmmm- In my own, unsophisticated way of thinking it seems to me that if Prudhomme puts the ball on the floor and one of the bigs "stops" him, will they be employing a very sophisticated rotation system that will enable each subsequently open man to be quickly covered?  If that is the case, then HJ( and probably every other team in the district) is in big trouble.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="987426" timestamp="1300901052"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=81856.msg987378#msg987378 date=1300896202] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=81856.msg987324#msg987324 date=1300890502] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=81856.msg987222#msg987222 date=1300853467] I knew HJ and some others had good youth programs, didnt know that HF did.  If they do have a good youth program and something goes amiss in those years(8th-9th), then that is a sad situation, especially for the kids.  Hopefully they can find a solution to transition from the younger ages to HS.    [/quote]Actually, HF dominates in the pre-9th grade [/quote] I think that may be due to the fact that UOS isnt as dominant at that time. [/quote]I know my older kid was coming home sore from weights and gym work. And trust me, the HF team needs more gym time than weight  time. [/quote] Very true for nearly every basketball team that wants to improve.