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[quote name="LAZEEK" post="960130" timestamp="1296685170"] Actually SN I took HF to beat OF on Monday night at the Hamburger Depot during the Weekly Preview Show!!! ;) ;) ;) [/quote] Talk is cheap (aka santa/golf)  I was offering cold,hard currency!!! [img][Hidden Content]] [img][Hidden Content]]

Nobody knows.  A month from now, maybe Nederland is playing 25% better than they are now.  If so, why wouldnt they have a chance?  If they are playing 25% worse, probably they might lose first or second round.  Personally, I am pulling for any local team to represent the golden triangle in Austin whether its mine or not.  Speaks well of basketball for this area if it happens.

[quote name="dogs1218" post="960134" timestamp="1296685237"] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=79538.msg960061#msg960061 date=1296681199] [quote author=Tiger05 link=topic=79538.msg959939#msg959939 date=1296674780] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=79538.msg959920#msg959920 date=1296673800] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=79538.msg959831#msg959831 date=1296669011] Alright guys..  ;D I was quiet and didnt say anything negative until after the game to see what the score would end being.. I dont want to cause too much trouble, but I remember being told by quite a few people on this site about the "history" and how it's "tradition" for Silsbee and HJ to split the district games.. I saw this coming from the start of the season and knew that HJ had NO chance of beating Silsbee.. The next things that I predicted is that HJ and SIlsbee will NOT play again this year ( In other words, HJ will lose before they reach Silsbee again in the playoffs ). On on a much more friendly note, Congrats to the Silsbee Tigers for TCB and setting themselves up to win another district title! And good luck to HJ with the rest of their season and getting ready for playoffs! [/quote] [size=12pt][b]HJ could have easily won either game[/b][/size].  Silsbee is certainly the better, deeper team, but HJ absolutely has the talent to beat this team.  HJ held a lead at the end of 3 in the first game, and a lead with 1 minute left in the 3rd in the 2nd game.  Silsbee's depth helped them pull away at the end of both games, but i'd challenge you to find anyone who saw either of these games who thinks there's NO way that HJ could beat Silsbee.   [/quote] This sounds too much of a Woulda Coulda Shoulda If HJ will beat Silsbee than it won’t be an easy task like you stated Can’t say that HJ could or will beat Silsbee because it has not happened this year Just Sayin’ [/quote]You obviously don't understand the phrase "Could easily happen".  All i was stating is that they were in the game, and if a few things break differently and they're 2-0 against Silsbee rather than 0-2.  Now, I've already said that Silsbee is the better team, but for this guy to say that HJ has NO chance to beat Silsbee is asinine, as HJ has aready held their own with them twice. [/quote] Hey buddy.. Whats asinine is you still thinking HJ can beat Silsbee THIS year :D But if you want me to get technical, which is what I think im going to have to do here, any team has a chance to beat any other team since there a two teams and only one team can win, so it is technically a 50-50 chance.. But the realistic chance is 0%.. Dont believe me? The results for THIS year show 0-2, which means 0% :o :o :o On another note, my negative karma seems to be taking a major hit ever since I openly discussed HJ on the public forum :D :D :D Maybe if i try hard enough, I might catch up to BADSANTA [/quote] If you catch him, perhaps the three of us can have a private get together and co-author a revision of " How To Win Friends and Influence People" and also offer our own Dale Carnegie Courses

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="960054" timestamp="1296680746"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=79642.msg960052#msg960052 date=1296680647] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=79642.msg959977#msg959977 date=1296676139] Not at all Dove.......called laying it on thick to entice Little Dove and Littler Dove to HJ!!!! ;D ;D ;D [/quote]WOW! Da Bosha and Lil Doves Show..hmmm? Lil Doves and Bosha Show :D [/quote] Don't forget Little Mitchell!!!! [/quote] And don't forget I offered a $100 bet yesterday on the Horns but had no takers, so I was on bandwagon earlier.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="960098" timestamp="1296683832"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=76916.msg960069#msg960069 date=1296681961] Dove- If I gave you these stats for a freshman, what would you think? 7.9 pts per game: 36% field goal percentage 25% from three point range 41% for two pointers 2.1 assists per game 2.8 rebounds per game 104 turnovers in 30 games [/quote]Hmmm? What would I think? His turnovers just about negate his assists and ppg [/quote]  I was only curious because they belong to Mr. Day

Dove- If I gave you these stats for a freshman, what would you think? 7.9 pts per game 36% field goal percentage 25% from three point range 41% for two pointers 2.1 assists per game 2.8 rebounds per game 104 turnovers in 30 games

[quote name="mfd814" post="960014" timestamp="1296678831"] If we get real honest here, these are all opinions.  I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that nobody from around here has been all around the state watching the best freshmen playing.  It is very unlikely that anyone on this board has any ability to DOCUMENT that Bosha is one of the best freshmen and EQUALLY unlikely that anyone can DOCUMENT than he isn't. Exactly... so there is the answer, who can compare.  Although Dove has seen many play in the summer as have I. As far as most valuable,  I agree to disagree,  i know of a few that are also as valuable as freshman to their teams. I agree he is the most valuable freshman playing varisty for HJ.  [/quote] If you have seen a lot of valuable freshmen, would you go so far as to say he might be the most valuable freshmen to his team in the district?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="959929" timestamp="1296674293"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=76916.msg959907#msg959907 date=1296673286] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76916.msg959895#msg959895 date=1296672770] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=76916.msg959797#msg959797 date=1296667606] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76916.msg958976#msg958976 date=1296600830] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=76916.msg958918#msg958918 date=1296593191] DOVE- out of those thirty, how many have u seen play several times?  Surely u aren't simply reading from a ratings sheet, are you? [/quote]The Houston kids? Been watching these kids for four years ;) The Dallas kids would be my OPINION,as I stated earlier ;) [/quote] Not cheating at all.  You have obviously seen them play and have a good idea of what they are capable of.  I am still, however, struggling with the thought that you have had the time to watch 30 or 40 2010-2011 freshman enough to rank them all.  If you have, I respectfully withdraw my comments.  On the other hand, to truly know where he ranks, wouldnt it take a rather large consensus to validate that? Let me see, you have been watching current freshmen for four years.  Am I correct in assuming that means you have watched them since they were in the sixth grade and there are 30 or more in that class that are better than Bosha as freshmen in the Houston area?   [/quote] You want names? ;) Lets see: Justin Jackson 9th grader- NC University has this kid under their radar. I can go on if you want ;) [/quote] Sounds like he is a really great player.  One down and 29 or 39 to go. [/quote]Mavis Saunders 9th grader 6'4, khadeem Lattin 6'8" or 6"9" Kelly Oubre 6'4" . I'm kind of cheating because these are my son's teammates and I'm just warming up ;) [/quote]

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="959865" timestamp="1296671497"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79482.msg959794#msg959794 date=1296667435] My guess is that he meant this:  At each of these two games, people were turned away at both gyms not to mention how many decided not to go because they knew how difficult it would be to get in.  He probably theorized that those who watched the girls could have easily been replaced with those who were either turned away or didnt go due to attendance conditions.  I suppose that, additionally, you would need to consider potential additional concession stand revenues, etc.  He probably  believes that more total people are willing to attend one of two, four hour venues as opposed to a single 6 hour venue.  He probably also believes that the referee costs are the same whether at one location or two. He could additionally believe that the TOTAL (both schools combined) cost of sending all of the teams from Silsbee to HJ is no greater than sending half of the teams from HJ to Silsbee and the other half from Silsbee to HJ over a home and home series. [/quote]That's a might big assumption of "what he may have meant".  ;) Referees cost less.... no additional mileage.  Add to that lights, janitorial staff, and all, and I think that he may have meant that its wonderful for the girls to get to play in front of people other than their parents. [/quote] While I know nothing of the costs of referees, I had concluded that the cost of each referee (per game) is the same regardless of how many referees are involved.( one ref doing four games would have the same total cost as four refs doing one game)  If the referees give volume discounts, then I obviously was wrong.  If they get mileage, its hard for me to believe that there is more than a slight difference between the travel costs to Silsbee as compared to Sour Lake.  Also, I have PMd the originator of the post(of which we speak) to see if I  have inadvertently misassumed) and will PM you his reply if I get one.  Its 9:38 pm and he just responded telling me I interpreted his post properly

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="959865" timestamp="1296671497"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79482.msg959794#msg959794 date=1296667435] My guess is that he meant this:  At each of these two games, people were turned away at both gyms not to mention how many decided not to go because they knew how difficult it would be to get in.  He probably theorized that those who watched the girls could have easily been replaced with those who were either turned away or didnt go due to attendance conditions.  I suppose that, additionally, you would need to consider potential additional concession stand revenues, etc.  He probably  believes that more total people are willing to attend one of two, four hour venues as opposed to a single 6 hour venue.  He probably also believes that the referee costs are the same whether at one location or two. He could additionally believe that the TOTAL (both schools combined) cost of sending all of the teams from Silsbee to HJ is no greater than sending half of the teams from HJ to Silsbee and the other half from Silsbee to HJ over a home and home series. [/quote]That's a might big assumption of "what he may have meant".  ;) Referees cost less.... no additional mileage.  Add to that lights, janitorial staff, and all, and I think that he may have meant that its wonderful for the girls to get to play in front of people other than their parents. [/quote] Not a big assumption at all- he mentioned nothing of the girls or the fact that they got to play in front of a packed house.  If you go back in the thread, you will find these words by him "The new district policy of playing both boys and girls at same venue is tolerable except for the HJ and Silsbee matchup.  Rather than help with fan attendance, it only hurts ... the schools are loosing valuable gate ($$$$$) revenue on the both the boys & girls side as both schools turn out their fans.  Also, fans loose out by being locked out ... absurd that the district's UIL committee would have concocted such a plan without considering all the consequences."

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="959895" timestamp="1296672770"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=76916.msg959797#msg959797 date=1296667606] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76916.msg958976#msg958976 date=1296600830] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=76916.msg958918#msg958918 date=1296593191] DOVE- out of those thirty, how many have u seen play several times?  Surely u aren't simply reading from a ratings sheet, are you? [/quote]The Houston kids? Been watching these kids for four years ;) The Dallas kids would be my OPINION,as I stated earlier ;) [/quote] Let me see, you have been watching current freshmen for four years.  Am I correct in assuming that means you have watched them since they were in the sixth grade and there are 30 or more in that class that are better than Bosha as freshmen in the Houston area?   [/quote] You want names? ;) Lets see: Justin Jackson 9th grader- NC University has this kid under their radar. I can go on if you want ;) [/quote] Sounds like he is a really great player.  One down and 29 or 39 to go.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="959895" timestamp="1296672770"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=76916.msg959797#msg959797 date=1296667606] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76916.msg958976#msg958976 date=1296600830] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=76916.msg958918#msg958918 date=1296593191] DOVE- out of those thirty, how many have u seen play several times?  Surely u aren't simply reading from a ratings sheet, are you? [/quote]The Houston kids? Been watching these kids for four years ;) The Dallas kids would be my OPINION,as I stated earlier ;) [/quote] Let me see, you have been watching current freshmen for four years.  Am I correct in assuming that means you have watched them since they were in the sixth grade and there are 30 or more in that class that are better than Bosha as freshmen in the Houston area?   [/quote] You want names? ;) [/quote] Doesnt take any special talent to list some names.  I am simply saying that unless someone has seen these "thirty or forty" freshmen all play this year in a high school game, I would think it is  very difficult to make accurate comparisons.  And then if one does, it still is simply the opinion of one.  I have no idea where he stands in comparison against other freshmen and wouldnt dare suggest that I do.  I have been around the game of golf quite a bit and have seen some of the best play but that certainly doesnt mean I have the capability of ranking the players.

[quote name="mfd814" post="959846" timestamp="1296670361"] Dove has been watching Se tx, Houston, Dallas and other talent for a few years. It is agreed that Bosha is a good player, with tons of potential. Has anyone else gone out and seen some of the other good freshman players to compare them?   Or is your opinion based on just watching Bosha's play alone? Just curious if people are out comparing. [/quote] If we get real honest here, these are all opinions.  I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that nobody from around here has been all around the state watching the best freshmen playing.  It is very unlikely that anyone on this board has any ability to DOCUMENT that Bosha is one of the best freshmen and EQUALLY unlikely that anyone can DOCUMENT than he isn't.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="958976" timestamp="1296600830"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=76916.msg958918#msg958918 date=1296593191] DOVE- out of those thirty, how many have u seen play several times?  Surely u aren't simply reading from a ratings sheet, are you? [/quote]The Houston kids? Been watching these kids for four years ;) The Dallas kids would be my OPINION,as I stated earlier ;) [/quote] Let me see, you have been watching current freshmen for four years.  Am I correct in assuming that means you have watched them since they were in the sixth grade and there are 30 or more in that class that are better than Bosha as freshmen in the Houston area? 

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="959757" timestamp="1296665872"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79482.msg959724#msg959724 date=1296664390] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=79482.msg959650#msg959650 date=1296659816] [quote author=tigerpride81 link=topic=79482.msg959085#msg959085 date=1296607690] The new district policy of playing both boys and girls at same venue is tolerable except for the HJ and Silsbee matchup.  Rather than help with fan attendance, it only hurts ... the schools are loosing valuable gate ($$$$$) revenue on the both the boys & girls side as both schools turn out their fans.  Also, fans loose out by being locked out ... absurd that the district's UIL committee would have concocted such a plan without considering all the consequences. [/quote]What does the boys and girls at the same venue have anything to do with the packed house? [/quote] Looks to me like his concern is possible lost revenue for the schools.  He didn't say anything about the packed house.  [/quote]Well, the packed house was implied because he referenced the "HJ - Silsbee" game. But where is the lost revenue?  The girls game can not be paying for themselves when you consider the extra busing, the elcectricity, the referees, and all the other costs just so that the girls parents can watch a game. No, I think the benefits far outweigh any non-existent lost revenue.  Our girls played in front of a packed house last night.  Good for them!!!!  8) [/quote] My guess is that he meant this:  At each of these two games, people were turned away at both gyms not to mention how many decided not to go because they knew how difficult it would be to get in.  He probably theorized that those who watched the girls could have easily been replaced with those who were either turned away or didnt go due to attendance conditions.  I suppose that, additionally, you would need to consider potential additional concession stand revenues, etc.  He probably  believes that more total people are willing to attend one of two, four hour venues as opposed to a single 6 hour venue.  He probably also believes that the referee costs are the same whether at one location or two. He could additionally believe that the TOTAL (both schools combined) cost of sending all of the teams from Silsbee to HJ is no greater than sending half of the teams from HJ to Silsbee and the other half from Silsbee to HJ over a home and home series.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="959650" timestamp="1296659816"] [quote author=tigerpride81 link=topic=79482.msg959085#msg959085 date=1296607690] The new district policy of playing both boys and girls at same venue is tolerable except for the HJ and Silsbee matchup.  Rather than help with fan attendance, it only hurts ... the schools are loosing valuable gate ($$$$$) revenue on the both the boys & girls side as both schools turn out their fans.  Also, fans loose out by being locked out ... absurd that the district's UIL committee would have concocted such a plan without considering all the consequences. [/quote]What does the boys and girls at the same venue have anything to do with the packed house? [/quote] Looks to me like his concern is possible lost revenue for the schools.  He didn't say anything about the packed house. 

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="959674" timestamp="1296660969"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=79538.msg959669#msg959669 date=1296660682] This is the first time since Silsbee joined HJ in 21-3A that one of the teams swept the district series. Silsbee has been 3A for 7 years now, but only in 21-3A the last 5 years. HJ and Silsbee had always split their district games until this year. If the Tigers can win out, it will be consecutive out right district titles for Silsbee, which is a first for this district. [/quote]I hate to say 'I told you so' but hey, what can I say?   ;D ;D 8) 8) [/quote] Could that possibly mean that you really don't hate to say it?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="959663" timestamp="1296660365"] [quote author=LT Dan link=topic=79670.msg959492#msg959492 date=1296622323] Don't congratulate Dove too much.  He does a good job of doing it on his own. [/quote]Flying high like a ha*cough*wk ;D [/quote] ;D ;D

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="959618" timestamp="1296657987"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=79681.msg959616#msg959616 date=1296657906] Even though they may not win district, I see this team going deep into the playoffs. I don't think Cleveland could hang with them. [/quote] You up to your bipolar tactics again.........just looking to start crap!!!!! ::) ::) ::) [/quote] Is Shawn Pruddhome the best player in the area?

[quote name="tigerpride81" post="959085" timestamp="1296607690"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=79482.msg959028#msg959028 date=1296605204] :o Doors locked at 5:50 means a 90% HJ crowd! Oh well......Go get em Tigers [/quote] The new district policy of playing both boys and girls at same venue is tolerable except for the HJ and Silsbee matchup.  Rather than help with fan attendance, it only hurts ... the schools are loosing valuable gate ($$$$$) revenue on the both the boys & girls side as both schools turn out their fans.  Also, fans loose out by being locked out ... absurd that the district's UIL committee would have concocted such a plan without considering all the consequences. [/quote] agree

[quote name="utfan06" post="959583" timestamp="1296653976"] Silsbee just has a better team this year [/quote] No doubt about that.

Tonight is the perfect situation for you.  The Longhorns win and the Hawks lose.  Many congrats to HF for their victory and many congrats to the Silsbee Tigers who proved, beyond a doubt, they are clearly the best team in the district.  Dove, if you have to work tomorrow, don't celebrate too much.  ;D

DOVE- out of those thirty, how many have u seen play several times?  Surely u aren't simply reading from a ratings sheet, are you?

I have enough faith and confidence in the dove that I will bet $100 on the longhorns tonite.  If someone wants to accept this bet, contact. Lazeek as I am away from computer for while.  The only stipulation I would like to add is if the bettor loses and fails to promptly settle his debt, he agrees to be banned from the board.  I await to hear from someone via lazeek.

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="958844" timestamp="1296589654"] I stand behind my confidence in the Hawks....I still say that we will win by 13 points....We will have an 8 point lead when the tigers will have to start fouling....and we will make 5 of 6 free throws to seal the deal, why is that so hard for some of you to understand.....I know, I know, how dare I think that the Hawks could win...Some of you kill me, I'm entitled to my opinion, and I just added take it to the bank because I feel confident in it. [/quote] Thanks for the clarification.  I had that sneaking feeling that some had misinterpreted your statement and tried to exploit you via their own misinterpretation.  I think it is fine that you believe that because I know of a guy who predicted Silsbee would mop the floor with HJ in the first game and nobody tried to "make book" on it.