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[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="958834" timestamp="1296589073"] [quote author=Bobcat05 link=topic=79588.msg958809#msg958809 date=1296588339] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=79588.msg958807#msg958807 date=1296588258] Sheez! Aren't they playing each other tonight? Any predictions or analysis. [b]Don't these two teams still have a chance for that 3rd spot?[/b][/quote] Mathematically - yes. [/quote]But after you guys lose tonite, its really over for you as far as a playoff berth for 2011. ;D [/quote] Hmmm- what was that about that HJ "arrogance"?

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="958814" timestamp="1296588509"] Silsbee just had a 6'10 kid enroll in school today from Dallas. He is a junior. [/quote] If he is playing tonight, I will bet that PoppaBear may want to reconsider his 13 point victory prediction.  Now that we know he is 6'10 has it been established that he is a basketball player?  Assuming he is, is he a good player?

[quote name="Bobcat05" post="958827" timestamp="1296588807"] Depends on who you ask, can't say his opinion is wrong because your OPINION is right.  ::) [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[quote name="team first" post="958805" timestamp="1296588178"] Seen him play, not best 10-15 in the state. Not strong enough, can't put it on floor good enough, does not defend 1on1 well enough. Has potential to be very good! Alot of good kids in the state..Top 50???????? Who knows, good for our area, yes! We've got to get out more. H.J. likes him. [/quote] Tough to evaluate a kid unless you have seen all the top  players multiple times and I don't know many who have the time and/or inclination to do so.  Also tough to judge a kids ability to defend one on one when his team uses a trapping zone defense.  Perhaps he "doesn't put in on the floor" good enough because the team objective does not call for that and hence, not much practice at doing so. If you are 6'4" at age 15, there is a good chance you haven't reached your peak in terms of co-ordination and mental toughness.  I would guess that would apply to a number of 15 year olds who are good enough to be starting for their respective varsities.  I will happily pay him this compliment- He has the intellect to realize that he should play within himself (and within the team objective) and not get caught up in the oft mistaken tendencies of some to define how well they play by the number no look passes and triple pump layups they execute or possibly try to execute.

[quote name="snooker" post="958801" timestamp="1296587949"] lot has to happen for a big upset ... you have to make the decision before the game ever starts. -- if png is primaraly a half court zone team then i dont see why i would come out for one possession. even if i were just playing not to lose in regulation. if png were a pressure D team then i would have cont. to play the same.  take all those percentages and throw em out. its about having a feel for your team as a coach. -- looks like the best team won from what i can tell(which is usually what happens anyway) [/quote] UDAMAN

Dont understand that.  I received congratulations for my 900 posts from two people who collectively have over 25,000.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="958790" timestamp="1296587613"] Bosha is good. Can you imagine how it would be if he transferred to HF for the title run about to happen. ;D [/quote] That is a legitimate concern.  When the title run begins, it will be difficult for many not to want to jump on the bandwagon.

[quote name="Temple Dad" post="958775" timestamp="1296586474"] It may just be me, but it seems to come across a lot better when someone other than his parent comes on here tooting his horn. I think it carries a lot more merit if you let someone else praise your kid. [/quote] The kid has been the recipient of a lot of praise by non relatives. In my mind, stating his free throw percentage is hardly an overt "tooting" of ones horn.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="958117" timestamp="1296505646"] I could see that, but when is stevenash gonna do an interview!!! [/quote] Only way I could do that would be to bring on Badsanta at the same time and talk about golf.

[quote name="no-look" post="958752" timestamp="1296584896"] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=79482.msg958713#msg958713 date=1296581991] HJ has a little something special for the tigers tonight....you will see.... [/quote]HJ will have a fiddle in the band tonight. [/quote] There  could also be GPS influence.

[quote name="True Blue" post="958745" timestamp="1296584247"] [quote author=MoFo link=topic=79482.msg958740#msg958740 date=1296584031] I dont like to gamble you can bet your a$$ on that........ [/quote] If he is going to give 12 points ,its realy not gambling. Kind of a sure thing, that the game will be closer than 12 points. [/quote] Sure- Just like a couple of years ago, oil got to $150 per barrel and it was a gut cinch that $200 was just around the corner.  Instead it went to $60.  So, I respectfully disagree -it is gambling and, it is not out of the realm of possibilities that either team could win by double digits even though I hope it goes down to the wire.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="958732" timestamp="1296583429"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79482.msg958730#msg958730 date=1296583190] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=79482.msg958715#msg958715 date=1296582061] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=79482.msg958713#msg958713 date=1296581991] HJ has a little something special for the tigers tonight....you will see.... [/quote] So, it's a bet? Tigers made some tweaks as well. ;) [/quote] From a betting standpoint, I might have an interest.  If somebody will simply make the line, I will be happy to bet $550 to win or lose $500. [/quote] Poppa made the line with his "take it to the bank 13 point HJ victory". ;) That's the bet I want to make. ;D [/quote] Ok- I didn't realize he was "making the line".  I just thought he was demonstrating his confidence in his Hawks.  Poppa, you need to get on here and clarify, please.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="958715" timestamp="1296582061"] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=79482.msg958713#msg958713 date=1296581991] HJ has a little something special for the tigers tonight....you will see.... [/quote] So, it's a bet? Tigers made some tweaks as well. ;) [/quote] From a betting standpoint, I might have an interest.  If somebody will simply make the line, I will be happy to bet $550 to win $500 or lose $550.

[quote name="football" post="958726" timestamp="1296582925"] I always would want the ball in my team's hands at the end of the game.  i don't know if that is right or wrong, just the way I would play it. [/quote] And may I assume you would want the ball in your hands by gaining possession without fouling the opposition and by forcing them to take a low percentage shot?

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="958652" timestamp="1296579252"] [quote author=cbosha link=topic=76916.msg940283#msg940283 date=1293818711] He averages between 16-18 pts. Lately he has been averaging about 3 steals per game. He makes about 90% of his free throws, and assists, let's just say I can't keep up with them! [/quote] 90%??? Come on!! Find his actual percentage and then inform us. Don't throw up a number like 90%. NBA players don't hit 90%. [/quote] Check Ray Allen and my namesake.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="958706" timestamp="1296581816"] I want in [/quote] You havent even scheduled the golf bet yet.

[quote name="Versey Ledbetter" post="958624" timestamp="1296578058"] [quote author=speechless link=topic=79456.msg958548#msg958548 date=1296573117] Nederland play what style for 32 minutes?  Hold the ball?  Why?  Nederland is the better team and if the 3 is falling it is not a game because a packed in zone offers lots of open 3 point opportunities and Nederland was not able to convert which is why they pulled it out to make png go man so they could use their superior athleticism to create an easier scoring opportunity. It is impossible to put a basketball game into black and white statistics and very easy to say after the fact that you disagree with a decision however, if png gets the defensive rebound goes to OT and wins then png coach is a genius, right?  would you be publicly disagreeing then?  the png coach who knows his players a heck of a lot better than you do knew that if he came out and extended his defense that his teams chances of stopping nederland significantly decreased so it was really an easy decision [/quote] I still don't understand why anyone thinks PN-G had a better chance of beating Nederland in OT (if the game goes to OT, which it didn't) than they did playing out the last 90 seconds of regulation time. [/quote] Could it be that the PNG coach thought that getting to overtime was preferable to doing something that would give Ned the opportunity to keep it from overtime?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="958632" timestamp="1296578454"] I'm not making any predictions on this game. [/quote] Dove- No need to put what you think will happen, just record what you WANT to happen ;D

[quote name="WILL I AM" post="958589" timestamp="1296575717"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=79554.msg958397#msg958397 date=1296533813] If Ozen losses any more players that my prediction of the 4th place teams significantly increases!!!!! ;) ;) [/quote] Ozen being in 4th place is just as stupid as me saying hj will go to state this year.....Im pretty sure neither will happen ;) ;) ;) [/quote] Does that mean they are unlikely to mop the floor with any teams left on their schedule?

[quote name="NHS83LU87" post="958552" timestamp="1296573377"] Can't believe anyone is still arguing about this game.......There are important games tonight. [/quote] What are the odds that this thread will still be going in a week? ::)

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958541" timestamp="1296572339"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg958534#msg958534 date=1296571915] What are the odds that the coach of a team is better equipped to make a decision on how to deal with a last minute game situation as opposed to an observer who does not coach for a living? [/quote]You know, there is only one way to know that answer.  If PNG is in the exact same situation, I would be willing to bet that he wouldn't make the same decision. The odds are that a coach is better equipped, that's why he's in the position.  But the odds are that I disagree with his decision.  It ain't no big deal, its just not the decision that I would have made and I've stated why as clearly as possible.  [/quote] Can't disagree with anything you have said here.  Well stated and I will stop nit picking.

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What are the odds that the coach of a team is better equipped to make a decision on how to deal with a last minute game situation as opposed to an observer who does not coach for a living?

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958529" timestamp="1296571480"] [quote author=speechless link=topic=79456.msg958520#msg958520 date=1296571074] and the png coach knew the odds of nederland scoring if he came out and extended his defense were triple the odds of them scoring if he sat back and waited [/quote]and you have a wide open game again.  A lot can happen in 90 seconds. But, recalling all the queries about where I got my percentages from, where do you get triple the odds?  Knowing these odds, it would seem that Nederland should play this style for 32 minutes against PNG.  ;) [/quote] It was me asking you about from whence your percentages came and not Speechless.  Since you did not provide an answer, why would you request same from someone else?(even though I happen to know that Speechless has a much larger statistical sample to draw from than most)  Personally, I also do not think that the odds of winning in overtime are distributed evenly.  If Silsbee goes into overtime with West Orange or Hamshire Fannett, (or for Vegas line makers sake if the Lakers go into overtime against the Wizards) I dont think the odds will be listed at 50-50.

[quote name="speechless" post="958520" timestamp="1296571074"] and the png coach knew the odds of nederland scoring if he came out and extended his defense were triple the odds of them scoring if he sat back and waited [/quote] ;D ;D ;D