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[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958507" timestamp="1296570119"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg958500#msg958500 date=1296569660] Maybe you should look at the post just above yours.  Also, please explain how, if PNG had gotten the rebound of the missed shot that they had ZERO percent chance to win game.  If your percentages are correct, that means that time expired as the missed shot was launched.  Was that the case? [/quote]If PNG had gotten the missed shot, they would have been faced with making an 86' shot with 1 or 2 seconds to go.  OK, maybe get a time out and run a 1 second play to heave the ball up court and win.   I'll give you a 5% chance of that, and this is being generous. PNG now has a 30% chance of winning.  Woo-hoo!!!!!  ;) And you may want to point out the "post just above mine".  There are numerous posts on this thread. [/quote] The "post just above yours" is exactly, unequivocally what I meant.  It suggests the post made just before yours (sequentially speaking).  I don't have the capability of handicapping these occurrences (and I honestly dont think you have sufficient research/data to do so either) please tell me what the chances were that the PNG player could have rebounded the ball and been fouled during the rebound or just after the rebound.  What were the chances that the Ned player might have traveled when he attempted the game ending shot.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958494" timestamp="1296569584"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg958466#msg958466 date=1296567878] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=79456.msg958462#msg958462 date=1296567146] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg958438#msg958438 date=1296543143] I  will leave you to your own conclusions and same for me.  I just dont believe such things are as easily qunantified as you do.  And I would be willing to bet that Persohn and Prudhomme coming and going were not the result of any "odds considerations" by the coaching staff.  My point regarding the blackjack analogy was, in that situation,  both choices have low odds for a favorable return and you can't "stack" the odds to be in your favor. [/quote]No, simply that Coach Sutherland was going with the odds that Persohn and Prudhomme were less likely to get an offensive foul and more likely to get a defensive foul.  Hence, they were in on offense and out on defense.   If there was a 50-50 chance of any team winning in overtime (which no one has refuted) than there should be a relatively close 50-50 chance of any time winning with 90 seconds to go (that's  probably about 3 or 4 possessions each team).  I like those odds, even if its 60-40 since Nederland has the ball, WAY BETTER than [u][b]the 0% chance of PNG winning in regulation because they allowed Nederland to stall[/b][/u]. [/quote] I wasnt there and have not seen the film  If I understand you correctly, you are saying now that PNG had no chance of winning.  A little earlier, I had understood you to say that they had a 25% of winning.  Sometimes the odds are not good either way.  If the Celtics are beating the Lakers by one with 10 seconds left in the game and the Lakers miss a shot which is rebounded by Ray Allen, what do the Lakers do to stack the  odds in their favor or even make them 50-50? [/quote]Read the underlined point one more time.  PNG left themselves with [b][u]0% chance to win in regulation[/u][/b].  They had to force an overtime in order to even have a chance of winning. The Celtic / Lakers scenario is entirely different.  The Lakers [u][b]are forced to only one option.  Foul[/b][/u].  The PNG coach was not relegated to a whisper and a prayer.  He simply went with the path that limited his chances to 25% overall. [/quote] Maybe you should look at the post just above yours.  Also, please explain how, if PNG had gotten the rebound of the missed shot that they had ZERO percent chance to win game.  If your percentages are correct, that means that time expired as the missed shot was launched.  Was that the case?

[quote name="True Blue" post="958476" timestamp="1296568699"] I heard some of the silsbee players saying that they were upset with the way they played the first time. They felt that they let HJ stay in the game to long and that they should have pull away in the first half. Dont know if that will happen but I look for them to come out early and try to put HJ away . If HJ can stand that first big push they may have a chance to win this one. But if Silsbee gets a 10+ point lead this one will be over. I just dont see Silsbee giving up a lead with the team speed they have. [/quote] Did they "let" HJ stay in the game or did HJ possibly have something to do with that circumstance?  I "heard" some of the HJ players say that if they can stay out of foul trouble, they like their chances.

[quote name="hj1" post="958420" timestamp="1296536669"] I have confidence. [/quote] Kind of sounds like a "mop the floor" prediction to me.

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[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958462" timestamp="1296567146"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg958438#msg958438 date=1296543143] I  will leave you to your own conclusions and same for me.  I just dont believe such things are as easily qunantified as you do.  And I would be willing to bet that Persohn and Prudhomme coming and going were not the result of any "odds considerations" by the coaching staff.  My point regarding the blackjack analogy was, in that situation,  both choices have low odds for a favorable return and you can't "stack" the odds to be in your favor. [/quote]No, simply that Coach Sutherland was going with the odds that Persohn and Prudhomme were less likely to get an offensive foul and more likely to get a defensive foul.  Hence, they were in on offense and out on defense.  If there was a 50-50 chance of any team winning in overtime (which no one has refuted) than there should be a relatively close 50-50 chance of any time winning with 90 seconds to go (that's  probably about 3 or 4 possessions each team).  I like those odds, even if its 60-40 since Nederland has the ball, WAY BETTER than the 0% chance of PNG winning in regulation because they allowed Nederland to stall. [/quote] I wasnt there and have not seen the film  If I understand you correctly, you are saying now that PNG had no chance of winning.  A little earlier, I had understood you to say that they had a 25% of winning.  Sometimes the odds are not good either way.  If the Celtics are beating the Lakers by one with 10 seconds left in the game and the Lakers miss a shot which is rebounded by Ray Allen, what do the Lakers do to stack the  odds in their favor or even make them 50-50?

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958288" timestamp="1296524466"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg958220#msg958220 date=1296515064] If you are at the blackjack table and you draw a 16 and the dealer has a face card showing, and you have a bunch of money on the table, tell me what you are going to do and what the odds are that you will win.   The odds are that you will lose if you hold and the odds are also that you will lose if you take a card so you cant necessarily stack the odds in your favor. Therefore, after you go bust, it is quite easy for me to say you should have stayed with the two original cards.  Converselly, if you stand pat and the dealer winds up with 17,18,19,20, or 21, I can just as easily say that you made a dumb play by not taking a card. [/quote]Is there a point in there somewhere?   Let me ask you, do you really think that coaches ignore the odds when making calls during a game? For example, you may have noticed that Persohn and Prudhomme kept leaving the game against HF whenever there was a dead ball and HJ was going to be on defense.  But they went back into the game if there was a dead ball and HJ was going to be on offense. Did percentages have anything to do with this decision.  I mean, both guys are very good on defense. [/quote]  I  will leave you to your own conclusions and same for me.  I just dont believe such things are as easily quantified as you do.  And I would be willing to bet that Persohn and Prudhomme coming and going were not the result of any "odds considerations" by the coaching staff.  My point regarding the blackjack analogy was, in that situation,  both choices have low odds for a favorable return and you can't "stack" the odds to be in your favor.

[quote name="no-look" post="958244" timestamp="1296518809"] [quote author=Coach Byrd link=topic=79404.msg958235#msg958235 date=1296516784] There is no place where profanity should be used. If a person never uses profanity then it will not "slip out". If a coach were to use profanity in the classroom, then he would be fired. The field or court is an extension of the classroom. [/quote]I dont use profanity but I have mashed my finger before and things have "slipped out"....or said something in a moment of anger....thats what I was refering to. [/quote] Would I be correct in assuming that L.H. never, never, never said anything except "come on boys, try harder:  I know you can do it"?

[quote name="no-look" post="958202" timestamp="1296513409"] Just a hint, If you ever get stopped by a peace officer, whatever you do dont tell them you know nash......it would be like throwing a a rock at a hornets nest!............ [/quote] What an insult.  I beg to differ.  It would be more like throwing gasoline on a fire ;D

[quote name="samsung" post="958256" timestamp="1296520310"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg958047#msg958047 date=1296501322] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=79456.msg958022#msg958022 date=1296499152] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg957930#msg957930 date=1296490067] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=79456.msg957903#msg957903 date=1296487045] [quote author=Razor link=topic=79456.msg957900#msg957900 date=1296486674] I am sure in a rivalry like this, there are instances where both sides behave badly...I am not saying this is proper behavior but it is a bit "high and mighty" for PNG fans to come on here and complain about Nederland's kids when I can assure you that I have first hand seen some pretty sad behavior from PNG students at Nederland games as well...unfortunate by product of an intense rivalry...my point is, just don't come on here saying "Nederland's students did this and Nederland's students did that" when the same type of behavior happens on the other side as well. As for the guy who says playing it the way he did, Abel only gave PNG a 25% chance of winning?  I assume by this you felt that PNG had NO chance of winning in OT?  PNG played a great game and their kids should be commended...hard way to lose for sure, especially coming off of another buzzer beater with Central...Coach Abel is a great guy and in that situation you have to trust that a coach knows his team better than the average fan...it is so easy to judge after the fact...if PNG had won, everyone would be on here second guessing Coach English (inappropriately, I might add) and praising Abel as a hero...at the end of the day, it comes down to execution by the players and some times just the good old fashioned breaks. Again, as a Bulldog fan, I tip my hat to PNG for a well played game and a great effort although I was certainly happy with the outcome! [/quote]+ 2 for  you!  Excellent post. [/quote] Strongly agree [/quote]Just as strongly disagree.  ;) The numbers are against you for letting this happen. [/quote] Read the post by speechless.  [b]Trust me when I tell you he has more insight about those situations than any 5 people in this post collectively.[/b]  But, at the same time, I respect your right to disagree and have no reason to believe that my opinion is any more valid than yours.  As for the game of numbers ( which I happen to know plenty about) I would say that a percentage or percentile assignment might have different meanings..  If you bat 250, you are ok and if you bat over 300 you are pretty good.  If you shoot 30% in basketball, you arent that good.  If you don't hit the greens about 70% of the time in regulation [playing golf, you have little if any chance to win .  So equating percentages with "good"  fluctuates widely depending on what the circumstances are. [/quote] Then there must be a lot of not so smart people on this board cause giving Big Ned the last shot was not very smart. [/quote] Then if Phil Jackson decides to use Kobe as a last second decoy to set up a shot for Derek Fisher and Fisher misses, is that move "not so smart"?

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958151" timestamp="1296509471"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg958047#msg958047 date=1296501322] Read the post by speechless.  Trust me when I tell you he has more insight about those situations than any 5 people in this post collectively.  But, at the same time, I respect your right to disagree and have no reason to believe that my opinion is any more valid than yours.  As for the game of numbers ( which I happen to know plenty about) I would say that a percentage or percentile assignment might have different meanings..  If you bat 250, you are ok and if you bat over 300 you are pretty good.  If you shoot 30% in basketball, you arent that good.  If you don't hit the greens about 70% of the time in regulation [playing golf, you have little if any chance to win .  So equating percentages with "good"  fluctuates widely depending on what the circumstances are. [/quote]I'll read speechless' post again, and yes this is an opinion forum, so all is cool. But regarding percentages, its pure and simple.  When faced with two options, winning or losing, I like to stack the deck in my favor.  I don't feel that going into a scenario with a 25% chance of winning is a good idea.  Batting .250 may be average, but winning 25% of your games is poor. [/quote]  If you are at the blackjack table and you draw a 16 and the dealer has a face card showing, and you have a bunch of money on the table, tell me what you are going to do and what the odds are that you will win.  The odds are that you will lose if you hold and the odds are also that you will lose if you take a card so you cant necessarily stack the odds in your favor. Therefore, after you go bust, it is quite easy for me to say you should have stayed with the two original cards.  Converselly, if you stand pat and the dealer winds up with 17,18,19,20, or 21, I can just as easily say that you made a dumb play by not taking a card.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="958217" timestamp="1296514646"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg958215#msg958215 date=1296514523] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=79456.msg958151#msg958151 date=1296509471] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg958047#msg958047 date=1296501322] Read the post by speechless.  Trust me when I tell you he has more insight about those situations than any 5 people in this post collectively.  But, at the same time, I respect your right to disagree and have no reason to believe that my opinion is any more valid than yours.  As for the game of numbers ( which I happen to know plenty about) I would say that a percentage or percentile assignment might have different meanings..  If you bat 250, you are ok and if you bat over 300 you are pretty good.  If you shoot 30% in basketball, you arent that good.  If you don't hit the greens about 70% of the time in regulation [playing golf, you have little if any chance to win .  So equating percentages with "good"  fluctuates widely depending on what the circumstances are. [/quote]I'll read speechless' post again, and yes this is an opinion forum, so all is cool. But regarding percentages, its pure and simple.  When faced with two options, winning or losing, I like to stack the deck in my favor.  I don't feel that going into a scenario with a 25% chance of winning is a good idea.  Batting .250 may be average, but winning 25% of your games is poor. [/quote]Winning 25% of your games has no relevance to the last minute of a single game. [/quote]Or, every "DOG" has it's day [/quote]How about every "Dove"?

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958153" timestamp="1296509651"] [quote author=speechless link=topic=79456.msg957944#msg957944 date=1296491601] right call by png coach when you are not the better team you take your chances on defending one shot as opposed to having to defend for multiple possessions he did the right thing forced the lowest percentage shot they could force and just didnt block out on the back side [/quote]This would have been a good move if PNG had the lead, but they didn't. They boxed themselves into a hole where they had a low chance of winning.  And how can you say they weren't the better team at that moment?  Didn't Nederland's big man foul out?  Its not "who has the best team", it's "who has the best 5 players on the court at that moment". [/quote]i I guess you could say they boxed themselves in the hole but it looks like to me that they put themselves in position to possibly win the game during the prior 31 minutes.  Additionally, all of this exchange between you and me may be good proof why you and I are NOT coaches.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958151" timestamp="1296509471"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg958047#msg958047 date=1296501322] Read the post by speechless.  Trust me when I tell you he has more insight about those situations than any 5 people in this post collectively.  But, at the same time, I respect your right to disagree and have no reason to believe that my opinion is any more valid than yours.  As for the game of numbers ( which I happen to know plenty about) I would say that a percentage or percentile assignment might have different meanings..  If you bat 250, you are ok and if you bat over 300 you are pretty good.  If you shoot 30% in basketball, you arent that good.  If you don't hit the greens about 70% of the time in regulation [playing golf, you have little if any chance to win .  So equating percentages with "good"  fluctuates widely depending on what the circumstances are. [/quote]I'll read speechless' post again, and yes this is an opinion forum, so all is cool. But regarding percentages, its pure and simple.  When faced with two options, winning or losing, I like to stack the deck in my favor.  I don't feel that going into a scenario with a 25% chance of winning is a good idea.  Batting .250 may be average, but winning 25% of your games is poor. [/quote]Winning 25% of your games has no relevance to the last minute of a single game.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="958192" timestamp="1296512731"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=79482.msg958119#msg958119 date=1296505686] They have a JV now. Have had one since the HJ game. [/quote] NO GIRLS JV TOMORROW NIGHT!!!!! [/quote] So they already abandoned a team they just recently created?

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958158" timestamp="1296509978"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79482.msg958049#msg958049 date=1296501402] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=79482.msg958020#msg958020 date=1296499018] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79482.msg957942#msg957942 date=1296491202] Wouldn't your wish actually be for a 4 round match up, thus implying HJ wins the second round thereby forcing the district playoff and then a region finals matchup? [/quote]Well, my biggest wish is that I win that Power-ball lottery.  Of course, it would help if I actually bought a ticket, eh?  ;) But actually, if they had a play-off, then yes Round 4.  Of course there's always the chance that Silsbee loses to HF after we beat them and there is no play-off. [/quote] Sure am glad to know you are dealing in likelihoods.  Since you handicapped the PNG-Nederland last shot circumstance, please go ahead and do the same for the scenario you just painted. [/quote]well....... what are the odds of pigs flying?  I've looked everywhere and can't find it.  ;) [/quote]They are the same as Silsbee losing to HJ and HF in the second half of district.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="958177" timestamp="1296511537"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=79532.msg958165#msg958165 date=1296510720] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=79532.msg957938#msg957938 date=1296490901] LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Except I have no hair.......and I wish my job was a ESPN Sports Anchor!!! [/quote] You're right 'ZEEK.  Here is a much more representative photo [img][Hidden Content]] [/quote] An uncanny resemblance!  [/quote] Zeek, I sense/perceive envy on the part of those who comment on your appearance

[quote name="Razor" post="958066" timestamp="1296502707"] I wasn't saying Abel was right or wrong...truthfully, if it was me making the call, I would have played it differently and that could have worked out or maybe that wouldn't have worked out either...I just feel that it is way too easy to criticize after the fact when the result is known but I also understand that it is everyone's right to disagree...I just know that I don't make the right call at my job 100% of the time and neither does anyone else on this board...we work with the information we have (coaches have more than fans) and make what we think are the best choices at the time based on that info. Again, great game by both teams...sure was fun to watch, but now it is time to move on to the next one! [/quote] ;D

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958020" timestamp="1296499018"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79482.msg957942#msg957942 date=1296491202] Wouldn't your wish actually be for a 4 round match up, thus implying HJ wins the second round thereby forcing the district playoff and then a region finals matchup? [/quote]Well, my biggest wish is that I win that Power-ball lottery.  Of course, it would help if I actually bought a ticket, eh?  ;) But actually, if they had a play-off, then yes Round 4.  Of course there's always the chance that Silsbee loses to HF after we beat them and there is no play-off. [/quote] Sure am glad to know you are dealing in likelihoods.  Since you handicapped the PNG-Nederland last shot circumstance, please go ahead and do the same for the scenario you just painted.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="958022" timestamp="1296499152"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79456.msg957930#msg957930 date=1296490067] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=79456.msg957903#msg957903 date=1296487045] [quote author=Razor link=topic=79456.msg957900#msg957900 date=1296486674] I am sure in a rivalry like this, there are instances where both sides behave badly...I am not saying this is proper behavior but it is a bit "high and mighty" for PNG fans to come on here and complain about Nederland's kids when I can assure you that I have first hand seen some pretty sad behavior from PNG students at Nederland games as well...unfortunate by product of an intense rivalry...my point is, just don't come on here saying "Nederland's students did this and Nederland's students did that" when the same type of behavior happens on the other side as well. As for the guy who says playing it the way he did, Abel only gave PNG a 25% chance of winning?  I assume by this you felt that PNG had NO chance of winning in OT?  PNG played a great game and their kids should be commended...hard way to lose for sure, especially coming off of another buzzer beater with Central...Coach Abel is a great guy and in that situation you have to trust that a coach knows his team better than the average fan...it is so easy to judge after the fact...if PNG had won, everyone would be on here second guessing Coach English (inappropriately, I might add) and praising Abel as a hero...at the end of the day, it comes down to execution by the players and some times just the good old fashioned breaks. Again, as a Bulldog fan, I tip my hat to PNG for a well played game and a great effort although I was certainly happy with the outcome! [/quote]+ 2 for  you!  Excellent post. [/quote] Strongly agree [/quote]Just as strongly disagree.  ;) The numbers are against you for letting this happen. [/quote] Read the post by speechless.  Trust me when I tell you he has more insight about those situations than any 5 people in this post collectively.  But, at the same time, I respect your right to disagree and have no reason to believe that my opinion is any more valid than yours.  As for the game of numbers ( which I happen to know plenty about) I would say that a percentage or percentile assignment might have different meanings..  If you bat 250, you are ok and if you bat over 300 you are pretty good.  If you shoot 30% in basketball, you arent that good.  If you don't hit the greens about 70% of the time in regulation [playing golf, you have little if any chance to win .  So equating percentages with "good"  fluctuates widely depending on what the circumstances are.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="957966" timestamp="1296493629"] The Silsbee Tigers will head down to Sour Lake to take on the Hardin-Jefferson Hawks for Hardin County Havoc Round 2!!!!  The Tigers (24-2, 5-0) defeated HJ in the first round of District 21-3A 64-56 in Silsbee and is currently on a 13 game win streak.  The Hawks (26-5, 4-1) who are coming off of a win over HF 83-51 on Friday night seem to be hitting on all cylinders and are looking to grab a share of the District 21-3A lead.  Sure to be a great game and a great atmosphere.   If you are not able to get to the gym by 5:30 then your best bet is to listen to LIVE action right here at SETXSPORTS.COM!!!!!  The voice of the Silsbee Tigers AAW (Mike Sanchez) will join the voice of the Hardin-Jefferson Hawks Lazeek (Rob Lietzke) for the action. Click the link below to listen to LIVE action with LAZEEK and AAW!!!! [Hidden Content] [/quote] Since the Dove will be there in two weeks, it's only fair if SEXTSLAM gets a few minutes on your broadcast tomorrow night.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="957552" timestamp="1296368023"] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=79482.msg957533#msg957533 date=1296363269] [quote author=bmrm link=topic=79482.msg957502#msg957502 date=1296358287] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=79482.msg957268#msg957268 date=1296323350] Round 2.....Fight! Who you got and why? Both teams are at full strength for this game. [/quote] Silsbee may be at full strength but HJ is far from - Hawks missing Anderson & Carr.  [/quote] As far as this season is concerned the only player who has really played is Carr. Anderson would have been a big factor for HJ this year but unfortunately he was injured. I hate seeing a high school player miss his senior season to an injury. The Tiger's will be without one key sub as well in Busby.  He Is the only big post the Tigers have on the bench and has been playing well lately.  This one will be another great game.  My Tigers better come to play like they can or it could be a long night. [/quote]Yes, Will has been sorely missed on the court this year.  He's a good kid that showed a lot of heart on the football field.  He has a nice 15 foot jump shot that would have been very effective in this year's offense. But regarding your post, my biggest wish is that this is simply round 2 of a 3 round match-up!  In other words, "[i]See you in Hunstville, Bay-Bee![/i]" [/quote] Wouldn't your wish actually be for a 4 round match up, thus implying HJ wins the second round thereby forcing the district playoff and then a region finals matchup?

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="957903" timestamp="1296487045"] [quote author=Razor link=topic=79456.msg957900#msg957900 date=1296486674] I am sure in a rivalry like this, there are instances where both sides behave badly...I am not saying this is proper behavior but it is a bit "high and mighty" for PNG fans to come on here and complain about Nederland's kids when I can assure you that I have first hand seen some pretty sad behavior from PNG students at Nederland games as well...unfortunate by product of an intense rivalry...my point is, just don't come on here saying "Nederland's students did this and Nederland's students did that" when the same type of behavior happens on the other side as well. As for the guy who says playing it the way he did, Abel only gave PNG a 25% chance of winning?  I assume by this you felt that PNG had NO chance of winning in OT?  PNG played a great game and their kids should be commended...hard way to lose for sure, especially coming off of another buzzer beater with Central...Coach Abel is a great guy and in that situation you have to trust that a coach knows his team better than the average fan...it is so easy to judge after the fact...if PNG had won, everyone would be on here second guessing Coach English (inappropriately, I might add) and praising Abel as a hero...at the end of the day, it comes down to execution by the players and some times just the good old fashioned breaks. Again, as a Bulldog fan, I tip my hat to PNG for a well played game and a great effort although I was certainly happy with the outcome! [/quote]+ 2 for  you!  Excellent post. [/quote] Strongly agree

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[quote name="tigersvoice" post="957897" timestamp="1296486335"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=79482.msg957621#msg957621 date=1296404421] Tigervoice I think you are more bipolar than I am sir! My comment was my opinion. I know you announce the games and they pay you on a hourly rate so you have to be bias. I state opinions only. I hope Silsbee wins but they looked very weak in 3 out of their last 5 games. I do know one fact. You are a CRAZY fool! [/quote] Let me correct your mistaken comments.  1. There is NO PAY involved with what I do at the ball games.  2.  To stay in proper tense the word to use is biasED; not bias.  3.  I do not doubt that you know only ONE fact but me being a "Crazy fool" is not the one fact that you know.  That's just hearsay; nobody knows that for certain. 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] I salute you, sir, for making note of the correct use of the word bias/biased. ;D