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[quote name="dogs1218" post="955146" timestamp="1296066842"] If Cleveland and HJ play THIS year in the playoffs, Cleveland will win.. Come on steve, ZEEK, or 86hawk!! Let me hear some more history!  :D [/quote] I am dying to respond but there are a couple of problems.  Anything I say, including this, will be deemed by the "enlightened" as classless.  Someone on this board recently established that the past could not be mentioned, so I can't say anything in that respect.  Therefore, I am unable to say that last year, HJ was given ABSOLUTELY no chance in the game against Cleveland (by many of the same enlightened)  I am also unable to say that the more athletic Navasota was a cinch to beat HJ after HJ beat them once, after they beat them twice, and after they beat them a third time.  I am curious about one thing.  It was not that long ago that you INSISTED that you didn't want to hear any HJ history- but now you post on here that you WANT to hear history.  Very interesting.  I don't know why we are even talking about Cleveland because the "smart" money has already declared HJ can't get that far.  HJ doesn't have a very good team and, if they are fortunate enough to make the playoffs (because they have won ONLY against poor teams and lost to all the good ones) they will undoubtedly lose the first round to a more athletic team.

I would prefer that no HJ supporter make any blowout/mop the floor predictions for HJ.  A couple of other teams /individuals have found out that these predictions have a way of biting the predicted winner in the a$$.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="955130" timestamp="1296065527"] [quote author=HSBALL03 link=topic=79215.msg954544#msg954544 date=1296003291] I think that game in Kountze has slipped many minds.  Cleveland flat-out layed an egg last year against HJ.  These seniors lost in OT by 3 to the Jarvis Benard led Hawks two years ago..and they were all sophomores.  [/quote]I'm not sure if you can chalk up that win to Jarvis.  If i recall, two traveling calls and several missed free throws by Jarvis were the only reason Cleveland took it into overtime.  I mean, we had them by 7 with a minute to go. [/quote] Wouldnt it be better to credit the team for the win or loss or whatever rather than singling out an individual..  Often times, when an individual has impressive statistics, much of it can be credited to action taken by some other teammate(s).  When Gustafson went 4 for 4 from three point range the other night at West Orange, a good portion of the credit for that goes to the defense being overly concerned with the three point shooting ability of Bosha and Sutherland.  So, in spite of not making a single three themselves, I believe Bosha and Sutherland were partially responsible for the success Gustafson had with the long shots.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="955099" timestamp="1296062636"] I will have a seat for you right next to the broadcast table if you would like!!! ;) ;) [/quote] Why not feature him as a sort of expert guest broadcaster - let him give his game impressions a few times during the contest

[quote name="DTH" post="954997" timestamp="1296054747"] Lifting weights is an integral part for any sports team to be able to compete year in and year out. Kevin Durants, and other "freaks" of nature come seldom in a lifetime.  Also, a select few players compared to how many playing in the NBA?  I would truly like more statistics on this one.  It is not how much you lift either; rather conditioning/strengthening of the muscle.  It would be nice if in my coaching career I would get an opportunity to coach someone of this magnitude. It just doesn't happen very often. Secondly, scheduling is the main issue of getting things done when you have both boys and girls sports using facilities as well as other sports that are gearing up for their seasons.  Some of the things I have read make sense and some are just plain ludicrous. Lifting weights or participating in an offseason workout on game days are against UIL rules.  We also have an 8 hour rule that has to be followed.  All of these do it after practice statements or in the morning makes me wonder if some of you are following the UIL guidelines?? Head coaches control their sports and AD's control the sports program at that school or district. AD's are to develop the athlete in every sport.  A conditioning program that includes weights, cardio, and skills must be implemented across the board for this to occur.  I have been a head coach for several years and know that in some years this has been the only way we could have competed at all.  These conditioning programs also fosters mental toughness something that has diminished drastically from our high school athletes in the last 5-10 years. I am sure we are making our athletes lift weights to PUMP our ego.  Go figure. Nice try for some of you our there trying to shift the blame. [/quote] Have no interest in where blame is "shifted".  Just tell me why the coaches in basketball, baseball, and other sports are less qualified to prescribe/supervise the lifting program for kids who are not involved in the football program.  Could they possibly know that some alternative weight program would be more beneficial to a participant in another sport?The "other" method creates the impression that football is the only sport that matters.  When you say it was "the only way we could have competed at all" are you referring to football or some other sport?  If you believe Kevin Durant is the exception, please show me the well developed speed/strength of Larry Bird, Kevin McHale and Bill Walton.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="954988" timestamp="1296054041"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79215.msg954551#msg954551 date=1296004196] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=79215.msg954422#msg954422 date=1295994525] Sorry guys, as it stands right now HJ WILL NOT beat Cleveland this year. And all of my predictions are close. Sorry! :'( [/quote] Dove- Because of your predictive capabilities, I am going to go ahead and ask you that "if" Hj makes the playoffs and "if" they win enough playoff games to ultimately face Cleveland, should they forfeit and avoid the embarrassment?  What do you think will happen "if" the Longhorns somehow get to the playoffs and ultimately encounter Cleveland? [/quote]I'm a practical person. HJ should play Cleveland for the experience ;D HF ain't going to playoffs this year. [/quote]  I just hope we reach the point where playing Cleveland becomes a concern.  I think the only way to insure that this happens is to have the HJ player lift twice daily on game days.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="955009" timestamp="1296056070"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=79163.msg954966#msg954966 date=1296051821] Yes I did stir the pot! I love to do that. Prudhomme couldn't hold DC Stallworth. I know that. DC is a top 50 player in the state. Prudhomme will be the same next season. [/quote] How shocking!!!! ::) ::) ::) [/quote] Why not stir the pot some more with the golf contest with sleepy and Lazeek?

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="955016" timestamp="1296056539"] As far as the Nederland players, I DO know for a fact that at least 1 of the starters is from Port Arthur, Tx.  Didn't attend PAM, but was part of PA-ISD his whole life up untill high school... [/quote] I think, to some extent, that happens at a majority of schools in the area

[quote name="east texas bb" post="954932" timestamp="1296048653"] Prayers sent. [/quote] St. Judes will give him best possible care.  Have heard that success rate in dealing with Leukemia for youngsters is improving considerably.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="954907" timestamp="1296045487"] Bmrm that's not talking against them. Its just my opinion. I would like to see them win it all or at least get to the title game, but they had some serious off nights. A lack of focus can hurt this late in the season. [/quote] Celtics lost to Washington Wizards Monday night.

[quote name="SHSTIGER" post="954840" timestamp="1296018238"] Be careful malcolm, or you'll be shook off as a hater if your perfectly logical prediction is incorrect. [/quote] If you look at some of the other "predicted large margin victories" earlier this season, making 40 point victory  projections for any game in this district may not be particularly logical.

How did it turn out?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="954421" timestamp="1295994283"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=79171.msg954341#msg954341 date=1295987174] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79171.msg954308#msg954308 date=1295984418] Is the issue whether or not to lift weights or is the issue when and how much to lift weights and at whose direction?  I am not a coach but rather a basketball enthusiast so my bias will probably show before this post is done.  My perception of a lot of schools is that the one size fits all approach may not always be the answer.   Does the basketball player have the same weight lifting needs and time dedication to weight lifting as the football player?  How about the track guy or the golfer or the tennis player?  If you have a limited amount of time each week to pursue excellence in your respective sport, does strength play as integral a part in the golf swing as it does on the football field?  Does one sport need more dedication to strength and less to skill than another?  I would think there is a good possibility that it does.  Why is the basketball coach or baseball coach less worthy to supervise his players weight lifting sessions than the football coach?  Is it a given that the football coach ALWAYS knows/understands more about conditioning than other coaches that work with him?  Kevin Durant was soundly criticized at the NBA combine for his inability to bench press a certain amount of weight.  LeBron and Kobe have bodies that make them look like Greek Gods.  The statistics suggest that Mr. Durant is contributing as much as Kobe or Lebron to his teams efforts despite his alleged "weakness". Oddly enough, he leads the NBA in scoring. Furthermore, I think it might be a serious mistake to fully define athleticism as muscles/speed only.  Much of it, in my opinion has to do with hand-eye coordination and development of same.  Its difficult for me to believe that lifting can help that as much as repetition of the selected athletic movement. [/quote]Brilliant piece of [/quote]I hadn't finished this sentence :D [/quote]  I understood that.  I also understood that, whatever the ending of the sentence was (good or bad) it certainlly would pale in comparison to your ability to predict the future.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="954422" timestamp="1295994525"] Sorry guys, as it stands right now HJ WILL NOT beat Cleveland this year. And all of my predictions are close. Sorry! :'( [/quote] Dove- Because of your predictive capabilities, I am going to go ahead and ask you that "if" Hj makes the playoffs and "if" they win enough playoff games to ultimately face Cleveland, should they forfeit and avoid the embarrassment?  What do you think will happen "if" the Longhorns somehow get to the playoffs and ultimately encounter Cleveland?

[quote name="no-look" post="954521" timestamp="1296001194"] Center @ Central Diboll @ Hudson Jasper @ Kirbyville I say Jasper wins but the other games is a toss up. [/quote] Not if the half courters are falling and a certain peace officer organization is involved.

[quote name="bullets13" post="954375" timestamp="1295990182"] [quote author=Malcolm X link=topic=79163.msg954329#msg954329 date=1295986098] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=79163.msg954309#msg954309 date=1295984451] He's no hawk fan, but one of the biggest hawk haters on here. he's just trying to stir the pot. [/quote]Child Please!! [/quote] Oh goody, i got child pleased! [/quote] Think about how that sounds ;D

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="954425" timestamp="1295994643"] [quote author=Malcolm X link=topic=79207.msg954232#msg954232 date=1295978333] On a serious note Coach Davis will be perfect. Dude is a genious when it comes to X's and O's... [/quote]But does he know how to sub and put players in positions to win the game? ;D [/quote] Absolutely not

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="954341" timestamp="1295987174"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79171.msg954308#msg954308 date=1295984418] Is the issue whether or not to lift weights or is the issue when and how much to lift weights and at whose direction?  I am not a coach but rather a basketball enthusiast so my bias will probably show before this post is done.  My perception of a lot of schools is that the one size fits all approach may not always be the answer.   Does the basketball player have the same weight lifting needs and time dedication to weight lifting as the football player?  How about the track guy or the golfer or the tennis player?  If you have a limited amount of time each week to pursue excellence in your respective sport, does strength play as integral a part in the golf swing as it does on the football field?  Does one sport need more dedication to strength and less to skill than another?  I would think there is a good possibility that it does.  Why is the basketball coach or baseball coach less worthy to supervise his players weight lifting sessions than the football coach?  Is it a given that the football coach ALWAYS knows/understands more about conditioning than other coaches that work with him?  Kevin Durant was soundly criticized at the NBA combine for his inability to bench press a certain amount of weight.  LeBron and Kobe have bodies that make them look like Greek Gods.  The statistics suggest that Mr. Durant is contributing as much as Kobe or Lebron to his teams efforts despite his alleged "weakness". Oddly enough, he leads the NBA in scoring. Furthermore, I think it might be a serious mistake to fully define athleticism as muscles/speed only.  Much of it, in my opinion has to do with hand-eye coordination and development of same.  Its difficult for me to believe that lifting can help that as much as repetition of the selected athletic movement. [/quote]Brilliant piece of [/quote] Well, it may not be omniscient, but it is, quite possibly, semi-logical

[quote name="HSBALL03" post="954348" timestamp="1295987510"] So according to the alignments Cleveland should play HJ in the quarters again for the third straight year.  Could the third time be the charm for these seniors from Cleveland? [/quote] Perhaps Navasota could shed some light on your question.

[quote name="sleepy" post="954304" timestamp="1295983918"] [quote author=Two-Dogs... link=topic=79207.msg954239#msg954239 date=1295978765] Does success at the HS level necessarily translate to success at the college level? [/quote] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote] I guess you could ask Rick Pitino and John Calipari if success at the college level translated to same in NBA.

Is the issue whether or not to lift weights or is the issue when and how much to lift weights and at whose direction?  I am not a coach but rather a basketball enthusiast so my bias will probably show before this post is done.  My perception of a lot of schools is that the one size fits all approach may not always be the answer.   Does the basketball player have the same weight lifting needs and time dedication to weight lifting as the football player?  How about the track guy or the golfer or the tennis player?  If you have a limited amount of time each week to pursue excellence in your respective sport, does strength play as integral a part in the golf swing as it does on the football field?  Does one sport need more dedication to strength and less to skill than another?  I would think there is a good possibility that it does.  Why is the basketball coach or baseball coach less worthy to supervise his players weight lifting sessions than the football coach?  Is it a given that the football coach ALWAYS knows/understands more about conditioning than other coaches that work with him?  Kevin Durant was soundly criticized at the NBA combine for his inability to bench press a certain amount of weight.  LeBron and Kobe have bodies that make them look like Greek Gods.  The statistics suggest that Mr. Durant is contributing as much as Kobe or Lebron to his teams efforts despite his alleged "weakness". Oddly enough, he leads the NBA in scoring. Furthermore, I think it might be a serious mistake to fully define athleticism as muscles/speed only.  Much of it, in my opinion has to do with hand-eye coordination and development of same.  Its difficult for me to believe that lifting can help that as much as repetition of the selected athletic movement.

[quote name="Malcolm X" post="954242" timestamp="1295978845"] Based on what I witnessed in Silsbee a few weeks ago, then yes he is the best player in Setx. Considering he out played arguably the best player "D.C" in his gym. As of this year S.P is 1 up on D.C. in head to head matchups. [/quote] Ok Badsanta - you have a taker - here we go

[quote name="Malcolm X" post="954243" timestamp="1295978959"] [quote author=ForeverADog link=topic=79207.msg954237#msg954237 date=1295978573] Coach English. [/quote]Will know for sure next year when all of Mermorial players are gone  ;) [/quote] Have heard many times that the best is yet to come for Nederland.  Understand the 7-8-9 teams are where they have their highest expectations.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="954168" timestamp="1295970758"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=79180.msg954163#msg954163 date=1295969705] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=79180.msg954153#msg954153 date=1295968424] Looks like the parity is beginning to unfold a little as we move forward towards my predictions 2 years ago. [/quote] Your omniscience is being validated, sir. [/quote] Yeah I sometimes feel it truly is a divine gift ;D [/quote] No doubt whatsoever.  I may be going to Lauberge later this week and would certainly appreciate any advice you could provide.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="954153" timestamp="1295968424"] Looks like the parity is beginning to unfold a little as we move forward towards my predictions 2 years ago. [/quote] Your omniscience is being validated, sir.