stevenash

Yes, but doesnt that point guard need to be able to "generate his own shot"?

Leave it to Dove to try and manipulate the outcome from off the court

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="950363" timestamp="1295370016"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78845.msg949270#msg949270 date=1295197433] Hj is at the bottom of the district standings.!!!!  Looks like your predictions of "the beginning  of the end" are in their infancy.  Congratulations on your prescience. [/quote]It's hard to be accepted when " change" brings people out of their comfort zones ;D [/quote] Especially when its "change we can believe in".

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="950369" timestamp="1295370373"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=78789.msg950365#msg950365 date=1295370099] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=78789.msg950360#msg950360 date=1295369822] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=78789.msg950313#msg950313 date=1295363865] They would be better suited with that awesome freshman class at Silsbee. ;) FYI, last Friday: HJ       9th     36 Silsbee 9th     58 ;) ;) ;) [/quote]Actually, HF's current 2014/2015 class  would kill your 2014/2015 class next year. ;) [/quote] But, we were talking about the 2013/14 class (current freshman), not the current 8th grade class. ;) [/quote]But we will be talking about 2015 in a few more months. Time keeps marching.  Just a reminder whats coming in the very near future. ;) [/quote] Didn't some great philosopher say "The future is now"?

[quote name="True Blue" post="950307" timestamp="1295363141"] This game could be a trap for Silsbee, after playing such a big game with HJ, they need to be carefull not to let down. I know that WO-S will come in looking to knock them off. And playing with nothing to loss they could be dangerous [/quote]\ When you are the top team in the area, every game is a potential trap

[quote name="whsalum" post="950187" timestamp="1295319888"] Hudson has one kid that is the real deal.He is gonna get his but the key is not to let him get everybody else involved.I don't believe the pope could beat Hudson at home. [/quote] Excellent and accurate observation

[quote name="mammagotjuice" post="950094" timestamp="1295317308"] [quote author=Wildcatter link=topic=78789.msg949251#msg949251 date=1295193100] I dont think an up tempo game is your strength.  You dont have the guards for it.  I agree with bball, your best opportunity is the size factor.  The fresh has to learn to get his bigs involved as opposed to looking like aau.  He is good player for a fresh but the game changers are down low and he needs them if he is going to effective at all this year.  Also, the exchange kid needs to learn to use the size and take advantage of the mismatch he creates as opposed to standing outside.  [/quote]Wildcatter.... Now..the PG hits the open man..whether on the wing or down low. HF does not have consistent enough shooters to just come down run plays and shoot. We need to fast break with the big men throwing the outlet pass to the guard and then get down the court for at least 5-10 easy baskets. The new PG is fast enough believe me to get the ball down. There are athletic enough guards and forwards if placed in all together to run some fast breaks. The PG sets the tempo of the game. He is the floor general- the coach on the floor. In the last 3 games he has played..I have observed that he asks the coach ALOT about what to run....maybe b/c he is new. But hopefully with time he will be confident enough to make some judgement calls and adjust w/o asking the coach every single posession what to run....I am not a coach...but my husband is a former player and coach and we observe and debate a lot of basketball....and this is JUST MY OPINION...everybody's got one. [/quote]  Just want to add my two cents worth.  I know mamma and know that she knows her basketball.

[quote name="no-look" post="950118" timestamp="1295317974"] Last three out of four years these teams have split. Each winning their home games. It will be hard to win at Hudson but we will see. The key is to contain the Davis kid....keep him to twenty or under. [/quote] Its my recollection that teams that win in Hudson are few and far between.

[quote name="no-look" post="949898" timestamp="1295304712"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949891#msg949891 date=1295303800] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=78734.msg949865#msg949865 date=1295301097] I think Nash just got off the Mayflower, I keep waiting for some "thus thee smite me forthcoming"  "I hail from the province of Hardin and Jefferson counties".  " Take the sword ye neanderthal and I will thrust my words at you".  Such ellegance in his speech. [/quote] No, not particularly elegant but I will say this: The ETBB doth protest too much,(regarding my words) me thinks.  ;D [/quote]A lot of words come to mind when I think of Nash......but elegant is not one of them.. ;D [/quote] I "resemble" that remark!!!  What words do come to your mind?  Objective?  Broad minded? anti-Gestapo?  or would the words "magniloquent and grandiloquent grumpy old rednecked bas-ard" be more what you were thinking of?

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="949894" timestamp="1295304405"] So just a curious question and to backdooring you here........... Can HJ beat Nederland???? [/quote] NO- would lose by "30"

[quote name="east texas bb" post="949865" timestamp="1295301097"] I think Nash just got off the Mayflower, I keep waiting for some "thus thee smite me forthcoming"  "I hail from the province of Hardin and Jefferson counties".  " Take the sword ye neanderthal and I will thrust my words at you".  Such ellegance in his speech. [/quote] No, not particularly elegant but I will say this: The ETBB doth protest too much,(regarding my words) me thinks.  ;D

[quote name="dogs1218" post="949886" timestamp="1295302850"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949882#msg949882 date=1295302408] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949866#msg949866 date=1295301260] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949857#msg949857 date=1295300458] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949845#msg949845 date=1295299536] [quote author=ST4life link=topic=78734.msg949844#msg949844 date=1295299162] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949835#msg949835 date=1295298047] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=78734.msg949830#msg949830 date=1295297413] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949823#msg949823 date=1295296507] I knew I would take a lot of heat for bashing HJ this year on this public forum, but I stay firm in my judgement until proven otherwise. They still lost the game, just like the other games they lost, all to quality teams.. I may not like the hype about them every year, but I respect HJ. They have been the top team in area for years and have the history to prove it. I just want people to wake up and realize that HJ is not a top notch team THIS year and will not reach the normal expectations. As far as the WOS pick over HJ, I think the athleticism of WOS will end up beating HJ  ;) [/quote] HJ has never been a "top notch" team........even when they won state on 07 they were ranked higher than 5-7th in the state until after they won it all.  Just what to you consider "top notch"???  I will give you a definition of "top notch".........Dallas Madison!!!!  Mark my words that they will be there in the end.  They play anyone and everyone on their schedule and so far their record proves it as they are about .500 on the season. Dogs1218 I have no problem with you voicing your opinion and sticking to it..........and I don't have a problem with you always going against HJ.  Not that you care if I have a problem!!!! :D :D :D I have even gone on record as saying that HJ is not as deep and not as quick as Silsbee, but I always think that the Hawks can and will beat the Tigers.  Just like you think that the Bulldogs can and will beat Ozen, Central, etc.  Nothing wrong with that!!!! I have always pulled for Nederland and I will continue to do so.  Good luck to the Dogs on a district title and in the playoffs......I will be pulling for Coach English and the Dogs......the question is will you be pulling for the Hawks in district and the playoffs?? ;D ;D ;D [/quote] And I congratulate you Zeek for having sufficient restraint and/or good sense not to say that Ozen would "mop the floor" with Nederland. [/quote] We get it with the whole "mop the floor" thing Nash  ::) ::) Here I’ll make an announcement for you: Hey everybody Silsbee did not "mop the floor" with HJ they only beat them ok!!! So stop hurting his feelings by saying that they will or did!!! [/quote] :D :D I have learned something about ol Nashe likes to repeat thing way over the limit to where he annoys other people not even associatted with the issue!  ;D He will cool off later.. the loss must still hurt him a little bit   :D [/quote]  Yes, I am really really mad/disturbed about the HJ loss and the pain is truly unbearable.(despite the fact that I made no comment about the game other than saying the absence of the Silsbee coach had no material impact on the final result)  That remark is nearly as "insightful" as the mop the floor comment. [/quote] Well what else could it be? Here look! I have a great idea for you to try! Move on! I said Silsbee would win and they did! You "said" (I assume you wanted them to win) HJ would win and the didnt! The shoulda, woulda coulda's can be said about every game but the fact is that the result is either a "W" or an "L" Stop trying your hardest to make other people look inferior to your brilliance and give credit where it is due! Jesus man! Its just basketball!!  :D ;D [/quote] NEVER, EVER predicted HJ would win.  I know better than that (you ought to try it)  I simply heard some remarks I thought were uncalled for and with poor judgement/malice  and I responded in defense of your belittlement of the HJ fans and the team.  Yes, I fully understood the context in which the original comments were made.  The only prediction I made was a 30 point victory for Silsbee which was an obvious absurd remark inteneded to make fun of those who really believed that.  I have a great idea for you, also.  Admit you had no earthly idea that HJ could compete with Silsbee.  Somehow, I doubt that will happen. [/quote] HJ can compete with Silsbee on any given night ;) Im not that stupid to truely believe that they couldnt compete... Now, about the winning part, I clearly have made it known that HJ wont beat Silsbee [/quote]  I have no issues with that and never did.

[quote name="dogs1218" post="949866" timestamp="1295301260"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949857#msg949857 date=1295300458] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949845#msg949845 date=1295299536] [quote author=ST4life link=topic=78734.msg949844#msg949844 date=1295299162] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949835#msg949835 date=1295298047] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=78734.msg949830#msg949830 date=1295297413] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949823#msg949823 date=1295296507] I knew I would take a lot of heat for bashing HJ this year on this public forum, but I stay firm in my judgement until proven otherwise. They still lost the game, just like the other games they lost, all to quality teams.. I may not like the hype about them every year, but I respect HJ. They have been the top team in area for years and have the history to prove it. I just want people to wake up and realize that HJ is not a top notch team THIS year and will not reach the normal expectations. As far as the WOS pick over HJ, I think the athleticism of WOS will end up beating HJ  ;) [/quote] HJ has never been a "top notch" team........even when they won state on 07 they were ranked higher than 5-7th in the state until after they won it all.   Just what to you consider "top notch"???  I will give you a definition of "top notch".........Dallas Madison!!!!  Mark my words that they will be there in the end.  They play anyone and everyone on their schedule and so far their record proves it as they are about .500 on the season. Dogs1218 I have no problem with you voicing your opinion and sticking to it..........and I don't have a problem with you always going against HJ.  Not that you care if I have a problem!!!! :D :D :D I have even gone on record as saying that HJ is not as deep and not as quick as Silsbee, but I always think that the Hawks can and will beat the Tigers.  Just like you think that the Bulldogs can and will beat Ozen, Central, etc.  Nothing wrong with that!!!! I have always pulled for Nederland and I will continue to do so.  Good luck to the Dogs on a district title and in the playoffs......I will be pulling for Coach English and the Dogs......the question is will you be pulling for the Hawks in district and the playoffs?? ;D ;D ;D [/quote] And I congratulate you Zeek for having sufficient restraint and/or good sense not to say that Ozen would "mop the floor" with Nederland. [/quote] We get it with the whole "mop the floor" thing Nash  ::) ::) Here I’ll make an announcement for you: Hey everybody Silsbee did not "mop the floor" with HJ they only beat them ok!!! So stop hurting his feelings by saying that they will or did!!! [/quote] :D :D I have learned something about ol Nashe likes to repeat thing way over the limit to where he annoys other people not even associatted with the issue!  ;D He will cool off later.. the loss must still hurt him a little bit   :D [/quote]  Yes, I am really really mad/disturbed about the HJ loss and the pain is truly unbearable.(despite the fact that I made no comment about the game other than saying the absence of the Silsbee coach had no material impact on the final result)  That remark is nearly as "insightful" as the mop the floor comment. [/quote] Well what else could it be? Here look! I have a great idea for you to try! Move on! I said Silsbee would win and they did! You "said" (I assume you wanted them to win) HJ would win and the didnt! The shoulda, woulda coulda's can be said about every game but the fact is that the result is either a "W" or an "L" Stop trying your hardest to make other people look inferior to your brilliance and give credit where it is due! Jesus man! Its just basketball!!  :D ;D [/quote] NEVER, EVER predicted HJ would win.  I know better than that (you ought to try it)  I simply heard some remarks I thought were uncalled for and with poor judgement/malice  and I responded in defense of your belittlement of the HJ fans and the team.  Yes, I fully understood the context in which the original comments were made.  The only prediction I made was a 30 point victory for Silsbee which was an obvious absurd remark inteneded to make fun of those who really believed that.  I have a great idea for you, also.  Admit you had no earthly idea that HJ could compete with Silsbee.  Somehow, I doubt that will happen.

[quote name="ST4life" post="949844" timestamp="1295299162"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949835#msg949835 date=1295298047] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=78734.msg949830#msg949830 date=1295297413] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949823#msg949823 date=1295296507] I knew I would take a lot of heat for bashing HJ this year on this public forum, but I stay firm in my judgement until proven otherwise. They still lost the game, just like the other games they lost, all to quality teams.. I may not like the hype about them every year, but I respect HJ. They have been the top team in area for years and have the history to prove it. I just want people to wake up and realize that HJ is not a top notch team THIS year and will not reach the normal expectations. As far as the WOS pick over HJ, I think the athleticism of WOS will end up beating HJ  ;) [/quote] HJ has never been a "top notch" team........even when they won state on 07 they were ranked higher than 5-7th in the state until after they won it all.   Just what to you consider "top notch"???  I will give you a definition of "top notch".........Dallas Madison!!!!  Mark my words that they will be there in the end.  They play anyone and everyone on their schedule and so far their record proves it as they are about .500 on the season. Dogs1218 I have no problem with you voicing your opinion and sticking to it..........and I don't have a problem with you always going against HJ.  Not that you care if I have a problem!!!! :D :D :D I have even gone on record as saying that HJ is not as deep and not as quick as Silsbee, but I always think that the Hawks can and will beat the Tigers.  Just like you think that the Bulldogs can and will beat Ozen, Central, etc.  Nothing wrong with that!!!! I have always pulled for Nederland and I will continue to do so.  Good luck to the Dogs on a district title and in the playoffs......I will be pulling for Coach English and the Dogs......the question is will you be pulling for the Hawks in district and the playoffs?? ;D ;D ;D [/quote] And I congratulate you Zeek for having sufficient restraint and/or good sense not to say that Ozen would "mop the floor" with Nederland. [/quote] We get it with the whole "mop the floor" thing Nash  ::) ::) Here I’ll make an announcement for you: Hey everybody Silsbee did not "mop the floor" with HJ they only beat them ok!!! So stop hurting his feelings by saying that they will or did!!! [/quote]Why give those instructions to "everybody"?  There was only one soothsayer who made that brilliant evaluation.

[quote name="dogs1218" post="949845" timestamp="1295299536"] [quote author=ST4life link=topic=78734.msg949844#msg949844 date=1295299162] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949835#msg949835 date=1295298047] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=78734.msg949830#msg949830 date=1295297413] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949823#msg949823 date=1295296507] I knew I would take a lot of heat for bashing HJ this year on this public forum, but I stay firm in my judgement until proven otherwise. They still lost the game, just like the other games they lost, all to quality teams.. I may not like the hype about them every year, but I respect HJ. They have been the top team in area for years and have the history to prove it. I just want people to wake up and realize that HJ is not a top notch team THIS year and will not reach the normal expectations. As far as the WOS pick over HJ, I think the athleticism of WOS will end up beating HJ  ;) [/quote] HJ has never been a "top notch" team........even when they won state on 07 they were ranked higher than 5-7th in the state until after they won it all.  Just what to you consider "top notch"???  I will give you a definition of "top notch".........Dallas Madison!!!!  Mark my words that they will be there in the end.  They play anyone and everyone on their schedule and so far their record proves it as they are about .500 on the season. Dogs1218 I have no problem with you voicing your opinion and sticking to it..........and I don't have a problem with you always going against HJ.  Not that you care if I have a problem!!!! :D :D :D I have even gone on record as saying that HJ is not as deep and not as quick as Silsbee, but I always think that the Hawks can and will beat the Tigers.  Just like you think that the Bulldogs can and will beat Ozen, Central, etc.  Nothing wrong with that!!!! I have always pulled for Nederland and I will continue to do so.  Good luck to the Dogs on a district title and in the playoffs......I will be pulling for Coach English and the Dogs......the question is will you be pulling for the Hawks in district and the playoffs?? ;D ;D ;D [/quote] And I congratulate you Zeek for having sufficient restraint and/or good sense not to say that Ozen would "mop the floor" with Nederland. [/quote] We get it with the whole "mop the floor" thing Nash  ::) ::) Here I’ll make an announcement for you: Hey everybody Silsbee did not "mop the floor" with HJ they only beat them ok!!! So stop hurting his feelings by saying that they will or did!!! [/quote] :D :D I have learned something about ol Nashe likes to repeat thing way over the limit to where he annoys other people not even associatted with the issue!  ;D He will cool off later.. the loss must still hurt him a little bit   :D [/quote]  Yes, I am really really mad/disturbed about the HJ loss and the pain is truly unbearable.(despite the fact that I made no comment about the game other than saying the absence of the Silsbee coach had no material impact on the final result)  That remark is nearly as "insightful" as the mop the floor comment.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="949830" timestamp="1295297413"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949823#msg949823 date=1295296507] I knew I would take a lot of heat for bashing HJ this year on this public forum, but I stay firm in my judgement until proven otherwise. They still lost the game, just like the other games they lost, all to quality teams.. I may not like the hype about them every year, but I respect HJ. They have been the top team in area for years and have the history to prove it. I just want people to wake up and realize that HJ is not a top notch team THIS year and will not reach the normal expectations. As far as the WOS pick over HJ, I think the athleticism of WOS will end up beating HJ  ;) [/quote] HJ has never been a "top notch" team........even when they won state on 07 they were ranked higher than 5-7th in the state until after they won it all.  Just what to you consider "top notch"???  I will give you a definition of "top notch".........Dallas Madison!!!!  Mark my words that they will be there in the end.  They play anyone and everyone on their schedule and so far their record proves it as they are about .500 on the season. Dogs1218 I have no problem with you voicing your opinion and sticking to it..........and I don't have a problem with you always going against HJ.  Not that you care if I have a problem!!!! :D :D :D I have even gone on record as saying that HJ is not as deep and not as quick as Silsbee, but I always think that the Hawks can and will beat the Tigers.  Just like you think that the Bulldogs can and will beat Ozen, Central, etc.  Nothing wrong with that!!!! I have always pulled for Nederland and I will continue to do so.  Good luck to the Dogs on a district title and in the playoffs......I will be pulling for Coach English and the Dogs......the question is will you be pulling for the Hawks in district and the playoffs?? ;D ;D ;D [/quote] And I congratulate you Zeek for having sufficient restraint and/or good sense not to say that Ozen would "mop the floor" with Nederland.

[quote name="dogs1218" post="949646" timestamp="1295245445"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949640#msg949640 date=1295244210] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949637#msg949637 date=1295242602] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=78734.msg949633#msg949633 date=1295241953] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949617#msg949617 date=1295239277] Ok.. I'm going to try and make this very simple for you. Silsbee is better than HJ this year. Talent is better and you cant run from that truth. We can all spit out numbers of how bad a team is going to lose, but in the end, all that really natters is that the team you picked was right or wrong. I cant judge HJ from just one game, but I knew that team wasnt going to beat Silsbee, and will probably lose before they make it back to play Silsbee in playoffs. If you are judging your teams success of your record, then you sound like people from Vidor. Overall records can say whatever, but its the the true record of how you did versus QUALITY teams that lets you know just how good your team actually is. Now we can argue over this HJ thing all day, but that isnt going to change what the record says.. Silsbee got the "W"... & HJ got the "L".... How bout HJ focus up for their games next week, and lets move on  ;) [/quote]OK, I'm going to try and make this very simple for you. Everybody who watched that game Friday night came away realizing one (or two) things.  Silsbee might be better than HJ, but HJ has the ability to beat Silsbee this year.  OK, maybe a few die hard fans may think its impossible, but the important thing is, the HJ players know it.  They suspected it at first, but they probably had doubts.  Now there is no doubt.... they can beat Silsbee.  It may take one or two "if only's" for HJ to pull off the win, but you and I both know that "if only's" happen all the time!  [/quote] :D Aint that the truth! One of those "If Only's" is going to to happen next time they play because it going to be played @ HJ  ;) Ask people from outside Sour Lake about that Home-cookin lol [/quote]  He is already hedgin his bets by saying if HJ should win, it would only be because the refs cheated.  And he belittles some fan for thinking highly of their own team?  Have asked him twice how such an inferior team had a twelve point lead in the other teams home gym.  Never got a response.  Pretty interesting.  Here is the other FACT>  He OVERPLAYED his evaluation of HJ and cant escape that via the results from the first game.  Game indicated there was little difference between the two teams but he will NEVER admit his miscallculation(Silsbee will mop the floor with HJ) which is documented by the game.  H [/quote] I know you would like to think of yourself as the genius of this message board, and the ultimate guru of basketball, but your not.. HJ lost, and Silsbee won.. Want me to answer your question? Hj came out fired up because its a Huge Basketball rivalry.. Want me to give you an example too? PNG was beating Nederland 9-3 after the first quarter, and continued to play hard throughout the game because they wanted to beat us really bad, but in the end, the better team pulled away and got the win.. Sounds like the same kind of game we are talking about right now huh? Get over it.. Congrats to Silsbee on the win, and good luck to HJ moving foward [/quote]  That cant be.  Hj was "declared" as unworthy of Silsbee by a "guru of this message board" and that Silsbee would "mop the floor" with HJ.  HJ lead for the first three quarters(byas much as 12 pts) on the opponents floor (sorry- not the same case for Ned-PNG)NOthing has changed.  You simply overestimated your opinion of how  incompetent  HJ would be this year and you are wrong, not by my standards but by most reasonable people who dont have an axe to grind with some of the HJ faithful. HJ proved that there is not that much difference between the two teams other than Silsbee has superior depth.  That is acknowledged by both HJ and Silsbee supporters and strongly contradicts the "wisdomic" "mop the floor" prediction which, like it or not, was blatantly inaccurate.

[quote name="ST413" post="949638" timestamp="1295243037"] I have said it elsewhere the top 5 or 6 players on these teams are pretty equal,  the difference is the difference is the Tigers have more depth.  The Hawks have just as good a chance at winning as do the Tigers when those top players stay in the game and stay fairly fresh. [/quote] You must be wrong.  Dogs1218 has already "declared" that HJ cant compare to Silsbee and thats the way IT IS.  Having a 12 point lead on the opponents floor and losing by eight is actually a case where Silsbee mopped the floor with HJ and HJ lost substantially.

[quote name="dogs1218" post="949637" timestamp="1295242602"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=78734.msg949633#msg949633 date=1295241953] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949617#msg949617 date=1295239277] Ok.. I'm going to try and make this very simple for you. Silsbee is better than HJ this year. Talent is better and you cant run from that truth. We can all spit out numbers of how bad a team is going to lose, but in the end, all that really natters is that the team you picked was right or wrong. I cant judge HJ from just one game, but I knew that team wasnt going to beat Silsbee, and will probably lose before they make it back to play Silsbee in playoffs. If you are judging your teams success of your record, then you sound like people from Vidor. Overall records can say whatever, but its the the true record of how you did versus QUALITY teams that lets you know just how good your team actually is. Now we can argue over this HJ thing all day, but that isnt going to change what the record says.. Silsbee got the "W"... & HJ got the "L".... How bout HJ focus up for their games next week, and lets move on  ;) [/quote]OK, I'm going to try and make this very simple for you. Everybody who watched that game Friday night came away realizing one (or two) things.  Silsbee might be better than HJ, but HJ has the ability to beat Silsbee this year.  OK, maybe a few die hard fans may think its impossible, but the important thing is, the HJ players know it.  They suspected it at first, but they probably had doubts.  Now there is no doubt.... they can beat Silsbee.  It may take one or two "if only's" for HJ to pull off the win, but you and I both know that "if only's" happen all the time!  [/quote] :D Aint that the truth! One of those "If Only's" is going to to happen next time they play because it going to be played @ HJ  ;) Ask people from outside Sour Lake about that Home-cookin lol [/quote]  He is already hedgin his bets by saying if HJ should win, it would only be because the refs cheated.  And he belittles some fan for thinking highly of their own team?  Have asked him twice how such an inferior team had a twelve point lead in the other teams home gym.  Never got a response.  Pretty interesting.  Here is the other FACT>  He OVERPLAYED his evaluation of HJ and cant escape that via the results from the first game.  Game indicated there was little difference between the two teams but he will NEVER admit his miscallculation(Silsbee will mop the floor with HJ) which is documented by the game.

[quote name="Tiger05" post="949562" timestamp="1295229741"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949394#msg949394 date=1295213784] [quote author=Tiger05 link=topic=78734.msg949385#msg949385 date=1295212871] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949372#msg949372 date=1295211545] Rest assured his real problem is with the die hard HJ fans and his only retort can be to somehow discredit the team, even though the Coach at Nederland is in the process of developing the very same type of involvement and interest in the basketball program over there.   I hope I dont ever have to stoop so low as to tell the Nederland fans that their team is no good, not because they aren't, but because I dont like (envy might be better) their undying support for their team.  He made a couple of stupid statements earlier; 1. [size=12pt][b]Silsbee will win by 15  [/b] [/size] 2. Silsbee will mop the floor with HJ  [size=12pt][b]Neither was even close to happening [/b] [/size] so he is scrambling to save credibility via more criticism.  Nothing particular original or concealed about those efforts. [/quote] Agree = Almost= not too far off He wasn’t too far off though  ;D [/quote] I guess we look at things differently.  A team that is behind for 3 quarters on their home floor and winds up winning is NOT mopping the floor with the opponent  and if you believe they almost mopped the floor, I guess it is futile to employ logic.  An eight point margin is "off" by 47%. as compared to the predicted 15 pointer.  I just cant seem to remember where they could have created 15 pt margin.  If we use that type of logic, could HJ say they almost won the game? [/quote] Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades  ;D [/quote]

[quote name="ST413" post="949403" timestamp="1295214743"] That's the only way HJ can have the last one!!!! [/quote] I guess its safe to assume that 1983 tiger is an impostor especially since it is his first post?

[quote name="Tiger05" post="949385" timestamp="1295212871"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949372#msg949372 date=1295211545] Rest assured his real problem is with the die hard HJ fans and his only retort can be to somehow discredit the team, even though the Coach at Nederland is in the process of developing the very same type of involvement and interest in the basketball program over there.   I hope I dont ever have to stoop so low as to tell the Nederland fans that their team is no good, not because they aren't, but because I dont like (envy might be better) their undying support for their team.  He made a couple of stupid statements earlier; 1. [size=12pt][b]Silsbee will win by 15  [/b] [/size] 2. Silsbee will mop the floor with HJ  [size=12pt][b]Neither was even close to happening [/b] [/size] so he is scrambling to save credibility via more criticism.  Nothing particular original or concealed about those efforts. [/quote] He wasn’t too far off though  ;D [/quote] I guess we look at things differently.  A team that is behind for 3 quarters on their home floor and winds up winning is NOT mopping the floor with the opponent  and if you believe they almost mopped the floor, I guess it is futile to employ logic.  An eight point margin is "off" by 47%. as compared to the predicted 15 pointer.  I just cant seem to remember where they could have created 15 pt margin.  If we use that type of logic, could HJ say they almost won the game?

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="949371" timestamp="1295211205"] I agree, the game was long because of all of the fouls....But I love that they get to play in front of a large crowd for a change...and the atmosphere is unequaled in this area anyway. [/quote] Poppa- Dogs ain't gonna like the atmosphere claim.

Rest assured his real problem is with the die hard HJ fans and his only retort can be to somehow discredit the team, even though the Coach at Nederland is in the process of developing the very same type of involvement and interest in the basketball program over there.  I hope I dont ever have to stoop so low as to tell the Nederland fans that their team is no good, not because they aren't, but because I dont like (envy might be better) their undying support for their team.  He made a couple of stupid statements earlier; 1. Silsbee will win by 15  2. Silsbee will mop the floor with HJ  Neither was even close to happening so he is scrambling to save credibility via more criticism.  Nothing particular original or concealed about those efforts.

I guess I had better take that very seriously since it is coming from  an "analyst" associated with a  tradition rich program.  Two or three years ago?  Hmmmm!!!! Aren't you (yes, you are) the one who DEMANDED that history not be discussed?  HYPOCRISY  Also noticed you refused to respond to my inquiry about why such a weak team had the top area team down by 12 on their home court?  The reason is they are capable of doing that but you aren't about to admit that.  Ask the Silsbee coaching staff and anyone else at the game just how" Silsbee wiped the floor" with HJ.  Could it be that you possibly misjudged?  NOOOO, that can't be it.  Somebody played games with the scoreboard or Silsbee players were sick.  It COULDNT possibly be that you were wrong.