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[quote name="dogs1218" post="949289" timestamp="1295200960"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=78734.msg949213#msg949213 date=1295182004] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949182#msg949182 date=1295155596] If you go by what I saw then, Silsbee would wipe the floor with HJ..  ;) Silsbee has more talent and will find their ways to win again this year.. Hope the HJ faithful dont get too upset when Silsbee gives them another "L" in Sour Lake  ;D :D [/quote]Ahhh, but that's why they play the game..... which was exactly my point.  You watched HJ at their worst when they played Nederland (granted, Nederland was a big reason for that...) and you saw Silsbee probably at the best against Ball. You saw and you judged and you were way off.  ;) [/quote] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg949215#msg949215 date=1295183028] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=78734.msg949213#msg949213 date=1295182004] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949182#msg949182 date=1295155596] If you go by what I saw then, Silsbee would wipe the floor with HJ..  ;) Silsbee has more talent and will find their ways to win again this year.. Hope the HJ faithful dont get too upset when Silsbee gives them another "L" in Sour Lake  ;D :D [/quote]Ahhh, but that's why they play the game..... which was exactly my point.  You watched HJ at their worst when they played Nederland (granted, Nederland was a big reason for that...) and you saw Silsbee probably at the best against Ball. You saw and you judged and you were way off.  ;) [/quote] Good luck with that.  He believes his "judgement" is without fallacy.  He already knows he misjudged earlier in the year with his predictions for HJ [/quote] The one and only thing I was wrong about is that this message board would be quiet with all the Hawklette fans crying about the loss..  :D ;D  Guess my judgement has some fallacy there  ::) And Im not sure I was far off because the facts are : (1) Y'all still haven't beaten a relevant basketball team, like I said.. (2) Silsbee still won the game, like I said.. Granted It wasn't by 15 like I thought, it was by 8.. Now you two can calm down and accept that HJ loss, and stop trying to bash people who actually made an accurate judgement call about a match-up and picked the winner, instead of picking with their heart and pulling for the team they have always loved  ;) [/quote]  Rationalize all you want Dogs.  Hj still has a very good team and you cant stand it- But the best part is you can do NOTHING about it.  Relevant?  In whose eyes?  Yours?  Give me a break.  If Silsbee is the #1 team in the area and HJ is so weak, how is it that this weak team had the #1 team down 12 in the first half on their home court.  I anxiously await your "wisdom".

Hj is at the bottom of the district standings.!!!!  Looks like your predictions of "the beginning  of the end" are in their infancy.  Congratulations on your prescience.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="949213" timestamp="1295182004"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=78734.msg949182#msg949182 date=1295155596] If you go by what I saw then, Silsbee would wipe the floor with HJ..  ;) Silsbee has more talent and will find their ways to win again this year.. Hope the HJ faithful dont get too upset when Silsbee gives them another "L" in Sour Lake  ;D :D [/quote]Ahhh, but that's why they play the game..... which was exactly my point.  You watched HJ at their worst when they played Nederland (granted, Nederland was a big reason for that...) and you saw Silsbee probably at the best against Ball. You saw and you judged and you were way off.  ;) [/quote] Good luck with that.  He believes his "judgement" is without fallacy.  He already knows he misjudged earlier in the year with his predictions for HJ

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="948272" timestamp="1295047167"] Let's have some fun tonight guys! Again, Tigers by 12. [/quote] 421 hours

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="948942" timestamp="1295129432"] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=78734.msg948869#msg948869 date=1295121975] Sounds like sour apples.  Give congrats to Silsbee.  They won no matter the circumstances.  Dont make excuses once the game is over, there are too many variables to say this of that, you could say the kid for Silsbee that went out of the game would have made 4 3's if he wouldnt have went out. You dont know what you dont know.  [/quote]Who was giving sour apples (or grapes, for that matter?)  I didn't think anybody was claiming they lost for any other reason then they got beat. [/quote] Thank you- I was going to ask the same question.  I would like to be pointed toward the post that suggests sour grapes/apples

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="948802" timestamp="1295109023"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg948795#msg948795 date=1295108839] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=78734.msg948791#msg948791 date=1295108557] So, are you saying you are naive, or do you really believe Travis doesn't make a difference with this team? He is the head coach, btw. [/quote] Thanks for letting me know he is the head coach.  I guess, in all my naivete, I didnt realize that.  Just posting an opinion, to which I believe I am entitled.  As for being naive, give me time.  I'll will keep reading on here and learning.  Who knows, perhaps the day will come when the enlightened will not consider me as naive. [/quote] I personally don't consider you naive. You know exactly what you are talking about, meant every word. [/quote]I meant every word and you knew every word I meant, in spite of subsequent responses.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="948842" timestamp="1295115720"] If Silsbee coaches watch this game the way I did, there are several ways I would play HJ different next go around. Gustofson is a one handed point guard with no confidence in his shot. Prejohn only plays on the left side of the block. Silsbee did a nice job of doubling down on him in the 4th. The Sutherland kid doesn't too much on the floor. Yes he is a good set shot shooter but if you pressure him to dribble it takes away that shot. Looks like Bosha thinks he's playing MTV Rock n Jock basketball. He thinks he can get 25 points for those long 3's. He needs to come closer. Prudhomme will go for any pump fake you give him. DRIVE THE BALL. [/quote] Maybe his theory is that an long open three (before defender can get into position) has a better chance than a shorter contested three.  By the way, he had 8 in one game earlier this season from that range.( ( an eight foot putt aint much easier to make than a 10 footer)  Additionally, if you take one thing away, you normally give up something elses.  Persohn is right handed and has no trouble shooting a right handed layup.  He simply was taking what the defense would give. 

[quote name="ST413" post="948793" timestamp="1295108710"] I never said we would have won by more just said he would have mada a difference. Don't you feel that even though his assistants could do well if Sutherland missed the game it would have an effect? [/quote] Thats enough.  It was  all (intentionally) taken out of context to begin with. 

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="948791" timestamp="1295108557"] So, are you saying you are naive, or do you really believe Travis doesn't make a difference with this team? He is the head coach, btw. [/quote] Thanks for letting me know he is the head coach.  I guess, in all my naivete, I didnt realize that.  Just posting an opinion, to which I believe I am entitled.  As for being naive, give me time.  I'll will keep reading on here and learning.  Who knows, perhaps the day will come when the enlightened will not consider me as naive.

[quote name="the sports guy" post="948788" timestamp="1295108397"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg948787#msg948787 date=1295108311] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=78734.msg948784#msg948784 date=1295108173] As good as all these coaches are I don't see how you can say not having Travis didn't have an effect. Yes it wouldn't have changed the way we played but it would have given a thirdbset of eyes on the bench, and more ideas strategy wise.           Would it have made much difference in the outcome is guess work but he definitely would have made a difference. He wasn't given the job for no reason! [/quote] Ok Ok - If you would have had Travis, you would have won by 20.  Not sure I am the only" naive" one posting here. [/quote] I dont know about that. ;) ;D [/quote]  If you "dont know" then you, too, must be naive

[quote name="ST413" post="948784" timestamp="1295108173"] As good as all these coaches are I don't see how you can say not having Travis didn't have an effect. Yes it wouldn't have changed the way we played but it would have given a thirdbset of eyes on the bench, and more ideas strategy wise.           Would it have made much difference in the outcome is guess work but he definitely would have made a difference. He wasn't given the job for no reason! [/quote] Ok Ok - If you would have had Travis, you would have won by 20.  Not sure I am the only" naive" one posting here.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="948774" timestamp="1295107807"] But it's still missing personel, contrary to what you posted. ;) I am not that certain on the "operating in the same manner" but I agree the result would have been the same. ;D [/quote] Contrary?  That assumes the reader doesnt fully understand the context of what was written (and I believe you do) But thats ok.  I stand corrected.  I dont mind nit picking stuff because I have been known to sniff out a few of those myself.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="948768" timestamp="1295107004"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg948738#msg948738 date=1295101964] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=78734.msg948730#msg948730 date=1295099299] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg948726#msg948726 date=1295098362] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=78734.msg948665#msg948665 date=1295070389] This was a great game. The Hawks came to play but I believe our depth finally wore them out.  DC is very good and a lot of the plays he makes don't show up in the statistics. We hit our FTs down the stretch while the Hawks didn't.  Gus proved how good a PG he is. He seemed to find the open man at will.  When we made our run in the fourth, he was the only Hawk who seemed to handle the pressure. Bosha is gonna be a thorn in the Tigers side for quite a while.  I thought rebounding in the first half was big for the Hawks as well.  And when we would start a little run in the first half HJ would end it with a big shot.  One of those being a LONG rang 3 by Bosha.  Everything you could expect from this rivalry. [/quote] Just wondering if those "Silsbee is a 20-30 point better team" disciples still adhere to that contention. [/quote]Just goes to show you can win with talent even when your main leader is missing in action. ;D [/quote] Hmmmm Not aware of any missing personel for either team [/quote] I would say Silsbee not having Travis on the bench qualifies as missing personel. ;) Also. Silsbee was missing Rhone, a key backup, who was gone on a football recruiting trip. HJ still missing Anderson. [/quote]  I think you and I both know that Silsbee would have operated in the same manner whether Travis was there or not so I would suggest it had no bearing on the outcome of the game.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="948747" timestamp="1295102784"] I don't see these teams spliting this season. HJ is much better than what I thought but so is Silsbee. IMO HJ may have played their best game of the year where Silsbee (who had another 6 day break) will be stronger the next time they play in 2 weeks. [/quote] And how would you know this was HJs best game of the season?  Prudhomme, Gus, and Persohn all playing with four fouls while Mr. Stallworth had 0?  Dont you find that rather interesting? 

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="948728" timestamp="1295098969"] Who would have predicted this outcome so far? These two teams are deadlocked in district play after this week. ;D [/quote] I sense this as the beginning of the 2012 run to the top

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="948730" timestamp="1295099299"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg948726#msg948726 date=1295098362] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=78734.msg948665#msg948665 date=1295070389] This was a great game. The Hawks came to play but I believe our depth finally wore them out.  DC is very good and a lot of the plays he makes don't show up in the statistics. We hit our FTs down the stretch while the Hawks didn't.  Gus proved how good a PG he is. He seemed to find the open man at will.  When we made our run in the fourth, he was the only Hawk who seemed to handle the pressure. Bosha is gonna be a thorn in the Tigers side for quite a while.  I thought rebounding in the first half was big for the Hawks as well.  And when we would start a little run in the first half HJ would end it with a big shot.  One of those being a LONG rang 3 by Bosha.  Everything you could expect from this rivalry. [/quote] Just wondering if those "Silsbee is a 20-30 point better team" disciples still adhere to that contention. [/quote]Just goes to show you can win with talent even when your main leader is missing in action. ;D [/quote] Hmmmm Not aware of any missing personel for either team

[quote name="ST413" post="948665" timestamp="1295070389"] This was a great game. The Hawks came to play but I believe our depth finally wore them out.  DC is very good and a lot of the plays he makes don't show up in the statistics. We hit our FTs down the stretch while the Hawks didn't.  Gus proved how good a PG he is. He seemed to find the open man at will.  When we made our run in the fourth, he was the only Hawk who seemed to handle the pressure. Bosha is gonna be a thorn in the Tigers side for quite a while.  I thought rebounding in the first half was big for the Hawks as well.  And when we would start a little run in the first half HJ would end it with a big shot.  One of those being a LONG rang 3 by Bosha.  Everything you could expect from this rivalry. [/quote] Just wondering if those "Silsbee is a 20-30 point better team" disciples still adhere to that contention.

[quote name="Tiger05" post="948613" timestamp="1295067068"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=78734.msg948610#msg948610 date=1295066955] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=78734.msg948599#msg948599 date=1295066465] 2 dunks. Note to Silsbee ISD lower the volume on music. And lower the roof on gym for the next 3 years so Bosha won't be able to shoot. ;) [/quote] an additional note- one national anthem is sufficient for the evening [/quote] It didn’t bother me Both young women did a wonderful job  Agree about the singers.  However, dont see the need to play/sing the anthem twice within a 90 minute period [/quote]

I know that Bluedove is celebrating!!!!!

[quote name="ST413" post="948599" timestamp="1295066465"] 2 dunks. Note to Silsbee ISD lower the volume on music. And lower the roof on gym for the next 3 years so Bosha won't be able to shoot. ;) [/quote] an additional note- one national anthem is sufficient for the evening

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="948240" timestamp="1295042811"] I'm leaving Beaumont now from my parents house [/quote] Got your golf clubs and $?

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="948187" timestamp="1295037389"] Have him ask. Don't think you were involved in the bet [/quote] Yes, but I am involved in the golf bet you are suddenly avoiding.

Ebony and Ivory

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="948123" timestamp="1295030882"] BadSanta has landed! [/quote] Glad you are here.  Can AAW expect his $1000 and can I expect to finalize our wager?

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="948150" timestamp="1295034413"] Looking for a catchy name for us while broadcasting........ I was thinking Dumb and Dumber, Beavis and Butthead, etc. Give us some CLEAN names!!! [/quote] Golfer and Gambler?