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[quote name="meadowlark" post="933734" timestamp="1292442576"] Haven't seen HJ this year but watched Hudson last night vs Henderson.  Hudson not as strong as years past, depends heavily on one player, Davis. Take HJ in an easy win. [/quote] HJ will have very few "easy wins" this year.  I would further bet that there will be nothing easy about the Hudson game.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="933634" timestamp="1292434884"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=77529.msg933628#msg933628 date=1292434635] Hmmmm, I thought 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place are still up for grabs. Go figure. [/quote]nah, Silsbee got it [/quote] Thats the same as crowning the Heat the 2011 Champs

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="933581" timestamp="1292431089"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=77529.msg933544#msg933544 date=1292426450] WOS won't make it! Yea I said it [/quote]So that leaves HF, OF and BC. Thru simple deduction, HF has an opportunity to make playoffs this year. ;) [/quote] I hope they do make the playoffs this year.  That makes the march to the 2012 Championship look more legitimate

[quote name="CATMAN" post="933106" timestamp="1292366463"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77363.msg932885#msg932885 date=1292338392] [quote author=MoFo link=topic=77363.msg932844#msg932844 date=1292333422] Give me a break, who in here has never done anything illegal? especially in high school. Now granted they got caught and will, and should, serve the punishment but that does not automatically make them a bad kid. If my friends and I where caught doing half of the stuff we did in high school we would be in Levinworth, but believe it or not we all turned out to be good dads, docs, coaches, buisness owners, lawyers, and best of all Christians. [/quote]Man, I remember during high school  ??? Well anyway, some of yall weren't caught thats my point. [/quote] U went to school BLUE :D :D :D :D [/quote] I happen to know that Blue was a point guard for the Tar Heels.  He played under an assumed name.  I will not reveal the years he played because I know he is touchy about his age.

He just needed a break before he made his next traveling call. 

Careful there, yall.  There are some on this board who demand that no tongue in cheek comments be made because they might not be aware of same thus allowing them to fully understand the situation so as not to make unwarranted/unfounded accusations.

[quote name="east texas bb" post="933288" timestamp="1292381652"] Good win for HJ on the road.  And for EC giving them a good game.  Is EC not ranked?  I thought for sure they would be top25. [/quote] HJ barely beat a team they beat by 30  just a few days ago.  Very, very, very subpar performance.

[quote name="justsaying" post="933056" timestamp="1292354200"] I think EC wins and True Blue moves his kid back to EC because of it.  ;) Just messing with u Blue. [/quote] You must love getting Blue all worked up ;D

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="933052" timestamp="1292354001"] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=77417.msg933030#msg933030 date=1292351460] America has the lead in basketball as far as athleticism, but the European/(any overseas program) are definetly more in tune to the fundamental side of the game. They have caught up to the AMericans in the last 10-20 years.  A lot of good stuff comes from the overseas style and just to add this little bit, the Europeans/Argentina are a HUGE advocate of teaching to be able to generate your own shot within the team play.  Why do you you think they run the pick in role so much?  Bring their big man out high to play? That is why the 1-5 players on their team skills are so similar, they do not designate this guy a post and this a guy a point.  They teach them how to play not just do a particular skill of the game.  I watched all of the Fiba games and if you will notice, the NBA draft is almost drafting as many players overseas than they do from America.  Overseas or other players from different countries can definetly generate and create their own shot.  They teach every player to dribble, pass and shoot.  Point to Post.    [/quote]You love getting Steve Nash all worked up don't you  :D [/quote]  Kinda fun, don't you think?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="932990" timestamp="1292348884"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77417.msg932970#msg932970 date=1292347941] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77417.msg932772#msg932772 date=1292300288] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77417.msg932764#msg932764 date=1292298807] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77417.msg932556#msg932556 date=1292278386] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=77417.msg932548#msg932548 date=1292277395] I said Euro style because he doesn't like to bang and have his back to the basket. He wants to face the basket like most European style players do. Loves shooting the three. [/quote]Oh okay, I misunderstood you. I'll put your name back in the bucket for responsible reporting. ;) [/quote] But can he generate his own shot? [/quote]It depends. More of a spot up shooter. Against  an athletic team like Silsbee, probably won't be able to create own shot. HJ,probably will kill yall with 3's [/quote]  Killing HJ with threes will be interesting.  I will be at your gym but you may not be at ours.  I will definitely report to you if he made it to double digits in threes. [/quote]I said "kill yall with 3's." Not make 3's. ;D The one thing I know about 3-point shooters is this: They will keep their team in the game or they will their team out of the game. ;) [/quote] Believe it or not, there are a few out there with sufficient mentality to not take too many shots when they arent falling. 

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="932772" timestamp="1292300288"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77417.msg932764#msg932764 date=1292298807] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77417.msg932556#msg932556 date=1292278386] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=77417.msg932548#msg932548 date=1292277395] I said Euro style because he doesn't like to bang and have his back to the basket. He wants to face the basket like most European style players do. Loves shooting the three. [/quote]Oh okay, I misunderstood you. I'll put your name back in the bucket for responsible reporting. ;) [/quote] But can he generate his own shot? [/quote]It depends. More of a spot up shooter. Against  an athletic team like Silsbee, probably won't be able to create own shot. HJ,probably will kill yall with 3's [/quote]  Killing HJ with threes will be interesting.  I will be at your gym but you may not be at ours.  I will definitely report to you if he made it to double digits in threes.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="932941" timestamp="1292343913"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77363.msg932904#msg932904 date=1292340364] You havent the foggiest idea, sir, of what is taking place here.  Bluedove and I have an ongoing discussion where one always plays devils advocate with the other.  If you believe asking a question of Dove (with tongue in cheek) is passing judgement, then you, yourself, have erroneously "passed judgement." [/quote]Steve, not every reader on this topic is aware of the "ongoing discussion involving devil's advocates" and nothing in your original post indicated that there were any tongues in any cheeks. Let us review: [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77363.msg932568#msg932568 date=1292279906] Hmmm- You believe that people participating in illegal activities are nice people or just nice on the surface? [/quote] So, you two may be sharing a joke between one another, but as you noticed, I wasn't the only one who "didn't have the foggiest idea". [/quote]  Sorry, but Dove knew what I was doing and I will not be making formal announcements for everyone else on the board whenever I make a post.  And by the way, asking someone how he personally defines/perceives nice people is hardly an indictment of anyone else.    There were no words used that criticized any of those mentioned.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="932880" timestamp="1292338098"] [quote author=MoFo link=topic=77363.msg932844#msg932844 date=1292333422] Give me a break, who in here has never done anything illegal? especially in high school. Now granted they got caught and will, and should, serve the punishment but that does not automatically make them a bad kid. If my friends and I where caught doing half of the stuff we did in high school we would be in Levinworth, but believe it or not we all turned out to be good dads, docs, coaches, buisness owners, lawyers, and best of all Christians. [/quote]Please, I think you should address to Stevenash, for he is the only one that has passed judgment on these three.  Everybody else here agrees that they should be punished, but not condemned. [/quote] You havent the foggiest idea, sir, of what is taking place here.  Bluedove and I have an ongoing discussion where one always plays devils advocate with the other.  If you believe asking a question of Dove (with tongue in cheek) is passing judgement, then you, yourself, have erroneously "passed judgement."

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="932556" timestamp="1292278386"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=77417.msg932548#msg932548 date=1292277395] I said Euro style because he doesn't like to bang and have his back to the basket. He wants to face the basket like most European style players do. Loves shooting the three. [/quote]Oh okay, I misunderstood you. I'll put your name back in the bucket for responsible reporting. ;) [/quote] But can he generate his own shot?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="932553" timestamp="1292278209"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=77409.msg932552#msg932552 date=1292278031] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77409.msg932536#msg932536 date=1292275932] It would be so nice if one of the cinderella teams in the district spoil HJ's AND Silbee's district hopes? [/quote] It would be!!!  But you and I both know that won't happen!!! Who is the front runner for the 3rd spot in district????  Originally I was thinking WOS but they have lost several easy games, so then I was thinking OF and then they lost to HF at OF, so to me it is as wide open as it ever has been for the 3rd spot.  Could see some team with a 5-5 or 4-6 record finish 3rd in the district. [/quote]May depend on how the bottom teams match up with WO-S. Miracles do happen ;) [/quote]  Dove- Could it be that the 2012 state champs will make playoffs this year?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="932563" timestamp="1292279374"] [quote author=supermario link=topic=77363.msg932562#msg932562 date=1292279290] I go too ozen the three players cleaned out there lockers today. They are done for the year. [/quote]I know one of those kids. Nice person. [/quote] Hmmm- You believe that people participating in illegal activities are nice people or just nice on the surface?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="932368" timestamp="1292255085"] [quote author=Tiger05 link=topic=77409.msg932343#msg932343 date=1292253389] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=77409.msg932339#msg932339 date=1292252947] That's a big enchilada to swallow.  I love my Hawks, and I love the heart that they display, but its an uphill battle to beat Silsbee.  This district is Silsbee's to lose.  It's not impossible, but the smart money would be on Silsbee......... [b]or Hamshire Fannett[/b]. [/quote] :D :D :D :D ::) :D :D :D ::) :D :D :D [/quote]We got jokes today :D :D >:(` [/quote]  Are you referring to the HJ story above or to "HF wins the 2012 3-a State Championship"?

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="932089" timestamp="1292204561"] Stevenash...really? Why not name yourself John Stockton or Pistol Pete or maybe even John Paxon! [/quote] Excuse me sir, but the name is Steven Ash.  And it is STILL JUST your opinion and nothing more.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="932058" timestamp="1292202613"] Wrong post dude! Go under the other and ill comment. Yes HJ does have a weak schedule! [/quote] Sorry, but that is only YOUR opinion about the schedule and I dont think you have any particular credentials that make your opinion any better than that of anyone else.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="932078" timestamp="1292204176"] T[quote author=westend1 link=topic=77392.msg931986#msg931986 date=1292195252] Wells and James from Brook. [/quote]I sawWB play the other night. I didn't see any top 10 players [/quote] Oh, no.  Does that mean there were no shot creators?

[quote name="no-look" post="932034" timestamp="1292200905"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77373.msg931952#msg931952 date=1292189819] [quote author=no-look link=topic=77373.msg931461#msg931461 date=1292120241] Woodville played good ball tonight. Outside game came to life in third quarter. They are well coached and will make a run in their district. [/quote] The results would have been reversed if game had been in H-town [/quote]Almost like winning one in J-town..  ;D [/quote] Especially if accomplished via half court 3 pointers!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="931958" timestamp="1292190580"] IM GOING to watch an HJ game when they are scheduled to play a quality team. Get my own opinions [/quote] We already know what your opinions are going to be and so do you.  If they are not that good, you will say so.  If they are better than you expected, you will say nothing.

[quote name="no-look" post="931461" timestamp="1292120241"] Woodville played good ball tonight. Outside game came to life in third quarter. They are well coached and will make a run in their district. [/quote] The results would have been reversed if game had been in H-town

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="931828" timestamp="1292172985"] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=77353.msg931823#msg931823 date=1292172202] The Tigers have only lost 2 games. The other was to Ozen. A game that we didn't play well in. [/quote]Silsbee has a very good team. Obviously the team is like a lot of other teams. Many play up to their competition AND play down at times. [/quote] Unless you are playing yourself, you are ALWAYS  playing, to some extent, up to or down to the competition.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="931820" timestamp="1292171991"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77296.msg931742#msg931742 date=1292159674] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77296.msg930893#msg930893 date=1292079576] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77296.msg930889#msg930889 date=1292078743] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77296.msg930200#msg930200 date=1292018734] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=77296.msg930138#msg930138 date=1292014115] Basketball is about matchups.  You cant compare scores in the paper or game to game situations.  You can get a little info this way but not as much as you would think. [/quote]Ah, heres a person that knows basketball. I'll find me a match to stop a spot up shooter in high school basketball anyday. Getting Nash started up again ;) [/quote] I am here and ready to start.  I would disagree with you because "some people" forget that basketball is a team game where all five players have a role (at least for the better teams) in making things happen.  Some defender might be capable of stopping a spot up shooter one on one, but a decent coach will get that shooter shots regardless of how good the particular defender is.   It really isnt that difficult to force "that defender" to cover someone else via screen/multiple screens.  Additionally, any spot up shooter who is going to be "shut down" by the defender will have that defender in his face.  Even the slowest of the slow that has any kind of basketball intellect has a response to that type of defensive effort.    If that defender holds his spot up shooting opponent to no shots taken or very few taken, the spot up shooter has simply provided some of his teammates with additional opportunities they might otherwise not have had. [/quote]I knew you would come out sooner. But you make valid points. Lets just hope the "other teammates can score. [/quote] IF none of the teammates can score, then your "team" has little chance. [/quote]Give me a true point guard with the ability to score (shoot & drive), pass the ball, he'lll make his weaker teammates look good ;) [/quote] He sure will.  However, it takes more than a great point guard to make a team successful.  I am pretty sure that Kevin Johnson, John Stockton, Allen Iverson, Jason Kidd, and Gary Payton(among others) would confirm my contention.