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[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="930893" timestamp="1292079576"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77296.msg930889#msg930889 date=1292078743] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77296.msg930200#msg930200 date=1292018734] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=77296.msg930138#msg930138 date=1292014115] Basketball is about matchups.  You cant compare scores in the paper or game to game situations.  You can get a little info this way but not as much as you would think. [/quote]Ah, heres a person that knows basketball. I'll find me a match to stop a spot up shooter in high school basketball anyday. Getting Nash started up again ;) [/quote] I am here and ready to start.  I would disagree with you because "some people" forget that basketball is a team game where all five players have a role (at least for the better teams) in making things happen.  Some defender might be capable of stopping a spot up shooter one on one, but a decent coach will get that shooter shots regardless of how good the particular defender is.   It really isnt that difficult to force "that defender" to cover someone else via screen/multiple screens.  Additionally, any spot up shooter who is going to be "shut down" by the defender will have that defender in his face.  Even the slowest of the slow that has any kind of basketball intellect has a response to that type of defensive effort.    If that defender holds his spot up shooting opponent to no shots taken or very few taken, the spot up shooter has simply provided some of his teammates with additional opportunities they might otherwise not have had. [/quote]I knew you would come out sooner. But you make valid points. Lets just hope the "other teammates can score. [/quote] IF none of the teammates can score, then your "team" has little chance.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="931669" timestamp="1292131742"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77282.msg931638#msg931638 date=1292129415] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=77282.msg930909#msg930909 date=1292081282] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=77282.msg929822#msg929822 date=1291987487] I want to hear Stevenash's take on this game... [/quote]I guess he has a 'no comment' on this... [/quote] I assume you are talking about HJ- Cayuga part II?  HJ shot the ball considerably better and didnt have two starters on the bench a lot from foul trouble.  I sense a trap but am ready to take the bait.  What else would you like for me to offer? [/quote]Its funny you came out of hiding AFTER the Championship win...  BTW, Congrads... [/quote]  Spent the great bulk of the last three days at the tourney.  I came out of hiding after YOU requested it.  Anything else?

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="930909" timestamp="1292081282"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=77282.msg929822#msg929822 date=1291987487] I want to hear Stevenash's take on this game... [/quote]I guess he has a 'no comment' on this... [/quote] I assume you are talking about HJ- Cayuga part II?  HJ shot the ball considerably better and didnt have two starters on the bench a lot from foul trouble.  I sense a trap but am ready to take the bait.  What else would you like for me to offer?

[quote name="CATMAN" post="931128" timestamp="1292097666"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=77345.msg931121#msg931121 date=1292097470] Good win for the Hawks! Credit to Tatum for hanging tough playing short handed (minus 4 players, 2 starters) Gus is simply clutch!!! [/quote]  That dont say much about HJ then. [/quote] I was told by a very reliable source that one starter and four subs were missing

Any relationship to Terrell Pettaway who came from Galveston and played at Lamar a few years ago?

[quote name="ST413" post="931071" timestamp="1292094635"] One thing is for sure when you have to foul HJ Gus is the last one on the court that you want to foul!! [/quote]  But as the point guard, he is going to have the ball and one defender will not be able to force him to give it up.  He played the last few minutes with a badly bruised heel and could not keep his balance.  Good accomplishment to make those free throws in such a circumstance.

[quote name="jesusfreak" post="931109" timestamp="1292096894"] 2:32 left in the game Cayuga winning 53-47 [/quote] Shocking because when I left in the first quarter LCM was up 21-2

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="930200" timestamp="1292018734"] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=77296.msg930138#msg930138 date=1292014115] Basketball is about matchups.  You cant compare scores in the paper or game to game situations.  You can get a little info this way but not as much as you would think. [/quote]Ah, heres a person that knows basketball. I'll find me a match to stop a spot up shooter in high school basketball anyday. Getting Nash started up again ;) [/quote] I am here and ready to start.  I would disagree with you because "some people" forget that basketball is a team game where all five players have a role (at least for the better teams) in making things happen.  Some defender might be capable of stopping a spot up shooter one on one, but a decent coach will get that shooter shots regardless of how good the particular defender is.  It really isnt that difficult to force "that defender" to cover someone else via screen/multiple screens.  Additionally, any spot up shooter who is going to be "shut down" by the defender will have that defender in his face.  Even the slowest of the slow that has any kind of basketball intellect has a response to that type of defensive effort.    If that defender holds his spot up shooting opponent to no shots taken or very few taken, the spot up shooter has simply provided some of his teammates with additional opportunities they might otherwise not have had.

[quote name="utfan06" post="930494" timestamp="1292036104"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77317.msg930484#msg930484 date=1292035683] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=77317.msg930382#msg930382 date=1292032803] Looks like HJ wanted to make a statement today after last night. [/quote] They are going to have their hands full with Tatum tomorrow.  Tatum beat Kountze very decisively. [/quote] Yes they did... We had one of our top scorers out after a broken leg in the Barbers Hill game and our leading scorer was out with 2 min left in the third because he fould out.... in which we had got the lead down to 11pts.... But yes HJ will have their hands full Tatum is good... And as far as HJ making a statement... not a hard thing to do against EC... [/quote]  I dont think your top scorer would have been that effective in this game.  I rarely see games where Kountze is the lesser of the two teams in terms of overall speed and quickness but it certainly was the case tonite.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="930205" timestamp="1292018883"] [quote author=setxslam link=topic=77295.msg930189#msg930189 date=1292018044] Before the game: El Jalapeño in Sour Lake has some good Tex-Mex.  Seriously.  I miss it.  Charra beans better than Pappasito's.  The pizza place a few blocks west on 105 was pretty good, too.  There was a new soul food place, Mother's, in downtown Sour Lake, near El Jalapeño-- they had good food, but I don't know if they're still in business. After the game in Sour Lake: DQ.  There's been a Sonic rumored to be in the works for at least the last five years, but DQ's still got the monopoly on fast food in Sour Lake, far as I know. Of course, Big Rich's gumbo, served every year at the HJ Tournament, is Sour Lake's culinary [i]ne plus ultra[/i]. [i]Bon appètit[/i], basketball peeps! [/quote]I'm assuming downtown is where the one bank is located in Sour Lake, right? [/quote]  Yes, one bank - you know- the one that is solvent unlike many others

[quote name="ST413" post="930382" timestamp="1292032803"] Looks like HJ wanted to make a statement today after last night. [/quote] They are going to have their hands full with Tatum tomorrow.  Tatum beat Kountze very decisively.

[quote name="CATMAN" post="929751" timestamp="1291953368"] What do u think BLUE [/quote] The Dove is kicking his heels and doing back flips as if he were 17 years old.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="929380" timestamp="1291922353"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77127.msg929377#msg929377 date=1291921446] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=77127.msg929014#msg929014 date=1291859846] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77127.msg928843#msg928843 date=1291839288] I can't stand confident fans, especially from HJ.  ;D  Winning becomes too much of a habit for some people ;) [/quote] Think thats my problem as well Dovey  :D Cant stand all the talk about them, as if they were the greatest thing since sliced bread! [/quote] Your program is on a serious upswing right now.  If you manage to do what HJ has done, I suspect there will be plenty of "statements" of undying support from your backers also.  Only at that time will you understand why you "can't stand all the talk about them, as if they were the greatest thing since sliced bread".  If you will be real honest and omit the hyperbole, NOBODY has said anything about being the greatest thing since sliced bread.  There are a number of staunch backers that read and post on this board and, like it or not, there is NOT a thing wrong with that.  If and when you reach that position, I will "remind" you why somebody else  will not be able to "stand all the talk about you" [/quote]I feel you Nash. [/quote]  Love it when my brethren stay with me

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="929376" timestamp="1291921411"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77239.msg929368#msg929368 date=1291921155] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=77239.msg929351#msg929351 date=1291919472] I find it funny that some homer picked a hawk blowout...  [/quote] My guess is that the "homer" was present when HJ scrimmaged Dayton at Kountze before the season started and beat them handily in both encounters. (even though we all know that the scrimmages are pretty much meaningless) [/quote]Yes, and this was when the Dayton football team were still playing. Their athletes are on the court now.  But I'm sure you and the homer already knew that... [/quote]  HJ won by 16 and it was never in doubt

[quote name="setxslam" post="929456" timestamp="1291928570"] Any news on Grayson? [/quote] Did not suit up for this one.  Lots of soreness from LCM effort

[quote name="dogs1218" post="929014" timestamp="1291859846"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77127.msg928843#msg928843 date=1291839288] I can't stand confident fans, especially from HJ.  ;D  Winning becomes too much of a habit for some people ;) [/quote] Think thats my problem as well Dovey  :D Cant stand all the talk about them, as if they were the greatest thing since sliced bread! [/quote] Your program is on a serious upswing right now.  If you manage to do what HJ has done, I suspect there will be plenty of "statements" of undying support from your backers also.  Only at that time will you understand why you "can't stand all the talk about them, as if they were the greatest thing since sliced bread".  If you will be real honest and omit the hyperbole, NOBODY has said anything about being the greatest thing since sliced bread.  There are a number of staunch backers that read and post on this board and, like it or not, there is NOT a thing wrong with that.  If and when you reach that position, I will "remind" you why somebody else  will not be able to "stand all the talk about you"

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="929351" timestamp="1291919472"] I find it funny that some homer picked a hawk blowout...  [/quote] My guess is that the "homer" was present when HJ scrimmaged Dayton at Kountze before the season started and beat them handily in both encounters. (even though we all know that the scrimmages are pretty much meaningless)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="929249" timestamp="1291912238"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77239.msg929236#msg929236 date=1291910772] Dove- why dont you come to the tourney and we can discuss spot up shooters vs shot creators? [/quote]From what I can gather, Dayton isn't that good. But, if you guys schedule Westbury Christian or similar team, I'LL gladly come out and watch how these teams will stop your spot up shooters. ;) [/quote] Excuse me,  I didnt realize those types of teams were on the HF schedule and that you had become accustomed to watching those.

Dove- why dont you come to the tourney and we can discuss spot up shooters vs shot creators?

[quote name="KHSAlum400" post="928872" timestamp="1291841800"] Please don't overlook Cayuga. Here's a breakdown of their roster. Pretty good size for a 1A club 1 Pat Boxie               So.   5-2 2 Hunter Jenkins        So.   6-2 3 Donte Jackson        So.   5-9 4 Daniel Walls             Jr.   5-3 5 Chris Turner            Sr.   5-9 10 Joel Jenkins           Sr.   5-10 15 Jake Nash              Jr.   5-11 20 Josiah Summerville  Sr.   [b]6-7[/b] 21 Preston Anderson   So.   [b]6-5[/b] 22 Cj Wagner             Sr.   6-3 23 Steve Jenkins         Sr.   5-9 33 Dalevin Campbell     Sr.   6-0 44 Zac Bowman           Jr.   [b]6-6[/b] 55 Deon Shofner         So.   [b]6-6[/b] [/quote]  Trust me, Cayuga is not being overlooked

[quote name="86hawk" post="928853" timestamp="1291839988"] All this talk about HF is killing me.  When was/did HF become relevant when it came to basketball?  I keep thinking i am reading the Football or Baseball page.  To say that HF will be district champs in the future would be like me spitting out non sense that the HJ Football team will dominate district in the upcoming years.  Neither is going to happen.  Every now and again, HJ football will win just enough games to make it the 3rd team in district.  Same with HF in basketball.  One year not a dynasty made.  In 3 or 4 or 20 years, HF may win a few basketball games and may not be the district step child.  But for now, please know your role.  I will continue to keep my mouth shut when it comes to HJ football and beat my chest when they finally win vs proclaiming their dominance in the distant future and look like the village idiot to everyone reading this page. [/quote] Permit me to recommend that you send a private message to bluedove3 and find out exactly why HF will win a state championship in 2012

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="928837" timestamp="1291838937"] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=77127.msg928793#msg928793 date=1291836354] with all due respect, dogs, we hear that every year.  this team is the deepest HJ team that i can remember, and they have some guys who are capable of becoming that go-to player.  HJ very well could have a down year this year, but i don't know what you've seen to base that on.  like lazeek said, they should've beaten a decent 4A LCM, and lost by 2, but that was after playing something like 7 games in the previous 6 days, and then having a several hour drive home from the AP tourney on Sunday.  they've also been without 2 starters.  that's only going to make them stronger, as two younger guys have gotten a ton of playing time to start the year. but hey, i'll take another "down year" if it means 28-30 wins and a run several rounds deep into the playoffs.  we have those types of "down years" every year. [/quote]You can't stay on top FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!  Accept that maybe this is the year or the beginning of the fall of the HJ Empire. Get over it fellas. You had a nice long run. LET IT GO!!!! :D [/quote] Part of the reason for success is not getting over it and doing your best not to let it go.  Key self perpetuating ingredients for a successful program.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="928026" timestamp="1291740275"] Who would come in 2nd and 3rd ??? [/quote] Dove, since you didnt get the answer you wanted, why not ask about 4th, 5th, or 6th.  Sooner or later, someone will make you deliriously happy and say HJ. ;D

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="928023" timestamp="1291740104"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=77127.msg927919#msg927919 date=1291722228] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=77127.msg927905#msg927905 date=1291704420] [quote author=jesusfreak link=topic=77127.msg927852#msg927852 date=1291692948] [size=10pt][b]BLUEDOVE3 Quotes:[/b] :D :D :D "[i]This will be an easy game for HJ. It's in the bag; a done deal. LC-M? Please! They better not step out on the same court with HJ.[/i]" "[i]LC-M is an easy game. LC-M will not be ready for this game.[/i]"[/size] Congrats to Coach Harley and the bears... very hard fought game. [/quote]Huh? I was rooting for you guys all the way. Reverse strategy baby! I know LC-M peeps read these posts. Way to go LC-M.  :D [/quote]  How convenient.  If HJ wins, you can say " I told you so".  If HJ loses, you can claim reverse strategy.  Sounds like an experienced political strategist to me. [/quote]Well, maybe this is the beginning of 'The Fall of The HJ Empire." LC-M is an alright team. Don't think they will contend in their district. Some teams rise to trash talk, while others fold. [/quote] Some teams will improve and others will stay the same and others will decline.  Nothing new about that.  Am hopeful HJ improves like 2 or three years ago when a 1-2 beginning season ended in Austin.  Nothing wrong with that being your goal.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="928142" timestamp="1291751429"] What do you mean 'stand by'?  If you mean be a man and admit I was wrong?  Eat crow?  Yes, I would, as I always do if I'm wrong... Again, I tell you, you must have me mistaken for somebody else... [/quote] Don't know you so can't have you mistaken for someone else.  Was only curious.  No other motivation behind the statement.