jake94

I figured PN-G would be improved this season, but I never thought they'd be 9-0. They have really done a good job of improving every week. I thought they were overrated early on as they were squeaking by in games, but they have really turned it on and impressed me the past several weeks. Balanced offense and a very good defense is a good combination.

[quote name="RustedCutlass" post="692281" timestamp="1256998392"] [quote author=jake94 link=topic=61558.msg692277#msg692277 date=1256998177] So, in essence, the Pirates beat themselves? No mention at all of the Dogs playing a pretty good game with no turnovers? [/quote] Wow. You only see what you want to see, don't you? I'm not saying the Bulldogs didn't play good. I'm commenting on our poor defensive play. I didn't know I had to say how well you played in order to post.  ::) Some people. Sheesh... [/quote] I only see what is there.

[quote name="RustedCutlass" post="692258" timestamp="1256997308"] Well, I decided to apply badndn's 12-hour rule for posting after last night.  ;D I haven't read through every post, so I don't know who has been classless in posting or not. Nor do I really care. The reason we lost is simple: We came out soft. The defense played soft the entire first drive, kind of like someone said "Let's defer until the second half and give them the ball so we can see what they'll do on offense." NO! That is what we supposedly watch film for! We battled back, yes, but we never should of had to. We should have came out early and punched them in the mouth. We didn't. The defense never looked good until the third quarter. Was there some questionable calls? Yes. Even the glorious scoreboard the announcer kept mentioning all night clearly showed that Dozhier's hand was going forward and that was not a fumble. You would have to have zero knowledge about the game to think that was a fumble. But still, Nederland got the ball. But I can't blame the loss on that. Bad calls happen in games. I'm sure that Nederland would like to complain about the bad call of uneccesary roughness in the fourth. That kid couldn't stop and was already too close when the whistle was blown. But bad calls are, unfortunately, part of the game. You have to be able to overcome them. Plain and simple, if we hadn't played so darn soft at the beginning of the game and had not let them score with ease on that first drive, we win the game. But, just like the PN-G game, we waited too long to pull the trigger. I hope that this is classy enough. I don't see anything in here that could be considered classless, especially after the rigamarole that happened after the PN-G game. Boys, you have to wake up. You play like this against Livingston next week, who just happened to beat Central by the way, and we'll be sitting at home again after district. You better get fired up early. Pull the trigger!! [/quote] So, in essence, the Pirates beat themselves? No mention at all of the Dogs playing a pretty good game with no turnovers?

I think he runs the option pretty well. The problem is when he goes to pass. The Vidor offense looks like it has ONE pass play in its playbook. They throw a streak route out of the backfield to #21. I was shocked that Vidor was throwing on 1st down when the fumble happened. They had just gotten a gift of a penalty when it was 3rd and forever. They still had 2 minutes and were at midfield. If Vidor would mix it up a bit more and maybe throw 25-30% of the time, then I think that offense would be pretty darn tough! I just don't think you can win district these days or make any kind of playoff run if you are completely one-dimensional. This is not a knock on Vidor, it's just too easy for good DC's to gameplan for.

I always enjoy the Ozen band as well!

PN-G is a much better team that when y'all played them the first time. I think the rematch might get ugly.

I think this will be a good game. Lumberton is more difficult to prepare for than Vidor and Livingston were. It is pretty much assumed that those teams will run the ball 95% of the time. Lumberton has a good QB who can run and throw well and have some solid WR's. Totally different style than what we have faced the last 2 weeks. I still think that Dionte is what makes the Dogs go and he gets Brady involved. Lumberton has had our number for the last several years. Dogs are in a position to punch their playoff ticket and I think they will Nederland 24 Lumberton 17

[quote name="Lionfan" post="691762" timestamp="1256959613"] How bout them Livingston Lions never give up and keep on choppin!!!!!!!!!!!!!   What about it Souljay!!!!!!!!!!!! I think a Livingston win next week coupled with a L-train loss equals a Lion playofff berth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote] Congrats on still being on the outside looking in!

[quote name="Pirate for Life!" post="691890" timestamp="1256962508"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=61558.msg691705#msg691705 date=1256958702] I don't want to hear anything from vidor about homecookin!  The stripes bailed you out the play before. [/quote]OK like it or not I am going to say it. I never complain about the calls, but this was horrible. Please do away with the replays. I wish the UIL would ban these stupid screens. First you get a touchdown and the replay showed the receiver was way out of bounds. Then you get a called fumble to decide the game. Tell me that was not a forward pass! We saw it twice thanks to the stupid replay! Now the personal foul was a push well after the play was blown dead. I agree it was not vicious, but had it been the other way you would have wanted the call. I have vented and will finish with this. That was a great game with lots of suspense. Both teams played well when they needed to. The dogs are peaking at the right time and I will say congratulations to Nederland. I just hate to see a game like that get decided on a bad call. I hope they show the game here so everyone cam see it for themselves. It took the refs 5 minutes to decide and they were wrong!!!!!! Who knows what the outcome would have been. I guess we will never know! Again congrats to Nederland one way or another it is a win! Now we have to take care of a Livingston team coming off a win........ [/quote] I knew this was coming.. I almost started a thread for the Pirate fans to whine about the refs... AGAIN. If y'all were as good as y'all boasted, then y'all would not have been in a position for any call late in the game to affect the outcome. Y'all should have been waaaaay ahead of a team playing with their 4th QB of the year.

[quote name="Pirate for Life!" post="690953" timestamp="1256939806"] It's all about turnovers tonight! I just don't think the Nederland QB and recievers will have their timing down in the slop. I also believe the bomb will be hard to find a handle on. Again, hold on to the ball and we should win! [/quote] The passing game looked pretty good in the slop.

[quote name="James Chandler" post="690381" timestamp="1256914847"] [quote author=Bobcatfan4life link=topic=61508.msg689594#msg689594 date=1256842462] [b]Bears face Raiders in pivotal 20-4A tilt Van Wade The Orange Leader LITTLE CYPRESS —[/b] Two squads that suffered tough setbacks last week both look to keep their slim playoff hopes alive in District 20-4A tonight when the Little Cypress-Mauriceville Bears welcome the Lumberton Raiders to Battlin’ Bear Stadium. The Bears (3-5,1-4) fell to third-place Vidor 49-15 last week while the Raiders (4-4, 1-4) dropped a 39-6 decision to first-place Port Neches-Groves. “It should be a good little battle,” said LC-M coach Randy Crouch. “Lumberton plays a very physical brand of football. Their linebacker (Anthony Beard) might be the best in the area.” The Bears check in averaging 275.6 yards a game offensively while the Raider defense allows 281.4. The contest will feature 20-4A’s top two leading passers in Lumberton quarterback Ryan Hughes and LC-M quarterback Hunter Gonzales. LC-M also has the area’s leading receiver in Zack Sonnier. Gonzales has completed 125-of-217 passes for 1,305 yards and seven touchdowns. Sonnier has been on the receiving end 65 times for 724 yards and seven TDs. Johnny Epps, a solid defensive back, also has 23 receptions for 225 yards and a TD receiving. Tevvin Jones leads the Bear ground attack with 467 yards and three TDs on 78 carries. Gonzales also has 267 yards on the ground and nine TDs. “Both teams are pretty evenly matched,” said Crouch. “The field could be sloppy after all the rain we are supposedly getting. It might be one of those deals where turnovers could be the deciding factor.” The Bear defense, which is allowing a district-high 355.4 yards a gain, will look to slow down a balanced Raider attack that is gobbling up 297.1yards an outing. Hughes has completed 85-of-152 passes for 1,327 yards and 10 TDs. His favorite targets have been Jesse Sparks (23-349-3), Kyler Keith (17-345-3) and Chase McDonald (14-293-1). Hughes also leads the ground attack with 364 yards and a TD on 83 carries. Tailback Ryan Asher has rumbled for 321 yards and six TDs on 76 totes. “They are extremely balanced and that Hughes kid is pretty accurate,” said Crouch. “They’ll give our defense a challenge. It should be a great game. It’s the last home game for our seniors so I know they would like to play really well.” [/quote]I really think that Lumberton has this one hands down in my opinion. [/quote] I agree. Raiders by double digits.

[quote name="vidor96pirates" post="690332" timestamp="1256912999"] A couple of easy wins over Livingston and LCM and you are district contenders again huh. The Dogs come back to reality tonight.  Vidor by 3 scores! [/quote] And who exactly has Vidor beaten? Ozen is your most impressive win. Yes, they did beat(in OT) us at our place. Our 2nd string QB was hurt in the 1st half. We played the entire 2nd half with a 4th string QB(Dionte was also OUT that game) that had not taken snaps all week. Please don't point to the WO-S scrimmage, Nederland beat Jasper in a scrimmage. Scrimmages mean NOTHING. Believe what you want, but both of these teams have A LOT to prove. Games are not played on paper nor are they played by what Dave Campbell says before the season starts. This should be a really good ballgame tonight. I do not see us blowing you guys out and I do not see you guys blowing us out either.

[quote name="coachacola" post="689497" timestamp="1256837083"] I could be wrong but I think last year LU scrimmaged against UTA. [/quote] We pounded both UT-A and UTEP in scrimmages last season. It did not do us a whole lot of good though, other than getting our fans hopes up!

[quote name="fwstangs" post="689591" timestamp="1256842349"] Wow - after the struggles they had versus us, I would not have predicted this. But geez they were in a bind losing two Qb's, yeah they do not play Defense, but the team morale suffers big time! Great recovery and great attitude Dionte. What position did you/he play against FW? [/quote] He played DE before QB, but he was injured and OUT for the Friendswood game.

[quote name="Penny" post="689224" timestamp="1256818545"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=61263.msg688933#msg688933 date=1256774182] Yes.  But being at the bottom on defense will not win you very many games.  Stats are performance based.  [quote author=Penny link=topic=61263.msg688881#msg688881 date=1256766180] [quote author=smitty link=topic=61263.msg688809#msg688809 date=1256759427] I'm not sure Nederland's defense can stop Vidor's running attack.  If anyone thinks they can, what in the past 8 games gives you that belief?  I'm willing to listen. [/quote] Nederland doesn't have a defense that will take over the game, but when the offense takes care of the ball and doesn't lose turnovers, they have played well.  They have given up the second fewest points in district, a stat that catches some by suprise.  If we take care of the ball, our defense will put us in position to win... did you listen? [/quote] [/quote] What stat is more important that points against?  [/quote] Wins and losses?  :D  Just kidding Penny. I know where you were going with that!

[quote name="tinman" post="689164" timestamp="1256790486"] [quote author=The Godfather link=topic=61263.msg688828#msg688828 date=1256761243] I'm just curious as to why people from Vidor consider this a rivalry game. Because both teams have the same school colors maybe, I don't know... Would appreciate it if someone could point it out to me tough... [/quote]It goes way back, I graduated in 1972 and it was then as it is now.  There are those Nederland folks, not all, that think they are just better than Vidor folks.  [/quote] At football? Through the years, they have been. This year should be a good game though. I think Vidor comes in as the favorite.

[quote name="Pirate for Life!" post="688273" timestamp="1256697833"] [quote author=dawgnut link=topic=61263.msg688219#msg688219 date=1256695144] The reality is, and I know this is not the place to talk facts, but the Dawgs are not the same team that everyone has been looking at. There is a 6' 5" 225 lb reason we are not the same team and if you think he doesn't make a difference maybe you should ask Ryan Brady! I am prediction rain Friday Night, footballs that is, and Vidor better be able to run, not on offense, but defense! There is a new QB in town and he can chunk the rock! [/quote]OK I have not seen him play and can't comment, but my question is if he is so good, why was he the 5th QB to be tried. I am sure he has played alot of football. Why is he just now the QB? [/quote] He was actually the 3rd QB, but when the other two went down he was also injured. He started the season as a WR, TE, and DE. He's a junior, great athlete, best basketball player in the school. Played QB in middle school. At this point, with all the adversity that Ned has been thru he is a great leader and gives the Dogs the best chance to win. In a perfect world, he would not have to play QB, but he is doing a GREAT job!

Whoa! 29 Vidor picks and only 4 Nederland picks! Why are we even showing up?!

Bulldogs "ARGH" one game away from playoffs after Pirates walk plank

I have seen both teams play and I predict Lumberton by 2 scores. The Raider defense is light years ahead of LCM's and the offenses are about equal in my opinion. LC-M has the advantage of the game being at home, but I think the defensive difference will be too much to overcome.

Ironically, the Pirates enter this game exactly as the Bulldogs did last season.. Looking to punch their playoff ticket on the road. The Bulldogs are in the position that the Pirates were last season. They are fighting for their playoff lives after an unexpected loss to Ozen(same as Vidor last season). Can the Pirates win the big one on the road to get over the hump? Neumann should have the Bulldogs ready and I know Matthews will have the Pirates prepared and pumped up! Can't wait till Friday!

I have seen both teams play. I will say PN-G by 2-3 TD's in this one.

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="686606" timestamp="1256575196"] [quote author=Ned11str8 link=topic=61263.msg685142#msg685142 date=1256408142] Ned    38                   running the ball all night long is not going to work for Vidor Vidor   17 [/quote] We shall see... I have read this comment before... and so far it only didn't work against PN-G.... I just hope Big Ned has thier Track shoes on..... Cause we will be  heading straight at you all night long.... and when we pop one... we are usually 15 yds down the field before anyone notices it.... 2 play from Scrimmage against PN-G BOOM 60 yds+ ... unfortunatly for us it was the only big play we made all night.... [/quote] Honest question here.. Not slamming in any way.. I know the Pirates are good, but... What is the difference in Vidor's offense from last year to this year? The reason I ask is that Nederland's defense last season was quite possibly one of the worst in school history and seemed to handle the ground game just fine at Vidor's Homecoming on Halloween last season. If I remember correctly, Vidor actually had to resort to throwing the football and did have some success doing so. Nederland's defense is still not a strength, but they are a lot better than last year's version. Is Vidor's offense THAT MUCH better this year? I think this is going to be a wonderful football game. If Nederland can slow down the Pirates run game then it may come down to the kicking game. I'd give the Dogs the edge there. Should be a great ballgame in my opinion. Pirates will be hungry to punch their playoff ticket and the Dogs are fighting for their playoff lives!

Nederland: "Don't Stop Believing"

I've seen both teams and I have to go with Central by 10